Transformers Exclusive WFC Earthrise Thundercracker and Skywarp Found at Target

Target.com still doesn't have them. I guess I'm checking my Target in the morning.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Target.com still doesn't have them. I guess I'm checking my Target in the morning.

I can say with 100% certainty that target prioritizes it's stores over the site; I know this cuz my studio series scrapper pre-order got delayed by several weeks, but the day I got the email, I found his case being put out on the shelves at my local target - that's right, a pre-order got delayed, but they had already sent that same product to their stores

Wow, interesting to see us Overseas fans haven't been screwed over by this exclusivity nonsense, for a change.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Wow, interesting to see us Overseas fans haven't been screwed over by this exclusivity nonsense, for a change.

At least nowadays, it's more "exclusivity" than anything. Hasbro want to sell their toys to the maximum of people after all. That is, unless it's the MPM line to Quebec via Toys R Us.

Speaking of "exclusive", any idea who will pick up the Select Spy Team for Canada? Because I missed the Age 3 And Up preorders like a jackass.

Exclusives are not my real issue. Giving an exclusive to a company, such as Target, that doesn't exist beyond America should be null and void beyond that border.

It has taken me more effort than it should source the SIEGE Rainmakers, Ratchet etc without resorting to 'extortion by eBay', due to this issue.

If Hasbro want to sell the most toys to the most people. Keep the exclusive deals within America. Outside of that, open the market to every outlet across the rest of the world. That would bring in the big bucks.

The Rainmakers didn’t show up in my area until Christmas last year. Back in July, the Target website said they were at a store in Long Island and I drove something like 50 miles to find out that they hadn’t been put on the shelves yet. Plus, there was already a guy in the toy isle who said he had been waiting hours for staff to bring them out. I wound up ordering them on eBay for $150.

This year I’m skipping the hunt and going straight to eBay for Skywarp and Thundercracker. Come to think of it, in 10 years of collecting (classics era), I’ve never bought anything from a brick and mortar that hadn’t been out for at least 3 months already.

The eternal story of random distribution. Some stores have pyramids high of so much stuff that even on clearance it cannot sell, while other stores have zip.

After DECADES, that problem was never fixed. And I think it never will be.

Guess it's time to start looking. In a way, I was enjoying the break.

Gonna check out my local target today! Thanks for the heads up!!

Seems like a lot of *firsts* are found in the bay Area, one of the aspects I miss about living there, though general distribution usually starts on the East Coast and moves West (Unless its Walgreens and its the opposite)

I'm living proof as I live only about 100 miles away, and rarely if ever see anything until months later despite living in a largely populated area with many stores to choose from. Its fine, the seeker duo ore not on my bucket list, but I have been itching a bit just to see something new. I believe it when you say the Target stores have priority over the website. I preordered wave 2 and 3 deluxes back in February (wasn't even the BOGO sale), but if I see them anywhere else first, then I'll definitely be canceling those pre-orders. Still hoping to see *something* from wave 2 over the first weekend of July based on nothing but a hunch and probably false hope.

All you folks getting SkyLynx & Scorponok early; enjoy, because who knows when we will be getting them. Also, I know I shouldn't complain because MANY geographical areas do miss out on certain items, but the US is certainly not immune. There are several TF's we never get, so the whole "distributing to the most fans" thing goes out the window, I have no idea what Hasbro's thought process is, or why they do what they do.

Retailer "Exclusives" are generally just by country. If Best Buy US has an exclusive DVD, Best Buy Canada has first right of refusal on said DVD. If they opt out, another retailer then has the opportunity to pick it up.

Same is true of toys. In Canada, Zellers and TRU would split the Target exclusives.

Still wondering who in Canada will pick this up. I'm thinking EB...

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Retailer "Exclusives" are generally just by country. If Best Buy US has an exclusive DVD, Best Buy Canada has first right of refusal on said DVD. If they opt out, another retailer then has the opportunity to pick it up.

Same is true of toys. In Canada, Zellers and TRU would split the Target exclusives.

Still wondering who in Canada will pick this up. I'm thinking EB...

Their existence was first discovered through TRU Canada shelf tags.

william-james88 wrote:Their existence was first discovered through TRU Canada shelf tags.

Seriously? Don't know how I mised that post. Thanks!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I forsee Maverick being repainted into a GI Joe skystriker.

My first thought when I saw Skylynx was the Defiant Shuttle Complex.

It was said in a leak a while back that we do have a G.I.Joe crossover figure coming sometime soon. At the time I said a Sky Lynx Defiant would be ideal, but now with Maverick revealed I'm leaning towards a Skystriker repaint, maybe named Ace (or probably Captain Ace). I hope Maverick turns out well because it has a lot of potential.

Fasttrack's spear mode looks better than I thought it would. I do wish it had the extra prongs, but if you look closely he does have the prongs sculpted into the underside of his cockpit/inside his chest so maybe the Roritchi repaint will have the details painted red to make them pop out? They wouldn't be visible in bot and alt mode.



Emerje

Greetings Seibertronians! This past Friday, Hasbro carried over their Fan Friday tradition by revealing the forthcoming Deluxe Class Fasttrack's Spear Mode! This mode is designed to be used primarily by Titan Class Scorponok. Interestingly, while his G1 self never used a Spear like that, a redeco of him did in the show, Super God Masterforce. There Scorp was redecoed into the black and gold Black Zarak. We already have had a leak of Roritchi, itself a possible repaint of Fasttrack, so can fans expect a Black Zarak in the future that won't succumb to Gold Plastic Syndrome? Or is this just a fun throwback to an old repaint? Only time will tell.





Are you getting Fasttrack to go with your pre-ordered Scorponok? Getting Fasttrack just to give your tf some roller skates? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

Checked the Targets in El Paso, Texas. Nada, hoping not to miss out on these guys

Emerje wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I forsee Maverick being repainted into a GI Joe skystriker.

My first thought when I saw Skylynx was the Defiant Shuttle Complex.

It was said in a leak a while back that we do have a G.I.Joe crossover figure coming sometime soon. At the time I said a Sky Lynx Defiant would be ideal, but now with Maverick revealed I'm leaning towards a Skystriker repaint, maybe named Ace (or probably Captain Ace). I hope Maverick turns out well because it has a lot of potential.

Totally had not heard that Joe news and have totally been on a Joe kick lately. Captain Ace, love that! Just don’t want them to have vehicles that turn into a robo Duke or CyberDestro it could go funky like the spindly oft-awkward Star Wars crossovers. Brrr, cringy.

As I assume the Part Work is drawing to a close (maybe?) they have been releasing a lot more of the GI Joe/Transformers crossovers to fill in the gaps. They all vary wildly in tone and execution. I'm surprised they haven't done more crossover figures. A few of them in Earthrise alone could have been great as knowing redecos or minor retools.

"Spear mode" be like:



Still, I'm so getting Scorpy and Fasty.

Fasttrack's spear mode is neat but I'm also curious if he has any decent Weaponizer/Modulator configurations for other figures.

So is the spear mode a good indicator that Black Zarak will be made? Scorponok didn't have a spear, so the main reason for it would be to redeco it for Black Zarak, right?

Rodimus Prime wrote:So is the spear mode a good indicator that Black Zarak will be made? Scorponok didn't have a spear, so the main reason for it would be to redeco it for Black Zarak, right?

I call Black Zarak more than likely.
A Takara Tomy Mail Select Exclusive. Calling it right now.

Most of Earthrise has been Takara Tomy Mall exclusive do far so it would just join the rest

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So is the spear mode a good indicator that Black Zarak will be made? Scorponok didn't have a spear, so the main reason for it would be to redeco it for Black Zarak, right?

I call Black Zarak more than likely.
A Takara Tomy Mail Select Exclusive. Calling it right now.

Grand Maximus, take two. For the record, I consider Black Zarak a 50/50 shot, because the manga teased 5 more possible releases after God Neptune.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So is the spear mode a good indicator that Black Zarak will be made? Scorponok didn't have a spear, so the main reason for it would be to redeco it for Black Zarak, right?

I call Black Zarak more than likely.
A Takara Tomy Mail Select Exclusive. Calling it right now.

Grand Maximus, take two. For the record, I consider Black Zarak a 50/50 shot, because the manga teased 5 more possible releases after God Neptune.

At least Black Zarak is much more important for the Transformers Universe than Grand Maximus. So I don't think he'll shelf warm like his big brother.

Rodimus Prime wrote:So is the spear mode a good indicator that Black Zarak will be made? Scorponok didn't have a spear, so the main reason for it would be to redeco it for Black Zarak, right?

It's been all but confirmed that we're getting Ririchi (Black Zarack's gold Fasttrack) in Selects which appears to be Hasbro initiated of all things. Pair that with it having a spear mode and...



Emerje

Can you guys help me out with something? How exactly does the map extra work? Do you have to cut out the hexagon outline to line them up? What's the use of collecting it?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So is the spear mode a good indicator that Black Zarak will be made? Scorponok didn't have a spear, so the main reason for it would be to redeco it for Black Zarak, right?

I call Black Zarak more than likely.
A Takara Tomy Mail Select Exclusive. Calling it right now.

Grand Maximus, take two. For the record, I consider Black Zarak a 50/50 shot, because the manga teased 5 more possible releases after God Neptune.

At least Black Zarak is much more important for the Transformers Universe than Grand Maximus. So I don't think he'll shelf warm like his big brother.

Extra Pirate Gear or bust.

Man, I wish I hadn't skipped on Devastator, Bruticus or others because it would absolutely rock to have Black Zarak as with King Poseidon being releases the Nine Demon Generals are now almost complete.

-Kanrabat- wrote:At least Black Zarak is much more important for the Transformers Universe than Grand Maximus. So I don't think he'll shelf warm like his big brother.

He didn't exactly shelf warm. It's just that TT had a pre-determined number to open up the possibility of the added Pretender, and that goal was not met. IMHO, both BZ and Grand are of equal importance in TF fiction. As to whether or not one is well liked more than the other overall, wh can say? I equally like them both.

william-james88 wrote:Can you guys help me out with something? How exactly does the map extra work? Do you have to cut out the hexagon outline to line them up? What's the use of collecting it?

For those trying to collect the whole map, yes I do believe you have to cut out the conformed shape to get them all to line up. So far it just reveals different systems and planets in TF Mythos, what the overall purpose for the map is, I'm unsure, other than it was revealed a while back that there would be 4 waves in Earthrise.

Skritz wrote:Man, I wish I hadn't skipped on Devastator, Bruticus or others because it would absolutely rock to have Black Zarak as with King Poseidon being releases the Nine Demon Generals are now almost complete.

I've been saying for quite some time, some 3rd party company needs to make capes for these guys Though Trypticon, Predaking, Dev, and in theory BZ would be far larger than the other 5.

I'd love to see a future animated series where those 9 would battle against their Autobot equivalents!

o.supreme wrote:IMHO, both BZ and Grand are of equal importance in TF fiction. As to whether or not one is well liked more than the other overall, wh can say? I equally like them both.

The thing is, in Masterforce, Grand Max was only ever just a second tier player who always played second fiddle to God Ginrai, while BlackZarak went on to achieve main antagonist status what with his having been both the main villain of the previous series in snazzy a new form and the host body for Devil Z.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:IMHO, both BZ and Grand are of equal importance in TF fiction. As to whether or not one is well liked more than the other overall, wh can say? I equally like them both.

The thing is, in Masterforce, Grand Ma was only ever just a second tier player who always played second fiddle to God Ginrai, while BlackZarak went on to achieve main antagonist status what with his having been both the main villain of the previous series in snazzy a new form and the host body for Devil Z.

I at least watched Masterforce and Black Zarak gave me a lasting impression. Also, the G1 toy had infamy due to it's relative rarity being a Japan exclusive. Add on top of that the GPS, making unbroken ones even more rare and desirable.

So appart that GIANT and super expensive action figure that came out years ago, it would be the first time a Black Zarak finally come out.

This make me think. I do have G1 Scorponok. So I think I'll hold on buying ER Scorponok and Fastrack for the inevitable Select Black Zarak and his partner.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:IMHO, both BZ and Grand are of equal importance in TF fiction. As to whether or not one is well liked more than the other overall, wh can say? I equally like them both.

The thing is, in Masterforce, Grand Ma was only ever just a second tier player who always played second fiddle to God Ginrai, while BlackZarak went on to achieve main antagonist status what with his having been both the main villain of the previous series in snazzy a new form and the host body for Devil Z.

I at least watched Masterforce and Black Zarak gave me a lasting impression. Also, the G1 toy had infamy due to it's relative rarity being a Japan exclusive. Add on top of that the GPS, making unbroken ones even more rare and desirable.

So appart that GIANT and super expensive action figure that came out years ago, it would be the first time a Black Zarak finally come out.

This make me think. I do have G1 Scorponok. So I think I'll hold on buying ER Scorponok and Fastrack for the inevitable Select Black Zarak and his partner.

Really? Compared to the Titan figure, the old G1 figure looks like a Tonka toy. Unless you have a strict rule against getting more than 1 of each mold, I'd say grab ER Scorponok.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Really? Compared to the Titan figure, the old G1 figure looks like a Tonka toy. Unless you have a strict rule against getting more than 1 of each mold, I'd say grab ER Scorponok.

You're the first to even made that waky comparison.

But yeah, I do have a rule is no doubles for titans. I have G1 Fortmax so I sold my underwhelming CW Fortmax. I never had and don't plan to have G1 Omega, Trippy, nor 'Plex. So by getting a Select Zarak, I'd be cheating just a bit. It's the character that I really want after all.

Still, if Zarak is not announced by the time of the last batch of Scorponoks hit stores on sale (like for my Omega Supreme), I'll just get Scorpy.

So I've decided that Scourge is now on my list for 'figures I will buy a replacement from' which also happen to be a Deluxe or Voyager we might see in Earthrise or the next line, given we have seen Cyclonus as an actual toy and Galvatron on the package. That and his Targetmaster partner was released in Siege make me believe he might be getting a new shot at life very soon.

So, what prompted this from me? Simple. I want to bitch about my Titans Return Scourge! He was always a mess but today while trying to pose him with his Targetmaster he crumbled into pieces. Now he can be reassembled with friction but his stability and integrity is so compromised I'm almost tempted to chuck him in the garbage, which is something I'd never do.

I didn't like the feel of TR Scourge in hand so I sold him.
For now, my G1 do the job. But I wouldn't mind if they'd remake him properly this time.

I really hope Earthrise has a Scourge/Sweeps waiting in the wings...

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Really? Compared to the Titan figure, the old G1 figure looks like a Tonka toy. Unless you have a strict rule against getting more than 1 of each mold, I'd say grab ER Scorponok.

You're the first to even made that waky comparison.

But yeah, I do have a rule is no doubles for titans. I have G1 Fortmax so I sold my underwhelming CW Fortmax. I never had and don't plan to have G1 Omega, Trippy, nor 'Plex. So by getting a Select Zarak, I'd be cheating just a bit. It's the character that I really want after all.

Still, if Zarak is not announced by the time of the last batch of Scorponoks hit stores on sale (like for my Omega Supreme), I'll just get Scorpy.

Let me refine that comment a bit. The robot mode for G1 Scorpy seems very blockish and inarticulate compared to ER Scorponok. His scorpion mode is not bad. If I had the money, I'd get both Scorponok and Zarak (if he'll be made) because technically they're 2 completely separate characters. And it's not like Zarak would be a straight repaint of Scorponok, they would change some things, most notably the head. I assume it would still be a double headmaster like Scorponok, so I wonder what the smaller robots would be called. One of them has to be Devil Z, but which one?

As for Scourge, I also hope for a new one, preferably a voyager. That way the TR figure coukd become just a random sweep and be a troop builder.

Well, I paid the 400$CAN+ for my G1 Scorpy because I REALLY wanted him. I love every aspects of it, blockyness and all.

But for Omega Supreme, I "always wanted it" since my early childhood. But once I got a proper look at it with my adult eyes, I noped. He's just a big football with kibbles. Plus he don't transform. He simply explode in a zillion pieces like a lego set. There's a limit to partsforming. So I was glad to get only the Siege one.

As for G1 Metroplex and Trypticon, both look great but are way too expensive and would be irrelevant because I have the modern ones.

So, if Select Black Zarak happen and have remoldings compared to ER Scorponok, it would be even better. I'll finally be able to get a TRUE Black Zarak without having to buy the super expensive (and weird looking) Maketoys version.

Skritz wrote:I really hope Earthrise has a Scourge/Sweeps waiting in the wings...

It would be strange if we didn't get a Scourge at retail and maybe a Selects Sweep in slightly darker or lighter colors to go with the rumored Galvatron and leaked Cyclonus. If not in ER then certainly in part 3.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:IMHO, both BZ and Grand are of equal importance in TF fiction. As to whether or not one is well liked more than the other overall, wh can say? I equally like them both.

The thing is, in Masterforce, Grand Max was only ever just a second tier player who always played second fiddle to God Ginrai, while BlackZarak went on to achieve main antagonist status what with his having been both the main villain of the previous series in snazzy a new form and the host body for Devil Z.

That is true, and I understand for the point of the narrative, and Ginrai being the hero why that is the case. Although both Grand and BZ were physically smaller than their Headmasters series counterparts, they were considerably more powerful. And yes of course, BZ's power increased significantly after being possessed by Devil Z. Also, while Grand played 2nd or 3rd fiddle to Ginrai and Metalhawk, he made such significant contributions as providing the plans for the Godbomber.

The 2 part episode which is basically a tag-tam battle on the moon between Overlord & BZ vs God Ginrai and Grand Maximus is probably my favorite of the series, the one time whe Grand actually gets to fight BZ somewhat.

I figured Grand had the same problem as Omega Supreme or Metroplex in previous series. Sort of a "Superman Syndrome" you cant use them all the time, because they would always win, and finding threats big enough for them to need to be used were few and far between, without stealing the spotlight of the hero Ginrai.

I believe there was a BZ homage made form Energon Scorponok a few years back, but yeas, to have a modern titan BZ would be amazing. I look forward as the weeks go on to more Earthrise reveals overall.

Rodimus Prime wrote:If I had the money, I'd get both Scorponok and Zarak (if he'll be made) because technically they're 2 completely separate characters.

If by just "Zarak" you mean BlackZarak, then... No, they were the same guy.

Well, okay, BlackZarak technically got a new identity when he became the physical host for Devil Z, but on his own, he was Scorponok in a new upgraded (admittedly smaller, but still more powerful) form.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:If I had the money, I'd get both Scorponok and Zarak (if he'll be made) because technically they're 2 completely separate characters.

If by just "Zarak" you mean BlackZarak, then... No, they were the same guy.

Well, okay, BlackZarak technically got a new identity when he became the physical host for Devil Z, but on his own, he was Scorponok in a new upgraded (admittedly smaller, but still more powerful) form.

That's splitting hairs. Yeah, I meant Devil Z. It's been a few years since I've seen Masterforce, I remembered Black Zarak being the transtector for Devil Z. I didn't even remember that he was around before that. I guess it's time to watch Headmasters and Masterforce again.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:If I had the money, I'd get both Scorponok and Zarak (if he'll be made) because technically they're 2 completely separate characters.

If by just "Zarak" you mean BlackZarak, then... No, they were the same guy.

Well, okay, BlackZarak technically got a new identity when he became the physical host for Devil Z, but on his own, he was Scorponok in a new upgraded (admittedly smaller, but still more powerful) form.

That's splitting hairs. Yeah, I meant Devil Z. It's been a few years since I've seen Masterforce, I remembered Black Zarak being the transtector for Devil Z. I didn't even remember that he was around before that. I guess it's time to watch Headmasters and Masterforce again.

Yeah, Devil Z's a ball of energy. BlackZarak was Scorponok in a new form from outer space, who came to Earth in the show long after Devil Z was already there.

Honestly, if they are going to do Black Zarak, I'd rather it be Leader or Commander class because I plan to pick up Scorponok, and prefer not to buy repaints of Titans.

Though, I will say, a Commander class Scorponok would be an instant buy just because he'd be tall, but not so tall that he can't really be with other Decepticons without dwarfing them. Especially because while the Titan Scorponok looks great, at that size, I feel it definitely represents Zarak+Scorponok, rather than just Scorponok

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Honestly, if they are going to do Black Zarak, I'd rather it be Leader or Commander class because I plan to pick up Scorponok, and prefer not to buy repaints of Titans.

Though, I will say, a Commander class Scorponok would be an instant buy just because he'd be tall, but not so tall that he can't really be with other Decepticons without dwarfing them. Especially because while the Titan Scorponok looks great, at that size, I feel it definitely represents Zarak+Scorponok, rather than just Scorponok

Such a smaller Scorpy would be in line with the Marvel comics. That would be the Scorpy who was the creator of the pretenders in the comicverse.

A smaller Scorp would also fit old IDWverse where he wasn't that much bigger then UM.

ZeroWolf wrote:A smaller Scorp would also fit old IDWverse where he wasn't that much bigger then UM.

Still in a way we already have him with the G1 original.

I bet there will be an undersized KO of the ER Titan at the very least if some Chinese bootlegger is paying attention.

Same goes for a Commander Class Fort Max. Perhaps even...

Commander Class Spreem

Glad to finally see Fasttrack's spear mode, it looks alright.

Cyclonus looks like he'll be neat.

After seeing confirmation that the production ER Megs will just be plain flat gray like the original SIEGE Megs... I'm back to wanting him cancelled and turned into RiD Bludgeon. IMO there is no redeeming value to him as a Megatron toy now.