Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time
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Transformers: Dark Of The Moon has found its way into the 5th spot of the highest grossing movies of all time behind Avatar, Titanic, Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallow Part 2 and The Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King.
After grossing $1 Billion dollars, it makes DOTM the 10th billion dollar grossing movie in history. With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?
After grossing $1 Billion dollars, it makes DOTM the 10th billion dollar grossing movie in history. With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?
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Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277044)
Posted by Treetop Maximus on August 15th, 2011 @ 11:14pm CDT
Posted by Treetop Maximus on August 15th, 2011 @ 11:14pm CDT
Avatar at #1? My faith in humanity is practically non-existent at this point.
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Posted by Autobot032 on August 16th, 2011 @ 12:05am CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on August 16th, 2011 @ 12:05am CDT
5?? O_o
Even I didn't see that coming. I am truly stunned by this news. I'm incredibly shocked and surprised. It's a pleasant surprise, no doubt, but wow.
If Hasbro doesn't make a sequel, they're out of their collective mind.
Though, it could be argued that they should end on a high note while the gettin's good. I doubt it though, they'll milk this for all it's worth and I can't say I blame 'em.
Even I didn't see that coming. I am truly stunned by this news. I'm incredibly shocked and surprised. It's a pleasant surprise, no doubt, but wow.
If Hasbro doesn't make a sequel, they're out of their collective mind.
Though, it could be argued that they should end on a high note while the gettin's good. I doubt it though, they'll milk this for all it's worth and I can't say I blame 'em.
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Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 12:13am CDT
Skyline earned enough money to warrent a sequel, so I lost my faith in humanity way earlier.
Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 12:13am CDT
Treetop Maximus wrote:Avatar at #1? My faith in humanity is practically non-existent at this point.
Skyline earned enough money to warrent a sequel, so I lost my faith in humanity way earlier.
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Posted by Slashercon on August 16th, 2011 @ 12:25am CDT
Posted by Slashercon on August 16th, 2011 @ 12:25am CDT
WoW!!! Just WOW!! I'm happy that it made alot of "dough", but now I dont see how Hasbro is going to let go of this franchise. Just hope it doesn't turn to crap like Aliens, or Shrek, or Ice Age, or AVP, or Saw. (oh I forgot...Saw was always garbage.)
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Posted by Treetop Maximus on August 16th, 2011 @ 12:37am CDT
I was so pumped to see that movie...
...Then I saw it's IMDb page.
Posted by Treetop Maximus on August 16th, 2011 @ 12:37am CDT
Capt.Failure wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:Avatar at #1? My faith in humanity is practically non-existent at this point.
Skyline earned enough money to warrent a sequel, so I lost my faith in humanity way earlier.
I was so pumped to see that movie...
...Then I saw it's IMDb page.
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Posted by Biddybot on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:10am CDT
Posted by Biddybot on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:10am CDT
I bought a copy of Skyline and it's actually an excellent direct-to-video movie, or at least what we trash-lovers used to call direct-to-video (direct-to-dvd doesn't have quite the same ring or connotation, I think). I also genuinely admire its makers for being able to talk ANY studio into backing them and getting this sort of nonsense into the theatres in the first place.
Even the commentary tracks on this one's dvd are fun and worth listening to. And yes, everyone involved with this movie was perfectly aware that they were making video trash and what's more, they had a darn good time doing so. Their tongue-in-cheek attitude comes through in the finished product and is a large part of why I quite enjoy this crazy little film...
Oh, and good for DOTM for breaking its billion cherry--yay!
Once was enough for me at the theatre, but I WILL buy the dvd.
Even the commentary tracks on this one's dvd are fun and worth listening to. And yes, everyone involved with this movie was perfectly aware that they were making video trash and what's more, they had a darn good time doing so. Their tongue-in-cheek attitude comes through in the finished product and is a large part of why I quite enjoy this crazy little film...
Oh, and good for DOTM for breaking its billion cherry--yay!
Once was enough for me at the theatre, but I WILL buy the dvd.
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:27am CDT
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:27am CDT
Some of you are so sensitive, its pretty funny, haha.
I think everyone knows by now that I didn't care for the movies, so by extension I don't care that it made it this high on the board.
I think most people saw this movie since it was marketed the hell out to the public.
+ kids
+ TF fans
And you have a huge number of ticket payers.
I'm not saying movie critics are the voice of reason in regards to these movies, as lots of movies I love are rated low on rotten tomatoes, but I think I know why TF "fans" (some just like the movie coz of Transforming robots, but don't know anything more than the movie) like these movies, and it seems to be mainly due to the visual content (as some of you have professed to already).
Now, i'm not trying to be mean, but I do feel that liking a Transformers movie mainly for the visual content is somewhat of a weak reason to like a movie. I'm not saying its bad that you like the CGI, but I'm urging people to demand more from their movie experience. I dug the visuals, sure. But to me, and I'm sure to a lot of you, your eyes > brain see it as nothing but fake visuals. Thats simply the folly of CGI, no way around it. But if you add character, and story, and plot, you end up with a helluva good reason to overlook this instinctual response in your brain and actually become emotionally attached to the characters, and further, to the movie.
Of course this is the film industry today, and why more and more movies with better CGI gather more public interest > more CGI movies > loop
There (should be) more to movies than just CGI (albeit amazing); more than just nostalgia throwbacks, and mainly, more story. Less formulaic a progression of events would help too. It seemed like Sam is always going to be saved at just the right time. Its good once in a while for suspense, but when hes falling, and I don't care about the outcome coz I know hes going to be saved, the movie has in that instance failed. I could go on citing examples
, but I hope I made my points with clarity
Oh, and if anyone comes at me with that "It's a kids' movie" comment, I will sock you!
Just because a movie is for the youth doesn't mean it doesn't need good storytelling.
I think everyone knows by now that I didn't care for the movies, so by extension I don't care that it made it this high on the board.
I think most people saw this movie since it was marketed the hell out to the public.
+ kids
+ TF fans
And you have a huge number of ticket payers.
I'm not saying movie critics are the voice of reason in regards to these movies, as lots of movies I love are rated low on rotten tomatoes, but I think I know why TF "fans" (some just like the movie coz of Transforming robots, but don't know anything more than the movie) like these movies, and it seems to be mainly due to the visual content (as some of you have professed to already).
Now, i'm not trying to be mean, but I do feel that liking a Transformers movie mainly for the visual content is somewhat of a weak reason to like a movie. I'm not saying its bad that you like the CGI, but I'm urging people to demand more from their movie experience. I dug the visuals, sure. But to me, and I'm sure to a lot of you, your eyes > brain see it as nothing but fake visuals. Thats simply the folly of CGI, no way around it. But if you add character, and story, and plot, you end up with a helluva good reason to overlook this instinctual response in your brain and actually become emotionally attached to the characters, and further, to the movie.
Of course this is the film industry today, and why more and more movies with better CGI gather more public interest > more CGI movies > loop
There (should be) more to movies than just CGI (albeit amazing); more than just nostalgia throwbacks, and mainly, more story. Less formulaic a progression of events would help too. It seemed like Sam is always going to be saved at just the right time. Its good once in a while for suspense, but when hes falling, and I don't care about the outcome coz I know hes going to be saved, the movie has in that instance failed. I could go on citing examples
, but I hope I made my points with clarityOh, and if anyone comes at me with that "It's a kids' movie" comment, I will sock you!
Just because a movie is for the youth doesn't mean it doesn't need good storytelling.
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Posted by Mindmaster on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:33am CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:33am CDT
Fingers crossed gentlemen, let's hope that DOTM beats Harry Potter. I will not allow my beloved hobby get their rear-ends handed over by some nerdy kid that can make things go poof! Harry Potter fans, commence maiming...
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Posted by Autobot032 on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:38am CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:38am CDT
It's number 5 of all time....who cares if it beats Harry Potter? I mean, it's beaten HUGE box office winners such as Toy Story 3. It's a winning success. It doesn't have to be THE winner of all time.
Enjoy what we have, geez.
Enjoy what we have, geez.
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Posted by Mindmaster on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:41am CDT
Are you sure we ain't related?
But seriously though, I'll never understand the hate on DOTM. I thought it was one of the best Transformers movies I've seen, and the only thing I didn't like about it was Ironhide's death. Ironhide was just way to badass to die like that! Agreeing with Treetop Maximus, Geewuners can be elitists. Although I'm a tad bit Geewun myself, I rather welcome new brands, so long as the story line is nice and taught and the toys aren't god awful/aren't a waste of cash.
Posted by Mindmaster on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:41am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Suck on that, Hairy Pothead.
Are you sure we ain't related?
But seriously though, I'll never understand the hate on DOTM. I thought it was one of the best Transformers movies I've seen, and the only thing I didn't like about it was Ironhide's death. Ironhide was just way to badass to die like that! Agreeing with Treetop Maximus, Geewuners can be elitists. Although I'm a tad bit Geewun myself, I rather welcome new brands, so long as the story line is nice and taught and the toys aren't god awful/aren't a waste of cash.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:53am CDT
It should be in theaters through next weekend, it can scrounge up $50 mil worldwide in 12 days, can't it?
And I never saw Avatar. Never had the urge. Should I feel proud or stupid?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:53am CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote: With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?
It should be in theaters through next weekend, it can scrounge up $50 mil worldwide in 12 days, can't it?
And I never saw Avatar. Never had the urge. Should I feel proud or stupid?
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:57am CDT
NO! You must go see it again and again and AGAIN!!!
And I kinda wanted to see Skyline but never got to. Might watch it on DVD now...
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:57am CDT
Biddybot wrote: Once was enough for me at the theatre, but I WILL buy the dvd.
NO! You must go see it again and again and AGAIN!!!
And I kinda wanted to see Skyline but never got to. Might watch it on DVD now...
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:59am CDT
Proud... maybe. Its not a bad movie, but its nothing amazing as many make it out to be.
It was better than DOTM tho.
I'm gonna take the rap for that sooooo bad, haha.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 1:59am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote: With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?
It should be in theaters through next weekend, it can scrounge up $50 mil worldwide in 12 days, can't it?
And I never saw Avatar. Never had the urge. Should I feel proud or stupid?
Proud... maybe. Its not a bad movie, but its nothing amazing as many make it out to be.
It was better than DOTM tho.
I'm gonna take the rap for that sooooo bad, haha.
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Posted by Slashercon on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:21am CDT
Well I've seen the movie and to be honest, the more times I watch it, the more I like it. (Considering I've hated the movie because i thought it was simply overrated, which it still kinda is.)
Posted by Slashercon on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:21am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:LOST Cybertronian wrote: With only $47.8 million separating DOTM and Return Of The King, will Transformers have the staying power to move up on the chart before the end of its run?
It should be in theaters through next weekend, it can scrounge up $50 mil worldwide in 12 days, can't it?
And I never saw Avatar. Never had the urge. Should I feel proud or stupid?
Well I've seen the movie and to be honest, the more times I watch it, the more I like it. (Considering I've hated the movie because i thought it was simply overrated, which it still kinda is.)
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Posted by RhA on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:43am CDT
Posted by RhA on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:43am CDT
I'm impressed.
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Posted by Megatron Wolf on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:45am CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:45am CDT
Should we really be proud of this? DOTM was an ok movie but but not that good, there are movies below it that are 100 times better. The Dark Knight was a great movie and a great Batman story DOTM was an ok movie and a terrible transformer story. Well at least ROTF isnt in the top 10. Im also surprised to see that Toy Story 3 & Alice in Wonderland are where they were, i knew they did well but not that well.
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Posted by RhA on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:48am CDT
I don't think we should be proud of it. We had contributed in no way to this thing, other then really like TF's.
Bay and everyone who has worked on it should be proud.
Posted by RhA on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:48am CDT
Megatron Wolf wrote:Should we really be proud of this? DOTM was an ok movie but but not that good, there are movies below it that are 100 times better. The Dark Knight was a great movie and a great Batman story DOTM was an ok movie and a terrible transformer story. Well at least ROTF isnt in the top 10. Im also surprised to see that Toy Story 3 & Alice in Wonderland are where they were, i knew they did well but not that well.
I don't think we should be proud of it. We had contributed in no way to this thing, other then really like TF's.
Bay and everyone who has worked on it should be proud.
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Posted by Biddybot on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:56am CDT
Posted by Biddybot on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:56am CDT
Rodimus Prime: The only way I’d see DOTM in the theatre again is if I could magically fast-forward the movie to where Sentinel Prime shows up and likewise skip through most of the human stuff afterwards. I doubt the other movie-goers would appreciate that, heh!
If you can find Skyline for free at the library or as a corner store rental for $2 TOPS, it’s worth a look. The ending alone is worth $2. You might even get off on it if you’re fond of Euro-styled comics stories like ‘Den’. Ditto Avatar…worth a look, but only if it’s free (a library will have it). Best for several really well directed and edited action sequences involving menacing critters and one humungous tree, and a nice soundtrack. And the military stuff might please you if you’re a big fan of the Colonial Marines from the Aliens franchise…it’s pretty much a repeat. Story and character-wise, though, it’s strictly young adult level, no matter what rating they slapped on it, and I found it quite reminiscent of the Dinotopia franchise, has a lot of the same themes, is very predictable, has a childish take on things, etc… If you do ever try Avatar, try not to think too much as you watch it…I’m serious. It’ll fall apart if you try and put an adult spin on it and might even offend you (*koff*MightyWhitey*koff*).
MINDVVIPE: ‘…I’m urging people to demand more from their movie experience.’ … Y’know, I do feel for you and that request and even somewhat agree, I really do. But here’s the reality, based on my life’s experiences:
MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
MOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
MOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY. They don’t go to be inspired. They don’t go to be educated.
When it comes to being entertained, MANY PEOPLE are like dogs that are heavily into retrieving games. You know the sort of dogs I mean. They’re the ones that will fetch for you over and over and OVER again and they never lose their enthusiasm for it or get bored with the game even though they’re fetching the exact same thing every frickin’ time.
Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
If you can find Skyline for free at the library or as a corner store rental for $2 TOPS, it’s worth a look. The ending alone is worth $2. You might even get off on it if you’re fond of Euro-styled comics stories like ‘Den’. Ditto Avatar…worth a look, but only if it’s free (a library will have it). Best for several really well directed and edited action sequences involving menacing critters and one humungous tree, and a nice soundtrack. And the military stuff might please you if you’re a big fan of the Colonial Marines from the Aliens franchise…it’s pretty much a repeat. Story and character-wise, though, it’s strictly young adult level, no matter what rating they slapped on it, and I found it quite reminiscent of the Dinotopia franchise, has a lot of the same themes, is very predictable, has a childish take on things, etc… If you do ever try Avatar, try not to think too much as you watch it…I’m serious. It’ll fall apart if you try and put an adult spin on it and might even offend you (*koff*MightyWhitey*koff*).
MINDVVIPE: ‘…I’m urging people to demand more from their movie experience.’ … Y’know, I do feel for you and that request and even somewhat agree, I really do. But here’s the reality, based on my life’s experiences:
MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
MOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
MOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY. They don’t go to be inspired. They don’t go to be educated.
When it comes to being entertained, MANY PEOPLE are like dogs that are heavily into retrieving games. You know the sort of dogs I mean. They’re the ones that will fetch for you over and over and OVER again and they never lose their enthusiasm for it or get bored with the game even though they’re fetching the exact same thing every frickin’ time.
Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
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Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:02am CDT
Thanks
Thanks
Yeah, damn me for wanting an escape from reality for a few hours, damn me for wanting to kick back and relax and be entertained.
Yeah, damn me for not being inspired by a fictional character in a movie. I'll give up being inspired by people who achieve things in the real world, people who work tirelessly in charities, scientists who work to cure diseases, carers who look after the sick and the frail. Damn me!
Yeah, damn me for going to school for so many years and not learning everything I could from movies!
Did I do good? Can I have a Scooby Snack now?
Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:02am CDT
Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
Thanks
MOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
Thanks
MOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY.
Yeah, damn me for wanting an escape from reality for a few hours, damn me for wanting to kick back and relax and be entertained.
They don’t go to be inspired.
Yeah, damn me for not being inspired by a fictional character in a movie. I'll give up being inspired by people who achieve things in the real world, people who work tirelessly in charities, scientists who work to cure diseases, carers who look after the sick and the frail. Damn me!
They don’t go to be educated.
Yeah, damn me for going to school for so many years and not learning everything I could from movies!
Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
Did I do good? Can I have a Scooby Snack now?
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:13am CDT
I think you're misunderstanding what he says, Burn. Don't take it so personally, as I can understand why a TF fan would like the movie, but hes speaking about the average random person who doesn't know anything about TFs, or even sci fi for that matter. I agree with him, and if you apply every one of those conditions to a TF movie, Hell, it would have ruled. Worked for the Dark Knight, no?
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:13am CDT
Burn wrote:Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
ThanksMOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
ThanksMOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY.
Yeah, damn me for wanting an escape from reality for a few hours, damn me for wanting to kick back and relax and be entertained.They don’t go to be inspired.
Yeah, damn me for not being inspired by a fictional character in a movie. I'll give up being inspired by people who achieve things in the real world, people who work tirelessly in charities, scientists who work to cure diseases, carers who look after the sick and the frail. Damn me!They don’t go to be educated.
Yeah, damn me for going to school for so many years and not learning everything I could from movies!Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
Did I do good? Can I have a Scooby Snack now?
I think you're misunderstanding what he says, Burn. Don't take it so personally, as I can understand why a TF fan would like the movie, but hes speaking about the average random person who doesn't know anything about TFs, or even sci fi for that matter. I agree with him, and if you apply every one of those conditions to a TF movie, Hell, it would have ruled. Worked for the Dark Knight, no?
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Posted by RogueDeathangel on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:09am CDT
Posted by RogueDeathangel on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:09am CDT
Every time a movie piece gets FP'd we get the same arguments.
Every. Single. Time.
I don't even know what makes me even want to read the comments on these threads anymore. Probably morbid curiosity.
I just don't get the vitriol. Even if you hate the movie, surely it's a good thing that HasTakTom is making money? The cash flow that the films (and the swarms f 'bees on the shelves) generate for them allows them to continue making more risky collector-focused items like the CHUG toys or the masterpiece line (for all the GWunners out there.)
Just sayin', Hasbro is making money. This is a good thing.
Every. Single. Time.
I don't even know what makes me even want to read the comments on these threads anymore. Probably morbid curiosity.
I just don't get the vitriol. Even if you hate the movie, surely it's a good thing that HasTakTom is making money? The cash flow that the films (and the swarms f 'bees on the shelves) generate for them allows them to continue making more risky collector-focused items like the CHUG toys or the masterpiece line (for all the GWunners out there.)
Just sayin', Hasbro is making money. This is a good thing.
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Posted by Autobot032 on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:40am CDT
Incredibly crass and tasteless. Strike one.
Ah, one of those, I see. I did that for the first film, wouldn't do it for ROTF or DOTM.
Skyline was awful. Avatar was awful (minus the visuals.) I wouldn't recommend either one.
Oh, they don't do they? Wow. Plenty of people all over the world would love to have a nice chat with you. Don't be surprised if it involves brass knuckles and a trip to the ICU. Don't insult the intelligence of others, and get that chip off your shoulder.
Strike two.
Wow. You're really going out of your way to be rude and offensive, aren't ya? Want a medal or something?
Strike three. You're already out, in my book, but we'll go ahead and continue.
Absolutely incorrect. People go for many reasons, some for escapist entertainment, I don't deny that. However, these movies might inspire a teenager or a child to become a filmmaker one day. Or become a star because their favorite heroes were in a movie once.
Your sense of wonder might have gone down the drain, but not everyone else's. It really sickens me when you speak for others.
Strike four.
...dogs? You are comparing us to dogs? You are unbelievably trolltastic. It's amazing that your post has stood this long. It's so inflammatory, you can see the smoke from space!
Enough said? No. You've said more than enough. And I will draw my own conclusion, thank you. I conclude you shall go on my ignore list. Cuz...damn. *shakes head*
Posted by Autobot032 on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:40am CDT
Biddybot wrote:Oh, and good for DOTM for breaking its billion cherry--yay!
Incredibly crass and tasteless. Strike one.
Biddybot wrote:Rodimus Prime: The only way I’d see DOTM in the theatre again is if I could magically fast-forward the movie to where Sentinel Prime shows up and likewise skip through most of the human stuff afterwards. I doubt the other movie-goers would appreciate that, heh!
Ah, one of those, I see. I did that for the first film, wouldn't do it for ROTF or DOTM.
.Biddybot wrote:If you can find Skyline for free at the library or as a corner store rental for $2 TOPS, it’s worth a look. The ending alone is worth $2. You might even get off on it if you’re fond of Euro-styled comics stories like ‘Den’. Ditto Avatar…worth a look, but only if it’s free (a library will have it). Best for several really well directed and edited action sequences involving menacing critters and one humungous tree, and a nice soundtrack. And the military stuff might please you if you’re a big fan of the Colonial Marines from the Aliens franchise…it’s pretty much a repeat. Story and character-wise, though, it’s strictly young adult level, no matter what rating they slapped on it, and I found it quite reminiscent of the Dinotopia franchise, has a lot of the same themes, is very predictable, has a childish take on things, etc… If you do ever try Avatar, try not to think too much as you watch it…I’m serious. It’ll fall apart if you try and put an adult spin on it and might even offend you (*koff*MightyWhitey*koff*)
Skyline was awful. Avatar was awful (minus the visuals.) I wouldn't recommend either one.
Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
Oh, they don't do they? Wow. Plenty of people all over the world would love to have a nice chat with you. Don't be surprised if it involves brass knuckles and a trip to the ICU. Don't insult the intelligence of others, and get that chip off your shoulder.
Strike two.
Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
Wow. You're really going out of your way to be rude and offensive, aren't ya? Want a medal or something?
Strike three. You're already out, in my book, but we'll go ahead and continue.
Biddybot wrote:MOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY. They don’t go to be inspired. They don’t go to be educated.
Absolutely incorrect. People go for many reasons, some for escapist entertainment, I don't deny that. However, these movies might inspire a teenager or a child to become a filmmaker one day. Or become a star because their favorite heroes were in a movie once.
Your sense of wonder might have gone down the drain, but not everyone else's. It really sickens me when you speak for others.
Strike four.
Biddybot wrote:When it comes to being entertained, MANY PEOPLE are like dogs that are heavily into retrieving games. You know the sort of dogs I mean. They’re the ones that will fetch for you over and over and OVER again and they never lose their enthusiasm for it or get bored with the game even though they’re fetching the exact same thing every frickin’ time.
Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
...dogs? You are comparing us to dogs? You are unbelievably trolltastic. It's amazing that your post has stood this long. It's so inflammatory, you can see the smoke from space!
Enough said? No. You've said more than enough. And I will draw my own conclusion, thank you. I conclude you shall go on my ignore list. Cuz...damn. *shakes head*
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Posted by fenrir72 on August 16th, 2011 @ 6:58am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 16th, 2011 @ 6:58am CDT
The Movie series is far from perfect. Imho, only the first would be worth the time watching. Never really liked it, BUT as a whole, it gave TF a mainstream appeal. Mainstream appeal whose repercussions for us, the original fans is more than just bright.
So long as Hasbro doesn't milk the franchise too much to the point of shooting itself in the foot.
Now, despite the sagging world economy, there may be hope for more product releases (RTS Windcharger not withstanding)if not, re-issues of sure fire hits of figures from all the generation spectrum (though I'd leave the ball to Takara in that regard).
So long as Hasbro doesn't milk the franchise too much to the point of shooting itself in the foot.
Now, despite the sagging world economy, there may be hope for more product releases (RTS Windcharger not withstanding)if not, re-issues of sure fire hits of figures from all the generation spectrum (though I'd leave the ball to Takara in that regard).
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 16th, 2011 @ 8:00am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 16th, 2011 @ 8:00am CDT
Whoa, everybody, relax a bit. Not necessary to take comments so seriously. Biddybot did say
Who knows, maybe she's around stupid people a lot...
I do that with RotF. I watch the beginning and the Shanghai sequence, skip to the forest fight, and then to the end. The rest is garbage, saw it enough times to remember it. However, with DotM the only thing I find unacceptable is the mistreatment of Shockwave and Megatron. Other than that, DotM is a damn good movie.
Skyline is on instant play on netflix, I'll probably watch it on that. And nothing I've read here makes me want to see Avatar any faster, so pass.
based on my life experiences
Who knows, maybe she's around stupid people a lot...
Biddybot wrote:Rodimus Prime: The only way I’d see DOTM in the theatre again is if I could magically fast-forward the movie to where Sentinel Prime shows up and likewise skip through most of the human stuff afterwards. I doubt the other movie-goers would appreciate that, heh!
I do that with RotF. I watch the beginning and the Shanghai sequence, skip to the forest fight, and then to the end. The rest is garbage, saw it enough times to remember it. However, with DotM the only thing I find unacceptable is the mistreatment of Shockwave and Megatron. Other than that, DotM is a damn good movie.
If you can find Skyline for free at the library or as a corner store rental for $2 TOPS, it’s worth a look. The ending alone is worth $2. You might even get off on it if you’re fond of Euro-styled comics stories like ‘Den’. Ditto Avatar…worth a look, but only if it’s free (a library will have it). Best for several really well directed and edited action sequences involving menacing critters and one humungous tree, and a nice soundtrack. And the military stuff might please you if you’re a big fan of the Colonial Marines from the Aliens franchise…it’s pretty much a repeat. Story and character-wise, though, it’s strictly young adult level, no matter what rating they slapped on it, and I found it quite reminiscent of the Dinotopia franchise, has a lot of the same themes, is very predictable, has a childish take on things, etc… If you do ever try Avatar, try not to think too much as you watch it…I’m serious. It’ll fall apart if you try and put an adult spin on it and might even offend you (*koff*MightyWhitey*koff*).
Skyline is on instant play on netflix, I'll probably watch it on that. And nothing I've read here makes me want to see Avatar any faster, so pass.
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Posted by prowl123 on August 16th, 2011 @ 8:03am CDT
That movie doesn't deserve to exist.
Posted by prowl123 on August 16th, 2011 @ 8:03am CDT
Capt.Failure wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:Avatar at #1? My faith in humanity is practically non-existent at this point.
Skyline earned enough money to warrent a sequel, so I lost my faith in humanity way earlier.
That movie doesn't deserve to exist.
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Posted by ROTFarcee on August 16th, 2011 @ 11:27am CDT
WOW. who pissed in your coffee? Seriously, some of the posts on here are so... pointless and rude.
That being said, i hope DOTM beats the crap out of Hp7! i havn't seen hp7, but i read the book so what's the point. I in fact LOVED DOTM, i think it had a great storyline, and you can connect all three movie storylines together and it makes sense.
Posted by ROTFarcee on August 16th, 2011 @ 11:27am CDT
Biddybot wrote:Rodimus Prime:
MINDVVIPE: ‘…I’m urging people to demand more from their movie experience.’ … Y’know, I do feel for you and that request and even somewhat agree, I really do. But here’s the reality, based on my life’s experiences:
MOST PEOPLE don’t think.
MOST PEOPLE have no imaginations.
MOST PEOPLE go to movies to be entertained ONLY. They don’t go to be inspired. They don’t go to be educated.
When it comes to being entertained, MANY PEOPLE are like dogs that are heavily into retrieving games. You know the sort of dogs I mean. They’re the ones that will fetch for you over and over and OVER again and they never lose their enthusiasm for it or get bored with the game even though they’re fetching the exact same thing every frickin’ time.
Enough said. Draw your own conclusions.
WOW. who pissed in your coffee? Seriously, some of the posts on here are so... pointless and rude.
That being said, i hope DOTM beats the crap out of Hp7! i havn't seen hp7, but i read the book so what's the point. I in fact LOVED DOTM, i think it had a great storyline, and you can connect all three movie storylines together and it makes sense.
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:43pm CDT
I'll give you that. Its a good thing that Hasbro is getting attention and in turn making more money to make cool figures. Though, one can make the arguement that they don't necessarily need the attention to sell figures since the moment they make figures like Generations Jazz and RTS Lugnut, those figures are virtually impossible to find in some places since Fans of G1, or Animated, have already swooped in and bought them ALL up. Yet, you can go to the store and find many DOTM figures lying around that are shelf warmers. Please reply, anyone, as I'd love to keep this discussion going, and find out just exactly how much of a difference the movies are making in the positive, and the negative.
(This is a forum, after all, so discussion on such a thing should be encouraged, but only in a civil dialogue
)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 2:43pm CDT
RogueDeathangel wrote:Every time a movie piece gets FP'd we get the same arguments.
Every. Single. Time.
I don't even know what makes me even want to read the comments on these threads anymore. Probably morbid curiosity.
I just don't get the vitriol. Even if you hate the movie, surely it's a good thing that HasTakTom is making money? The cash flow that the films (and the swarms f 'bees on the shelves) generate for them allows them to continue making more risky collector-focused items like the CHUG toys or the masterpiece line (for all the GWunners out there.)
Just sayin', Hasbro is making money. This is a good thing.
I'll give you that. Its a good thing that Hasbro is getting attention and in turn making more money to make cool figures. Though, one can make the arguement that they don't necessarily need the attention to sell figures since the moment they make figures like Generations Jazz and RTS Lugnut, those figures are virtually impossible to find in some places since Fans of G1, or Animated, have already swooped in and bought them ALL up. Yet, you can go to the store and find many DOTM figures lying around that are shelf warmers. Please reply, anyone, as I'd love to keep this discussion going, and find out just exactly how much of a difference the movies are making in the positive, and the negative.
(This is a forum, after all, so discussion on such a thing should be encouraged, but only in a civil dialogue
)
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Posted by ROTFarcee on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:06pm CDT
^this. i thought bullying was what they did on tfw2005
^^and also this. I mostly collect the movie lines, so i dont often look at the generations or classics, but i can tell you that at my walmart, there are rarely more than 4-5 figures out. and most are usually cliffjumper. then, theres five endcaps full of dotm. I think that this is good. the money from dotm line is used to design and sell the classics and generations lines.
Posted by ROTFarcee on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:06pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:RogueDeathangel wrote:Every time a movie piece gets FP'd we get the same arguments.
Every. Single. Time.
Just sayin', Hasbro is making money. This is a good thing.
(This is a forum, after all, so discussion on such a thing should be encouraged, but only in a civil dialogue
^this. i thought bullying was what they did on tfw2005
^^and also this. I mostly collect the movie lines, so i dont often look at the generations or classics, but i can tell you that at my walmart, there are rarely more than 4-5 figures out. and most are usually cliffjumper. then, theres five endcaps full of dotm. I think that this is good. the money from dotm line is used to design and sell the classics and generations lines.
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Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:15pm CDT
Skyline has approximately one good scene in it's entire hour and fourty minute runtime, and that's when the stealth bombers with predator drone support dogfight with the aliens in a desperate attempt to hit the mothership with a nuke. It's the only good scene because that plucky stealth bomber pilot was the ONLY CHARACTER IN THE WHOLE DAMN FILM that's likeable, and who you want to cheer for. Says alot when the main cast is crappy enough that a character who's face you don't even see who's only in the film for four minutes is the best character.
You see people complaining about the film's success due to the misguided and childish belief that somehow this success "poisons" the Transformers franchise. Usually it's change or extra-fanbase popularity these people fear, when they don't stop to realize these are the things that keep a beloved series long running. Namely fresh ideas, new fans, and income for the creators. We saw what stagnation can do before Beast Wars and during the Unicron Trilogy, and it almost ended Transformers each time.
Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:15pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Skyline is on instant play on netflix, I'll probably watch it on that. And nothing I've read here makes me want to see Avatar any faster, so pass.
Skyline has approximately one good scene in it's entire hour and fourty minute runtime, and that's when the stealth bombers with predator drone support dogfight with the aliens in a desperate attempt to hit the mothership with a nuke. It's the only good scene because that plucky stealth bomber pilot was the ONLY CHARACTER IN THE WHOLE DAMN FILM that's likeable, and who you want to cheer for. Says alot when the main cast is crappy enough that a character who's face you don't even see who's only in the film for four minutes is the best character.
RogueDeathangel wrote:Every time a movie piece gets FP'd we get the same arguments.
Every. Single. Time.
Just sayin', Hasbro is making money. This is a good thing.
You see people complaining about the film's success due to the misguided and childish belief that somehow this success "poisons" the Transformers franchise. Usually it's change or extra-fanbase popularity these people fear, when they don't stop to realize these are the things that keep a beloved series long running. Namely fresh ideas, new fans, and income for the creators. We saw what stagnation can do before Beast Wars and during the Unicron Trilogy, and it almost ended Transformers each time.
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:41pm CDT
To address that point in my own opinion; The popularity of the movies, in my eyes, is a bad things only because it gives people the wrong impression of what Transformers is. Money... and a money making franchise. OKAY. It is, being a franchise, but the movies ONLY show that, and not the characters in the robots, and the crazy sci fi lore that is the Transformers. For example, the movie approaches the subject matter like this. The movie is called "The Transformers". The protagonist is: "A human boy ascending to manhood". That bothers me hehe. But it is the movie marketing that takes this approach to ensure people even bother to watch it in the first place. Seems like the low road, even for a target audience composed of children. Kids will tell you they like robots more than whiney boys
To make my point more clear, the new movies seem like the recent Star Wars Trilogy, and the old Transformers animated movie is the original Star Wars trilogy.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 3:41pm CDT
Capt.Failure wrote:You see people complaining about the film's success due to the misguided and childish belief that somehow this success "poisons" the Transformers franchise. Usually it's change or extra-fanbase popularity these people fear, when they don't stop to realize these are the things that keep a beloved series long running. Namely fresh ideas, new fans, and income for the creators. We saw what stagnation can do before Beast Wars and during the Unicron Trilogy, and it almost ended Transformers each time.
To address that point in my own opinion; The popularity of the movies, in my eyes, is a bad things only because it gives people the wrong impression of what Transformers is. Money... and a money making franchise. OKAY. It is, being a franchise, but the movies ONLY show that, and not the characters in the robots, and the crazy sci fi lore that is the Transformers. For example, the movie approaches the subject matter like this. The movie is called "The Transformers". The protagonist is: "A human boy ascending to manhood". That bothers me hehe. But it is the movie marketing that takes this approach to ensure people even bother to watch it in the first place. Seems like the low road, even for a target audience composed of children. Kids will tell you they like robots more than whiney boys
To make my point more clear, the new movies seem like the recent Star Wars Trilogy, and the old Transformers animated movie is the original Star Wars trilogy.
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Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:21pm CDT
Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:21pm CDT
I've spoken to non-TF fans who have gone and seen all three movies.
You know what they said about DOTM? They cried or were shocked when Ironhide died. They got worried when it looked like Bumblebee was going to be executed.
They spoke about the different characters ... so obviously, to a non-TF movie going fan (aka the ones who helped push DOTM over a billion), there was enough character development.
Maybe instead of being a over-the-top loyal fanboy, people should take a step back and look at it from a non-fan perspective. Maybe then they'll see the movies in a different light.
Or just go to your nearest art house theatre and be "educated and elightened" that way. Whatever works for those who are clearly better than me.
You know what they said about DOTM? They cried or were shocked when Ironhide died. They got worried when it looked like Bumblebee was going to be executed.
They spoke about the different characters ... so obviously, to a non-TF movie going fan (aka the ones who helped push DOTM over a billion), there was enough character development.
Maybe instead of being a over-the-top loyal fanboy, people should take a step back and look at it from a non-fan perspective. Maybe then they'll see the movies in a different light.
Or just go to your nearest art house theatre and be "educated and elightened" that way. Whatever works for those who are clearly better than me.
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:30pm CDT
Haha, okay okay, Burn, don't need to get so offended. I understand what your saying, as my bro and sis pretty much felt the exact same way you said some non TF fans felt. They're not uneducated people either. And maybe you are right. Maybe I am overly loyal to the Transformers from their heyday. But I can tell you that I will NEVER be able to take a step back, nor do I want to, from the TF fan I am, and the Sci fi fan that I am, because I have my standards, and others have theirs. To me, the movies will always be more about a money grab than the lore itself. I don't think Spielberg thought to himself, "I got a GREAT Transformers story in mind" but rather "I got a GREAT way to make money with an old franchise".
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:30pm CDT
Burn wrote:I've spoken to non-TF fans who have gone and seen all three movies.
You know what they said about DOTM? They cried or were shocked when Ironhide died. They got worried when it looked like Bumblebee was going to be executed.
They spoke about the different characters ... so obviously, to a non-TF movie going fan (aka the ones who helped push DOTM over a billion), there was enough character development.
Maybe instead of being a over-the-top loyal fanboy, people should take a step back and look at it from a non-fan perspective. Maybe then they'll see the movies in a different light.
Or just go to your nearest art house theatre and be "educated and elightened" that way. Whatever works for those who are clearly better than me.
Haha, okay okay, Burn, don't need to get so offended. I understand what your saying, as my bro and sis pretty much felt the exact same way you said some non TF fans felt. They're not uneducated people either. And maybe you are right. Maybe I am overly loyal to the Transformers from their heyday. But I can tell you that I will NEVER be able to take a step back, nor do I want to, from the TF fan I am, and the Sci fi fan that I am, because I have my standards, and others have theirs. To me, the movies will always be more about a money grab than the lore itself. I don't think Spielberg thought to himself, "I got a GREAT Transformers story in mind" but rather "I got a GREAT way to make money with an old franchise".
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:38pm CDT
May I ask what you thought was so bad about Avatar, and what about DOTM made it better than Avatar? If that is what you think. Feel free to turn that question back on me.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:38pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Skyline was awful. Avatar was awful (minus the visuals.) I wouldn't recommend either one.
May I ask what you thought was so bad about Avatar, and what about DOTM made it better than Avatar? If that is what you think. Feel free to turn that question back on me.
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Posted by starscreamreturns on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:41pm CDT
Posted by starscreamreturns on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:41pm CDT
That's good
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Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:48pm CDT
Well duh.
Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:48pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:To me, the movies will always be more about a money grab than the lore itself.
Well duh.
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Posted by Stormrider on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:53pm CDT
Posted by Stormrider on August 16th, 2011 @ 4:53pm CDT
It's sad when Alice in Wonderland ranks higher than Dark Knight.
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:01pm CDT
Since this isn't blatantly apparent in any of the other Transformers fictions I've read/seen/played (WFC), I felt it needed emphasis. Glad to see you were already aware of it's exception.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:01pm CDT
Burn wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:To me, the movies will always be more about a money grab than the lore itself.
Well duh.
Since this isn't blatantly apparent in any of the other Transformers fictions I've read/seen/played (WFC), I felt it needed emphasis. Glad to see you were already aware of it's exception.
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Posted by RogueDeathangel on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:27pm CDT
Posted by RogueDeathangel on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:27pm CDT
See, the last page and a half of this thread is what the movie threads should be more like. Again, just sayin'.
I like the movies for trying something different with the franchise. I mean, it's the first time in... the entire history of the franchise that anyone's attempted to make a pure spectacle out of our beloved giant robots. Never before have we seen "realistic" transformers involved in such action sequences. It reminds me somewhat of films like The Transporter or Crank, where the entire goal of the film is the action sequences. It's a refreshing take on the media and, even just from a technical standpoint, one heck of an achievement.
Due to the pre-existing business model that Transformers has stuck to pretty dang rigidly since it's debut the accompanying fiction has always been about selling toys with the success of the media being a secondary (most likely tertiary) concern at best. Previously the media never really had to succeed on it's own (in a monetary fashion) because the aim was to recoup that money through toy sales, but with the recent movies they absolutely HAD to make them financially viable because, well, Transformers toys were never going to balance out a $250 million movie budget (let alone turn a profit!)
And, in that sense, they have absolutely succeeded. I mean, if there were no accompanying toyline Paramount would absolutely make more movies regardless. This film made a billion dollars. They'd be stupid not to.
Now, as for whether the movie line of toys is good for Hasbro or not, well, I can see your point. It does seem like CHUG toys sell better than movie toys but, by all reports that I've heard, this is because stores order less CHUG toys and more movie toys. Not because the stores have any bias, to them all of the toys are just transformers toys (I sincerely doubt most store/section managers actually pay attention to the difference in aesthetic) but because the toys sell more when a movie comes out and they sell less when there is not a new movie out. I'm sure Hasbro (and when I say Hasbro I mean HasTakTom) could sneak a few CHUG-styled toys into the movie line (ala RTS and the Marvel 3.5inch movie figures, which often have comic-styled figures included too) but I think they prefer keeping a more unified aesthetic to their various lines. So, while it may seem that Movie toys linger on shelves they may in fact be shifting at a higher rate than the CHUG toys, but simply get restocked faster as they have plenty of them in the stock room.
Wow. I wrote a lot. And apparently I really love italics.
I like the movies for trying something different with the franchise. I mean, it's the first time in... the entire history of the franchise that anyone's attempted to make a pure spectacle out of our beloved giant robots. Never before have we seen "realistic" transformers involved in such action sequences. It reminds me somewhat of films like The Transporter or Crank, where the entire goal of the film is the action sequences. It's a refreshing take on the media and, even just from a technical standpoint, one heck of an achievement.
Due to the pre-existing business model that Transformers has stuck to pretty dang rigidly since it's debut the accompanying fiction has always been about selling toys with the success of the media being a secondary (most likely tertiary) concern at best. Previously the media never really had to succeed on it's own (in a monetary fashion) because the aim was to recoup that money through toy sales, but with the recent movies they absolutely HAD to make them financially viable because, well, Transformers toys were never going to balance out a $250 million movie budget (let alone turn a profit!)
And, in that sense, they have absolutely succeeded. I mean, if there were no accompanying toyline Paramount would absolutely make more movies regardless. This film made a billion dollars. They'd be stupid not to.
Now, as for whether the movie line of toys is good for Hasbro or not, well, I can see your point. It does seem like CHUG toys sell better than movie toys but, by all reports that I've heard, this is because stores order less CHUG toys and more movie toys. Not because the stores have any bias, to them all of the toys are just transformers toys (I sincerely doubt most store/section managers actually pay attention to the difference in aesthetic) but because the toys sell more when a movie comes out and they sell less when there is not a new movie out. I'm sure Hasbro (and when I say Hasbro I mean HasTakTom) could sneak a few CHUG-styled toys into the movie line (ala RTS and the Marvel 3.5inch movie figures, which often have comic-styled figures included too) but I think they prefer keeping a more unified aesthetic to their various lines. So, while it may seem that Movie toys linger on shelves they may in fact be shifting at a higher rate than the CHUG toys, but simply get restocked faster as they have plenty of them in the stock room.
Wow. I wrote a lot. And apparently I really love italics.
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:48pm CDT
Good points, that makes a lot of sense. Hasbro probably makes even less of the CHUG figures than the movie figures due to this. Bah!
I think this also brings up the problem that when a movie franchise becomes too prosperous, it leads them to financial freedom from the core elements. The movie was bound to do so well on the visuals alone, all spaced up by scenes of human interaction that please the average movie goer, and distance itself from the Transformers themselves. Without the need to sell the toys to sustain the movie, it didn't need to create characters that were deep or unique, or have a lot of screen time(likewise for the story). Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are obviously the exception, but they also make my point as nothing daring was done with them in the movies. Optimus was the saviour of mankind as always, and bumblebee was herbie.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 5:48pm CDT
RogueDeathangel wrote:See, the last page and a half of this thread is what the movie threads should be more like. Again, just sayin'.
I like the movies for trying something different with the franchise. I mean, it's the first time in... the entire history of the franchise that anyone's attempted to make a pure spectacle out of our beloved giant robots. Never before have we seen "realistic" transformers involved in such action sequences. It reminds me somewhat of films like The Transporter or Crank, where the entire goal of the film is the action sequences. It's a refreshing take on the media and, even just from a technical standpoint, one heck of an achievement.
Due to the pre-existing business model that Transformers has stuck to pretty dang rigidly since it's debut the accompanying fiction has always been about selling toys with the success of the media being a secondary (most likely tertiary) concern at best. Previously the media never really had to succeed on it's own (in a monetary fashion) because the aim was to recoup that money through toy sales, but with the recent movies they absolutely HAD to make them financially viable because, well, Transformers toys were never going to balance out a $250 million movie budget (let alone turn a profit!)
And, in that sense, they have absolutely succeeded. I mean, if there were no accompanying toyline Paramount would absolutely make more movies regardless. This film made a billion dollars. They'd be stupid not to.
Now, as for whether the movie line of toys is good for Hasbro or not, well, I can see your point. It does seem like CHUG toys sell better than movie toys but, by all reports that I've heard, this is because stores order less CHUG toys and more movie toys. Not because the stores have any bias, to them all of the toys are just transformers toys (I sincerely doubt most store/section managers actually pay attention to the difference in aesthetic) but because the toys sell more when a movie comes out and they sell less when there is not a new movie out. I'm sure Hasbro (and when I say Hasbro I mean HasTakTom) could sneak a few CHUG-styled toys into the movie line (ala RTS and the Marvel 3.5inch movie figures, which often have comic-styled figures included too) but I think they prefer keeping a more unified aesthetic to their various lines. So, while it may seem that Movie toys linger on shelves they may in fact be shifting at a higher rate than the CHUG toys, but simply get restocked faster as they have plenty of them in the stock room.
Wow. I wrote a lot. And apparently I really love italics.
Good points, that makes a lot of sense. Hasbro probably makes even less of the CHUG figures than the movie figures due to this. Bah!
I think this also brings up the problem that when a movie franchise becomes too prosperous, it leads them to financial freedom from the core elements. The movie was bound to do so well on the visuals alone, all spaced up by scenes of human interaction that please the average movie goer, and distance itself from the Transformers themselves. Without the need to sell the toys to sustain the movie, it didn't need to create characters that were deep or unique, or have a lot of screen time(likewise for the story). Optimus Prime and Bumblebee are obviously the exception, but they also make my point as nothing daring was done with them in the movies. Optimus was the saviour of mankind as always, and bumblebee was herbie.
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Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 6:14pm CDT
I would ask you first why it's a bad thing that Transformers as a series makes money. Should Hasbro make free figures and movies out of the goodness of their heart? You speak like G1 wasn't a 30 minute toy commercial...which it was.
To answer your question: Avatar was a pretty shameless special effects tech demo wrapped around a story meant to evoke emotion through white guilt over Native Americans and recent events in the Middle East. I find it rather tasteless and pointless, to be honest. The Transformers film series, by contrast, proved to be entertaining despite it's faults. And that's all I ask for.
Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 6:14pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Skyline was awful. Avatar was awful (minus the visuals.) I wouldn't recommend either one.
May I ask what you thought was so bad about Avatar, and what about DOTM made it better than Avatar? If that is what you think. Feel free to turn that question back on me.
I would ask you first why it's a bad thing that Transformers as a series makes money. Should Hasbro make free figures and movies out of the goodness of their heart? You speak like G1 wasn't a 30 minute toy commercial...which it was.
To answer your question: Avatar was a pretty shameless special effects tech demo wrapped around a story meant to evoke emotion through white guilt over Native Americans and recent events in the Middle East. I find it rather tasteless and pointless, to be honest. The Transformers film series, by contrast, proved to be entertaining despite it's faults. And that's all I ask for.
Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277465)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 6:32pm CDT
I never said that it was a bad thing for Hasbro to make money. I just said that it's a bad thing when the movie is nothing more than being about how much money they can make from showing off the most fancy visuals, and leaving out story (which should be in every movie, or it shouldn't be made into a movie). Take Crank for example: Its a pure action movie, and yet it has a story. The audience is wondering if he will survive at the end, and get vengeance. Not much, but enough to have you attached to the character.
As for Avatar, it's pretty much a live-action version of ferngully. I don't see any specific connection to natives or the middle east, but rather the overall greed of mankind. The problems of over industrialization at the expense of the environment is everywhere, and there are rulers who aren't white in many countries who condone this (so... no racial discrimination really). They just picked the most obvious "powerhead" in the world, which would be an American. You got to see the protagonist go from being the puppet of the bad guys to being the ultimate good guy. He was also disabled, but was able to use his mind to accomplish all these things, which could inspire the handicapped viewers. At the end, you don't even see the bad guys all being killed. They are simply sent away to forever leave that planet. I have barely scratched the surface, and already Avatar has more to offer than DOTM. And I don't even like avatar aaall that much.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 6:32pm CDT
Capt.Failure wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Skyline was awful. Avatar was awful (minus the visuals.) I wouldn't recommend either one.
May I ask what you thought was so bad about Avatar, and what about DOTM made it better than Avatar? If that is what you think. Feel free to turn that question back on me.
I would ask you first why it's a bad thing that Transformers as a series makes money. Should Hasbro make free figures and movies out of the goodness of their heart? You speak like G1 wasn't a 30 minute toy commercial...which it was.
To answer your question: Avatar was a pretty shameless special effects tech demo wrapped around a story meant to evoke emotion through white guilt over Native Americans and recent events in the Middle East. I find it rather tasteless and pointless, to be honest. The Transformers film series, by contrast, proved to be entertaining despite it's faults. And that's all I ask for.
I never said that it was a bad thing for Hasbro to make money. I just said that it's a bad thing when the movie is nothing more than being about how much money they can make from showing off the most fancy visuals, and leaving out story (which should be in every movie, or it shouldn't be made into a movie). Take Crank for example: Its a pure action movie, and yet it has a story. The audience is wondering if he will survive at the end, and get vengeance. Not much, but enough to have you attached to the character.
As for Avatar, it's pretty much a live-action version of ferngully. I don't see any specific connection to natives or the middle east, but rather the overall greed of mankind. The problems of over industrialization at the expense of the environment is everywhere, and there are rulers who aren't white in many countries who condone this (so... no racial discrimination really). They just picked the most obvious "powerhead" in the world, which would be an American. You got to see the protagonist go from being the puppet of the bad guys to being the ultimate good guy. He was also disabled, but was able to use his mind to accomplish all these things, which could inspire the handicapped viewers. At the end, you don't even see the bad guys all being killed. They are simply sent away to forever leave that planet. I have barely scratched the surface, and already Avatar has more to offer than DOTM. And I don't even like avatar aaall that much.
Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277476)
Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 6:54pm CDT
But it's not only about making money, and it did have a story. Just because you choose not to see that doesn't mean it didn't.
Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 6:54pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote:I never said that it was a bad thing for Hasbro to make money. I just said that it's a bad thing when the movie is nothing more than being about how much money they can make from showing off the most fancy visuals, and leaving out story (which should be in every movie, or it shouldn't be made into a movie). Take Crank for example: Its a pure action movie, and yet it has a story. The audience is wondering if he will survive at the end, and get vengeance. Not much, but enough to have you attached to the character.
But it's not only about making money, and it did have a story. Just because you choose not to see that doesn't mean it didn't.
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Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 7:00pm CDT
It did have a story, but it was minimal at best. And the story seemed to be more about Sam than the Transformers. I won't push the matter coz we all have different opinions. Those are just mine.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 7:00pm CDT
Capt.Failure wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:I never said that it was a bad thing for Hasbro to make money. I just said that it's a bad thing when the movie is nothing more than being about how much money they can make from showing off the most fancy visuals, and leaving out story (which should be in every movie, or it shouldn't be made into a movie). Take Crank for example: Its a pure action movie, and yet it has a story. The audience is wondering if he will survive at the end, and get vengeance. Not much, but enough to have you attached to the character.
But it's not only about making money, and it did have a story. Just because you choose not to see that doesn't mean it didn't.
It did have a story, but it was minimal at best. And the story seemed to be more about Sam than the Transformers. I won't push the matter coz we all have different opinions. Those are just mine.
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Posted by RogueDeathangel on August 16th, 2011 @ 9:36pm CDT
I actually take umbridge with this statement.
I think most people are sort-of... conditioned into believing that a film HAS to have a story for it to be any good but that just simply isn't true. As a medium cinema can be anything committed to screen. You don't need emotional connection to what you see on screen. You don't even need plot or action or development of any kind. This side of cinema is usually only explored in "arthouse" films (another term I hate) but there is absolutely no reason that those same principles cannot be applied to any other "genre" of film. (I also hate the word genre, but it's just easier to use it than to have to explain any of the alternatives.)
No-one complains when an Opera or piece of painted artwork is about the sheer spectacle of it or when ballet is about the poetry of motion so why not apply those same rules to action movies? I'm not saying that every movie should do that I'm just saying that you can't consider a film to be somehow deficient just because it doesn't fit the conventions that are established by its peers.
I'm also aware that Bay et al. are absolutely NOT intending the film to be taken this way, however that's an argument of authorial intent vs. reader analysis. Which, y'know, is an argument that's been raging for as long as there have been authors.
Obviously, just my opinion. (If the internet was a perfect place I probably wouldn't have to remind people of that )
Posted by RogueDeathangel on August 16th, 2011 @ 9:36pm CDT
MINDVVIPE wrote: leaving out story (which should be in every movie, or it shouldn't be made into a movie).
I actually take umbridge with this statement.
I think most people are sort-of... conditioned into believing that a film HAS to have a story for it to be any good but that just simply isn't true. As a medium cinema can be anything committed to screen. You don't need emotional connection to what you see on screen. You don't even need plot or action or development of any kind. This side of cinema is usually only explored in "arthouse" films (another term I hate) but there is absolutely no reason that those same principles cannot be applied to any other "genre" of film. (I also hate the word genre, but it's just easier to use it than to have to explain any of the alternatives.)
No-one complains when an Opera or piece of painted artwork is about the sheer spectacle of it or when ballet is about the poetry of motion so why not apply those same rules to action movies? I'm not saying that every movie should do that I'm just saying that you can't consider a film to be somehow deficient just because it doesn't fit the conventions that are established by its peers.
I'm also aware that Bay et al. are absolutely NOT intending the film to be taken this way, however that's an argument of authorial intent vs. reader analysis. Which, y'know, is an argument that's been raging for as long as there have been authors.
Obviously, just my opinion. (If the internet was a perfect place I probably wouldn't have to remind people of that
)
Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277558)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 9:43pm CDT
I fully comprehend what you're saying, and agree. Maybe DOTM will be watched in museums in the future as a pioneering style of movie, who knows (glad i'll be dead by then ). But fair enough; it is a piece of art, after all, and can be interpreted in a myriad of different ways by those willing to make the effort. I guess I just love good stories in movies, and was hoping to get my fill alongside the crazy visuals in the TF universe. Please don't take offense as I was referring to mainstream films, and that story is vital in this medium for it to be good... imo. Sci-fi makes story even more important to me, since it needs to make sense amongst the bizzare setting.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 16th, 2011 @ 9:43pm CDT
RogueDeathangel wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote: leaving out story (which should be in every movie, or it shouldn't be made into a movie).
I actually take umbridge with this statement.
I think most people are sort-of... conditioned into believing that a film HAS to have a story for it to be any good but that just simply isn't true. As a medium cinema can be anything committed to screen. You don't need emotional connection to what you see on screen. You don't even need plot or action or development of any kind. This side of cinema is usually only explored in "arthouse" films (another term I hate) but there is absolutely no reason that those same principles cannot be applied to any other "genre" of film. (I also hate the word genre, but it's just easier to use it than to have to explain any of the alternatives.)
No-one complains when an Opera or piece of painted artwork is about the sheer spectacle of it or when ballet is about the poetry of motion so why not apply those same rules to action movies? I'm not saying that every movie should do that I'm just saying that you can't consider a film to be somehow deficient just because it doesn't fit the conventions that are established by its peers.
I'm also aware that Bay et al. are absolutely NOT intending the film to be taken this way, however that's an argument of authorial intent vs. reader analysis. Which, y'know, is an argument that's been raging for as long as there have been authors.
Obviously, just my opinion. (If the internet was a perfect place I probably wouldn't have to remind people of that
I fully comprehend what you're saying, and agree. Maybe DOTM will be watched in museums in the future as a pioneering style of movie, who knows (glad i'll be dead by then
). But fair enough; it is a piece of art, after all, and can be interpreted in a myriad of different ways by those willing to make the effort. I guess I just love good stories in movies, and was hoping to get my fill alongside the crazy visuals in the TF universe. Please don't take offense as I was referring to mainstream films, and that story is vital in this medium for it to be good... imo. Sci-fi makes story even more important to me, since it needs to make sense amongst the bizzare setting.
Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277598)
Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2011 @ 11:06pm CDT
Posted by Burn on August 16th, 2011 @ 11:06pm CDT
**** interpretations, I just go to the movies to be entertained and take a short break from reality.
But hey, that's just me ... good ol poorly-educated-has-no-class Burn.
But hey, that's just me ... good ol poorly-educated-has-no-class Burn.
Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277601)
Posted by OptiMagnus on August 16th, 2011 @ 11:14pm CDT
Wow...you too? And I thought I was the only poorly-educated-has-no-class-low standards-ignorant member here after reading through this thread. Apparently I lowered my standards quite a lot to go to the theater to be entertained. I should stop this horrid habit of enjoying films.
But I'm shocked- pleasantly surprised- to see this. I'm glad Transformers has possibly made a permanent mark in Hollywood history.
Posted by OptiMagnus on August 16th, 2011 @ 11:14pm CDT
Burn wrote:**** interpretations, I just go to the movies to be entertained and take a short break from reality.
But hey, that's just me ... good ol poorly-educated-has-no-class Burn.
Wow...you too? And I thought I was the only poorly-educated-has-no-class-low standards-ignorant member here after reading through this thread. Apparently I lowered my standards quite a lot to go to the theater to be entertained. I should stop this horrid habit of enjoying films.
But I'm shocked- pleasantly surprised- to see this. I'm glad Transformers has possibly made a permanent mark in Hollywood history.
Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277610)
Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 11:53pm CDT
Awww...don't worry. I still like ya, Burn.
Posted by Capt.Failure on August 16th, 2011 @ 11:53pm CDT
Burn wrote:**** interpretations, I just go to the movies to be entertained and take a short break from reality.
But hey, that's just me ... good ol poorly-educated-has-no-class Burn.
Awww...don't worry. I still like ya, Burn.
Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277614)
Posted by ROTFarcee on August 17th, 2011 @ 12:03am CDT
Posted by ROTFarcee on August 17th, 2011 @ 12:03am CDT
Ok. Since so many of you claim that DOTM has no story or emotion, i will now write it down. You can then deterimine for yourself whether or not it has no story to it. (if you haven't seen the movie (if so why are you reading this thread) then do not continue. i stole this from wiki. 
In 1961, the Ark, a Cybertronian spacecraft carrying an invention capable of ending the war between the Autobots and Decepticons, crash lands on the far side of Earth's Moon. The crash is detected on Earth by NASA, and President John F. Kennedy authorizes a mission to put a man on the Moon as a cover for investigating the craft. In 1969, the crew of Apollo 11 lands on the Moon to explore the craft.
In the present, the Autobots assist the United States military in preventing conflicts around the globe. During a mission to Chernobyl to investigate suspected alien technology, Optimus Prime finds a fuel cell from the Ark, discovering it had survived its journey from Cybertron. The Autobots are attacked by Shockwave who manages to escape. After learning of the top-secret mission to the Moon, the Autobots travel there to explore the Ark. There they discover a comatose Sentinel Prime – Optimus' predecessor as leader of the Autobots – and his creation, the Pillars, a means of establishing a Space Bridge between two points to teleport matter. After returning to Earth, Optimus uses the energy of his Matrix of Leadership to revive Sentinel Prime.
Meanwhile, Sam Witwicky is frustrated that he is unable to work with the Autobots and failing to find a job. He also becomes envious of the close relationship between his new girlfriend, Carly Spencer, and her boss Dylan Gould. After finding work, Sam is provided information by his eccentric co-worker Jerry Wang about the Ark, before Jerry is assassinated by Laserbeak – a condor-like Decepticon. Sam contacts the now-independently wealthy Seymour Simmons, and together they realize that Megatron and the Decepticons are murdering people connected to the American and Russian space missions to the Ark. They locate two surviving Russian cosmonauts who reveal satellite photos of hundreds of Pillars being stockpiled on the Moon. Sam realizes that the Decepticons raided the Ark long before the Autobots mission and intentionally left Sentinel and five Pillars behind to lure the Autobots into a trap – Sentinel being the key to activating the Pillars and the Decepticons lacking the means to revive him. The Autobots rush to return Sentinel to their base for protection but Sentinel betrays them and kills Ironhide, revealing he had made a deal with Megatron to ensure the survival of the Cybertronian race.
Sentinel uses the Pillars to transport hundreds of concealed Decepticons from the Moon to Earth and Carly is captured by Gould, who is revealed to be in the service of the Decepticons. The Autobots are exiled from Earth at the demand of the Decepticons to avoid war but as their ship leaves Earth it is destroyed by Starscream, seemingly killing the Autobots. The Decepticons, led by Megatron and Sentinel, seize Chicago as their agents place Pillars around the world. Gould reveals to Carly that the Decepticons plan to transport their homeworld of Cybertron to the Milky Way, then to enslave Humanity and use the resources of the Earth to rebuild their world. Sam teams with Robert Epps to go into Chicago to save Carly, but they are nearly killed by Decepticon forces before the Autobots intervene; revealing they concealed themselves during the launch of their ship to convince the Decepticons they were destroyed.
Working together, the Autobots and Human soldiers manage to rescue Carly and destroy Soundwave, Barricade, Starscream and Shockwave, with Optimus using Shockwave's arm-cannon to blast the Control Pillar, disabling the Space Bridge. Sam confronts Gould as he reactivates the Control Pillar. After a brief fistfight, Sam knocks Gould into the Pillar, electrocuting him. Bumblebee and Ratchet arrive and destroy the Control Pillar, permanently disabling the Bridge and causing the partially transported Cybertron to implode. Optimus and Sentinel fight while Carly convinces Megatron that he will be replaced as leader of the Decepticons by Sentinel. Sentinel severs Optimus's right arm and prepares to execute him when Megatron intervenes, incapacitating Sentinel. Optimus attacks Megatron, decapitating and killing him. Sentinel pleads for his life but Optimus executes him for betraying his own principles. With the Decepticons defeated, Carly and Sam are reunited and the Autobots accept that with Cybertron gone, Earth is now their home.
So, if you still claim that dotm doesn't have much of a storyline, link all three movie plots together. The first movie plot: Megatron is trying to use the allspark to transform earths machines to rule the universe. megatron knew about the deal w/ sentinel at this point. he wanted to make new robots to fill the revived planet with life. so after he created new robots, he could use the allspark to revive sentinel and give cybertron life. but after the allspark is destroyed, and the only remaining shard used to revive himself, he needs the legendary matrix, so with help from his mentor the fallen, megatron uses sams mind to try and get the matrix and use the sun harvestor to create energon needed for cybertron. But, the autobots win, and have the matrix of leadership, and megatron is very weak so he hides in the desert while he has lazerbeak feed information to them to get the autobots to fall into his trap and revive sentinel. Because he has no robots made from earths machines, megatron wants to use humans slaves to rebuild cybertron. so, basically its one big three-movie plot.
In 1961, the Ark, a Cybertronian spacecraft carrying an invention capable of ending the war between the Autobots and Decepticons, crash lands on the far side of Earth's Moon. The crash is detected on Earth by NASA, and President John F. Kennedy authorizes a mission to put a man on the Moon as a cover for investigating the craft. In 1969, the crew of Apollo 11 lands on the Moon to explore the craft.
In the present, the Autobots assist the United States military in preventing conflicts around the globe. During a mission to Chernobyl to investigate suspected alien technology, Optimus Prime finds a fuel cell from the Ark, discovering it had survived its journey from Cybertron. The Autobots are attacked by Shockwave who manages to escape. After learning of the top-secret mission to the Moon, the Autobots travel there to explore the Ark. There they discover a comatose Sentinel Prime – Optimus' predecessor as leader of the Autobots – and his creation, the Pillars, a means of establishing a Space Bridge between two points to teleport matter. After returning to Earth, Optimus uses the energy of his Matrix of Leadership to revive Sentinel Prime.
Meanwhile, Sam Witwicky is frustrated that he is unable to work with the Autobots and failing to find a job. He also becomes envious of the close relationship between his new girlfriend, Carly Spencer, and her boss Dylan Gould. After finding work, Sam is provided information by his eccentric co-worker Jerry Wang about the Ark, before Jerry is assassinated by Laserbeak – a condor-like Decepticon. Sam contacts the now-independently wealthy Seymour Simmons, and together they realize that Megatron and the Decepticons are murdering people connected to the American and Russian space missions to the Ark. They locate two surviving Russian cosmonauts who reveal satellite photos of hundreds of Pillars being stockpiled on the Moon. Sam realizes that the Decepticons raided the Ark long before the Autobots mission and intentionally left Sentinel and five Pillars behind to lure the Autobots into a trap – Sentinel being the key to activating the Pillars and the Decepticons lacking the means to revive him. The Autobots rush to return Sentinel to their base for protection but Sentinel betrays them and kills Ironhide, revealing he had made a deal with Megatron to ensure the survival of the Cybertronian race.
Sentinel uses the Pillars to transport hundreds of concealed Decepticons from the Moon to Earth and Carly is captured by Gould, who is revealed to be in the service of the Decepticons. The Autobots are exiled from Earth at the demand of the Decepticons to avoid war but as their ship leaves Earth it is destroyed by Starscream, seemingly killing the Autobots. The Decepticons, led by Megatron and Sentinel, seize Chicago as their agents place Pillars around the world. Gould reveals to Carly that the Decepticons plan to transport their homeworld of Cybertron to the Milky Way, then to enslave Humanity and use the resources of the Earth to rebuild their world. Sam teams with Robert Epps to go into Chicago to save Carly, but they are nearly killed by Decepticon forces before the Autobots intervene; revealing they concealed themselves during the launch of their ship to convince the Decepticons they were destroyed.
Working together, the Autobots and Human soldiers manage to rescue Carly and destroy Soundwave, Barricade, Starscream and Shockwave, with Optimus using Shockwave's arm-cannon to blast the Control Pillar, disabling the Space Bridge. Sam confronts Gould as he reactivates the Control Pillar. After a brief fistfight, Sam knocks Gould into the Pillar, electrocuting him. Bumblebee and Ratchet arrive and destroy the Control Pillar, permanently disabling the Bridge and causing the partially transported Cybertron to implode. Optimus and Sentinel fight while Carly convinces Megatron that he will be replaced as leader of the Decepticons by Sentinel. Sentinel severs Optimus's right arm and prepares to execute him when Megatron intervenes, incapacitating Sentinel. Optimus attacks Megatron, decapitating and killing him. Sentinel pleads for his life but Optimus executes him for betraying his own principles. With the Decepticons defeated, Carly and Sam are reunited and the Autobots accept that with Cybertron gone, Earth is now their home.
So, if you still claim that dotm doesn't have much of a storyline, link all three movie plots together. The first movie plot: Megatron is trying to use the allspark to transform earths machines to rule the universe. megatron knew about the deal w/ sentinel at this point. he wanted to make new robots to fill the revived planet with life. so after he created new robots, he could use the allspark to revive sentinel and give cybertron life. but after the allspark is destroyed, and the only remaining shard used to revive himself, he needs the legendary matrix, so with help from his mentor the fallen, megatron uses sams mind to try and get the matrix and use the sun harvestor to create energon needed for cybertron. But, the autobots win, and have the matrix of leadership, and megatron is very weak so he hides in the desert while he has lazerbeak feed information to them to get the autobots to fall into his trap and revive sentinel. Because he has no robots made from earths machines, megatron wants to use humans slaves to rebuild cybertron. so, basically its one big three-movie plot.
Re: Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Becomes 5th Highest Grossing Movie of All Time (1277620)
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 17th, 2011 @ 12:49am CDT
I've seen all of them. I'm saying it doesn't have story as an exageration of how bad the story is, how badly it is told, and ultimately how nonsensical it is within it's own context.
Posted by MINDVVIPE on August 17th, 2011 @ 12:49am CDT
ROTFarcee wrote:Ok.
I've seen all of them. I'm saying it doesn't have story as an exageration of how bad the story is, how badly it is told, and ultimately how nonsensical it is within it's own context.
