Transformers Generations 2016 Platinum Edition: Armada of Cyclonus - Pictorial Review

That sweeps head sculpt looks scrumptious

Monkey Optimus Prime (another version of Beast Machines Primal Prime essentially) had the main problem nearly all those platinum sets have at release - being far to expensive. there is also the issue that you not always sure why some of them exist in the 1st place.

They were awful separately!
Worst versions of both.
Who decides these things?

Nice write up shaj!!

I can't help but notice you didn't have the loincloths facing forward..

Also!! Any way we can get the wings opened up to see how pretty they are?

If it weren't for the translucent plastics, this set would've been awesome.

Heck I may nab that Cyclonus if I ever see him separately.

RAR wrote:Monkey Optimus Prime (another version of Beast Machines Primal Prime essentially) had the main problem nearly all those platinum sets have at release - being far to expensive. there is also the issue that you not always sure why some of them exist in the 1st place.

To celebrate each Chinese New Year with a big old Optimus toy.

I was actually surprised by how much I liked the set. It also looks good with the older eHobby set with the eHobby set in front and these guys in the back.

Mkall wrote:If it weren't for the translucent plastics, this set would've been awesome.

Heck I may nab that Cyclonus if I ever see him separately.

That's transparent plastic. Translucent would actually be an improvement here.

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Mkall wrote:If it weren't for the translucent plastics, this set would've been awesome.

Heck I may nab that Cyclonus if I ever see him separately.

That's transparent plastic. Translucent would actually be an improvement here.

No. That is in fact translucent.


It's just that translucency can have gradations. Transparency is what happens when its 100% translucent.


trans·par·ent
transˈperənt/
adjective
(of a material or article) allowing light to pass through so that objects behind can be distinctly seen.
"transparent blue water"
synonyms: clear, crystal clear, see-through, translucent, pellucid, limpid, glassy, vitreous More
easy to perceive or detect.
"the residents will see through any transparent attempt to buy their votes"
synonyms: obvious, evident, self-evident, undisguised, unconcealed, conspicuous, patent, clear, crystal clear, plain, (as) plain as the nose on your face, apparent, unmistakable, easily discerned, manifest, palpable, indisputable, unambiguous, unequivocal
"a transparent attempt to win favor"
having thoughts, feelings, or motives that are easily perceived.
"you'd be no good at poker—you're too transparent"




trans·lu·cent
transˈlo͞osnt,tranzˈlo͞osnt/Submit
adjective
(of a substance) allowing light, but not detailed images, to pass through; semitransparent.
"fry until the onions become translucent"
synonyms: semitransparent, semiopaque, pellucid, limpid, clear;


Not sure how it would improve it if it were less see through than it is.

A shame about all that clear plastic because the metallic paintjobs on those look gorgeous.

Out of interest, is that Cyclonus mold worth owning? He certainly looks the part but his lack of bicep swivels kinda kills it a little. I'm considering going for the UW Grand Galvatron set at some point and having the Cyclonus from that set.

As for Scourge...hmm. The old "stealth bomber" mold is cool, but in the event that Galvatron AND Cyclonus are Voyagers, Scourge needs not to be the odd one out. Same issue applies to TR Scourge (who IMO isn't that great looking to begin with). Ironically enough I'm actually tempted to throw G1 accuracy out the window and get Energon Dreadwing as my Scourge- he's got similar-ish colours, turns into a space boat and looks awesome.

Overcracker wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:

Mkall wrote:If it weren't for the translucent plastics, this set would've been awesome.

Heck I may nab that Cyclonus if I ever see him separately.

That's transparent plastic. Translucent would actually be an improvement here.

No. That is in fact translucent.


It's just that translucency can have gradations. Transparency is what happens when its 100% translucent.


trans·par·ent
transˈperənt/
adjective
(of a material or article) allowing light to pass through so that objects behind can be distinctly seen.
"transparent blue water"
synonyms: clear, crystal clear, see-through, translucent, pellucid, limpid, glassy, vitreous More
easy to perceive or detect.
"the residents will see through any transparent attempt to buy their votes"
synonyms: obvious, evident, self-evident, undisguised, unconcealed, conspicuous, patent, clear, crystal clear, plain, (as) plain as the nose on your face, apparent, unmistakable, easily discerned, manifest, palpable, indisputable, unambiguous, unequivocal
"a transparent attempt to win favor"
having thoughts, feelings, or motives that are easily perceived.
"you'd be no good at poker—you're too transparent"




trans·lu·cent
transˈlo͞osnt,tranzˈlo͞osnt/Submit
adjective
(of a substance) allowing light, but not detailed images, to pass through; semitransparent.
"fry until the onions become translucent"
synonyms: semitransparent, semiopaque, pellucid, limpid, clear;


Not sure how it would improve it if it were less see through than it is.

You say Remold, I say Retool
You say Repaint, I say Redeco

Remold, Retool
Repaint, Redeco

Let's call the whole thing off...

Delta Magnus wrote:Out of interest, is that Cyclonus mold worth owning?

Yes, Big Time. One of the best TF toys of all time to have an aerial cybertronian alt mode. And it gives you a nice kibble free robot that doesnt even look like he has an alt mode.

As for Scourge...hmm. The old "stealth bomber" mold is cool, but in the event that Galvatron AND Cyclonus are Voyagers, Scourge needs not to be the odd one out. Same issue applies to TR Scourge (who IMO isn't that great looking to begin with). Ironically enough I'm actually tempted to throw G1 accuracy out the window and get Energon Dreadwing as my Scourge- he's got similar-ish colours, turns into a space boat and looks awesome.

But he is not super fun to play with. Those boat shells come off (purposefully) and he is one of the fiddliest Transformers outside of MP 05. Looks great though, I am glad to own him. But I would want an army of him. I find the Generations Scourge to have a good balance of complexity and fun and the alt mode has less visible robot kibble:


Transformers Generations Scourge Gallery


Transformers Titans Return Scourge Gallery

Also the weapon storarge on gen Scourge is to die for.

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Out of interest, is that Cyclonus mold worth owning?

Yes, Big Time. One of the best TF toys of all time to have an aerial cybertronian alt mode. And it gives you a nice kibble free robot that doesnt even look like he has an alt mode.

Thanks for the recommendation. Having seen some pics of him looking super dynamic even without the bicep swivels I think I'm convinced. I may very well try and get him, once my living situation is sorted.

As for Scourge...hmm. The old "stealth bomber" mold is cool, but in the event that Galvatron AND Cyclonus are Voyagers, Scourge needs not to be the odd one out. Same issue applies to TR Scourge (who IMO isn't that great looking to begin with). Ironically enough I'm actually tempted to throw G1 accuracy out the window and get Energon Dreadwing as my Scourge- he's got similar-ish colours, turns into a space boat and looks awesome.

But he is not super fun to play with. Those boat shells come off (purposefully) and he is one of the fiddliest Transformers outside of MP 05. Looks great though, I am glad to own him. But I would want an army of him. I find the Generations Scourge to have a good balance of complexity and fun and the alt mode has less visible robot kibble:


Transformers Generations Scourge Gallery


Transformers Titans Return Scourge Gallery

Also the weapon storarge on gen Scourge is to die for.

That's a shame about Energon Dreadwing. I may still pick him or his mold brother up if I find him for cheap, but I'll avoid paying top dollar (sterling?) for him now. As for Gen Scourge, if I DO get Universe Cyclonus I will almost certainly get him too (whilst TR Scourge is More G1 and has a great "soapdish" mode, his robot mode is kinda lacklustre, and his Hasbro paintjob is just appalling) unless I somehow find a better option, which is highly unlikely.

I do wish that HasTak had done a better job on Scourge though. I actually really like his design, especially the bat wings/cape and that gorgeous spaceship mode. Unfortunately the only toy I've ever seen capture that particular...something about him (specifically the silhouette he had with those magnificent wings) is X-Transbots' MP Scourge attempt, which unfortunately isn't a very good figure. None of the other figures quite get it right- the Titanium is oddly proportioned, the Gen figure is good but quite a radical redesign (though still probably my favourite thus far), the Wings of Honour figures were cool and all (especially for a convention exclusive) but are hard to find and are at the end of the day still just redecos of the (admittedly awesome) Cybertron Sideways figure, and the TR toy, even with the Takara paintjob, is kinda tubby, has the Headmaster gimmick and the wings are somewhat underwhelming. Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

It honestly might take until the 50th anniversary of the series for him to get a proper toy

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

It honestly might take until the 50th anniversary of the series for him to get a proper toy

Yeah the best official Classics-ish Ironhide is probably the Arms Micron in my opinion. Didn't people used to say they should have retooled the Gen Orion Pax as Ironhide? That would have been cool. The club could have done that instead of two mostly white figures.

SureShot18 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

It honestly might take until the 50th anniversary of the series for him to get a proper toy

Yeah the best official Classics-ish Ironhide is probably the Arms Micron in my opinion. Didn't people used to say they should have retooled the Gen Orion Pax as Ironhide? That would have been cool. The club could have done that instead of two mostly white figures.

Especially when Nova Prime just does not work.

SureShot18 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:Scourge just seems to be hard to get right.

But not as hard as Ironhide, for some reason.

It honestly might take until the 50th anniversary of the series for him to get a proper toy

Yeah the best official Classics-ish Ironhide is probably the Arms Micron in my opinion. Didn't people used to say they should have retooled the Gen Orion Pax as Ironhide? That would have been cool. The club could have done that instead of two mostly white figures.

Yes that would have been cool. I never thought of it and though I dont like redecos too much, I would have been ok with that. It definitely looks like an ironhide body. I have the arms micron and its really not great. They mess up the movie homage by not giving him the Hasbro weapons and they give him a fake chest and a messed up back kibble piece which is really odd when the Cyberverse Ironhide had the same design but didnt have a fake chest. Here is my list of Best Ironhides, feel free to tell us there why you like the arms micron best http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... oys/34301/

That Cyclonus looks preety tasty. I could really really get behind the translucent parts; they go better with the non-trNslucent parts than usual.

This set looks great

We still need a Platinum two pack with the new Wheelie and Gnaw figures to get the whole movie cast out there.

shajaki wrote:Sweep leader Scourge is the only one completely unchanged (mold wise) in this set.

So is mine faulty? Because the original release would let you sink the head down to hide it more in alt mode and it would push down the landing gear so you could use it. But in this version, the landing gear at the back is already low and ready to be unfolded without you needing to push the head down. Does his head even push down?

Also, here are some more pics, including some with light piping!

william-james88 wrote:Yes that would have been cool. I never thought of it and though I dont like redecos too much, I would have been ok with that. It definitely looks like an ironhide body. I have the arms micron and its really not great. They mess up the movie homage by not giving him the Hasbro weapons and they give him a fake chest and a messed up back kibble piece which is really odd when the Cyberverse Ironhide had the same design but didnt have a fake chest. Here is my list of Best Ironhides, feel free to tell us there why you like the arms micron best http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... oys/34301/

I was just talking about looks since I don't own either version of the mold. Sounds like most of your gripes involve actually having the figure in hand.

Anyway back to Platinum. I noticed in the toy haul thread you got the Cyclonus Armada set on sale. I hope it goes that low in the states at some point. Those decos do look great.

Target has put their platinums on sale in the past, like the Blaster Perceptor set, so there is a chance this one will be on sale too near Black Friday.

I think I might grab this set just to do a parts transplant with my RTS Cyclonus.

I wonder why Hasbro didn't consider how much Beast Hunters Wheeljack resembles IDW Rodimus and use that for some sort of gift set as Rodimus - they still have not repainted that version of that mould yet either (Takara version aside).

Seems like an easy thing to do - simply give it a new head and repaint it the proper colour.

Freshly listed this morning, Wal-Mart.ca has listed the Transformers Generations Platinum Edition Autobot Heroes Set at $219.92 CAD (approximately $170 USD). This 1986 Movie inspired set includes beautiful redeco's of Ultra Magnus (CW Leader), Arcee (Generations Deluxe), Springer (Generations Voyager), Kup (Generations Deluxe), and Blurr (Generations Deluxe). History shows us that that a Platinum set being listed at Wal-Mart.ca usually means it will be exclusive there, whereas in the States it is likely to appear in a number of different stores. Also keep in mind this set is in "low stock" but it is known to fluctuate in and out of stock. What do you think of this set, it's deco's, and inherent cost? Let us know, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!

$170 USD? That seems kinda cheap to me. I might get this if I see it. I kinda wish they would recolor Minimus Ambus to look like Daniel. I think it'd complete the set.

I wonder why they didn't repaint Minimus Ambus into Daniel.

I wonder why they included Minimus at all when Nightstick was removed from Cyclonus in his Platinum set

Kurona wrote:I wonder why they included Minimus at all when Nightstick was removed from Cyclonus in his Platinum set

Well since these are based on the movie which came out before Nightstick I think they just wanted to keep in continuity. That doesn't answer why Minimus is there but does provide a possible reason forr Nightstick's absence.

Kurona wrote:I wonder why they included Minimus at all when Nightstick was removed from Cyclonus in his Platinum set

Because Nightstick is not integral to Cyclonus, he's just an accessory. You wouldnt know you were missing out unless you had him. Minimus is another matter since there is an actual control panel and chair inside Ultra Magnus' chest. Plus, Magnus' head doesnt connect to the bottom, minimus serves as the neck between the Magnus helmet and the chest in terms of the anatomy of the toy's robot mode.

All I really want is that Arcee. And maybe Springer and Ultra Magnus, maybe. I've already got Prime Kup (who's good enough for my purposes) and I don't like that mold as Blurr. Hopefully someone will sell Arcee separately for a sensible price.

Arcee is missing her guns - shame that..

A bit expensive, but anyone who don't have any of these mold should defenitely go for it.

RAR wrote:Arcee is missing her guns - shame that..

Which is... odd, considering she didn't have swords in the movie but did have guns.

This set looks really great. I will most likely be picking this up. That being said I do have a few nitpicks with it. Since they included Minimus Ambus why not repaint him as Daniel in his Exo-suit?

I'm not a huge fan of the Drift mold repainted into Blurr. The new Titans Return Blurr painted like Takara's would have been perfect.

Lastly Arcee didn't get her hand blaster which was in the movie, yet they gave her the IDW swords instead? Also Hasbro seems to have this weird hang up with painting her "bikini bottom" all pink, instead only painting the top half and leaving the bottom white which makes it look more like a belt. This is probably a stock image as I saw Arcee out of package on display at Botcon this year painted as she looks in the movie but the in package figure was presented like she is here.

Two thoughts, both on the same general idea.

1) We've had quite a few Kups by now, why are none of them in animation a curate gray colors?

2) I absolutely hate that Blurr head and have since it was first introduced. Since you're going for a movie accurate Blurr and you're limited to repaints, I would have personally used Cybertron Blurr as the head is dead one. Sure, the vehicle mode is pretty different from movie Blurr but no worse than Generations Blurr is.

Delicon wrote:Two thoughts, both on the same general idea.

1) We've had quite a few Kups by now, why are none of them in animation a curate gray colors?

When was he ever gray in the movie? He's always been a very pale green. This figure is one of the better representations.

2) I absolutely hate that Blurr head and have since it was first introduced. Since you're going for a movie accurate Blurr and you're limited to repaints, I would have personally used Cybertron Blurr as the head is dead one. Sure, the vehicle mode is pretty different from movie Blurr but no worse than Generations Blurr is.

That figure isn't very good though. It's very short, has no leg articulation, and how would you explain away his Cyber Planet key and flight mode? All for what, a better head? Of all the Blurr figures they've made that one is the worst representation.

Emerje

Am I the only one who likes IDW Blurr's head design
It was a bit weird to me at first how it was completely different to the G1 design but it grew on me and I really like it

Kurona wrote:Am I the only one who likes IDW Blurr's head design
It was a bit weird to me at first how it was completely different to the G1 design but it grew on me and I really like it

No, don't worry, I like it too. It may not be best for G1 cartoon Blurr, but it works.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Kurona wrote:Am I the only one who likes IDW Blurr's head design
It was a bit weird to me at first how it was completely different to the G1 design but it grew on me and I really like it

No, don't worry, I like it too. It may not be best for G1 cartoon Blurr, but it works.

I like it too, but I dont like it on that Drift body. The body is made to resemble the bulky attire of a samurai which, while Blurr should be sleeker and way less bulky. Plus that body is designed to make use of the doors folded as scabards but him coming with guns makes no use of this cool design.

As for Cybertron Blurr, thats just a retool of Armada Blurr, one of the worst toys I ever held from one of the worst toylines. I rarely sell my toys since I got into collecting but I made an exception with that one. I didnt want that figure in my house.

william-james88 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Kurona wrote:Am I the only one who likes IDW Blurr's head design
It was a bit weird to me at first how it was completely different to the G1 design but it grew on me and I really like it

No, don't worry, I like it too. It may not be best for G1 cartoon Blurr, but it works.

I like it too, but I dont like it on that Drift body. The body is made to resemble the bulky attire of a samurai which, while Blurr should be sleeker and way less bulky. Plus that body is designed to make use of the doors folded as scabards but him coming with guns makes no use of this cool design.

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong; I totally agree - I don't think it fits Blurr at all and I'm almost convinced they made the retool Blurr just because they realised "oh shit we don't have a Blurr toy yet let's use this". I was just saying it about the head design in general rather than on this extremely unfitting body.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Kurona wrote:Am I the only one who likes IDW Blurr's head design
It was a bit weird to me at first how it was completely different to the G1 design but it grew on me and I really like it

No, don't worry, I like it too. It may not be best for G1 cartoon Blurr, but it works.

I like it too, but I dont like it on that Drift body. The body is made to resemble the bulky attire of a samurai which, while Blurr should be sleeker and way less bulky. Plus that body is designed to make use of the doors folded as scabards but him coming with guns makes no use of this cool design.

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong; I totally agree - I don't think it fits Blurr at all and I'm almost convinced they made the retool Blurr just because they realised "oh **** we don't have a Blurr toy yet let's use this". I was just saying it about the head design in general rather than on this extremely unfitting body.

I like Ryan's fan transformation for that Blurr that made it look taller and slightly sleeker:

I like the IDW head, but the TR Blurr nailed it, no question. I love that toy. and who knows, by the end of TR we can have a good Blurr, Hot Rod, and maybe Kup and Perceptor to go with Magnus, Springer and Arcee to make a beautiful set

Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.

Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.

Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.

Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.

Yeah, outside of some instances of bad lighting or unremastered/badly-remastered video, Kup has definitely always been a very dull shade of teal green in the cartoon.

Even Takara with their unhealthy obsession with show-accuracy has colored every Kup toy in some kind of green shade.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.

Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.

Yeah, outside of some instances of bad lighting or unremastered/badly-remastered video, Kup has definitely always been a very dull shade of teal green in the cartoon.

Even Takara with their unhealthy obsession with show-accuracy has colored every Kup toy in some kind of green shade.

Some parts are lighter than others but generally there is obvious gray on his head and several other spots.

Delicon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Delicon wrote:Emerje, I think you need to rewatch. Google it and you'll see what I mean. There is a little inconsistency with colors here and there but he is mainly gray all throughout G1 animation-wise.

Just did, and it's still a shade of teal, it could be confused for gray depending on the lighting/shading, but it's definitely teal.

Yeah, outside of some instances of bad lighting or unremastered/badly-remastered video, Kup has definitely always been a very dull shade of teal green in the cartoon.

Even Takara with their unhealthy obsession with show-accuracy has colored every Kup toy in some kind of green shade.

Some parts are lighter than others but generally there is obvious gray on his head and several other spots.

A tertiary color does not make it his primary color (that'd be the same as saying that since he has orange on him, that he should instead be colored orange), the rest of him is clearly teal-green, and a darker shade of teal-green