Transformers Generation 1 Season 5's Tommy Kennedy Found and Interviewed
Saturday, January 5th, 2013 12:40AM CST
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After season 5 Tommy Kennedy virtually disappeared from the fandom, all that was known is that he was played by the child actor Jason Jansen (Jankowski). After all these years he's turned up and was recently interviewed by the Digest My Brain blog. Click here to read the full interview.
Here's a YouTube clip from the Seibertron.com channel featuring some of the bumper footage.
If you were a fan, how did it feel “talking” to Optimus Prime? Did they have a crew member say his lines off camera to help with timing or was Peter Cullen’s voice prerecorded?
When saying my lines (if i remember correctly) there was mix of things that were going on. At times someone off camera would recite Optimus Primes lines, but I believe it was a member of the crew and not Peter Cullen. Other times, if the scene was shorter and the camera cut away, I would just pause my lines while saying them to account for another voice to be inserted later. I actually just read through the transcripts on the wiki and remember saying every single one of them – I was able to memorize quite a bit – but I my memory serves me correctly I believe I definitely had some large cue cards up there behind the cameras as well. They were color coded to help break up the lines.
Optimus looked great – up close you could tell it was made from wood and plastic, but it was a real dam good job. A little bit of info, we had two puppeteers working Optimus Prime. I believe one guy was inside his head and moving his mouth while another moved his head from side to side. One of the guys was a famous puppeteer and had worked on Sesame Street inside of “Snuffalupagus” not sure if I have spelled that correctly. I remember he was known for his work.
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Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2013 @ 1:05am CST
Posted by ausbot on January 5th, 2013 @ 1:17am CST
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on January 5th, 2013 @ 1:29am CST
.... Wh.... Ah.... um...
Is that Terry O'Quinn?
Posted by PrymeStriker on January 5th, 2013 @ 1:37am CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Hm, never knew about this lost fifth season.
It's not lost, as in, nobody could ever find it. Rather, very few people remember it.
This season's been on YouTube for years.
Is that Terry O'Quinn?
Jason Jansen.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on January 5th, 2013 @ 1:41am CST
PrymeStriker wrote:Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Hm, never knew about this lost fifth season.
It's not lost, as in, nobody could ever find it. Rather, very few people remember it.
This season's been on YouTube for years.
Yeah, was making a reference/joke, however...
Is that Terry O'Quinn?
PrymeStriker wrote:Jason Jansen.
Oh, I thought Jason Jansen was the dude with the hair.
Posted by Adimus Prime on January 5th, 2013 @ 1:52am CST
This was refreshing.
Posted by PrymeStriker on January 5th, 2013 @ 1:56am CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:PrymeStriker wrote:Jason Jansen.
Oh, I thought Jason Jansen was the dude with the hair.
I thought you meant the dude with the hair. Derped out and forgot who Terry O'Quinn was.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2013 @ 2:07am CST
Well, since Hasbro had nothing to do with those series, maybe they just didn't want to bother.ausbot wrote:I've always wondered why do this and the G2 reruns when they could have just re voiced Victory, headmasters and Masterforce? They has 3 perfectly good series already animated, the toys why not use them?
Not to mention that all three focused on characters Hasbro wasn't selling in their market (Victory, especially), so had they dubbed these three, they'd be advertising a whole bunch of toys kids in the West couldn't buy, instead of the ones that they could.
Plus, Hasbro also didn't have an anime dubbing studio back then. Who would have dubbed the three show's for them?
Posted by Shadowdodger on January 5th, 2013 @ 2:09am CST
But let's talk about how awesome the kids acid-wash denim jacket with the huge Autobot symbol on the back is. Epic jacket is epic.
Posted by Springer on January 5th, 2013 @ 2:18am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that all three focused on characters Hasbro wasn't selling in their market (Victory, especially), so had they dubbed these three, they'd be advertising a whole bunch of toys kids in the West couldn't buy, instead of the ones that they could.
Yeah, Hasbro would never do that in a series! Cough, cough... TFP Breakdown, Smokescreen, Unicron, Winged Vehicon...
Posted by Megatron Wolf on January 5th, 2013 @ 2:21am CST
Posted by PrymeStriker on January 5th, 2013 @ 2:23am CST
Springer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that all three focused on characters Hasbro wasn't selling in their market (Victory, especially), so had they dubbed these three, they'd be advertising a whole bunch of toys kids in the West couldn't buy, instead of the ones that they could.
Yeah, Hasbro would never do that in a series! Cough, cough... TFP Breakdown, Smokescreen, Unicron, Winged Vehicon...
Hasbro is gearing toward entertainment more than toys now. Prime is a TV show first and foremost. The original cartoons existed to promote the toys. They weren't going to release a cartoon where their main characters are guys they couldn't release as toys.
Posted by ausbot on January 5th, 2013 @ 3:06am CST
Posted by jamarmiller on January 5th, 2013 @ 3:42am CST
especially Headmasters
Why make up a 3 episode miniseries, when they had the JP Headmaster series
It looks more like a continuation that rebirth and had characters from all the previous seasons too.
If I ever win the powerball, I am going to pay for the original actors to voice/dub it and have whoever owns the dvd rights release it LOL
Posted by Blackstreak on January 5th, 2013 @ 5:38am CST
Posted by bvzxa on January 5th, 2013 @ 7:07am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2013 @ 5:51pm CST
Not back then, they wouldn't have.Springer wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that all three focused on characters Hasbro wasn't selling in their market (Victory, especially), so had they dubbed these three, they'd be advertising a whole bunch of toys kids in the West couldn't buy, instead of the ones that they could.
Yeah, Hasbro would never do that in a series! Cough, cough... TFP Breakdown, Smokescreen, Unicron, Winged Vehicon...
Like PrymeStriker said, nowadays, Hasbro's become more focused on media than toys. But back during the days of G1, the toys were the highest priority.
Alright. I'll try to break it down as best as I can.ausbot wrote:Well they were selling the Headmasters toys when Headmasters was produced, Masterforce basically had the same characters as the west (very few difference) And Takara still had to get the rights from hasbro so my question still stands why did they never use perfectly good cartoon to sell their toys!
- The Japanese cartoons went in very different directions with very different concepts from what Hasbro was trying to market. for example, Nebulans were a key aspect of the Hasbro continuity, while Takara did away with them completely. Pretenders were giant suits of flesh-based armor in Hasbro canon, while Takara changed them to small, quasi-mystical organic modes. Powermaster tech was just technology, while Godmaster tech was godlike magic. Brainmasters and Breast Animals were key aspects of Victory, yet those did not exist in the Hasbro market.
- The Headmasters only came about once Takara found out that "The Rebirth" would only be as short as it was. If it weren't for them making "The Rebirth", The Headmasters might not have come about as it did, leaving us without it anyway.
- Since Hasbro was pretty much done with the Transformers as a cartoon, having broke ties with Sunbow Productions, it's no wonder Hasbro didn't bother to reach out to the Japanese cartoons if they didn't care to have a Transformers cartoon airing at the time.
- And since Sunbow lost the rights to the Transformers, who would have even dubbed the Japanese shows even if Hasbro did want to bring them over? They would have needed an anime dubbing studio and that would have costed money.
- And such dubbing would have taken time to complete, thus delaying the releases of the JG1 cartoons on TV, maybe even as long as a year. The Headmasters advertises 1987 toys, but might not have made it to broadcast until 1988. Same might have applied for Masterforce and Victory, puching the 1988 and 1989 cartoons back until 1989 and 1990, respectively, making them all promote the toys of the previous year instead of the then-current year. The only way to possibly have avoided such a delay would have been to rush the production, which would have decreased the dubbing quality from the level that it already would have been, which, being done in the 1980s, would have already been pretty low to begin with.
- Speaking of anime dubbing in the 1980s, outside of a few examples like Robotech and Voltron (both rivals to Hasbro and the Transformers), anime dubbing wasn't exactly the most common practice back then.
- And since it wasn't that common, any attempts of a dub being reasonably faithful to both the original Japanese versions and the Hasbro canon would have been a nigh-impossibility due to just how different the JG1 cartoons were from the Hasbro cartoon. In addition to the conceptual differences listed above, there would have been cultural difference and ethical differences to filter through, which would have put whoever was interested in dubbing them in over their heads.
- Regarding the ethical differences, there are a lot of things that most definitely would have had to have been changed, edited, or outright cut out to make them fit for air on 1980's American television. Like when Wilder murdered a puppy on screen in front the little girl who owned it. Or every single time Killbison transformed, since he always stuck out his middle fingers in the stock footage of the sequence. Or the very nature of the Breastforce itself. And all the character deaths and torture scenes would most certainly be not permitted, even for those who get healed or revived later.
- And let's still not forget how many Japanese-only characters get such prominent focus in these shows when Hasbro was trying to sell other characters' toys. The Trainbots, Ginrai, Metalhawk, Minerva, Grand Maximus, Sixknight, Godbomber, Overlord, BlackZarak, Browning, the Brainmasters, the Multiforce, Galaxy Shuttle, Greatshot, Victory Leo, the Breastforce, etc. all were toys Hasbro didn't make and didn't have back then, so it would have been bad business to air cartoons for toys that they didn't own at the time.
- And as for those toys that Hasbro and Takara did share at the time, many of them were nothing alike in terms of character and color scheme. Nearly half of the Masterforce toys were redecos of Hasbro toys in all new non-Hasbro-owned color schemes, and ALL of them were portrayed as different characters than what Hasbro was trying to sell. Minerva was not Nightbeat, Ginrai was not Optimus Prime, Cancer was not Squeezeplay, easygoing Lander was not the adventure-seeking Landmine and so on and so forth. This is not something that a mere dialogue re-scripting could reasonably believably fix.
- Not to mention those who are definitely the same character were still portrayed very differently in the JG1 cartoons. Arcee's a secretary, Galvatron's not insane, Cyclonus and Scourge are bumblers, Daniel acts like a toddler, Wheelie's a punk, Chromedome's a hotheaded youth, Soundwave/Soundblaster is shifty in his allegiances, many Decepticons are just comedic thugs instead of soldiers who just lose, et cetera. Again, this cannot be fix by a simple dialogue rescripting.
- And most importantly, since Hasbro gave Takara the creative permission to do with the cartoons as they pleased, the JG1 cartoons were made with the intention of not having to be released to Hasbro markets, and so were free to contradict as much as they did from Hasbro's continuity. Takara was able to make these shows and all their supplementary material because of the freedom Hasbro gave them and lack of any real need to rely on Hasbro's version of the story. They were made by Japan FOR Japan, not for international release.
tl:dr - Hasbro didn't import them because they didn't fit the mindset that Hasbro was in at the time.
The Headmasters only came about because of how short "The Rebirth" was.jamarmiller wrote:its something I always wondered too
especially Headmasters
Why make up a 3 episode miniseries, when they had the JP Headmaster series
And technically, Hasbro didn't "have" the Japanese shows at the time becuase they had nothing to do with them. The rights were all Japanese-owned.
Mostly only in cameos and eye-candy battle scenes. While watching the series, it becomes pretty clear pretty quick that all of the Headmasters take the center spotlight and shift nearly the entire 1984-1986 cast into either the background, the sidelines, or just outright out of the picture.jamarmiller wrote:It looks more like a continuation that rebirth and had characters from all the previous seasons too.
"Matrix editing"?Blackstreak wrote:I remember watching those. I didn't care for the Matrix editing of the series.
Posted by Bouncy X on January 5th, 2013 @ 6:06pm CST
before it became widely available on VHS around here, thats all i had to watch so i watched it a lot. and it has all the commercials so it was always nostalgic watching that. filled with toy commercials for transformers, gi joe, my little pony and potato head kids. lol
anyway...i never see anyone ever mention this airing of the movie, i guess many people missed it. lol amazingly its the reason i love the movie today. when i saw it in theaters i was sooo disappointed and didnt like it. then this airing happened just a year later and i thought it was awesome...i guess i matured between 9 and 10yrs old. lol
Posted by NTESHFT on January 5th, 2013 @ 6:12pm CST
Posted by jamarmiller on January 5th, 2013 @ 6:23pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:.....................Mostly only in cameos and eye-candy battle scenes. While watching the series, it becomes pretty clear pretty quick that all of the Headmasters take the center spotlight and shift nearly the entire 1984-1986 cast into either the background, the sidelines, or just outright out of the picture.jamarmiller wrote:It looks more like a continuation that rebirth and had characters from all the previous seasons too.
...............
Ummmmmm................thats kind of the point though
Its the slow changing of the main cast ( from old to new ) and not a sudden change, say like Victory.
We could enjoy the new cast take the spotlight while still seeing the old cast make lots of cameos and such. WE could enjoy seeing the cast standing next to the old cast.
I mean Hasbro went with Sunbow then on to DIC with GI JOE and it was the same continuity but seriously dumbed down. way more than the JP Headmasters series was. As a kid , I would have loved the Headmaster series just for the sheer amount of new episodes. As a kid I was seriously disappointed we got 3 eps and only 3 eps
I remember ( like a previous poster stated ) just waiting and waiting for new eps to show with the new toys and nothing ever happened ( until I grew up and found the JP series existed )
It was a serious wasted opportunity IMVHO
Posted by Sabrblade on January 5th, 2013 @ 7:35pm CST
It wasn't really that slow. It was pretty much just as immediate as the changeover from the 1984/1985 cast to the 1986 cast as seen in the Transformers: The Movie. Or the changeover from the 1986 cast to the 1987 cast in "The Rebirth". Once the Headmasters appeared, they became the stars right then and there.jamarmiller wrote:Ummmmmm................thats kind of the point though
Its the slow changing of the main cast ( from old to new ) and not a sudden change, say like Victory.
The only thing gradual was the shifting of the old cast out to make room for the new cast.
But even then, as the series went on, the cameos became less and less occuring, with many of the 1984-1986 cast just up and disappearing. Some of which even vanish after only one or two appearances early on in the series.jamarmiller wrote:We could enjoy the new cast take the spotlight while still seeing the old cast make lots of cameos and such. WE could enjoy seeing the cast standing next to the old cast.
That I can understand. But unlike the DiC Joe cartoon, The Headmasters wasn't so much dumbed down as it was increasingly more violent and crueler in tone compared to the U.S. cartoon. character would get murdered, tortured, brutalized, and just mauled to an extent far greater than what had come before outside of the 1986 movie.jamarmiller wrote:I mean Hasbro went with Sunbow then on to DIC with GI JOE and it was the same continuity but seriously dumbed down. way more than the JP Headmasters series was. As a kid , I would have loved the Headmaster series just for the sheer amount of new episodes. As a kid I was seriously disappointed we got 3 eps and only 3 eps
I can see how one would feel like that, but it just wasn't a feasible idea back then. Toy sales were declining, so less money was being made, so the funds for cartoon material were decreasing lower and lower. If Hasbro couldn't afford to produce their own cartoons at the time, how would they have afforded importing three more cartoons that they didn't have the necessary resources to Americanize for?jamarmiller wrote:I remember ( like a previous poster stated ) just waiting and waiting for new eps to show with the new toys and nothing ever happened ( until I grew up and found the JP series existed )
It was a serious wasted opportunity IMVHO
Posted by gothsaurus on January 7th, 2013 @ 10:25am CST
As for the fifth season chatter, it is too bad Headmasters couldn't make it over here... or have seen a release on VHS at the time (given the violence was too much for TV). Just getting those dubbed by the original USA voice actors would have been amazing. It could have drifted over to a DVD release now.
Ah well, pie in the sky dreaming. We should just appreciate that we can get an affordable copy on DVD in the USA now!!
Posted by Sabrblade on January 7th, 2013 @ 12:14pm CST
I myself don't hate it, but I do see the negative aspects of the show that their disdains for it are based from.
Posted by gothsaurus on January 7th, 2013 @ 12:23pm CST
Posted by omarvance on January 7th, 2013 @ 9:52pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on January 7th, 2013 @ 10:58pm CST
Probably resting in pieces in a landfill somewhere.omarvance wrote:I wonder whatever happened to the Optimus "puppet" or if there are any production images of it........ Anyone know?
I think the Tim Speidel interview the Jason Jansen interview links to mentioned that it was disposed of.
Posted by omarvance on January 8th, 2013 @ 6:40pm CST
Anyone know what the end credits were like for these episodes? I found the opening on Youtube plus all of Tommy's parts, just no closing.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 8th, 2013 @ 6:58pm CST
RetroJunk has it here - http://www.retrojunk.com/content/tv/3971/index/omarvance wrote:Shame it was disposed of. Still would love for some production photos to turn up of it.
Anyone know what the end credits were like for these episodes? I found the opening on Youtube plus all of Tommy's parts, just no closing.
Bottom-right video under the "Credits" section.