Transformers Combiner Wars Titan Class Devastator Reissue Preorder Live On Hasbro Pulse

ZeroWolf wrote:Did you miss out on this Titan? Did you manage to secure one all those years ago? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

It's a nice alternative I guess for those that missed out, also goes well with the Siege Omega Supreme reissue (I wish they would have reissued Metroplex back in 2017 when TR Trypticon came out , but that is all moot now...)

I am happy with the UW Version I have, and the scaled down KO Taikongzhans that goes well with all other CW/UW/PotP/Selects Combiners. Honestly, if I didn't have this now, I'd probably still shell out the cash for the UW version, but that's just me.

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Did you miss out on this Titan? Did you manage to secure one all those years ago? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

It's a nice alternative I guess for those that missed out, also goes well with the Siege Omega Supreme reissue (I wish they would have reissued Metroplex back in 2017 when TR Trypticon came out , but that is all moot now...)

Well, actually, Takara at least did reissue Metroplex to accompany Trypticon. Back in January 2018. I understand why Hasbro didn't - one Titan on the shelves at a time seems to be stretch as it is, never mind two. And Pulse wasn't really set up at the time.

o.supreme wrote:I am happy with the UW Version I have, and the scaled down KO Taikongzhans that goes well with all other CW/UW/PotP/Selects Combiners. Honestly, if I didn't have this now, I'd probably still shell out the cash for the UW version, but that's just me.

Well, if this uses the original Hasbro toolings for the Constructicons I can't say I blame you.

I have the Unite Warriors release, and it suits me just fine. I'm a little salty that I lost one of the guns when I left a job about 2 years ago. A former coworker was supposed to return it to me but he stopped responding to my messages, and the office is presumably closed due to all this mess. But honestly, since he stays combined most of the time, the Hasbro version probably would have been fine.

Honestly, this is freaking exciting. Everyone here saying its not what they want cause it's not the UW version, but I just can't believe it's cheaper than the titan retail price. Knowing this was getting reissued, I honestly expected it to be a $200+ money grab, but now I've got my chance to get it since i got out of collecting during the time he was originally released. Just made my order. Thanks Hasbro!

I went the in between route, Hasbro with the PC-07 upgrade kit for the guns and elbows. I got mine at TRU at 15% off for using the TRU card with $10 back in rewards to boot, so I really couldn't pass up the deal on the Hasbro version compared to Takara and basically used what I saved from the sale/deal to buy the upgrade kit.

So since we're talking about news on Hasbro pulse, while I was ordering the devastator reissue I noticed something unusual with the newly announced Kingdom figures. it seems like nobody's mentioned the prices of Kingdom wave 2's deluxes on pre-order. Oddly enough they all seem to be marked back down to $19.99 instead of wave 1's 22.99. Odd.

jtanimator wrote:Honestly, this is freaking exciting. Everyone here saying its not what they want cause it's not the UW version, but I just can't believe it's cheaper than the titan retail price.

Its not cheaper. Its the same price for the exact same toy released in 2015. It shouldn't cost more. If it did have a markup, yes that would be a cash grab. This is neither a mark-up or a good deal, it's just normal price.

o.supreme wrote:

jtanimator wrote:Honestly, this is freaking exciting. Everyone here saying its not what they want cause it's not the UW version, but I just can't believe it's cheaper than the titan retail price.

Its not cheaper. Its the same price for the exact same toy released in 2015. It shouldn't cost more. If it did have a markup, yes that would be a cash grab. This is neither a mark-up or a good deal, it's just normal price.

its cheaper than the markup on ebay
i wonder how fast this will sell out

o.supreme wrote:

jtanimator wrote:Honestly, this is freaking exciting. Everyone here saying its not what they want cause it's not the UW version, but I just can't believe it's cheaper than the titan retail price.

Its not cheaper. Its the same price for the exact same toy released in 2015. It shouldn't cost more. If it did have a markup, yes that would be a cash grab. This is neither a mark-up or a good deal, it's just normal price.

Lol I figured someone would jump on what I said to put a negative spin on it. Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
The way I see it, it costs them more to remanufacture the item this time around since they aren't producing it in quantities as high as the first time around (it is just a limited reissue after all), so they could have easily marked it up $20-$30 amd many people would still buy it since that's still much better than paying $300+ for this on ebay. It's alright to compliment Hasbro on the things they do right, not just accuse them when they make a "cash grab" move.

It may be a smaller run, but the development costs are already paid for, so they only have to recoup the actual production costs, which aren't very substantial when divided across however many thousands of units they're making.

I'm taking this reissue announcement to mean that Hasbro aren't planning on making any new G1 Constructicons for a while, which is fair enough, we just got new toys od all of the Michael Bay Constructicons so it's not like there's been no Constructicon love recently. I already have Combiner Wars Devastator and am more or less happy with it, but even so, an all new Devastator with better robot and vehicle modes for the individual Constructicons would be much appreciated.

Munkky wrote:better robot and vehicle modes for the individual Constructicons

Just curious what do you mean by "better". I feel the CW pretty much nailed the look of original series accuracy, but with modern engineering (and UW did THAT one better). and the recent SS was pretty accurate to the RotF film, and the modern look of current construction vehicles. There are so many 3P Devs out there, as you said I cant see TT/Hasbro taking the time and effort to engineer a new one, if so it would neither be accurate to the toy, or any media representation, so I apologize as I'm not exactly sure what you are hoping for.

Munkky wrote:I'm taking this reissue announcement to mean that Hasbro aren't planning on making any new G1 Constructicons for a while, which is fair enough, we just got new toys od all of the Michael Bay Constructicons so it's not like there's been no Constructicon love recently. I already have Combiner Wars Devastator and am more or less happy with it, but even so, an all new Devastator with better robot and vehicle modes for the individual Constructicons would be much appreciated.

I think that when he was designed, the designers placed priority on the combined mode first, then went to the vehicle modes (Since they combine in vehicle mode) and finally the individual robots. From what I've seen, the UW version paid more attention to the individuals, but otherwise the only thing that makes that version superior is the paint.

I'm glad that people who missed out on him don't have to pay ridiculous aftermarket prices for him. I owned him for a few years but got bored with messing with him and even looking at him. The fact that he wasn't in scale with the other combiners and his Mixmaster foot was so small always bothered me a bit as well. I ended up selling him a while ago for the price I got him for.

Hopefully the next iteration will consist of 6 deluxes instead of 6 voyagers.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Hopefully the next iteration will consist of 6 deluxes instead of 6 voyagers.

The Taikongzhans KO is this exactly. CW scaled down to deluxe size, it looks great with the other CW/UW/PotP/Selects Combiners. For a KO it's also one of the most durable I've handled as well.

o.supreme wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Hopefully the next iteration will consist of 6 deluxes instead of 6 voyagers.

The Taikongzhans KO is this exactly. CW scaled down to deluxe size, it looks great with the other CW/UW/PotP/Selects Combiners. For a KO it's also one of the most durable I've handled as well.

No loss of structural integrity due to the smaller size? Also, what version of the joints does it use: CW or UW?

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Hopefully the next iteration will consist of 6 deluxes instead of 6 voyagers.

The Taikongzhans KO is this exactly. CW scaled down to deluxe size, it looks great with the other CW/UW/PotP/Selects Combiners. For a KO it's also one of the most durable I've handled as well.

No loss of structural integrity due to the smaller size? Also, what version of the joints does it use: CW or UW?

Its CW unfortunately, but still looks good. The plastic is not official quality, but for $40 USD, it's the best KO I've ever handled. Solid and no breakage. Other KOs have literally fallen apart as I Transform them, so this was a pleasant surprise.

Thing people have to remember about the SS Constructicons is that they were able to spread them across the three major scales, can't do that with the G1 guys. I can't see SS86 using the Deluxe and Voyager slots up, especially when they're sharing waves with the regular SS. Are we patient enough to wait a year and a half to complete the team again? Probably, but I'd rather they just did a box set from the start.

Emerje

o.supreme wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Hopefully the next iteration will consist of 6 deluxes instead of 6 voyagers.

The Taikongzhans KO is this exactly. CW scaled down to deluxe size, it looks great with the other CW/UW/PotP/Selects Combiners. For a KO it's also one of the most durable I've handled as well.

No loss of structural integrity due to the smaller size? Also, what version of the joints does it use: CW or UW?

Its CW unfortunately, but still looks good. The plastic is not official quality, but for $40 USD, it's the best KO I've ever handled. Solid and no breakage. Other KOs have literally fallen apart as I Transform them, so this was a pleasant surprise.

Since we're talking KO's, are there any 1:1 ones of some limbs, redecoed out there? I may need a couple for my plans... Don't kill me

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Since we're talking KO's, are there any 1:1 ones of some limbs, redecoed out there? I may need a couple for my plans... Don't kill me

Yeah, let's try to keep KO talk in the KO forum.

All I'll say is that the only reason I didn't get that KO yet is because it has the same gimp Mixmaster foot that the Titan does, except smaller.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Since we're talking KO's, are there any 1:1 ones of some limbs, redecoed out there? I may need a couple for my plans... Don't kill me

Yeah, let's try to keep KO talk in the KO forum.

All I'll say is that the only reason I didn't get that KO yet is because it has the same gimp Mixmaster foot that the Titan does, except smaller.

Yeah maybe I'll have better luck there. Not enough limbs out there...

This reissue releases tomorrow on Amazon and I'm torn. I want him but with all the comments in this thread, it sounds like I'm going to combine him and put him on a shelf. I've been reading a bunch and while this Devastator is awesome, some of the individual figures aren't that great. So, I could spend money on this, or I could go to BBTS and get the Diaclone Bro Cord/Spin-out 2-pacl and maybe an Alternator/Alternity figure. Any opinions to sway me either way?

It just depends on what you like most. I love Combiners as they are my favorite aspects of TF fiction. However I have the UW version of Devastator, and knowing it is objectively better in almost every way (paint apps aside), I would still be willing to pay more than double on the secondary market for the UW version, rather than settle for the CW version, but I understand my opinion is nor representative of most. The CW Devastator is a great toy in and of itself, if the UW version didn't exist, I'd be happy with it. But if you are not really a fan of the character, then yeah, with $150 you can definitely get a small haul of other TF's instead, might be more satisfying depending on your personal tastes.

o.supreme wrote:But if you are not really a fan of the character, then yeah, with $150 you can efinitely get a small haul of other TF's instead, might be more satisfying depending on your personal tastes.

I like Devastator but I like the Constructicons too and as individuals, they don't really look as good as other combiner limbs. With Orthia or Abominus, the individuals look just fine next to my other figures. But from the pics I've seen of the Constructicons in robot mode, they lack some 'quality of life' features that other, newer figures have.

Thanks for the reply!

Honestly, over the years I cooled on big Devy a bit. Enough that last summer I sold him and don't miss him at all. Thinking back, he was too big and unwieldy for an actual action figure. The individuals are alright, but too simple. Combined, he looks good on a MP shelf, due to his size, but he's not too posable or playable. A smaller version with all the members being deluxes would be better for actual playing and posing. Especially if they make the individuals more articulated. So like it's bern said, it depends on what you want him for. To look at on a shelf? Then get him, he looks great, especially the UW version. But to handle him and pose him, it's just not worth it to me, he's too clumsy and takes up too much space.

Rodimus Prime wrote:But to handle him and pose him, it's just not worth it to me, he's too clumsy and takes up too much space.

This is why I collect, I love staging scenes and taking pics. A more posable figure wins for me and one of the Constructicons doesn't even have elbows. I've been without Devy and I think I'll be fine missing out on the rerelease.

Thanks for the reply!

aronjlove wrote:

o.supreme wrote:But if you are not really a fan of the character, then yeah, with $150 you can efinitely get a small haul of other TF's instead, might be more satisfying depending on your personal tastes.

I like Devastator but I like the Constructicons too and as individuals, they don't really look as good as other combiner limbs. With Orthia or Abominus, the individuals look just fine next to my other figures. But from the pics I've seen of the Constructicons in robot mode, they lack some 'quality of life' features that other, newer figures have.

Thanks for the reply!

Then dont get it and see if you can save enough for a unite warriors version.

The best individual constructicon is Scrapper but the Hasbro version neuters him by not giving him elbows. The unite warriors version lets him really shine. All other constructicons are improved (long haul is also given elbows) but Scrapper is where the big difference is felt. Plus they wach get individual weapons.

Anyways, if you like them as individuals, then the Hasbro version won't satisfy.

william-james88 wrote:Then dont get it and see if you can save enough for a unite warriors version.

The best individual constructicon is Scrapper but the Hasbro version neuters him by not giving him elbows. The unite warriors version lets him really shine. All other constructicons are improved (long haul is also given elbows) but Scrapper is where the big difference is felt. Plus they wach get individual weapons.

Anyways, if you like them as individuals, then the Hasbro version won't satisfy.

Yeah, OK. I see BBTS had a pre-order for the UW version dropping this month that sold out. I'll keep my eyes open there to see if they get any more stock in. eBay is also an option but I'd probably look for pre-owned if I go that route. I didn't realize the UW version had that many improvements!

Thanks for the reply!

aronjlove wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Then dont get it and see if you can save enough for a unite warriors version.

The best individual constructicon is Scrapper but the Hasbro version neuters him by not giving him elbows. The unite warriors version lets him really shine. All other constructicons are improved (long haul is also given elbows) but Scrapper is where the big difference is felt. Plus they wach get individual weapons.

Anyways, if you like them as individuals, then the Hasbro version won't satisfy.

Yeah, OK. I see BBTS had a pre-order for the UW version dropping this month that sold out. I'll keep my eyes open there to see if they get any more stock in. eBay is also an option but I'd probably look for pre-owned if I go that route. I didn't realize the UW version had that many improvements!

Thanks for the reply!

An in between option you might be able to do is the Hasbro Version plus Perfect Effect kit PC-07. That kit gives you new forearms with elbows for Scrapper, Mixmaster, Hook and Long Haul, as well as individual guns for each bot. Back when he was first released (and TRU still existed in the US) this was a much better deal for me than Takara, as I was able to get Devy on sale plus %15 off for using my TRU credit card. I think the kit new was about $35, so I only paid about $20 more than the regular Hasbro price to essentially get a Takara-lite version (elbows and guns, but no extra pain apps or visor for Devy). The tough part would be finding the PC-07 kit nowadays.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:The tough part would be finding the PC-07 kit nowadays.

Exactly this. I saw your comments earlier in the thread about the upgrade kit and went looking. The only person selling it is an eBay seller and it was almost as much as the rerelease of CW Devy. If I'm gonna pay that much I want it already assembled. That it must have sold out every time it was released because I can find other Perfect Effect upgrade kits for CW and PotP combiners but not PC-07.

Thanks for the reply!

aronjlove wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:The tough part would be finding the PC-07 kit nowadays.

Exactly this. I saw your comments earlier in the thread about the upgrade kit and went looking. The only person selling it is an eBay seller and it was almost as much as the rerelease of CW Devy. If I'm gonna pay that much I want it already assembled. That it must have sold out every time it was released because I can find other Perfect Effect upgrade kits for CW and PotP combiners but not PC-07.

Thanks for the reply!

I also just checked eBay and holy crap, it is definitely not worth what they are asking.

Also there is a scaled down KO version of the CW Dev. It is defintely not Hasbro/TT quality plastics, but for a KO, it is more stable than others in that, it doesn't brake when you Transform it . The individuals are all deluxe size and scales well with all other Generations Combiners. That's why I have both. UW to go with Siege Omega Supreme and the other Titans, and the KO to go with all my other combiners... It is relatively inexpensive, and if you just want something to sit on a shelf with your other combiners, it is a very nice option.

o.supreme wrote:Also there is a scaled down KO version of the CW Dev. It is defintely not Hasbro/TT quality plastics, but for a KO, it is more stable than others in that, it doesn't brake when you Transform it . The individuals are all deluxe size and scales well with all other Generations Combiners. That's why I have both. UW to go with Siege Omega Supreme and the other Titans, and the KO to go with all my other combiners... It is relatively inexpensive, and if you just want something to sit on a shelf with your other combiners, it is a very nice option.

Interesting, I might have to take a look. Thanks for the reply!

For the record, I really like the Titan scale in mixed size class displays. My displays use G1 scale, though I'm not rigid on it, and it's really helpful to have Devastator towering over everyone else. Weight and structure do limit the poses you can do, but that's something you can work around with how you pose everyone else.

Nothing wrong with preferring one thing over another, I'm just really happy with what he can do. Not your thing? No loss.

o.supreme wrote:It just depends on what you like most. I love Combiners as they are my favorite aspects of TF fiction. However I have the UW version of Devastator, and knowing it is objectively better in almost every way (paint apps aside), I would still be willing to pay more than double on the secondary market for the UW version, rather than settle for the CW version, but I understand my opinion is nor representative of most. The CW Devastator is a great toy in and of itself, if the UW version didn't exist, I'd be happy with it. But if you are not really a fan of the character, then yeah, with $150 you can definitely get a small haul of other TF's instead, might be more satisfying depending on your personal tastes.

You really nailed valid points over all o.supreme! I sympathize for those that didn't have the means then and now for the UW version. And as you pointed out this all boils down to one's own personal taste and possibly what one is willing to burn in cost.

I'm a mad man and I got 2 UW (at 2 different times at great deals) just for the fact of wanting both the Constructicons individually and Devastator assembled and hell yes what a choice I made!

I have yet to open and combine Predaking that I was lucky to get but I know they will look so menacing when I get them side by side.

Aronjlove good luck and "choose...but choose wisely".

For anyone who missed out, Pulse has Devy in stock right now at the original $149.99 price from years ago. This is part of their back in stock Friday updates, and available only to Premium members until 3:00 eastern then open to anyone.

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/bac ... devastator

Weird collection of back in stock TF's as well. PotP Bludgeon, MP Smokescreen, Siege UM, Selects Super Megatron (for the 4th time) and a handful of ER.

I ended up getting the Tailclonus head for CW Cyclonus, who looks extra awesome with a better head and finally a good name. This is my Lost Light combiner, and now he has a proper name and a proper head, and he looks surprisingly good with his little buddy too

That does look better than him being shackled to the "Grand Galvatron" reference.

That's a nice head! Needs some better feet to go with him though- I'd recommend looking up SteamShield's combiner slippers on Shapeways for some relatively affordable footsies. They clip over the existing HFGs, they give ankle articulation, and being made on Shapeways they'll never go out of stock!

Evil Eye wrote:That's a nice head! Needs some better feet to go with him though- I'd recommend looking up SteamShield's combiner slippers on Shapeways for some relatively affordable footsies. They clip over the existing HFGs, they give ankle articulation, and being made on Shapeways they'll never go out of stock!

Thanks! the head was actually purchased from Renderform, I didn't print it myself or anything.

I'm actually content with the feet, I've always liked the HFG

I'm seriously tempted to try and nab a low-priced auction on eBay for a G2 Menasor. Despite the fact I've bought too many robots recently anyway and Motormaster being a terrible, terrible torso.

What am I doing with my life.

I was fortunate to reacquire the G2 sets about this time last year. They were going from anywhere between $120-$150. I have no idea what they are now.

Evil Eye wrote:I'm seriously tempted to try and nab a low-priced auction on eBay for a G2 Menasor. Despite the fact I've bought too many robots recently anyway and Motormaster being a terrible, terrible torso.

They're very colorful. I think the G2 limbs would look good with CW Cyclonus.

o.supreme wrote:I was fortunate to reacquire the G2 sets about this time last year. They were going from anywhere between $120-$150. I have no idea what they are now.

I sold mine (G2 Menasor) in November for about $95 on eBay. I think G2 Superion went for about the same and G2 Bruticus for about $80.

I'm guessing that was loose/complete. Sorry...I was only thinking about MIB, because that's how I wanted mine.

Loose yes they can go for under 100, but MIB, the lowest one I currently see is Just under 200 after shipping

Greetings All,

So as some of you may know, I have this long term crazy goal to get one of each variant of the Botcon 2016 Customization Class Ratchet's (as there are 5 variants), as having them all will complete my combiner collection. Well, amazingly I've been making a little progress, but today I hit a snag.

I've received one of the Hand-Foot accessories that was misassembled. Left is misassembled HFG, as opposed to a correct one on the right. It looks like 2 tiny pins would have to be removed and reinserted to correct this. I'm just not sure it is even possible, and if so, what tool should I use? Any assistance is appreciated. Thank you so much.

o.supreme wrote:Greetings All,

So as some of you may know, I have this long term crazy goal to get one of each variant of the Botcon 2016 Customization Class Ratchet's (as there are 5 variants), as having them all will complete my combiner collection. Well, amazingly I've been making a little progress, but today I hit a snag.

I've received one of the Hand-Foot accessories that was misassembled. Left is misassembled HFG, as opposed to a correct one on the right. It looks like 2 tiny pins would have to be removed and reinserted to correct this. I'm just not sure it is even possible, and if so, what tool should I use? Any assistance is appreciated. Thank you so much.

This should not be a problem. Whst you need is a watch pin remover. It looks like a really thin ice pick. Get the millimeter radius that works with that particular pin.
Here's a video I looked at to help me out

https://youtu.be/BkvhRoYg4RQ

Awesome. Thank you so much

I did a search in this forum for "Raiden" and I was surprised on the level of subject activity for this guy. So I'm sorry for not taking time and reading all the posted comments buuuut with what is known so far will it be a MP figure and not a generations combiner? Everyone's comment is greatly awaited.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I did a search in this forum for "Raiden" and I was surprised on the level of subject activity for this guy. So I'm sorry for not taking time and reading all the posted comments buuuut with what is known so far will it be a MP figure and not a generations combiner? Everyone's comment is greatly awaited.

Yes he is rumored to be. Masterpiece set from what I understand of the rumors. They are written in Japanese so I'm not 100% clear on it. He was rumored along with a MP Skyfire, so there was some confusion regarding size.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I did a search in this forum for "Raiden" and I was surprised on the level of subject activity for this guy. So I'm sorry for not taking time and reading all the posted comments buuuut with what is known so far will it be a MP figure and not a generations combiner? Everyone's comment is greatly awaited.

Yes he is rumored to be. Masterpiece set from what I understand of the rumors. They are written in Japanese so I'm not 100% clear on it. He was rumored along with a MP Skyfire, so there was some confusion regarding size.

No rumor, confirmation. He is coming as a Masterpiece, and will be "Unite Warriors size" (whatever that means).