Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found
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Thanks to a heads up from Seibertronian jtprime and TFW2005 user TriBlurr, we have a new rumor to share with you today regarding the next Transformers Generations Selects figure.
This rumor comes to us from a listing at EBgames, which is what TriBlurr found. This listing was found only in the EBgames database, and is not on the website itself. The listing sits alongside some Transformers Earthrise listings, although those are for size classes and not any specific figure. The listing is for a Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Spy Patrol.
Now this is interesting, seeing as how the normal price for a Micromaster pack is around $10, but this one is, from where the picture gets cutoff, around $20, indicating this will be a 4-pack. The previous Spy Patrols have been the Soundwave cassettes, so who could these potential 4 Micromasters be? It make sense for Buzzsaw and Frenzy to be in this pack, but who else could join them in this pack?
Speculate below, and let us know what you think of this listing in the comments section below!
This rumor comes to us from a listing at EBgames, which is what TriBlurr found. This listing was found only in the EBgames database, and is not on the website itself. The listing sits alongside some Transformers Earthrise listings, although those are for size classes and not any specific figure. The listing is for a Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Spy Patrol.
Now this is interesting, seeing as how the normal price for a Micromaster pack is around $10, but this one is, from where the picture gets cutoff, around $20, indicating this will be a 4-pack. The previous Spy Patrols have been the Soundwave cassettes, so who could these potential 4 Micromasters be? It make sense for Buzzsaw and Frenzy to be in this pack, but who else could join them in this pack?
Speculate below, and let us know what you think of this listing in the comments section below!
Credit(s): TriBlurr @TFW2005
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Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050739)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 27th, 2020 @ 7:21pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 27th, 2020 @ 7:21pm CST
Thanks to a heads up from Seibertronian Wireless_Phantom and Jelze Goldrabbit, we have news that video reviews are hitting for the upcoming Transformers Generations Selects voyager class Turtler. The video review we are sharing with you today is in Japanese, but it includes a lot of pertinent information that a lot of you will find interesting.
The review focuses in on Turtler's 3 different modes, his accessories, as well as some comparisons to the figure he was heavily retooled from: Power of the Primes Hun Gurr. We get some great looks at this figure and some good comparisons to to his original mold mate. Turtler is set to become the torso to King Poseidon, the long awaited update to the final scramble city styled combiner from G1.
Check out the review below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
The review focuses in on Turtler's 3 different modes, his accessories, as well as some comparisons to the figure he was heavily retooled from: Power of the Primes Hun Gurr. We get some great looks at this figure and some good comparisons to to his original mold mate. Turtler is set to become the torso to King Poseidon, the long awaited update to the final scramble city styled combiner from G1.
Check out the review below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050740)
Posted by Skritz on January 27th, 2020 @ 7:28pm CST
Posted by Skritz on January 27th, 2020 @ 7:28pm CST
People bitched a lot about the over-use of the Silverbolt mold/engineering in CW and POTP but in all seriousness, this guy manage to look quite different in both individual molds. its only in combined mode that its more apparent but, then again, there aren't too many ways to make a scramble city-type combiner to begin with.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050741)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 27th, 2020 @ 7:33pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 27th, 2020 @ 7:33pm CST
Sad news today for those who have pre-ordered the Transformers Generations Selects Turtler and Gulf, as well as MP-19 Smokescreen from Hasbro Pulse. It looks as though all 3 of these figures have been delayed by 2 months.
The news comes from Hasbro Pulse themselves, who have started to send out emails to those who pre-ordered these figures. The email was forwarded on to us from Seibertronian Ebonyleopard, who ordered all 3. It is possible other pre-orders have been delayed as well, but Ebonyleopard did not have those orders in.
As far as we know, the other 4 Seacons are still set to arrive next month, but that is subject to change as well. This delay follows the delay of Star Convoy last year by several months, as well as the delays that have impacted Masterpiece Hound from Pulse.
Let us know what you think of this news below, and let us know if any of you have received other pre-order delay emails as well.
The news comes from Hasbro Pulse themselves, who have started to send out emails to those who pre-ordered these figures. The email was forwarded on to us from Seibertronian Ebonyleopard, who ordered all 3. It is possible other pre-orders have been delayed as well, but Ebonyleopard did not have those orders in.
As far as we know, the other 4 Seacons are still set to arrive next month, but that is subject to change as well. This delay follows the delay of Star Convoy last year by several months, as well as the delays that have impacted Masterpiece Hound from Pulse.
Let us know what you think of this news below, and let us know if any of you have received other pre-order delay emails as well.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050742)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:37pm CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:37pm CST
Hey D-Max, FYI - as far as Pulse says, Kraken and Lobclaw are next month, while Overbite and Tentakill are March with Gulf and Turtler as of right now on Pulse.
Got my email on the delay today as well. I can confirm it was a generic email as I did not order MP Smokescreen but all 3 were mentioned in the email.
Got my email on the delay today as well. I can confirm it was a generic email as I did not order MP Smokescreen but all 3 were mentioned in the email.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050749)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:55pm CST
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on January 27th, 2020 @ 8:55pm CST
I ordered from Pulse and honestly the part of it that bugs me the most is that now the first set I get from them will be the one I was looking forward to the least.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050750)
Posted by kurthy on January 27th, 2020 @ 9:01pm CST
Posted by kurthy on January 27th, 2020 @ 9:01pm CST
The text makes it pretty clear it's just those 3 for now. I did not order smokescreen, but it was still included in my list.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050752)
Posted by no-one on January 27th, 2020 @ 9:03pm CST
Posted by no-one on January 27th, 2020 @ 9:03pm CST
Well Turtler is easily the best iteration of the Silclongurrler mold...(yet?). 
All those extra tricks and cool accessories are giving me a tinge of the ragrets over skipping this set. At least my wallet is still in one piece to absorb my tears.
All those extra tricks and cool accessories are giving me a tinge of the ragrets over skipping this set. At least my wallet is still in one piece to absorb my tears.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050754)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 27th, 2020 @ 9:35pm CST
Just Hun-Gurrturtler. Silcloshot is separate when parts come into play.
Turtler is interesting in not only how few parts are kept (the arms, upper legs), but also how it reverses orientation in Beast and Torso Modes when compared to Hun-Gurrr. Only Tentakil comes as close to the parts bit with reusing only Moonracer's torso.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 27th, 2020 @ 9:35pm CST
carytheone wrote:Well Turtler is easily the best iteration of the Silclongurrler mold...(yet?).
Just Hun-Gurrturtler. Silcloshot is separate when parts come into play.
Turtler is interesting in not only how few parts are kept (the arms, upper legs), but also how it reverses orientation in Beast and Torso Modes when compared to Hun-Gurrr. Only Tentakil comes as close to the parts bit with reusing only Moonracer's torso.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050756)
Posted by no-one on January 27th, 2020 @ 10:33pm CST
Bots just laying down playing footsie
What I do hold against this design, is that I generally just don't like it. I don't much care for any of the bot modes, the alt modes are just meh, but the torso mode is absolutely fantastic. Easily the best of the bunch and if they were going reuse one over and over, this is that one!
Turtler seems to take what Hun-Gurr started and then do it all better with some cool new tricks and a gaggle of fun accessories.
Posted by no-one on January 27th, 2020 @ 10:33pm CST
Yeah yeah, I was just poking a little fun at the hairsplitters. I forgot all about Scattershot being in this group. I count engineering/experience more than parts count; if the toy feels the same, it is the same. With that said, I don't hold it against any of them. I remember thinking when I got Hun-Gurr that it was the same toy as Silverbolt only done better.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Just Hun-Gurrturtler. Silcloshot is separate when parts come into play.carytheone wrote:Well Turtler is easily the best iteration of the Silclongurrler mold...(yet?).
Bots just laying down playing footsie
What I do hold against this design, is that I generally just don't like it. I don't much care for any of the bot modes, the alt modes are just meh, but the torso mode is absolutely fantastic. Easily the best of the bunch and if they were going reuse one over and over, this is that one!
Turtler seems to take what Hun-Gurr started and then do it all better with some cool new tricks and a gaggle of fun accessories.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050757)
Posted by ebonyleopard on January 27th, 2020 @ 10:35pm CST
Posted by ebonyleopard on January 27th, 2020 @ 10:35pm CST
This also marks my 3rd delay. My pre-ordered Blackarachnia only arrived 2 weeks ago, which was also pushed back from their initial release date, which caused me to cancel my Hound pre-order, which was scheduled for release this month, but I couldn't afford to have Both of them to come out this month with Lio Convoy also scheduled to coming out next month.
So, no idea why this delay is happening.
So, no idea why this delay is happening.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050762)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 27th, 2020 @ 11:23pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 27th, 2020 @ 11:23pm CST
Food for thought on the Generations Selects Micromaster listing from EB Games. EB Games is only in Canada now, right? So, the prices in the listings are likely Canadian dollars. You can see on the receipt that the prices for the other assortments (Deluxe, Voyager, Leader, etc.) are much higher than in USD. So, $20.00 CAN is probably just a small mark-up by a specialty distributor for an exclusive item, rather than an indicator of "twice" the product of a normal Micromaster set (e.g., two figures for $10.00 USD). I'm betting the set will ONLY consist of Blue Guy and Buzzsaw. No Howlback, Glit, Wingthing, or otherwise.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050764)
Posted by no-one on January 27th, 2020 @ 11:54pm CST
Anyway, for $7+ over retail, I'd still expect a little lagniappe in that Selects box.
Posted by no-one on January 27th, 2020 @ 11:54pm CST
You could be on to something, but the going rate for standard micromasters is $10-13 CAD. I just happen to be in Calgary this week and was at a local Walmart today. I will say prices on a few figures were a little sticker shocky (even after the conversion).Wolfman Jake wrote:Food for thought on the Generations Selects Micromaster listing from EB Games. EB Games is only in Canada now, right? So, the prices in the listings are likely Canadian dollars. You can see on the receipt that the prices for the other assortments (Deluxe, Voyager, Leader, etc.) are much higher than in USD. So, $20.00 CAN is probably just a small mark-up by a specialty distributor for an exclusive item, rather than an indicator of "twice" the product of a normal Micromaster set (e.g., two figures for $10.00 USD). I'm betting the set will ONLY consist of Blue Guy and Buzzsaw. No Howlback, Glit, Wingthing, or otherwise.
Anyway, for $7+ over retail, I'd still expect a little lagniappe in that Selects box.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050765)
Posted by Aimless Misfire on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:03am CST
Posted by Aimless Misfire on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:03am CST
Is Turtler & Gulf totally delayed in Japan by Takara or is this just a Hasbro Pulse thing? Because I ordered both from Robotkingdom. Will they be released on time in Japan?
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050766)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:08am CST
He's already out as the Japanese reviewers can attest. The delay is a Pulse-only thing, possibly having problems securing stock and/or making the special Hasbro sleeves for them.
That's right: Star Convoy has shown that those delivered via Pulse have a Hasbro sleeve, then the TakaraTomy one, then finally the box itself.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:08am CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:Is Turtler & Gulf totally delayed in Japan by Takara or is this just a Hasbro Pulse thing? Because I ordered both from Robotkingdom. Will they be released on time in Japan?
He's already out as the Japanese reviewers can attest. The delay is a Pulse-only thing, possibly having problems securing stock and/or making the special Hasbro sleeves for them.
That's right: Star Convoy has shown that those delivered via Pulse have a Hasbro sleeve, then the TakaraTomy one, then finally the box itself.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050768)
Posted by Aimless Misfire on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:12am CST
Ok thanks! I was confused about it.
Does anybody know when Robotkingdom usually gets this kind of stuff? I'm not even sure where RK is located. My set is already paid for so when can I expect it to ship? I don't have much experience with RK. I only ordered from them once before & that was a long time ago.
Posted by Aimless Misfire on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:12am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:He's already out as the Japanese reviewers can attest. The delay is a Pulse-only thing, possibly having problems securing stock and/or making the special Hasbro sleeves for them.
That's right: Star Convoy has shown that those delivered via Pulse have a Hasbro sleeve, then the TakaraTomy one, then finally the box itself.
Ok thanks! I was confused about it.
Does anybody know when Robotkingdom usually gets this kind of stuff? I'm not even sure where RK is located. My set is already paid for so when can I expect it to ship? I don't have much experience with RK. I only ordered from them once before & that was a long time ago.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050769)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:15am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:15am CST
Hong KongAimless Misfire wrote:I'm not even sure where RK is located.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050771)
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:56am CST
Posted by Lore Keeper on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:56am CST
Ya know, when Star Convoy got so severely delayed, I wrote it off as a fluke. But, if this is going to be the norm for Pulse, I think we're better off securing these figures elsewhere. Pulse is either totally disorganized or intentionally putting out BS release dates so people will order from them.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050772)
Posted by frogbat on January 28th, 2020 @ 1:53am CST
Posted by frogbat on January 28th, 2020 @ 1:53am CST
I’m skipping them but they do look pretty good, better than I thought, indeed this is perhaps one of the better uses of the mould. The two blasters help the figure too... I have hungrr, silver lot and skylynx, and must say this guy would top them.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050783)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 28th, 2020 @ 7:54am CST
A couple thoughts here. First, these (Star Convoy and Turtler/Gulf) are the first 2-3 Takara initiated Selects releases, and they are 0-2 on meeting the original dates. However if I recall correctly, there were some delays on Takara's end for Star Convoy as well as delays from Hasbro, so it is tough to draw any legitimate conclusion from just 2 data points, that don't even completely match each other. I think Kraken and Lobclaw should tell us a bit more on how Pulse is handling these and whether they are getting better at it or not. If we see them also delayed about 2 months, then it is safe to assume that will be standard. If they are not delayed, or only delayed for a shorter period of time, then we can guess that Hasbro is figuring it out on their end. Right now, we really just don't know.
I do think Pulse is a bit disorganized on how to handle Takara Selects offerings, as opposed to putting fake dates out there to gain business. Just look at the last 2 limbs where they forgot to put the pre-orders up until about a week before their cutoff date. However, this is also only their second time doing this.
Finally, even with the extra wait, the price through Hasbro is still better for me than going elsewhere, so I won't be taking my money to other sites unless/until Hasbro completely screws something up and I don't get a pre-order that was secured.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 28th, 2020 @ 7:54am CST
Lore Keeper wrote:Ya know, when Star Convoy got so severely delayed, I wrote it off as a fluke. But, if this is going to be the norm for Pulse, I think we're better off securing these figures elsewhere. Pulse is either totally disorganized or intentionally putting out BS release dates so people will order from them.
A couple thoughts here. First, these (Star Convoy and Turtler/Gulf) are the first 2-3 Takara initiated Selects releases, and they are 0-2 on meeting the original dates. However if I recall correctly, there were some delays on Takara's end for Star Convoy as well as delays from Hasbro, so it is tough to draw any legitimate conclusion from just 2 data points, that don't even completely match each other. I think Kraken and Lobclaw should tell us a bit more on how Pulse is handling these and whether they are getting better at it or not. If we see them also delayed about 2 months, then it is safe to assume that will be standard. If they are not delayed, or only delayed for a shorter period of time, then we can guess that Hasbro is figuring it out on their end. Right now, we really just don't know.
I do think Pulse is a bit disorganized on how to handle Takara Selects offerings, as opposed to putting fake dates out there to gain business. Just look at the last 2 limbs where they forgot to put the pre-orders up until about a week before their cutoff date. However, this is also only their second time doing this.
Finally, even with the extra wait, the price through Hasbro is still better for me than going elsewhere, so I won't be taking my money to other sites unless/until Hasbro completely screws something up and I don't get a pre-order that was secured.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050786)
Posted by azgx292939 on January 28th, 2020 @ 9:55am CST
Posted by azgx292939 on January 28th, 2020 @ 9:55am CST
I do hope nautilator doesn't get delayed. That is the only one i bought and the sole one I am looking forward to.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050792)
Posted by o.supreme on January 28th, 2020 @ 10:49am CST
Posted by o.supreme on January 28th, 2020 @ 10:49am CST
Hopefully HP will offer them again somehow. Think about it. These had arguably one of the shortest windows of availability of any release (for Takara or Hasbro), even Unicron had a longer window of opportunity. And as some have argued Selects are not, supposed to be exclusives, they are supposed to be just figures available online only. Almost every other selects figure is still currently available on HP (Though of course not Star Convoy). Maybe the definition of Selects should be restated to mean online only for Hasbro, but Exclusives for TT.
I mean arguably one of the Best/Most popular Unite Warriors sets was Computron. It was the only one (IIRC), that also sold out prior to release by most online retailers, and was more widely available than the Selects Seacons are currently. Still, after release date, UW Computron was still available in limited quantities from some shops. These Selects Seacons are shaping up to be one of the most ridiculously hard to obtain (almost convention level) items of the past few years. I mean, is there any single place online whereby you can order all six today for a comparable price that Pulse was offering in their very, very short window of opportunity?
I mean arguably one of the Best/Most popular Unite Warriors sets was Computron. It was the only one (IIRC), that also sold out prior to release by most online retailers, and was more widely available than the Selects Seacons are currently. Still, after release date, UW Computron was still available in limited quantities from some shops. These Selects Seacons are shaping up to be one of the most ridiculously hard to obtain (almost convention level) items of the past few years. I mean, is there any single place online whereby you can order all six today for a comparable price that Pulse was offering in their very, very short window of opportunity?
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050797)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 28th, 2020 @ 11:49am CST
Why would you need them to restate or define anything? Isn't it pretty obvious that Selects is really 2 different lines depending on whether it was a Hasbro effort or a Takara one? Hasbro selects is an online only type offering for most of the world through Hasbro Pulse and other retailers. The Hasbro ones are basically an affordable version of what FunPub used to cover, repaints using existing molds with maybe a new head. Takara Selects are pretty much what used to be the LG-EX releases (heavy retools or even new molds), and Hasbro Pulse is really just a retail outlet for them in the US. Whether you or I consider either type or both "exclusives" is just splitting hairs on defining an exclusive. Defining it or leaving it undefined has no bearing on how they are produced and marketed, we already know the deal here.
Nope, whether anyone likes it or not, the retail environment changed for transformers over the past few years. The loss of TRU as a retail outlet caused some of the changes and the brand unification changed some other things as well. Any comparison you try to make to toys offered before these changes is likely to be a fools errand.
Keep in mind that the brand unification essentially cut off a number of worldwide Takara customers because there is no longer a reason to wait for the Takara version for a more preferred deco if you can get the Hasbro offerings locally. This doesn't only affect Takara directly, but also indirectly through retailers like BBTS. With the brand unification in place, do you think BBTS is ordering nearly as many items from Takara as they used to? They got spanked pretty hard on PotP with the Takara versions just sitting there not moving much.
So you have Takara trying to make things work with a smaller regular customer base and smaller orders from retailers than before. If their customer base is smaller, then I can see them wanting to move more towards a pre-order/made to order format for their exclusives in order to have more secure numbers and leave less up to chance. Sure it may be a royal pain for some consumers, but giving us exactly the type of distribution you want to have likely puts too much risk on their numbers to be worth it to Takara.
How many of us waited out a price drop for Big Powered or Grand Maximus from BBTS or other retailers? While it may have meant a great deal for us, it also likely meant some losses or very thin profits from the retailers that had to discount them to move them. I'm sure this will affect how many extras those retailers want to order for non-secured pre-orders in the future.
And this isn't just Takara, Hasbro has tightened things up a bit as well. How were the Titan deals this year? Still good, but not as good as before, presumably because of lower stock. And how were the great "wait a year" deals on Predaking at TJ Maxx or Ollies this year, oh yeah, they didn't happen, or were very limited. It looks to me like both Hasbro and Takara are getting smarter as far as limiting overproduction on larger ticket items so that they or their retailers don't have to take as much of a hit if they don't sell.
The reality is that in trying to satisfy their own profits, retailers needs and the customer's desires, they will never be able to strike a balance that makes everyone happy. Some items will simply be harder to find and obtain than others. I personally am glad the Hasbro Pulse does offers the Takara Selects offerings, even with as much of a pain that it was to get the pre-orders in for the Seacons. As much of a pain as it was, it was still easier for me than hunting them down through the other online retailers or ordering direct from Japan with a forwarding service.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 28th, 2020 @ 11:49am CST
o.supreme wrote:Hopefully HP will offer them again somehow. Think about it. These had arguably one of the shortest windows of availability of any release (for Takara or Hasbro), even Unicron had a longer window of opportunity. And as some have argued Selects are not, supposed to be exclusives, they are supposed to be just figures available online only. Almost every other selects figure is still currently available on HP (Though of course not Star Convoy). Maybe the definition of Selects should be restated to mean online only for Hasbro, but Exclusives for TT.
Why would you need them to restate or define anything? Isn't it pretty obvious that Selects is really 2 different lines depending on whether it was a Hasbro effort or a Takara one? Hasbro selects is an online only type offering for most of the world through Hasbro Pulse and other retailers. The Hasbro ones are basically an affordable version of what FunPub used to cover, repaints using existing molds with maybe a new head. Takara Selects are pretty much what used to be the LG-EX releases (heavy retools or even new molds), and Hasbro Pulse is really just a retail outlet for them in the US. Whether you or I consider either type or both "exclusives" is just splitting hairs on defining an exclusive. Defining it or leaving it undefined has no bearing on how they are produced and marketed, we already know the deal here.
o.supreme wrote:I mean arguably one of the Best/Most popular Unite Warriors sets was Computron. It was the only one (IIRC), that also sold out prior to release by most online retailers, and was more widely available than the Selects Seacons are currently. Still, after release date, UW Computron was still available in limited quantities from some shops. These Selects Seacons are shaping up to be one of the most ridiculously hard to obtain (almost convention level) items of the past few years. I mean, is there any single place online whereby you can order all six today for a comparable price that Pulse was offering in their very, very short window of opportunity?
Nope, whether anyone likes it or not, the retail environment changed for transformers over the past few years. The loss of TRU as a retail outlet caused some of the changes and the brand unification changed some other things as well. Any comparison you try to make to toys offered before these changes is likely to be a fools errand.
Keep in mind that the brand unification essentially cut off a number of worldwide Takara customers because there is no longer a reason to wait for the Takara version for a more preferred deco if you can get the Hasbro offerings locally. This doesn't only affect Takara directly, but also indirectly through retailers like BBTS. With the brand unification in place, do you think BBTS is ordering nearly as many items from Takara as they used to? They got spanked pretty hard on PotP with the Takara versions just sitting there not moving much.
So you have Takara trying to make things work with a smaller regular customer base and smaller orders from retailers than before. If their customer base is smaller, then I can see them wanting to move more towards a pre-order/made to order format for their exclusives in order to have more secure numbers and leave less up to chance. Sure it may be a royal pain for some consumers, but giving us exactly the type of distribution you want to have likely puts too much risk on their numbers to be worth it to Takara.
How many of us waited out a price drop for Big Powered or Grand Maximus from BBTS or other retailers? While it may have meant a great deal for us, it also likely meant some losses or very thin profits from the retailers that had to discount them to move them. I'm sure this will affect how many extras those retailers want to order for non-secured pre-orders in the future.
And this isn't just Takara, Hasbro has tightened things up a bit as well. How were the Titan deals this year? Still good, but not as good as before, presumably because of lower stock. And how were the great "wait a year" deals on Predaking at TJ Maxx or Ollies this year, oh yeah, they didn't happen, or were very limited. It looks to me like both Hasbro and Takara are getting smarter as far as limiting overproduction on larger ticket items so that they or their retailers don't have to take as much of a hit if they don't sell.
The reality is that in trying to satisfy their own profits, retailers needs and the customer's desires, they will never be able to strike a balance that makes everyone happy. Some items will simply be harder to find and obtain than others. I personally am glad the Hasbro Pulse does offers the Takara Selects offerings, even with as much of a pain that it was to get the pre-orders in for the Seacons. As much of a pain as it was, it was still easier for me than hunting them down through the other online retailers or ordering direct from Japan with a forwarding service.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050800)
Posted by o.supreme on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:10pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:10pm CST
I also noticed the lack of deals on the OS Titan this past end-of-year (in fact I only saw ONE deal on Amazon for a short time $130). Which is why I still don't have it, but it is still readily available online, so I'm not worried yet. But I do have to disagree about the lack of distinction with TT Selects vs Hasbro Selects they are all SELECTS, whether Hasbro to TT shouldn't matter 9as you stated, brand unification and all that...), and if HP is going to offer them at all, availability should be the same, or call them something else.
I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. I'd much rather have TT items available through 3rd party online retailers, even if having to pay a bit more, as long as they are available for months, if not years after their release, as opposed to having 2 weeks to decide on a pre-order item that doesn't come out for several months, and if not oh well, they're gone forever, unless you want to pay ridiculous markups. Then we are basically back to convention level exclusivity, which I thought is what Selects was attempting to avoid in the first place.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:As much of a pain as it was, it was still easier for me than hunting them down through the other online retailers or ordering direct from Japan with a forwarding service.
I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. I'd much rather have TT items available through 3rd party online retailers, even if having to pay a bit more, as long as they are available for months, if not years after their release, as opposed to having 2 weeks to decide on a pre-order item that doesn't come out for several months, and if not oh well, they're gone forever, unless you want to pay ridiculous markups. Then we are basically back to convention level exclusivity, which I thought is what Selects was attempting to avoid in the first place.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050801)
Posted by Flashwave on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:24pm CST
The real test then is it a Hasbro Pulse delay or did tfsource/ BBTS get delayed
Posted by Flashwave on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:24pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Aimless Misfire wrote:Is Turtler & Gulf totally delayed in Japan by Takara or is this just a Hasbro Pulse thing? Because I ordered both from Robotkingdom. Will they be released on time in Japan?
He's already out as the Japanese reviewers can attest. The delay is a Pulse-only thing, possibly having problems securing stock and/or making the special Hasbro sleeves for them.
That's right: Star Convoy has shown that those delivered via Pulse have a Hasbro sleeve, then the TakaraTomy one, then finally the box itself.
The real test then is it a Hasbro Pulse delay or did tfsource/ BBTS get delayed
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050804)
Posted by Brokebot on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:55pm CST
Posted by Brokebot on January 28th, 2020 @ 12:55pm CST
There was much weeping and gnashing of teeth. 
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050818)
Posted by Emerje on January 28th, 2020 @ 4:04pm CST
Not true, Takara Tomy does these short pre-order windows on their Takara Tomy Mall exclusives on a regular basis. The most recent one for Transformers was Siege Nemesis Prime which was only available from 9/13 to 10/15. TT dictates the pre-order period and availability so the only way these are getting second runs on Hasbro Pulse is if Takara Tomy Mall gives them a second run. These also have a different numbering system with Hasbro listing them as "TT" for Takara Tomy (as in Star Convoy's TT-GS01).
The the delays are not just with Japanese selects, Blackarachnia just got released despite being released in Japan in November, Hound should have been released in December but has been delayed to March along side Smokescreen + which should have been released now.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 28th, 2020 @ 4:04pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Hopefully HP will offer them again somehow. Think about it. These had arguably one of the shortest windows of availability of any release (for Takara or Hasbro)
Not true, Takara Tomy does these short pre-order windows on their Takara Tomy Mall exclusives on a regular basis. The most recent one for Transformers was Siege Nemesis Prime which was only available from 9/13 to 10/15. TT dictates the pre-order period and availability so the only way these are getting second runs on Hasbro Pulse is if Takara Tomy Mall gives them a second run. These also have a different numbering system with Hasbro listing them as "TT" for Takara Tomy (as in Star Convoy's TT-GS01).
The the delays are not just with Japanese selects, Blackarachnia just got released despite being released in Japan in November, Hound should have been released in December but has been delayed to March along side Smokescreen + which should have been released now.
Emerje
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050819)
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 5:37pm CST
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 5:37pm CST
I waiting for the Giftset to come out. So far the use of the Silverbolt mold is amazing.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050828)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 28th, 2020 @ 5:56pm CST
You know it's a just all 6 individual boxes in a single order, right?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 28th, 2020 @ 5:56pm CST
bvzxa wrote:I waiting for the Giftset to come out. So far the use of the Silverbolt mold is amazing.
You know it's a just all 6 individual boxes in a single order, right?
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050831)
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 5:58pm CST
and....your point?
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 5:58pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:I waiting for the Giftset to come out. So far the use of the Silverbolt mold is amazing.
You know it's a just all 6 individual boxes in a single order, right?
and....your point?
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050832)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:13pm CST
It was likely to make sure you weren't thinking that it would have a UW style box as many were hoping for.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:13pm CST
bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:I waiting for the Giftset to come out. So far the use of the Silverbolt mold is amazing.
You know it's a just all 6 individual boxes in a single order, right?
and....your point?
It was likely to make sure you weren't thinking that it would have a UW style box as many were hoping for.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050833)
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:16pm CST
I was hoping to just get all six. Anything else you need to add?
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:16pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:I waiting for the Giftset to come out. So far the use of the Silverbolt mold is amazing.
You know it's a just all 6 individual boxes in a single order, right?
and....your point?
It was likely to make sure you weren't thinking that it would have a UW style box as many were hoping for.
I was hoping to just get all six. Anything else you need to add?
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050834)
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:28pm CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:28pm CST
What/when is/was the preorder open for all six at once? Might be another way of those who missed out to get them (might even mean some people that could only order a few of the figures have to order the whole set just to get them too).
Sadly at their prices they are out of what I would consider paying for them as they would have to be a similar price to UW Devy for me to justify them. Until then the g1 resissue sits with the combiner wars combiners -he took a hit from a shrink ray rather than my wallet taking the hit.
Sadly at their prices they are out of what I would consider paying for them as they would have to be a similar price to UW Devy for me to justify them. Until then the g1 resissue sits with the combiner wars combiners -he took a hit from a shrink ray rather than my wallet taking the hit.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050835)
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:29pm CST
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:29pm CST
Rumor is it may be a Japan only thing...either way I'll get them
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050836)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:32pm CST
It is, actually, only via TakaraTomy Mall. Makes me wonder what other online stores will do once they get stock from that: keep the set as one or split them up.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:32pm CST
bvzxa wrote:Rumor is it may be a Japan only thing...either way I'll get them
It is, actually, only via TakaraTomy Mall. Makes me wonder what other online stores will do once they get stock from that: keep the set as one or split them up.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050837)
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:34pm CST
Hobbylink Japan and Amazon Japan will always be a good place to start or proxy seller sites.
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 6:34pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:Rumor is it may be a Japan only thing...either way I'll get them
It is, actually, only via TakaraTomy Mall. Makes me wonder what other online stores will do once they get stock from that: keep the set as one or split them up.
Hobbylink Japan and Amazon Japan will always be a good place to start or proxy seller sites.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050843)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 28th, 2020 @ 7:46pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 28th, 2020 @ 7:46pm CST
Do HLJ and/or Amazon Japan even carry TTM exclusives?bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:Rumor is it may be a Japan only thing...either way I'll get them
It is, actually, only via TakaraTomy Mall. Makes me wonder what other online stores will do once they get stock from that: keep the set as one or split them up.
Hobbylink Japan and Amazon Japan will always be a good place to start or proxy seller sites.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050844)
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 7:49pm CST
Yes...Amazon Japan had individual sellers that will and ship to the US. I just recently bought the Big Powered set for about $120 shipped.
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 7:49pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Do HLJ and/or Amazon Japan even carry TTM exclusives?bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:Rumor is it may be a Japan only thing...either way I'll get them
It is, actually, only via TakaraTomy Mall. Makes me wonder what other online stores will do once they get stock from that: keep the set as one or split them up.
Hobbylink Japan and Amazon Japan will always be a good place to start or proxy seller sites.
Yes...Amazon Japan had individual sellers that will and ship to the US. I just recently bought the Big Powered set for about $120 shipped.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050845)
Posted by william-james88 on January 28th, 2020 @ 8:50pm CST
Third party sellers can sell them on Amazon Japan. Just like you might find a third party seller selling a Walmart exclusive toy on Amazon.com.
Posted by william-james88 on January 28th, 2020 @ 8:50pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Do HLJ and/or Amazon Japan even carry TTM exclusives?bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:Rumor is it may be a Japan only thing...either way I'll get them
It is, actually, only via TakaraTomy Mall. Makes me wonder what other online stores will do once they get stock from that: keep the set as one or split them up.
Hobbylink Japan and Amazon Japan will always be a good place to start or proxy seller sites.
Third party sellers can sell them on Amazon Japan. Just like you might find a third party seller selling a Walmart exclusive toy on Amazon.com.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050851)
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 10:40pm CST
Stop and think of what you said...obviously you don't know the difference form buying from a true Japanese seller than some e-tailer who uses Walmart, Target, and major retailers online space to sell. You people here are truly obnoxious and pretentious and don't know jack. Do y'all here really buy toys or just run your mouths. In the 15 years I have been on this website the same 5 people post like they know everything. Look when the figures comes out I and others who procure items will have it and I'll post pictures so y'all can shut up.
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 10:40pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Do HLJ and/or Amazon Japan even carry TTM exclusives?bvzxa wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:bvzxa wrote:Rumor is it may be a Japan only thing...either way I'll get them
It is, actually, only via TakaraTomy Mall. Makes me wonder what other online stores will do once they get stock from that: keep the set as one or split them up.
Hobbylink Japan and Amazon Japan will always be a good place to start or proxy seller sites.
Third party sellers can sell them on Amazon Japan. Just like you might find a third party seller selling a Walmart exclusive toy on Amazon.com.
Stop and think of what you said...obviously you don't know the difference form buying from a true Japanese seller than some e-tailer who uses Walmart, Target, and major retailers online space to sell. You people here are truly obnoxious and pretentious and don't know jack. Do y'all here really buy toys or just run your mouths. In the 15 years I have been on this website the same 5 people post like they know everything. Look when the figures comes out I and others who procure items will have it and I'll post pictures so y'all can shut up.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050852)
Posted by Deadput on January 28th, 2020 @ 11:43pm CST
Posted by Deadput on January 28th, 2020 @ 11:43pm CST
I feel like what you just said is probably at least 10 times as obnoxious then anything they said.
Is there a difference between "Muh authentic Japanese toy sellers" and some third party seller? Their both selling the same product so why does it matter?
These guys do indeed know what their talking about when it comes to getting toy products William especially.
Maybe you should stop and think about what your saying in this regard that maybe they do know what their talking about.
Is there a difference between "Muh authentic Japanese toy sellers" and some third party seller? Their both selling the same product so why does it matter?
These guys do indeed know what their talking about when it comes to getting toy products William especially.
Maybe you should stop and think about what your saying in this regard that maybe they do know what their talking about.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050853)
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 11:52pm CST
I thought about it. If you’re offended by my post good I said it. I meant it and I stand by it.
Posted by bvzxa on January 28th, 2020 @ 11:52pm CST
Deadput wrote:I feel like what you just said is probably at least 10 times as obnoxious then anything they said.
Is there a difference between "Muh authentic Japanese toy sellers" and some third party seller? Their both selling the same product so why does it matter?
These guys do indeed know what their talking about when it comes to getting toy products William especially.
Maybe you should stop and think about what your saying in this regard that maybe they do know what their talking about.
I thought about it. If you’re offended by my post good I said it. I meant it and I stand by it.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050854)
Posted by Deadput on January 29th, 2020 @ 12:10am CST
Ok but why say it at all then, no one was on the offensive against you and were just trying to be informative with answers such on the whole unlikely hood of a 6 pack outside of possible specific sources which if I read right are only rumors and where to alternatively get the figures outside of direct retailers.
Rumors until confirmed are not something you want to be banging your buck for, what if there is no 6 pack what then for you?
So this is all coming across as you insulting people for no reason, am I offended? No, but that doesn't change the fact that people should be careful with their words as well as just not insulting others in general when their trying to be helpful.
Posted by Deadput on January 29th, 2020 @ 12:10am CST
bvzxa wrote:I thought about it. If you’re offended by my post good I said it. I meant it and I stand by it.
Ok but why say it at all then, no one was on the offensive against you and were just trying to be informative with answers such on the whole unlikely hood of a 6 pack outside of possible specific sources which if I read right are only rumors and where to alternatively get the figures outside of direct retailers.
Rumors until confirmed are not something you want to be banging your buck for, what if there is no 6 pack what then for you?
So this is all coming across as you insulting people for no reason, am I offended? No, but that doesn't change the fact that people should be careful with their words as well as just not insulting others in general when their trying to be helpful.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050855)
Posted by bvzxa on January 29th, 2020 @ 12:13am CST
I didn’t ask for their help or opinions.
Posted by bvzxa on January 29th, 2020 @ 12:13am CST
Deadput wrote:bvzxa wrote:I thought about it. If you’re offended by my post good I said it. I meant it and I stand by it.
Ok but why say it at all then, no one was on the offensive against you and were just trying to be informative with answers such on the whole unlikely hood of a 6 pack outside of possible specific sources which if I read right are only rumors and where to alternatively get the figures outside of direct retailers.
Rumors until confirmed are not something you want to be banging your buck for, what if there is no 6 pack what then for you?
So this is all coming across as you insulting people for no reason, am I offended? No, but that doesn't change the fact that people should be careful with their words as well as just not insulting others in general when their trying to be helpful.
I didn’t ask for their help or opinions.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050856)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 29th, 2020 @ 12:30am CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 29th, 2020 @ 12:30am CST
That's not a reason to be rude and outright inflammatory. If you didn't care for their opinions the proper response it to ignore them, or simply say, "no thanks." What you did was out of line and it's not accepted here.bvzxa wrote:Deadput wrote:bvzxa wrote:I thought about it. If you’re offended by my post good I said it. I meant it and I stand by it.
Ok but why say it at all then, no one was on the offensive against you and were just trying to be informative with answers such on the whole unlikely hood of a 6 pack outside of possible specific sources which if I read right are only rumors and where to alternatively get the figures outside of direct retailers.
Rumors until confirmed are not something you want to be banging your buck for, what if there is no 6 pack what then for you?
So this is all coming across as you insulting people for no reason, am I offended? No, but that doesn't change the fact that people should be careful with their words as well as just not insulting others in general when their trying to be helpful.
I didn’t ask for their help or opinions.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050860)
Posted by skidflap on January 29th, 2020 @ 2:04am CST
Posted by skidflap on January 29th, 2020 @ 2:04am CST
On the one hand I'm really bummed out as I was looking forward to getting them this month....
On the other hand....my credit card let out a sigh of relief.
On the other hand....my credit card let out a sigh of relief.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050863)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 29th, 2020 @ 6:46am CST
This, the delay was a blessing in disguise money-wise for me.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 29th, 2020 @ 6:46am CST
skidflap wrote:On the one hand I'm really bummed out as I was looking forward to getting them this month....
On the other hand....my credit card let out a sigh of relief.
This, the delay was a blessing in disguise money-wise for me.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050864)
Posted by bvzxa on January 29th, 2020 @ 9:15am CST
But it’s ok for you’re friends to make asinine statements. Cool I get it.
Posted by bvzxa on January 29th, 2020 @ 9:15am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:That's not a reason to be rude and outright inflammatory. If you didn't care for their opinions the proper response it to ignore them, or simply say, "no thanks." What you did was out of line and it's not accepted here.bvzxa wrote:Deadput wrote:bvzxa wrote:I thought about it. If you’re offended by my post good I said it. I meant it and I stand by it.
Ok but why say it at all then, no one was on the offensive against you and were just trying to be informative with answers such on the whole unlikely hood of a 6 pack outside of possible specific sources which if I read right are only rumors and where to alternatively get the figures outside of direct retailers.
Rumors until confirmed are not something you want to be banging your buck for, what if there is no 6 pack what then for you?
So this is all coming across as you insulting people for no reason, am I offended? No, but that doesn't change the fact that people should be careful with their words as well as just not insulting others in general when their trying to be helpful.
I didn’t ask for their help or opinions.
But it’s ok for you’re friends to make asinine statements. Cool I get it.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050880)
Posted by Deadput on January 29th, 2020 @ 2:40pm CST
What asinine statements do they say? They didn't say anything false or rude, your the sole aggressor in this conversation.
The guy's a moderator, kinda their job to enforce the rules and all.
Posted by Deadput on January 29th, 2020 @ 2:40pm CST
bvzxa wrote:But it’s ok for you’re friends to make asinine statements. Cool I get it.
What asinine statements do they say? They didn't say anything false or rude, your the sole aggressor in this conversation.
The guy's a moderator, kinda their job to enforce the rules and all.
Re: Transformers Generations Selects Micromaster Pack Listing Found (2050881)
Posted by Burn on January 29th, 2020 @ 3:01pm CST
Deadput - Do us all a favour and stop injecting yourself into arguments you were NEVER part of. I'm sick and tired of it.
bvzxa - You're not breaking any rules, but your posts have been brought to the attention of staff, so you know, tone it down a bit please?
(FYI, check the rules before reporting posts please)
Posted by Burn on January 29th, 2020 @ 3:01pm CST
Deadput wrote:bvzxa wrote:But it’s ok for you’re friends to make asinine statements. Cool I get it.
What asinine statements do they say? They didn't say anything false or rude, your the sole aggressor in this conversation.
The guy's a moderator, kinda their job to enforce the rules and all.
Deadput - Do us all a favour and stop injecting yourself into arguments you were NEVER part of. I'm sick and tired of it.
bvzxa - You're not breaking any rules, but your posts have been brought to the attention of staff, so you know, tone it down a bit please?
(FYI, check the rules before reporting posts please)
