Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Firefly and Alpha Bravo Design Process
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Posted by It Is Him on December 22nd, 2014 @ 6:56am CST
Posted by Shuttershock on December 22nd, 2014 @ 8:10am CST
It Is Him wrote:So Alpho Bravo is colored almost completely red in his alt mode, kinda like Universe 2.0 Blades.
Indeed it is.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 22nd, 2014 @ 10:50am CST
Firely's new, but Alpha Bravo's already been posted -LOST Cybertronian wrote:The Official Transformers Facebook page gives us a brief sneak peek into the design process for Alpha Bravo and Firefly. These images let us look at the process from sketch models to gray model to final product.
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Posted by Va'al on December 22nd, 2014 @ 10:56am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Firely's new, but Alpha Bravo's already been posted -LOST Cybertronian wrote:The Official Transformers Facebook page gives us a brief sneak peek into the design process for Alpha Bravo and Firefly. These images let us look at the process from sketch models to gray model to final product.
transformers-generations-combiner-wars-discussion-thread-t102338s1275.php#p1631800
Yeah yeah. Whatever you say.
Posted by prjkt on December 22nd, 2014 @ 12:07pm CST
Can't quite drop the cash yet, but looks like a late Jan release for Motormaster and the remaining Aerialbot/Stunticons.
http://www.robotkingdom.com/b0975as01-2.html
http://www.robotkingdom.com/b1177as01.html
Edit: legends too http://www.robotkingdom.com/b0971as01.html
Posted by Cobotron on December 22nd, 2014 @ 12:31pm CST
It will probably be late January before I see wave 1 at retail in my part of the world(Nowheresville, USA).
prjkt - Thanks again for all your good reviews and comp shots. They will hold me over until then.
Posted by Syn_13 on December 22nd, 2014 @ 5:52pm CST
Silverbolt looks great in 'bot mode and I love the transformation to Superion's torso. Really smart to make his arms the Combiner's thigh, to give it that extra bit of stability, and the joint are nice and tight so it feels like it'll hold well. The alt mode looks great apart from the whole bot underneath, but that's not really an issue since I don't plan on having him displayed upside down! Although from the side you can really see his arm, but when displaying side on I plug the weapon into the back of the fist and it really looks cool there. Makes me want a 2nd weapon so I can do the same either side. My only gripe with Superion is that the rubber antennae don't stay upright. Looks like he's got rabbit ears! I may have to take them off and see what I can do.
Bombshell is a brilliant little figure, by the way, in both modes. My dilemma is that I now have 3 mismatching Insecticons on my CHUG shelf. 2 Legends with different colour schemes and the Deluxe FoC Kickback. I don't mind the colours being a bit off but I do hope they release a Legends sized Kickback. FoC Kickback is a great figure but I like the idea of the Insecticons being Legends sized.
Posted by Emerje on December 22nd, 2014 @ 8:10pm CST
Emerje
Posted by leakin' lubricant on December 22nd, 2014 @ 8:43pm CST
Syn_13 wrote:Finally got in on the CW action today. Picked up Silverbolt and Bombshell for now, until I get more dough after Christmas.
Silverbolt looks great in 'bot mode and I love the transformation to Superion's torso. Really smart to make his arms the Combiner's thigh, to give it that extra bit of stability, and the joint are nice and tight so it feels like it'll hold well. The alt mode looks great apart from the whole bot underneath, but that's not really an issue since I don't plan on having him displayed upside down! Although from the side you can really see his arm, but when displaying side on I plug the weapon into the back of the fist and it really looks cool there. Makes me want a 2nd weapon so I can do the same either side. My only gripe with Superion is that the rubber antennae don't stay upright. Looks like he's got rabbit ears! I may have to take them off and see what I can do.
Bombshell is a brilliant little figure, by the way, in both modes. My dilemma is that I now have 3 mismatching Insecticons on my CHUG shelf. 2 Legends with different colour schemes and the Deluxe FoC Kickback. I don't mind the colours being a bit off but I do hope they release a Legends sized Kickback. FoC Kickback is a great figure but I like the idea of the Insecticons being Legends sized.
With regards to the "rabbit ears" try loosening the screw in the back of Superions head, I did this with mine, I loosened it about halfway and the antennae now fold up perfectly straight.
Posted by Syn_13 on December 23rd, 2014 @ 7:44am CST
leakin' lubricant wrote:With regards to the "rabbit ears" try loosening the screw in the back of Superions head, I did this with mine, I loosened it about halfway and the antennae now fold up perfectly straight.
Thank for the tip. I tried this but it didn't make a difference. However, if I then tighten the screw back with the antennae pushed as far forward as they can go they hold in place. When I transform him back to jet or robot mode they go back to how they were as the antennae get pushed back. Just means I need to repeat the process when displaying as Superion, which isn't much of a bother. Nonetheless, thanks for the tip as it's solved it in a roundabout way!
Also, this may sound like I'm pointing out the obvious, but for those that like to display their planes on a raised stand and worry about seeing the robot underside, you can at least get rid of his legs by folding in Superion's chest pieces. It makes the undercarriage of the jet look a lot better, but becomes unstable when put on a flat surface (not that you'd care on a flat surface though, unless it's see-through). Can't do much about covering up the arms, but as I said before a side angle looks good when you plug the big gun in the back of the fist.
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2014 @ 8:09am CST
Syn_13 wrote:but for those that like to display their planes on a raised stand and worry about seeing the robot underside
I really feel that the designers were simply giving us an update on the G1 toys and tried to replicate the look as much as possible, including where the kibble is, but with more articulation.
Posted by leokearon on December 23rd, 2014 @ 11:12am CST
Deluxes (€19.99)
Legends (€12.99)
No Windcharger but I am never going to buy him anyways
Voyager (€28.99)
Optimus was there as well, just didn't take a pic
Posted by Counterpunch on December 23rd, 2014 @ 11:15am CST
leokearon wrote:Hurray! For the first time in years SMYTHS in Ireland are stocking Generations toys. The first wave of Combiner wars toys are in Stock (in Waterford anyway)
Deluxes (€19.99)
Legends (€12.99)
No Windcharger but I am never going to buy him anyways
Voyager (€28.99)
Optimus was there as well, just didn't take a pic
Good stuff. Always happy when our over-seas friends find things without a hassle.
Posted by leokearon on December 23rd, 2014 @ 12:03pm CST
Good stuff. Always happy when our over-seas friends find things without a hassle.[/quote]
Thanks I just hope they will continue to stock them and not give up after about two waves. Of course the prices need to go down a bit, I'm not paying €20 for a deluxe
Posted by Cobotron on December 23rd, 2014 @ 12:31pm CST
I saw on the voyager box 28euro. Just converted, 28euro = 35 usd. Yikes!
I know the euro and pound are stronger than the dollar, but come on!
Is it more expensive to distribute over there?
Posted by william-james88 on December 23rd, 2014 @ 12:46pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna stop complaining about US prices going up.
I saw on the voyager box 28euro. Just converted, 28euro = 35 usd. Yikes!
I know the euro and pound are stronger than the dollar, but come on!
Is it more expensive to distribute over there?
Dude, that is nothing compared to how overpriced the Deluxes are: 19.99 euros = 24.34 US$. YIKES! (in comparion, of course)
Posted by Syn_13 on December 23rd, 2014 @ 12:57pm CST
Cobotron wrote:I'm gonna stop complaining about US prices going up.
I saw on the voyager box 28euro. Just converted, 28euro = 35 usd. Yikes!
I know the euro and pound are stronger than the dollar, but come on!
Is it more expensive to distribute over there?
Well over here in England Voyagers Silverbolt and Prime are £22.99 which, again, is about £35 converted. I actually thought £22.99 was cheap, but that's because Smyths and TRU are big chains, so can price more competitively. On the UK based sites and smaller stores Voyagers are usually around the £27 mark (almost $42).
Posted by Cobotron on December 23rd, 2014 @ 1:01pm CST
Posted by prjkt on December 23rd, 2014 @ 9:05pm CST
Just broke Silverbolt. Right near the hinges of the piece where Superion's head is attached to.
Still holds together for now, but the other side is also seriously showing strain.... Be careful when you transform him!
Posted by Agamemnon on December 23rd, 2014 @ 10:28pm CST
prjkt wrote:Well f*ck
Just broke Silverbolt. Right near the hinges of the piece where Superion's head is attached to.
Still holds together for now, but the other side is also seriously showing strain.... Be careful when you transform him!
Would you be willing to post a pic?
Posted by prjkt on December 23rd, 2014 @ 11:06pm CST
Agamemnon wrote:prjkt wrote:Well f*ck
Just broke Silverbolt. Right near the hinges of the piece where Superion's head is attached to.
Still holds together for now, but the other side is also seriously showing strain.... Be careful when you transform him!
Would you be willing to post a pic?
Not the sharpest pics (hand-holdings manual focus macro lense is not easy) but it's still clear....
right side (broken)
left side (serious stress marks)
It's obvious from the underside too (the part that becomes Silverbolt's lower chest - but not risking another transformation here.
Between this and the floppy head on Prime, I'm not having the best of luck
Posted by Agamemnon on December 23rd, 2014 @ 11:16pm CST
Posted by prjkt on December 23rd, 2014 @ 11:27pm CST
Posted by It Is Him on December 24th, 2014 @ 7:52am CST
Mine arrived last night, and I've only opened Silverbolt and the limbs, but man these guys are big and chunky and stable and easy to transform and stuff. This is what I've wanted for years and Hasbro totally nailed it. This year is going to be good!
Posted by RAcast on December 24th, 2014 @ 8:51am CST
prjkt wrote:right side (broken)
[snip]
If I may ask, how'd that happen? Was the double hinge assembly that the Superion's head is attached to really tight, and you ended up using too much force to move it? Or did it occur when you moved the red Superion chest pieces into place to peg them into the section with Superion's head?
I suspect it's the latter from what I'm seeing. At least we know now not to use too much force when bringing the chest pieces together. Sorry 'bout your luck.
Posted by prjkt on December 24th, 2014 @ 1:12pm CST
The red chest pieces are on a double hinged extension, and open "out" a fair bit, and don't really tab in too tight. The damage came from how I was rotating the neck plate
Posted by leakin' lubricant on December 26th, 2014 @ 5:40am CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 26th, 2014 @ 9:37pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on December 26th, 2014 @ 11:19pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 26th, 2014 @ 11:42pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Just in case there's anyone who hasn't seen this...
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Posted by Cobotron on December 26th, 2014 @ 11:45pm CST
Don't get too excited. It's just for fun.
@chuckdawg I'd be surprised if you haven't.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 27th, 2014 @ 12:02am CST
Cobotron wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQnbZ5VKNzQ
Don't get too excited. It's just for fun.
@chuckdawg I'd be surprised if you haven't.
Ya know I'm not sure. I've seen Scramble City commercials but from what I understand there's a ton of them out there.
Posted by Autobot032 on December 28th, 2014 @ 3:12am CST
He tweeted about it, which you can visit by clicking on the image that we've embedded below:
Wave one consists of three Aerialbots (Firefly, Sky Dive, Alpha Bravo) and one Stunticon (Dragstrip), all of which combine with Voyager Class Optimus Prime to form Ultra Prime, which you can see in our galleries here.
It may seem odd that an East Coast store would see a sighting of these first, but I was the first to find Energon Leader Class Galvatron all those years ago and in PA no less, so it's not unheard of, just rare. If you have a sighting such as this, share it with us at sightings@seibertron.com and remember to post your findings in the sightings forum as well, and if you have anything news, please send it to news@seibertron.com and you could see your name up here and earn a news credit!
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Posted by It Is Him on December 28th, 2014 @ 5:10am CST
Posted by Va'al on December 28th, 2014 @ 5:29am CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 28th, 2014 @ 6:14am CST
Posted by Peridot on December 28th, 2014 @ 6:47am CST
william-james88 wrote:Why does he say they are 11.99 while the picture shows 9.99$?
I can just barely make out the label; those appear to be pegs for Hero Mashers.
Posted by leakin' lubricant on December 28th, 2014 @ 7:52am CST
prjkt wrote:Agamemnon wrote:rprjkt wrote:Well f*ck
Just broke Silverbolt. Right near the hinges of the piece where Superion's head is attached to.
Still holds together for now, but the other side is also seriously showing strain.... Be careful when you transform him!
Would you be willing to post a pic?
Not the sharpest pics (hand-holdings manual focus macro lense is not easy) but it's still clear....
right side (broken)
left side (serious stress marks)
It's obvious from the underside too (the part that becomes Silverbolt's lower chest - but not risking another transformation here.
Between this and the floppy head on Prime, I'm not having the best of luck
Just checked mine, I've got stress marks on the same side yours broke! I've figured out the cause, it's due to 2 very small tabs that hold the piece in place in jet/bot mode, if you shave them off it prevents the part from flexing too much during transformation. There are also another 2 tabs exactly the same that hold the head section into the chest in jet/bot mode, I've shaved these down also making it easier to pull Superion's head out. Neither of this mods compromise any of the modes, don't know why those tabs are there TBH it's a much smoother transformation without them.
Posted by william-james88 on December 28th, 2014 @ 7:57am CST
leakin' lubricant wrote:
Just checked mine, I've got stress marks on the same side yours broke! I've figured out the cause, it's due to 2 very small tabs that hold the piece in place in jet/bot mode, if you shave them off it prevents the part from flexing too much during transformation. There are also another 2 tabs exactly the same that hold the head section into the chest in jet/bot mode, I've shaved these down also making it easier to pull Superion's head out. Neither of this mods compromise any of the modes, don't know why those tabs are there TBH it's a much smoother transformation without them.
Hey Leaky, could you take some pictures to show us where you shaved off those tabs?
Posted by Cobotron on December 28th, 2014 @ 11:46am CST
It's Leakin'. Mr. Lubricant, if your nasty.
Pics would be nice Sir Lube.
About the CW sighting.
That price has to be a fluke. I hope it's not though.
I just paid $14.99 for Chromia. I don't see Hasbro lowering their prices any time soon.
Posted by Emerje on December 28th, 2014 @ 1:07pm CST
Cobotron wrote:About the CW sighting.
That price has to be a fluke. I hope it's not though.
I just paid $14.99 for Chromia. I don't see Hasbro lowering their prices any time soon.
It was the Target sale price on Generations Deluxe figures last week. Pretty sure the sale is over now, but I'm going to go in and check today to be sure.
Emerje
Posted by Cobotron on December 28th, 2014 @ 2:43pm CST
Emerje wrote:Cobotron wrote:About the CW sighting.
That price has to be a fluke. I hope it's not though.
I just paid $14.99 for Chromia. I don't see Hasbro lowering their prices any time soon.
It was the Target sale price on Generations Deluxe figures last week. Pretty sure the sale is over now, but I'm going to go in and check today to be sure.
Emerje
Ah-ha. That's awesome that the new merch fell under the sale price. I'd call that a, good fluke.
I was actually just at Target. Shelves were pretty bare. No sale on deluxes, but a lot of clearance on AOE exclusives.
Posted by leakin' lubricant on December 28th, 2014 @ 2:47pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Will! Don't call him Leaky! He'll cut the bridge, and will all go down!
It's Leakin'. Mr. Lubricant, if your nasty.
Pics would be nice Sir Lube.
About the CW sighting.
That price has to be a fluke. I hope it's not though.
I just paid $14.99 for Chromia. I don't see Hasbro lowering their prices any time soon.
Here are the pics, sorry for the crappy quality, but I've circled the relevant areas in red for clarity.
The tabs that appear to cause stress to the neck plate.
The tabs that hold the head section into Silverbolts chest (too tightly in my opinion).
"Sir Lube" I like that one, sounds like a posh sex aid.
Posted by Cobotron on December 28th, 2014 @ 2:56pm CST
leakin' lubricant wrote:"Sir Lube" I like that one, sounds like a posh sex aid.
I thought the same thing. After I hit submit, of course. I just let it roll.
Thanx for the pics. Don't mean much yet, but will be helpful soon. They DO make me anxious to get my hands on him soon though.
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on December 28th, 2014 @ 6:14pm CST
Posted by Emerje on December 28th, 2014 @ 7:40pm CST
So I guess Hasbro had a change of heart and won't be doing comic packs just for North America after all. Bummer, not a fan at all of the international packaging.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on December 28th, 2014 @ 8:33pm CST
Emerje wrote:I stand corrected, the sale price is still on at Target, but no CW figs in sight. Did finally pick up Tankor at that price along with Skrapnel and Reflector.
So I guess Hasbro had a change of heart and won't be doing comic packs just for North America after all. Bummer, not a fan at all of the international packaging.
Emerje
Just a correction about that statement, the comics are not made for north america outright while the packages without the comics are for international audiences. The comic packages thus far have been the default while the ones without them are for places that have language laws saying that there must be a translation for the material on the language of the region. Now obviously, the main language of the USA and several places in Canada is English, so the packages come with the comics. However, the main language of Quebec in Canada is French, and thus the comic cannot be included in the packages sold in the province. In reverse scenario, some countries outside of North America don't mind English as the main language found in the product. Hong Kong, for instance, has the packages that come with the comics.
Posted by Autobot032 on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:25am CST
If you want them, you better act fast before Amazon sells out, even at those prices.
Alpha Bravo
Dragstrip
Firefly
Optimus Prime
Silverbolt
Skydive
While these have not hit saturation, yet, they will if you're patient. If you want 'em now and you're willing to pay a premium to obtain them, Amazon will be your best bet right now. Not to mention, with distribution issues in certain parts of the country/world, gas spent, and time most likely wasted, this is actually more economical in the long run. All of the figures are Prime eligible and after $35.00 their shipping is free.
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Posted by megatronus on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:29am CST
Posted by Tranzilla on December 29th, 2014 @ 10:32am CST
Also found that some stores are doing their resets and the RID toys are hitting the pegs. Warrior at $14.99 and the small Legends size at $5.99, so far. Picked up Grimmy.