Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Legends Blackjack and Huffer at US Retail
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Posted by steve2275 on March 14th, 2015 @ 4:36pm CDT
Posted by redoutlander on March 14th, 2015 @ 8:00pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 14th, 2015 @ 10:21pm CDT
Thadicon wrote:
That looks better than having Blackjack as the chest.
I just realized you gave Menasor ankle tilts then I realized how you did it. Looks awesome
Agreed, those are some badass leg-mode configurations. That's how I think I'll display mine.
Posted by megatronus on March 15th, 2015 @ 12:49am CDT
My bad. Next time, I will 100% report my findings!
Posted by albnok on March 15th, 2015 @ 4:16am CDT
Posted by arnie001 on March 15th, 2015 @ 4:25am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2015 @ 5:44am CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 15th, 2015 @ 7:34am CDT
albnok wrote:I imagine this would work better with Motormaster and gray limbs, but Wave 2 hasn't arrived where I am:
I guess that's just one of the perks of being taller than someone. You can put your shirt over their head!
Posted by shajaki on March 15th, 2015 @ 10:17am CDT
Posted by jaws on March 15th, 2015 @ 9:09pm CDT
Members in their G1 configurations, the way I like it with Powerglide as gun.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on March 16th, 2015 @ 12:20am CDT
Editor wrote:william-james88 wrote:
If anyone cares to know what this means, it means purchasing Tfs online for Quebec will be more of a nightmare than it ever was if this goes through.
Should I pitch you the benefits of moving out west?
Let me help you both:
Crosscheck wrote:I don't know if this has been asked yet, but how do all of the Stunticons seem to interact with the Aerialbots? Dragstrip has that part that flips up when he is a foot so he is the same length as the other legs, but none of the other Stunticons seem to have that same part. If one uses Breakdown and Air Raid as legs, are they the same length?
I mention it in my review of Motormaster, but Drag Strip's rear fin has to be folded up whenever it is used as a leg. The vehicle is just too long.
Posted by prjkt on March 16th, 2015 @ 6:06am CDT
Posted by gikpa on March 16th, 2015 @ 9:09am CDT
Posted by Mr O on March 16th, 2015 @ 9:19am CDT
gikpa wrote:Wish it helps you guys to play with Huffer and makes him useful!
Nice. I like the middle configuration particularly. I guess Pipes is inevitable from that mold and, if the blue is close enough, Prime could have a pseudo-Roller component. I'm hoping to come up with something using Breacher.
Posted by shajaki on March 16th, 2015 @ 11:02am CDT
Gikpa! Nice to have you on board! We've all anjoyed your Combiner War creations and hope to see moregikpa wrote:Wish it helps you guys to play with Huffer and makes him useful!
Posted by redoutlander on March 16th, 2015 @ 1:16pm CDT
Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Megatron Gallery
I love the new megatron and I think he will be my stand in for my Classics shelf and My MP shelf (as he fits in nice with MP-10 Optimus. my only problem is his head sculpt has no character. I much prefer the head of Cloud Megatron. CW Megatron's face is just bland.
Posted by Cobotron on March 16th, 2015 @ 6:00pm CDT
Hey! Has anyone noticed how sweet the sculpted detail inside Motormaster's chest is?
...and how kinda not sweet it is inside of Prime's?
It's cool though that they went through trouble to sculpt those little differences into the two. Can't wait to get Motormaster in my hands so I can pick out all the other differences in the retool.
Posted by mtma on March 16th, 2015 @ 6:11pm CDT
I must admit, the quality and level of detail on the FP guy is amazing. And also it is very faithful to the G1 Menasor, which, for some people, is an instant buy. For me, these factors do justify the higher price.
However, there were some things that didn't quite make it to me. One of them is the fact that the leg components are simply attached to the existing legs, made from separate parts that were from the torso guy. I like that combiners actually have their limbs made from the components, and not them as armor over existing limbs. Also the number of "partsforming" that goes into the torso...
However, my biggest gripe was the time. It took most reviews so long to put it all together, and so many small parts, and unnecessary movements. It just seemed that the toy was a bit over engineered.
Now, looking as a collector who likes to show my collection to my friends and family. I'd much prefer the Hasbro Menasor, which I can put together and transform the individual bots in a few minutes and a few easy movements; than a ROTF Prime level bot for each limb of the combiner, if only losing a little bit more articulation and more detail.
This is my opinion, of course, and I don't see anything wrong with people that prefer 3P
Posted by Editor on March 16th, 2015 @ 6:25pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Let me help you both:
Livin in BC.
Canada plus: Free Healthcare
Western plus: Monday Night Raw starts at 5PM. @Midnight is on at 9.
Best of both worlds Chuck
Posted by william-james88 on March 16th, 2015 @ 6:42pm CDT
Editor wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Let me help you both:
Livin in BC.
Canada plus: Free Healthcare
Western plus: Monday Night Raw starts at 5PM. @Midnight is on at 9.
Best of both worlds Chuck
Yeah, I was gonna say its hard to free healthcare.
Also, man that Hulk Hogan video has some steep production value. Think of all that money spent flying the hulkster and the camera crew to film on all those locations!
Lastly, is that robert e lee in the video?
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 16th, 2015 @ 6:46pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Gikpa - those are awesome combos with Huffer!
Hey! Has anyone noticed how sweet the sculpted detail inside Motormaster's chest is?
...and how kinda not sweet it is inside of Prime's?
It's cool though that they went through trouble to sculpt those little differences into the two. Can't wait to get Motormaster in my hands so I can pick out all the other differences in the retool.
Yes, on bot accounts. I'm working on painting my own Menasor right now to bring out some of those details.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 16th, 2015 @ 6:54pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 16th, 2015 @ 6:57pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted
Chances are the designers were going for a slight AoE Galvatron homage.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 16th, 2015 @ 7:15pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted
Chances are the designers were going for a slight AoE Galvatron homage.
I think it's more likely supposed to be Menaso's own spark chamber, like a perverted version of Prime's matrix case. Because that's what you'd see if you opened up a Transformer's chest.
Posted by King Kuuga on March 16th, 2015 @ 7:19pm CDT
mtma wrote:So, I was watching some video review of Third-Party combiners and the Combiner Wars guys in order to make some comparisons. My main focus was the Fansproject M3 (I think that's the name) and CW Menasor, which is probably my favorite so far.
I must admit, the quality and level of detail on the FP guy is amazing. And also it is very faithful to the G1 Menasor, which, for some people, is an instant buy. For me, these factors do justify the higher price.
However, there were some things that didn't quite make it to me. One of them is the fact that the leg components are simply attached to the existing legs, made from separate parts that were from the torso guy. I like that combiners actually have their limbs made from the components, and not them as armor over existing limbs. Also the number of "partsforming" that goes into the torso...
However, my biggest gripe was the time. It took most reviews so long to put it all together, and so many small parts, and unnecessary movements. It just seemed that the toy was a bit over engineered.
Now, looking as a collector who likes to show my collection to my friends and family. I'd much prefer the Hasbro Menasor, which I can put together and transform the individual bots in a few minutes and a few easy movements; than a ROTF Prime level bot for each limb of the combiner, if only losing a little bit more articulation and more detail.
This is my opinion, of course, and I don't see anything wrong with people that prefer 3P
That's essentially my thought as well. The 3P stuff works well as novelty and display items. They look fantastic, they have great articulation, and they're engineered to perfection. But that makes them extremely complicated for their often small size. I've seen several people confess that they'd love to fiddle with their M3 more but they just don't want to take the time to disassemble him and transform all the individual parts. Meanwhile, the Hasbro toys are toys first and foremost. They've got decent articulation, simple but effective transformations, and they're affordable. Plus they can make either an arm or a leg and they can attach to other torso robots freely, which is something that most of the 3P combiners can't boast. Hasbro's products are toys for children to play with and have fun, which is what Transformers has always been, while the 3P products are collector-oriented. I don't mind people that like 3P output, but I do have a problem with people that claim Hasbro is terrible and that they should just hire all the engineers and designers that work at the third party companies, because that kind of attitude completely misses the point of what Transformers are supposed to be and who they're for.
Posted by Cobotron on March 16th, 2015 @ 7:29pm CDT
I agree that Prime's is a nod to energon, and Menasor's does have an AOE Galv vibe, but I'm gonna just chalk it up to artistic license. Menasor's sculpt is much more menacing, evil, and twisted looking than Prime's, for sure.Nemesis Maximo wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted
Chances are the designers were going for a slight AoE Galvatron homage.
I think it's more likely supposed to be Menaso's own spark chamber, like a perverted version of Prime's matrix case. Because that's what you'd see if you opened up a Transformer's chest.
Nemesis Maxi - I look forward to seeing your paint job!
Posted by shajaki on March 16th, 2015 @ 7:30pm CDT
I getcha. Before we had MM to compare with, I wasn't so much complaining about Prime's chest as I was being hopeful towards Takara's eventual release. Prime's Legends-less chest SCREAMS for paint apps, and would look a million times better if those fine points were picked out.Cobotron wrote:Hey! Has anyone noticed how sweet the sculpted detail inside Motormaster's chest is?
...and how kinda not sweet it is inside of Prime's?
It's cool though that they went through trouble to sculpt those little differences into the two. Can't wait to get Motormaster in my hands so I can pick out all the other differences in the retool.
Motormaster on the other hand, looks OK in the solid grey. Even though I also look forward to his painted up Takara counterpart, the Hasbro one is just fine. It probably helps MM that one of his primary colors is grey, so that chest piece doesn't stick out like Prime's does.
Posted by Cobotron on March 16th, 2015 @ 7:41pm CDT
shajaki wrote:I getcha. Before we had MM to compare with, I wasn't so much complaining about Prime's chest as I was being hopeful towards Takara's eventual release. Prime's Legends-less chest SCREAMS for paint apps, and would look a million times better if those fine points were picked out.
Motormaster on the other hand, looks OK in the solid grey. Even though I also look forward to his painted up Takara counterpart, the Hasbro one is just fine. It probably helps MM that one of his primary colors is grey, so that chest piece doesn't stick out like Prime's does.
Ya know, these look really nice though.
http://reprolabels.com/Classics/cw-optimus.php#
Posted by shajaki on March 16th, 2015 @ 8:35pm CDT
Daaaaaammmmmnnnn.... I'm NOT a fan of stickers. But I have bought Repro's in the past and feel their quality is top notch. And that set fixes every issue with CW OP. If Takara's version has unsubstantial differences, it is so bought. Thanks CobroCobotron wrote:Ya know, these look really nice though.shajaki wrote:I getcha. Before we had MM to compare with, I wasn't so much complaining about Prime's chest as I was being hopeful towards Takara's eventual release. Prime's Legends-less chest SCREAMS for paint apps, and would look a million times better if those fine points were picked out.
Motormaster on the other hand, looks OK in the solid grey. Even though I also look forward to his painted up Takara counterpart, the Hasbro one is just fine. It probably helps MM that one of his primary colors is grey, so that chest piece doesn't stick out like Prime's does.
http://reprolabels.com/Classics/cw-optimus.php#
Posted by Cobotron on March 16th, 2015 @ 8:39pm CDT
Ya! the stickers for truck mode are just SMASHING. I like that they fix the thing that bugs me the most. The grey side window bits.shajaki wrote:Daaaaaammmmmnnnn.... I'm NOT a fan of stickers. But I have bought Repro's in the past and feel their quality is top notch. And that set fixes every issue with CW OP. If Takara's version has unsubstantial differences, it is so bought. Thanks CobroCobotron wrote:Ya know, these look really nice though.shajaki wrote:I getcha. Before we had MM to compare with, I wasn't so much complaining about Prime's chest as I was being hopeful towards Takara's eventual release. Prime's Legends-less chest SCREAMS for paint apps, and would look a million times better if those fine points were picked out.
Motormaster on the other hand, looks OK in the solid grey. Even though I also look forward to his painted up Takara counterpart, the Hasbro one is just fine. It probably helps MM that one of his primary colors is grey, so that chest piece doesn't stick out like Prime's does.
http://reprolabels.com/Classics/cw-optimus.php#
Posted by mtma on March 16th, 2015 @ 10:23pm CDT
That Bot wrote:That's essentially my thought as well. The 3P stuff works well as novelty and display items. They look fantastic, they have great articulation, and they're engineered to perfection. But that makes them extremely complicated for their often small size. I've seen several people confess that they'd love to fiddle with their M3 more but they just don't want to take the time to disassemble him and transform all the individual parts. Meanwhile, the Hasbro toys are toys first and foremost. They've got decent articulation, simple but effective transformations, and they're affordable. Plus they can make either an arm or a leg and they can attach to other torso robots freely, which is something that most of the 3P combiners can't boast. Hasbro's products are toys for children to play with and have fun, which is what Transformers has always been, while the 3P products are collector-oriented. I don't mind people that like 3P output, but I do have a problem with people that claim Hasbro is terrible and that they should just hire all the engineers and designers that work at the third party companies, because that kind of attitude completely misses the point of what Transformers are supposed to be and who they're for.
I can understand the "Hasbro is Terrible" attitude, even if I don't agree with it. They're toys, and Has does the fans well by directing the Generations line towards collectors.
When Hasbro announced Combiner Wars, with only a teaser for Superion, I was amazed and very excited, as was most of the fanbase. However, where they expected TFC's Uranos, I expected a good Superion with Hasbro's quality, that while not as great and detailed as 3P, has improved considerably over the years.
I think that they've learned a great lesson with FoC Bruticus, which I have and I like very much.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 16th, 2015 @ 10:28pm CDT
Same goes for its outer chest to likewise enhance its own homage:
Posted by albnok on March 16th, 2015 @ 10:32pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I still want to know what the menasor mold was referencing. I give the advantage to the prime mold though for the Energon reference though I wish it was painted
Chances are the designers were going for a slight AoE Galvatron homage.
Don't give them ideas! (I can only hope they leave it at Galvatronus.)
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 16th, 2015 @ 10:59pm CDT
What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.
Posted by Cobotron on March 16th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CDT
Now I'm doubting myself but when I ordered the ESD was 4/27. I just double checked. still the same. What was it before?RiddlerJ wrote:Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.
What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.
Posted by RiddlerJ on March 16th, 2015 @ 11:13pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Now I'm doubting myself but when I ordered the ESD was 4/27. I just double checked. still the same. What was it before?RiddlerJ wrote:Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.
What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.
It was originally the end of March.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... hts/32340/
Posted by Cobotron on March 16th, 2015 @ 11:25pm CDT
Huh? I wonder if that was a typo on the part of the news? The 27th part is the same.RiddlerJ wrote:Cobotron wrote:Now I'm doubting myself but when I ordered the ESD was 4/27. I just double checked. still the same. What was it before?RiddlerJ wrote:Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.
What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.
It was originally the end of March.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... hts/32340/
I hear you on the "searching stores" thing. Thats why I didn't order MM. So I would still have some pray out there in the wild.
But hey, at least we got 20% off and free shipping.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on March 16th, 2015 @ 11:56pm CDT
Cobotron wrote:Huh? I wonder if that was a typo on the part of the news? The 27th part is the same.RiddlerJ wrote:Cobotron wrote:Now I'm doubting myself but when I ordered the ESD was 4/27. I just double checked. still the same. What was it before?RiddlerJ wrote:Has anyone noticed that on HasbroToyShop, the release date for the wave two figures has been pushed to the end of April.
What the hell? I would've held off and searched the stores if I knew it was going to take this long.
It was originally the end of March.
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... hts/32340/
I hear you on the "searching stores" thing. Thats why I didn't order MM. So I would still have some pray out there in the wild.
But hey, at least we got 20% off and free shipping.
That 20% is what's stopping me from cancelling my preorder from HTS if I see thm in stores before they ship. I too was under the impression that they would be shipping at the end of March, and my invoice still says that. I hope they do, because every day that Menasor stands on my shelf with Dragstip and Fireflight as legs, I want the rest of the stunticons more.
Posted by SimianProphet on March 17th, 2015 @ 1:00am CDT
My Order Status page still shows the limbs as having an expected shipping date of 3/27, so I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that they can stick to that date!
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on March 17th, 2015 @ 6:22pm CDT
Wish Toys R Us stores in America gave away free Transformers Promo items.
Posted by LegendaryAntiHero on March 17th, 2015 @ 6:56pm CDT
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Posted by prjkt on March 17th, 2015 @ 6:58pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on March 17th, 2015 @ 7:13pm CDT
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Combiner Wars Superion and Menasor label sheets being given away in Singapore TRUs
Wish Toys R Us stores in America gave away free Transformers Promo items.
Hey! That's nice of them! Very G1nesque!
Posted by william-james88 on March 17th, 2015 @ 7:17pm CDT
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Hey man, thanks for the review, but please post this one and the others you'll have in the site section we dedicate to reviews. It can be found here. That's where people go for reviews so you'll get your target audience right there. You can make a thread for all your stuff. Also, that will help keep the momentum and flow going of the conversation on this thread. Cheers!
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on March 17th, 2015 @ 11:44pm CDT
Combiners Wars Skylynx.
Tidalwave can combine with the CW deluxes.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 18th, 2015 @ 6:14am CDT
Posted by Mr O on March 18th, 2015 @ 6:21am CDT
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Tidalwave can combine with the CW deluxes.
Yes. Three months of disparate thinking just made sense. I knew I'd seen connectors like them...
Posted by Autobot032 on March 18th, 2015 @ 6:51am CDT
Cobotron wrote:Huh? I wonder if that was a typo on the part of the news? The 27th part is the same.
No typo on our part. The original date *was* March 27th, and it still is... For the first shipment to HTS. It presold out in a matter of hours, so they ordered more and that second wave of figures will arrive April 27th.
Because of this, I couldn't wait. I bought one from an importer and it was well worth the extra money to be able to complete my Superion. I'm sick and tired of waiting, I'll pay extra to get it now and use coupon codes later on to catch up on what I didn't before.
Patience is not my strong suit.
Posted by shajaki on March 18th, 2015 @ 1:14pm CDT
Aaawwwww... if only TW had leg connectors he could finally have some knee joints.Mr O wrote:Yes. Three months of disparate thinking just made sense. I knew I'd seen connectors like them...Tsutsukakushi wrote:Tidalwave can combine with the CW deluxes.
Posted by NuclearConvoy on March 18th, 2015 @ 4:33pm CDT
Wonder if these will ever come to North America?