Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Commercials

william-james88 wrote:You guys want to see something cool? How about these two awesome Transformers Combiner Wars commercials with fun animation. I don't know about you but they totally sell me on the product (Not that I needed to be sold on these).

*video snipped*

That CG work is really awesome. It almost looks as if it is 100% faithful to the toys. Cool beans.

except everything stays pegged in

I hope the show that's coming looks as good as that animation.
I think we've seen that Superion commercial before, no?

Cobotron wrote:I hope the show that's coming looks as good as that animation.
I think we've seen that Superion commercial before, no?

I'm pretty sure we've seen this style before and probably that exact Superion video. I dig it and it would be cool to see more of this style.

I would rather something a little more stylized and gritty seeing as the upcoming youtube show (I'm assuming that is what you are talking about) is supposed to be more adult oriented. I'm having a hard time coming up with a reference video. I was thinking the USFIV intro, but it seems to miss the mark after watching it. I'll have to keep digging.

That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Hellscream9999 wrote:That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Yeah but hey, we got Menasor, Bruticus, and the biggest combiner ever: Devastator.

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Yeah but hey, we got Menasor, Bruticus, and the biggest combiner ever: Devastator.

Dev's doesn't do anything for my scramble city collection; not even bothering with devastator


But seriously; 2 vs 4+ combiners is total bull$hit, especially since I don't really care all that much for those dumb goody-two-shoes

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Yeah but hey, we got Menasor, Bruticus, and the biggest combiner ever: Devastator.

Dev's doesn't do anything for my scramble city collection; not even bothering with devastator


But seriously; 2 vs 4+ combiners is total bull$hit, especially since I don't really care all that much for those dumb goody-two-shoes

Yeah... I'm still getting UW Devastator. (YOU GOTTA BE MAD NOT TO WANT DEVASTATOR!!! DEVY COULD WIPE OUT ALL THE 4 NORMAL SIZED AUTOBOT COMBINERS AT ONCE!!!) No hard feelings...

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Yeah but hey, we got Menasor, Bruticus, and the biggest combiner ever: Devastator.

Dev's doesn't do anything for my scramble city collection; not even bothering with devastator


But seriously; 2 vs 4+ combiners is total bull$hit, especially since I don't really care all that much for those dumb goody-two-shoes

Yeah... I'm still getting UW Devastator. (YOU GOTTA BE MAD NOT TO WANT DEVASTATOR!!! DEVY COULD WIPE OUT ALL THE 4 NORMAL SIZED AUTOBOT COMBINERS AT ONCE!!!) No hard feelings...

He's cool, but it's too much for me, I care more about the scramble city figures; gotta pick and choose (what with college loans to pay each month )

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Yeah but hey, we got Menasor, Bruticus, and the biggest combiner ever: Devastator.

Dev's doesn't do anything for my scramble city collection; not even bothering with devastator


But seriously; 2 vs 4+ combiners is total bull$hit, especially since I don't really care all that much for those dumb goody-two-shoes

Yeah... I'm still getting UW Devastator. (YOU GOTTA BE MAD NOT TO WANT DEVASTATOR!!! DEVY COULD WIPE OUT ALL THE 4 NORMAL SIZED AUTOBOT COMBINERS AT ONCE!!!) No hard feelings...

He's cool, but it's too much for me, I care more about the scramble city figures; gotta pick and choose (what with college loans to pay each month )

Understandable. Technically though, you have Galvatronus, who technically mind controls himself some Autobot limbs (but he'd be more awesome with Sweeps) and the Mayhem Attack Squad does Technically count too, but THAT'S an expensive combiner. You can always loop back around for him, though

It's no longer "To Many Bumblebees" now it's "To many Autobots".

Also notice Optimus calls the Aerialbots & Protectobots both Autobots. I know they are both technically "Autobots" but at the same time if you draw to much attention to the name Autobot when applied to flying vehicles it can start to sound silly - when out of context like that.

I do so worry that unless They massively delay them many places all over the world won't see a sign of 4th and 1st Quarter releases as they get swamped by a wave of Star Wars toys.

I've already heard a nasty rumour that the UK has no more Combiner Wars releases planned for 2015 - not even the Autobot Limbs and White Optimus. - I hope that is wrong though. and if it is and they do release them - I expect they will skip Bruiticus which would be even worse on top of the lack of Stunticons.

The irony is can they even run that advert in the UK & Europe since you can't buy half of the toys in the advert.

Understandable. Technically though, you have Galvatronus, who technically mind controls himself some Autobot limbs (but he'd be more awesome with Sweeps) and the Mayhem Attack Squad does Technically count too, but THAT'S an expensive combiner. You can always loop back around for him, though

Dear god, your comment made me very scared. Please don't let Scourge or a Sweep be figure number 7 for TFSS. I can't afford four Sweeps at that price.

Flashwave wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Yeah but hey, we got Menasor, Bruticus, and the biggest combiner ever: Devastator.

Dev's doesn't do anything for my scramble city collection; not even bothering with devastator


But seriously; 2 vs 4+ combiners is total bull$hit, especially since I don't really care all that much for those dumb goody-two-shoes

Yeah... I'm still getting UW Devastator. (YOU GOTTA BE MAD NOT TO WANT DEVASTATOR!!! DEVY COULD WIPE OUT ALL THE 4 NORMAL SIZED AUTOBOT COMBINERS AT ONCE!!!) No hard feelings...

He's cool, but it's too much for me, I care more about the scramble city figures; gotta pick and choose (what with college loans to pay each month )

Understandable. Technically though, you have Galvatronus, who technically mind controls himself some Autobot limbs (but he'd be more awesome with Sweeps) and the Mayhem Attack Squad does Technically count too, but THAT'S an expensive combiner. You can always loop back around for him, though

Yeah, but technically, I can't display galvatronus, menasor and superion at the same time, which, I believe, is a distinct weakness. Fiction or not, I think they could have at least mixed in some seeker limbs over the 2 years this'll be taking place

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Yeah but hey, we got Menasor, Bruticus, and the biggest combiner ever: Devastator.

Dev's doesn't do anything for my scramble city collection; not even bothering with devastator


But seriously; 2 vs 4+ combiners is total bull$hit, especially since I don't really care all that much for those dumb goody-two-shoes

Yeah... I'm still getting UW Devastator. (YOU GOTTA BE MAD NOT TO WANT DEVASTATOR!!! DEVY COULD WIPE OUT ALL THE 4 NORMAL SIZED AUTOBOT COMBINERS AT ONCE!!!) No hard feelings...

He's cool, but it's too much for me, I care more about the scramble city figures; gotta pick and choose (what with college loans to pay each month )

Understandable. Technically though, you have Galvatronus, who technically mind controls himself some Autobot limbs (but he'd be more awesome with Sweeps) and the Mayhem Attack Squad does Technically count too, but THAT'S an expensive combiner. You can always loop back around for him, though

Yeah, but technically, I can't display galvatronus, menasor and superion at the same time, which, I believe, is a distinct weakness. Fiction or not, I think they could have at least mixed in some seeker limbs over the 2 years this'll be taking place

Buy more limbs!

carytheone wrote:

Cobotron wrote:I hope the show that's coming looks as good as that animation.
I think we've seen that Superion commercial before, no?

I'm pretty sure we've seen this style before and probably that exact Superion video. I dig it and it would be cool to see more of this style.

I would rather something a little more stylized and gritty seeing as the upcoming youtube show (I'm assuming that is what you are talking about) is supposed to be more adult oriented. I'm having a hard time coming up with a reference video. I was thinking the USFIV intro, but it seems to miss the mark after watching it. I'll have to keep digging.

I want more of these. I love the videos and they have good animation. I would love a show looking like this!

I'm just gonna put this here:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-x ... e=5683E52F

This too:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-x ... e=5683FA57

Just throwing it out there

Toss this in there too. Rodimus joins the big bang club

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-x ... 4142_o.jpg

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm just gonna put this here:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-x ... e=5683E52F

This too:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-x ... e=5683FA57

Just throwing it out there

That's pretty cool, just sayin.

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:That's hilarious when they say 'decepticon's' at the end; what decepticon's? We have way too many f%#cking autobots right now, and the foreseeable future

Yeah but hey, we got Menasor, Bruticus, and the biggest combiner ever: Devastator.

Dev's doesn't do anything for my scramble city collection; not even bothering with devastator


But seriously; 2 vs 4+ combiners is total bull$hit, especially since I don't really care all that much for those dumb goody-two-shoes

Yeah... I'm still getting UW Devastator. (YOU GOTTA BE MAD NOT TO WANT DEVASTATOR!!! DEVY COULD WIPE OUT ALL THE 4 NORMAL SIZED AUTOBOT COMBINERS AT ONCE!!!) No hard feelings...

He's cool, but it's too much for me, I care more about the scramble city figures; gotta pick and choose (what with college loans to pay each month )

Understandable. Technically though, you have Galvatronus, who technically mind controls himself some Autobot limbs (but he'd be more awesome with Sweeps) and the Mayhem Attack Squad does Technically count too, but THAT'S an expensive combiner. You can always loop back around for him, though

Yeah, but technically, I can't display galvatronus, menasor and superion at the same time, which, I believe, is a distinct weakness. Fiction or not, I think they could have at least mixed in some seeker limbs over the 2 years this'll be taking place

Buy more limbs!

That's a great idea, you treating? 'cuz I don't ever buy duplicate figures

Break the thread! Boom!

Considering cyclonus' role in the comics, he works with autobot limbs. I can see why you're disappointed but He is definitely a great character and one I am very proud to own

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Buy more limbs!

That's a great idea, you treating? 'cuz I don't ever buy duplicate figures

Yeah I was just joking, you do customs? Cuz if you do then the Arielbots would make great decepticons.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Break the thread! Boom!

Considering cyclonus' role in the comics, he works with autobot limbs. I can see why you're disappointed but He is definitely a great character and one I am very proud to own

I love him, but I don't read the comics, and never thought mixing the factions was a good idea; there are some lines that aren't to be crossed

SillySpringer wrote:The Arielbots would make great decepticons.

Yeah, hasbro sure missed a trick by not doing this, this most obvious use of the molds

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Break the thread! Boom!

Considering cyclonus' role in the comics, he works with autobot limbs. I can see why you're disappointed but He is definitely a great character and one I am very proud to own

I love him, but I don't read the comics, and never thought mixing the factions was a good idea; there are some lines that aren't to be crossed

They are actually very good, I think you'd enjoy them. and in the comics at least, cyclonus has never wore a badge, so technically it's not cross badging.....

Serious Question: What is everyone's opinions of the 3rd party hand/foot upgrades? There is a Defensor on EBay I am watching and it has those perfect effect hands and feet and I want to know are they worth it?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Serious Question: What is everyone's opinions of the 3rd party hand/foot upgrades? There is a Defensor on EBay I am watching and it has those perfect effect hands and feet and I want to know are they worth it?

They are very out of proportion with the limbs and torsos. The feet also tend to fall in half a lot; and the hands are nastily skeletal. They aren't even good as weapons from the look of it. They pointlessly shoved in a bunch of gimmicks and nothing ended up working.

If you're on the fence watch benscollectables, or some other reviewer to find out fo ryourself. If you want it for defensor, get it, or try to find a cheaper one; otherwise check out nonnef for good hands/feet/ratchets.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Break the thread! Boom!

Considering cyclonus' role in the comics, he works with autobot limbs. I can see why you're disappointed but He is definitely a great character and one I am very proud to own

I love him, but I don't read the comics, and never thought mixing the factions was a good idea; there are some lines that aren't to be crossed

They are actually very good, I think you'd enjoy them. and in the comics at least, cyclonus has never wore a badge, so technically it's not cross badging.....

I probably would like them, but don't have the money or stores to buy them; and I'm not sure I would care enough to grind through all of them if I found them online

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Serious Question: What is everyone's opinions of the 3rd party hand/foot upgrades? There is a Defensor on EBay I am watching and it has those perfect effect hands and feet and I want to know are they worth it?

They are very out of proportion with the limbs and torsos. The feet also tend to fall in half a lot; and the hands are nastily skeletal. They aren't even good as weapons from the look of it. They pointlessly shoved in a bunch of gimmicks and nothing ended up working.

If you're on the fence watch benscollectables, or some other reviewer to find out fo ryourself. If you want it for defensor, get it, or try to find a cheaper one; otherwise check out nonnef for good hands/feet/ratchets.

Thanks HS. I'm not sure yet, but given the proportions and the fact that I really like the regular hand/foot things, I think I'll pass. Thanks!

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Break the thread! Boom!

Considering cyclonus' role in the comics, he works with autobot limbs. I can see why you're disappointed but He is definitely a great character and one I am very proud to own

I love him, but I don't read the comics, and never thought mixing the factions was a good idea; there are some lines that aren't to be crossed

They are actually very good, I think you'd enjoy them. and in the comics at least, cyclonus has never wore a badge, so technically it's not cross badging.....

I probably would like them, but don't have the money or stores to buy them; and I'm not sure I would care enough to grind through all of them if I found them online

I've been buying them by the volumes. 1 volumes collects 5 or 6 issues and is only $12-15 on amazon and occasionally cheaper on ebay, including shipping (many times free). both major ongoings right now are superb, so I think you could get into them, and you can do so slowly if need be.

The reason I got into them: Deluxe trailcutter. Favorite transformer of all time, and he had a comic, and I fell in love

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Serious Question: What is everyone's opinions of the 3rd party hand/foot upgrades? There is a Defensor on EBay I am watching and it has those perfect effect hands and feet and I want to know are they worth it?

They are very out of proportion with the limbs and torsos. The feet also tend to fall in half a lot; and the hands are nastily skeletal. They aren't even good as weapons from the look of it. They pointlessly shoved in a bunch of gimmicks and nothing ended up working.

If you're on the fence watch benscollectables, or some other reviewer to find out for yourself. If you want it for defensor, get it, or try to find a cheaper one; otherwise check out nonnef for good hands/feet/ratchets.

Thanks HS. I'm not sure yet, but given the proportions and the fact that I really like the regular hand/foot things, I think I'll pass. Thanks!

Yeah, the originals work very well, I only bought a set for galvatronus, it was only $10, ~$3 shipping, because I wanted poseable hands for him, since he is my favorite, and he remains combined almost all the time. You would probably be surprised how sturdy the feet are if you bend the thumbs towards the inside of the legs.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Break the thread! Boom!

Considering cyclonus' role in the comics, he works with autobot limbs. I can see why you're disappointed but He is definitely a great character and one I am very proud to own

I love him, but I don't read the comics, and never thought mixing the factions was a good idea; there are some lines that aren't to be crossed

They are actually very good, I think you'd enjoy them. and in the comics at least, cyclonus has never wore a badge, so technically it's not cross badging.....

I probably would like them, but don't have the money or stores to buy them; and I'm not sure I would care enough to grind through all of them if I found them online

I've been buying them by the volumes. 1 volumes collects 5 or 6 issues and is only $12-15 on amazon and occasionally cheaper on ebay, including shipping (many times free). both major ongoings right now are superb, so I think you could get into them, and you can do so slowly if need be.

The reason I got into them: Deluxe trailcutter. Favorite transformer of all time, and he had a comic, and I fell in love

Yeah, I grew up reading the War Within series (damn shame ) which was originally pre-G1 canon, and introduced my avatar, The Fallen (the only decent one that is ); never will another impression be left upon me like his was

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Serious Question: What is everyone's opinions of the 3rd party hand/foot upgrades? There is a Defensor on EBay I am watching and it has those perfect effect hands and feet and I want to know are they worth it?

They are very out of proportion with the limbs and torsos. The feet also tend to fall in half a lot; and the hands are nastily skeletal. They aren't even good as weapons from the look of it. They pointlessly shoved in a bunch of gimmicks and nothing ended up working.

If you're on the fence watch benscollectables, or some other reviewer to find out fo ryourself. If you want it for defensor, get it, or try to find a cheaper one; otherwise check out nonnef for good hands/feet/ratchets.

I know you are talking about Defensor, but I was thinking the same thing regarding Motormaster, even though I don't like how that figure looks. With my all new Motormaster/Menasor torso that I'm CAD designing by myself...

...I'm also planning to have the combiner bits integrated into Motormaster's induvidual modes (Monster truck mode, and robot mode). It's kind of a shame that the Hasbro combiner torsos don't do the same thing. Why give the limbs giant, ugly, hand/foot/gun things to hold in their hands, when you can easily design them into the voyager itself! Just a thought. (I also thing that the combiner feet and hands, would look better if they were their own pieces, and instead became part of the alt mode, and individual robot mode.) If they did that, they could've EASILY made better looking, and more appropriately sized hands and feet.

Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Burn wrote:Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Lol, yes Burn. But it's more or less because I like to think rationally about it. Would it be more convenient for the combiner bits to be integrated into all of the modes, and then only used when in combined form, or would it be more convenient for the limb bots to lug around these giant pieces, and potentially get them lost? If one of them looses a piece, then they're in big trouble now aren't they?
I also think a Monster truck makes more sense for a STUNTicon, than a semi truck does. Also, who doesn't want to see a black, grey, and purple monster truck??? I sure do!

integrated parts are ass

So don't lose them. (I never did)

Like you said, the feet/hands are ugly when used on the individual modes. Don't get me wrong, I think it's good Hasbro have made the feet/hands work with the individual modes, I just don't think they look good are even necessary.

If anything, they were designed to look good in combined mode, the individual modes were just an after thought. (Mine will be staying combined anyway, except for the outcasts)

Burn wrote:So don't lose them. (I never did)

Like you said, the feet/hands are ugly when used on the individual modes. Don't get me wrong, I think it's good Hasbro have made the feet/hands work with the individual modes, I just don't think they look good are even necessary.

If anything, they were designed to look good in combined mode, the individual modes were just an after thought. (Mine will be staying combined anyway, except for the outcasts)

My point is, instead of having them as GIANT GUNS SITTING ON TOP OF THE VEHICLE, how bout having them as part of the vehicle? When I'm done designing it, you'll see what I'm talking about.
If I integrate them into the vehicle mode and robot mode as part of them (like for example, the robot mode legs come off and become the APPROPRIATELY SIZED feet in combined mode), you wouldn't even know the pieces are there till you combine him. I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast.

peaces wrote:integrated parts are ass

Like I said, they are not if you design them properly.

Not only will my Motormaster be a better torso for your Stunticons, but also an upgrade kit to give him better hands and feet in combined mode.

You know who combined well and integrated his parts perfectly into his alt mode?

(Original) RiD Optimus Prime.

Burn wrote:You know who combined well and integrated his parts perfectly into his alt mode?

(Original) RiD Optimus Prime.

YES.
I like integrated parts, if it's designed properly.

Burn wrote:You know who combined well and integrated his parts perfectly into his alt mode?

(Original) RiD Optimus Prime.

I'll raise ya one, the rid prime/magnus combined mode hands (they turn inside out don't they? now that is parts integration )

Burn wrote:You know who combined well and integrated his parts perfectly into his alt mode?

(Original) RiD Optimus Prime.

To be completely fair, all that core Prime had to do for his combining was spread his shoulders and raise his torso over his head. But yes, his extra parts were well-taken care of. Except his damn pistol. I've lost that thing and then found it and then lost it again several times. I think I've lost it for good this time.

As for integrated combiner parts on scramble combiners, we tried that with FOC Bruticus. The result was kind of terrible. I kind of prefer the hands and feet be separate on the real toys, even if they spawn out of nowhere in fiction. As long as they have somewhere to go and look plausible in other modes, it's good. This works especially well with the Aerialbots, since real jets are known to have underslung missiles. For the cars, I admit it's much more obnoxious, but kids don't care, and adults can put them to the side.

Integrated parts work pretty well for LioKaiser.

That Bot wrote:

Burn wrote:You know who combined well and integrated his parts perfectly into his alt mode?

(Original) RiD Optimus Prime.

To be completely fair, all that core Prime had to do for his combining was spread his shoulders and raise his torso over his head. But yes, his extra parts were well-taken care of. Except his damn pistol. I've lost that thing and then found it and then lost it again several times. I think I've lost it for good this time.

As for integrated combiner parts on scramble combiners, we tried that with FOC Bruticus. The result was kind of terrible. I kind of prefer the hands and feet be separate on the real toys, even if they spawn out of nowhere in fiction. As long as they have somewhere to go and look plausible in other modes, it's good. This works especially well with the Aerialbots, since real jets are known to have underslung missiles. For the cars, I admit it's much more obnoxious, but kids don't care, and adults can put them to the side.

THIS


I thought half of the stunticons pulled off the integration (you know who they are) pretty well; and yeah, I knew the volume of accessories was going to be quite egregious, so I put a ziploc next to them to store any and all spare parts left behind.

I KIND of wish the jet hands split down the middle like and you could put half under each wing... that would have been pretty cool.

I don't get too concerned when dealing with the toys. In my mind, Transformers would be (shudder) more like Bay's designs with billions of little pieces packed into a vehicle shell that COULD form into hands or feet... where Toys just don't do that. There's always SOME compromise to be made. Heck, on some of these it's tough to get a good robot AND a good Vehicle... Demanding an awesome limb too is a bit greedy.

I will say I love weapons to be tucked in somewhere. I absolutely loved how Beast Wars started the whole integrated weapons concept... but whole hands and feet? I can justify those being extra parts.

that sure brings back memories of the old G1 toy commercials

william-james88 wrote:Integrated parts work pretty well for LioKaiser.

Liokaiser was the ultimate combiner, still is. nothing has yet surpassed it

That Bot wrote:

Burn wrote:You know who combined well and integrated his parts perfectly into his alt mode?

(Original) RiD Optimus Prime.

To be completely fair, all that core Prime had to do for his combining was spread his shoulders and raise his torso over his head. But yes, his extra parts were well-taken care of. Except his damn pistol. I've lost that thing and then found it and then lost it again several times. I think I've lost it for good this time.

As for integrated combiner parts on scramble combiners, we tried that with FOC Bruticus. The result was kind of terrible. I kind of prefer the hands and feet be separate on the real toys, even if they spawn out of nowhere in fiction. As long as they have somewhere to go and look plausible in other modes, it's good. This works especially well with the Aerialbots, since real jets are known to have underslung missiles. For the cars, I admit it's much more obnoxious, but kids don't care, and adults can put them to the side.

Those integrated parts sucked. They made those toys very hard to play with. I like the new ones so much better

That Bot wrote:

Burn wrote:You know who combined well and integrated his parts perfectly into his alt mode?

(Original) RiD Optimus Prime.

To be completely fair, all that core Prime had to do for his combining was spread his shoulders and raise his torso over his head. But yes, his extra parts were well-taken care of. Except his damn pistol. I've lost that thing and then found it and then lost it again several times. I think I've lost it for good this time.

As for integrated combiner parts on scramble combiners, we tried that with FOC Bruticus. The result was kind of terrible. I kind of prefer the hands and feet be separate on the real toys, even if they spawn out of nowhere in fiction. As long as they have somewhere to go and look plausible in other modes, it's good. This works especially well with the Aerialbots, since real jets are known to have underslung missiles. For the cars, I admit it's much more obnoxious, but kids don't care, and adults can put them to the side.

I'll just quote what I said previously:

SillySpringer wrote:

Burn wrote:So don't lose them. (I never did)

Like you said, the feet/hands are ugly when used on the individual modes. Don't get me wrong, I think it's good Hasbro have made the feet/hands work with the individual modes, I just don't think they look good are even necessary.

If anything, they were designed to look good in combined mode, the individual modes were just an after thought. (Mine will be staying combined anyway, except for the outcasts)

My point is, instead of having them as GIANT GUNS SITTING ON TOP OF THE VEHICLE, how bout having them as part of the vehicle? When I'm done designing it, you'll see what I'm talking about.
If I integrate them into the vehicle mode and robot mode as part of him (like for example, the robot mode legs come off and become the APPROPRIATELY SIZED feet in combined mode), you wouldn't even know the pieces are there till you combine him. I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast.

peaces wrote:integrated parts are ass

Like I said, they are not if you design them properly.

Not only will my Motormaster be a better torso for your Stunticons, but also an upgrade kit to give him better hands and feet in combined mode.

The hands and feet will NOT be PART of the limbs, but rather part of Motormaster himself (e.g. his legs become the combined mode feet). It's not THAT hard to comprehend. I'm not talking about doing the Bruticus thing at ALL.

SillySpringer wrote:

Burn wrote:So don't lose them. (I never did)

Like you said, the feet/hands are ugly when used on the individual modes. Don't get me wrong, I think it's good Hasbro have made the feet/hands work with the individual modes, I just don't think they look good are even necessary.

If anything, they were designed to look good in combined mode, the individual modes were just an after thought. (Mine will be staying combined anyway, except for the outcasts)

My point is, instead of having them as GIANT GUNS SITTING ON TOP OF THE VEHICLE, how bout having them as part of the vehicle? When I'm done designing it, you'll see what I'm talking about.
If I integrate them into the vehicle mode and robot mode as part of them (like for example, the robot mode legs come off and become the APPROPRIATELY SIZED feet in combined mode), you wouldn't even know the pieces are there till you combine him. I'm not talking about ME losing the combiner bits, I'm talking about the Stunticons losing them in battle, and not being able to combine. Lose 1 piece, they're toast.

peaces wrote:integrated parts are ass

Like I said, they are not if you design them properly.

Not only will my Motormaster be a better torso for your Stunticons, but also an upgrade kit to give him better hands and feet in combined mode.

In this case I like the hand/foot guns. they integrate fairly well in vehicle mode, can be set a aside in robot mode and make good appendages in combined mode, so to me they were well designed

phantom1592 wrote:I KIND of wish the jet hands split down the middle like and you could put half under each wing... that would have been pretty cool.

That would probably work for me actually.

As it is you have one figure, then this big plastic block attached to it which really kills the aestehetic.

Burn wrote:Why design them to be integrated in the first place? Kids should just not lose their parts.

Those hand/foot guns are pretty big. dont know how they could be lost anyway