Transformers Combiner Wars Alpha Bravo In Hand Images

I'm not Vortex... really... really, guys... buy me. There won't be a repaint of me coming down the line later, no sir-ee-bob...

am i the only one here to notice that dragstrip looks entirely different on the card art and the actual toy?

Alpha Bravo looks fantastic and I've only just realised that he's decorated in slingshots colours

zemper wrote:am i the only one here to notice that dragstrip looks entirely different on the card art and the actual toy?

Yeah, I think the art for the cards (at least the known characters) come from the Transformers Legends game app, so they're not necessarily identical to the final toy. Still, if it comes packed in anyway then money for old rope I guess.

ZeroWolf wrote:Alpha Bravo looks fantastic and I've only just realised that he's decorated in slingshots colours

That is a nice touch, considering he's Slingshot's replacement in-universe.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I'm not Vortex... really... really, guys... buy me. There won't be a repaint of me coming down the line later, no sir-ee-bob...

I'm also certainly not Blades. Never even met the guy. And with some minor retooling I could be a space shuttle? Perish the thought.

Yeah, this mold is going to get some heavy use. A straight repaint to make Vortex, a minor remold to make Blades (new head, replace the missiles with canons, maybe add landing bars), and a major remold for Blast Off.

Couldn't help but notice that leg mode has the foot on backwards. His knee would bend the wrong way if his foot faced that direction.

Emerje

I am sotry but Alpha Bravo gets no love from me. The altmode just annoys the crap out of me. I still don't like this whole line either. The idea is awesome but the execution is poor. I don't understand why Hasbro is taking a step back and making less articulated figures with simplistic transformations. On top of that they lack detail and paint aps all over and have way too many hollow parts. The combined hand/foot is also not doing it for me.

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DMSL wrote:I am sorry but Alpha Bravo gets no love from me. The alt mode just annoys the crap out of me. I still don't like this whole line either. The idea is awesome but the execution is poor. I don't understand why Hasbro is taking a step back and making less articulated figures with simplistic transformations. On top of that they lack detail and paint aps all over and have way too many hollow parts. The combined hand/foot is also not doing it for me.

Lol what? The alt mode looks rather good actually, it's just lacking landing gear. How exactly is the execution poor? Where are people getting that these are somehow less articulated? It has a head swivel at the very least, it also has ball jointed hips and shoulders, swivels at the biceps and thighs, hinges at the knees and elbows and waist rotation. It seems to me that compared to standard deluxe figures, it has one more point of articulation and that being the waist joint and EVERY limb bot will have that. The combined modes have universal shoulders and hips, bicep swivels, double jointed elbows, wrist swivels, thumb and slight hand articulation, knee hinges and possibly thigh and waist swivels depending on the torso.

Hasbro has been doing simplified transformation for a few years now so that's nothing new. Where do you see it lacking in detail? Both robot mode and helicopter mode seem to have plenty of detail throughout. It also has a lot of paint on it. More than I've seen in a while on a deluxe actually. The entire chest is painted that color, the head and eyes are painted, the multitude of windows on the cockpit are all painted as is the underside and lets not forget the blue stripes on the sides and the missiles if they're not a separate piece to the lower arms. It also doesn't look any more hollow than Classics Astrotrain is considering it seems to transform almost the exact same way. However, I can see why people don't like the hand/foot design but I like it.

I really don't see what more people would want out of these. It they did any more to them they'd have to sell the deluxes at voyager prices and the voyagers at ultra prices. That won't work at all for Hasbro. People seem to think that they can just load up on big box figures but they can't because of how brick and mortar stores work their shelving spaces out. They'd never be able to sell two combiners at eight voyagers and two ultra/leader/weaponizers/whateverthey'recallednow. They just don't have the same luxuries that third party companies have but at the same time they have more in other areas. It's just that the less luxuries they have mean that they can't get every single figure perfect every single time. Some shortcuts and cost cutting measures need to be taken in order for Hasbro to continue to do anything. The funny thing though is that I don't see many cost cutting measures with these new combiner wars figures. They really do look great.

Are people still just hating on this guy simply because he's not Slingshot? Get over it already. Hasbro has every right to change and evolve their brand and characters. If you want a Superion that looks 100% like G1 Superion, then just buy yourself a G1 Superion already and shut up about it already. I typed it on another site and someone typed something similar here as well that one of the reasons they've changed one jet into a helicopter and one car into an suv was because parents, the main people buying these, won't understand or want to buy four almost identical toys just for one combiner they might not even know or care about. It's also why they're not selling complete combiner teams at the same time. They're changing the alt modes and colors up enough to make them more appealing on the shelves. They have to think of these as standalone figures because of how their main buyers think. They seemed to have learned their lesson from the movies where they were selling the same alt modes, colors and names every wave and they weren't selling at all by the time the third movie came out. Parents were just tired of buying what they thought was the same toys over and over and over and over and over again.

^ Some might also feel spoiled by third party combiners.

I actually like the idea of a retool into Blast - off (and not just because I love space shuttles).

Also DMSL these look quite articulated to me and they do the job they need to. Could they do and be better? Well that's subjective. You think they could I don't, not at this price point anyway. Also simplistic transformations? Don't forget the target audience who will want to transform these into limb mode as soon as possible.

Alpha Weltall wrote:

DMSL wrote:I am sorry but Alpha Bravo gets no love from me. The alt mode just annoys the crap out of me. I still don't like this whole line either. The idea is awesome but the execution is poor. I don't understand why Hasbro is taking a step back and making less articulated figures with simplistic transformations. On top of that they lack detail and paint aps all over and have way too many hollow parts. The combined hand/foot is also not doing it for me.

Lol what? The alt mode looks rather good actually, it's just lacking landing gear. How exactly is the execution poor? Where are people getting that these are somehow less articulated? It has a head swivel at the very least, it also has ball jointed hips and shoulders, swivels at the biceps and thighs, hinges at the knees and elbows and waist rotation. It seems to me that compared to standard deluxe figures, it has one more point of articulation and that being the waist joint and EVERY limb bot will have that. The combined modes have universal shoulders and hips, bicep swivels, double jointed elbows, wrist swivels, thumb and slight hand articulation, knee hinges and possibly thigh and waist swivels depending on the torso.

Hasbro has been doing simplified transformation for a few years now so that's nothing new. Where do you see it lacking in detail? Both robot mode and helicopter mode seem to have plenty of detail throughout. It also has a lot of paint on it. More than I've seen in a while on a deluxe actually. The entire chest is painted that color, the head and eyes are painted, the multitude of windows on the cockpit are all painted as is the underside and lets not forget the blue stripes on the sides and the missiles if they're not a separate piece to the lower arms. It also doesn't look any more hollow than Classics Astrotrain is considering it seems to transform almost the exact same way. However, I can see why people don't like the hand/foot design but I like it.

I really don't see what more people would want out of these. It they did any more to them they'd have to sell the deluxes at voyager prices and the voyagers at ultra prices. That won't work at all for Hasbro. People seem to think that they can just load up on big box figures but they can't because of how brick and mortar stores work their shelving spaces out. They'd never be able to sell two combiners at eight voyagers and two ultra/leader/weaponizers/whateverthey'recallednow. They just don't have the same luxuries that third party companies have but at the same time they have more in other areas. It's just that the less luxuries they have mean that they can't get every single figure perfect every single time. Some shortcuts and cost cutting measures need to be taken in order for Hasbro to continue to do anything. The funny thing though is that I don't see many cost cutting measures with these new combiner wars figures. They really do look great.

Are people still just hating on this guy simply because he's not Slingshot? Get over it already. Hasbro has every right to change and evolve their brand and characters. If you want a Superion that looks 100% like G1 Superion, then just buy yourself a G1 Superion already and shut up about it already. I typed it on another site and someone typed something similar here as well that one of the reasons they've changed one jet into a helicopter and one car into an suv was because parents, the main people buying these, won't understand or want to buy four almost identical toys just for one combiner they might not even know or care about. It's also why they're not selling complete combiner teams at the same time. They're changing the alt modes and colors up enough to make them more appealing on the shelves. They have to think of these as standalone figures because of how their main buyers think. They seemed to have learned their lesson from the movies where they were selling the same alt modes, colors and names every wave and they weren't selling at all by the time the third movie came out. Parents were just tired of buying what they thought was the same toys over and over and over and over and over again.

I was too busy at first to notice your post but you put it better then I did.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I'm not Vortex... really... really, guys... buy me. There won't be a repaint of me coming down the line later, no sir-ee-bob...

I don't care if they mix/match a Bruticus (Onslaught is a truck).
And if they repaint the Stunticons into that Autobot combiner with Optimus, like that G1 episode.

I'd buy those 2 repaint sets just as hard as I'm going to buy the first two combiner sets.

Altmode looks good, robot mode great and combiner mode also very good!

I'm all in, Combiner Wars is pure win!

If it rhymes it has to be correct, amirite?

i won't be buying these, but i have to say, they look quite nice

Noctorro wrote:I'm all in, Combiner Wars is pure win!

If it rhymes it has to be correct, amirite?

You are correct sir but by rhyming you make me think you're G1 Wheelie trapped in our dimension

Haha ZeroWolf,

Did I just paint a giant target on my back?

Two thumbs UP!

Sabrblade wrote:^ Some might also feel spoiled by third party combiners.

Or they might be thinking "I spent all that money to get those combiners, while I could have waited all these years and gotten them cheaper?!"

At any rate, I'm a helicopter nut, so Alpha Bravo will be in my collection when I see him. Now all we need is a standalone Slingshot/Quickslinger, maybe as a repaint.

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Sabrblade wrote:^ Some might also feel spoiled by third party combiners.

im spoiled by 3P combiners. but even i can see how great these are. ill be buyin the hell out of CW's!

as far as AB goes, he looks awesome! to me he's just slingshot with different kibble. would i like him to be a jet? sure! but it wont stop me from appreciating him.

He seems to have some pretty good balance to be able to pull,off that pose in the third pic. Or am I missing some kind of stande here?

Ahhh yes HasTak again another aircraft TF with no landing gear. Would it have killed you to have given Alpha Bravo some sort of landing gear molded on or retracting or was that too costly? My sincerest apologies if I'm assuming and its just not visible.

At any rate what we have seen so far is awesome stuff and consider this and others so far "sold" in my book.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:He seems to have some pretty good balance to be able to pull,off that pose in the third pic. Or am I missing some kind of stande here?

Agreed. At first, I thought maybe they used one of his rotor blades as a makeshift stand.

As with Dragstrip, I'm impressed with Alpha Bravo. Can't wait for these to appear in the US!

Alpha Weltall wrote:

DMSL wrote:I am sorry but Alpha Bravo gets no love from me. The alt mode just annoys the crap out of me. I still don't like this whole line either. The idea is awesome but the execution is poor. I don't understand why Hasbro is taking a step back and making less articulated figures with simplistic transformations. On top of that they lack detail and paint aps all over and have way too many hollow parts. The combined hand/foot is also not doing it for me.

Lol what? The alt mode looks rather good actually, it's just lacking landing gear. How exactly is the execution poor? Where are people getting that these are somehow less articulated? It has a head swivel at the very least, it also has ball jointed hips and shoulders, swivels at the biceps and thighs, hinges at the knees and elbows and waist rotation. It seems to me that compared to standard deluxe figures, it has one more point of articulation and that being the waist joint and EVERY limb bot will have that. The combined modes have universal shoulders and hips, bicep swivels, double jointed elbows, wrist swivels, thumb and slight hand articulation, knee hinges and possibly thigh and waist swivels depending on the torso.

Hasbro has been doing simplified transformation for a few years now so that's nothing new. Where do you see it lacking in detail? Both robot mode and helicopter mode seem to have plenty of detail throughout. It also has a lot of paint on it. More than I've seen in a while on a deluxe actually. The entire chest is painted that color, the head and eyes are painted, the multitude of windows on the cockpit are all painted as is the underside and lets not forget the blue stripes on the sides and the missiles if they're not a separate piece to the lower arms. It also doesn't look any more hollow than Classics Astrotrain is considering it seems to transform almost the exact same way. However, I can see why people don't like the hand/foot design but I like it.

I really don't see what more people would want out of these. It they did any more to them they'd have to sell the deluxes at voyager prices and the voyagers at ultra prices. That won't work at all for Hasbro. People seem to think that they can just load up on big box figures but they can't because of how brick and mortar stores work their shelving spaces out. They'd never be able to sell two combiners at eight voyagers and two ultra/leader/weaponizers/whateverthey'recallednow. They just don't have the same luxuries that third party companies have but at the same time they have more in other areas. It's just that the less luxuries they have mean that they can't get every single figure perfect every single time. Some shortcuts and cost cutting measures need to be taken in order for Hasbro to continue to do anything. The funny thing though is that I don't see many cost cutting measures with these new combiner wars figures. They really do look great.

Are people still just hating on this guy simply because he's not Slingshot? Get over it already. Hasbro has every right to change and evolve their brand and characters. If you want a Superion that looks 100% like G1 Superion, then just buy yourself a G1 Superion already and shut up about it already. I typed it on another site and someone typed something similar here as well that one of the reasons they've changed one jet into a helicopter and one car into an suv was because parents, the main people buying these, won't understand or want to buy four almost identical toys just for one combiner they might not even know or care about. It's also why they're not selling complete combiner teams at the same time. They're changing the alt modes and colors up enough to make them more appealing on the shelves. They have to think of these as standalone figures because of how their main buyers think. They seemed to have learned their lesson from the movies where they were selling the same alt modes, colors and names every wave and they weren't selling at all by the time the third movie came out. Parents were just tired of buying what they thought was the same toys over and over and over and over and over again.

It's called an opinion mate.

I loved G1 and if they make classics versions i want them to be as close as possible. A team of planes with one helicopter makes no sense to me.

The figures look bland compared to much of the other classic figures. As i see it, there is a lot of room for detail, painted or sculpted. The hollow parts just look awful and most if not all have them.

I just think Hasbro could have done a much better job with these.

The way I see it what we're getting now is pretty much in line with original Classics and I'm perfectly fine with that. As pointed out, Alpha Bravo's transformation is close to Astrotrain's while Dragstrip isn't that far off from Hot Rod. Yes, they're a step back from the puzzlebots we were used to for a while, but they aren't outside of what we've seen in CHUG in the past. And they're definitely a huge leap forwards from the FoC Combaticons.

Got to thinking, the upcoming Hot Spot and Onslaught figures will probably share the same basic molds.

Emerje

I'm not seeing how these are all that simple and lack articulation. Only thing they could add to me would be wrist swivels, maybe forearm but that's being picky. I am holding off on Superion but Menasor is my favorite combiner so I am really happy with the first figures from CW. Alpha Bravo looks pretty sweet though and when he is repainted as Vortex he is bought, even Blast-Off if that happens.I don't own any 3rd party combiners as they are too expensive for me. I'm not against 3rd party stuff though I have a Sharkticon and almost bought Code/Function/Chromedome or whatever his name was before they announced TFCC IDW Chromedome.

alpha bravo? wtf?

Something seems off about the helicopter mode, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Missing wings or something?
Looking too much like it's trying to also be a space shuttle?
Too back heavy, with what are rather clearly the robot arms sticking out back there right next to the large stabilizer-wing things?

Couldnt they just take off those rockets from the forearms and stick on a pair of wings onto the same piece of forearm then remove the rotor blades?

robotmel wrote::-?

Couldnt they just take off those rockets from the forearms and stick on a pair of wings onto the same piece of forearm then remove the rotor blades?

That's probably the plan for Blast Off.

And again, why aren't releasing the whole lineup at once instead of this wave crap?

Four Aerialbots and one Stunticon. Oh, you want to combine them? Sorry, gotta wait five months for the next wave, that's if stores decide to carry them.

IS there any, ANy reason they don't relace the whole line at once so that people can buy them all at once instead of 3-5 figures that will then shelfwarm because everyone that wanted a figure already bought those 3?

RiddlerJ wrote:And again, why aren't releasing the whole lineup at once instead of this wave crap?

Four Aerialbots and one Stunticon. Oh, you want to combine them? Sorry, gotta wait five months for the next wave, that's if stores decide to carry them.

IS there any, ANy reason they don't relace the whole line at once so that people can buy them all at once instead of 3-5 figures that will then shelfwarm because everyone that wanted a figure already bought those 3?

Probably for variety's sake. Two Jets, a helicopter and a car looks better on the shelves than nothing but either cars or jets. Boring lines don't sell, they think.

DMSL wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:

DMSL wrote:I am sorry but Alpha Bravo gets no love from me. The alt mode just annoys the crap out of me. I still don't like this whole line either. The idea is awesome but the execution is poor. I don't understand why Hasbro is taking a step back and making less articulated figures with simplistic transformations. On top of that they lack detail and paint aps all over and have way too many hollow parts. The combined hand/foot is also not doing it for me.

Lol what? The alt mode looks rather good actually, it's just lacking landing gear. How exactly is the execution poor? Where are people getting that these are somehow less articulated? It has a head swivel at the very least, it also has ball jointed hips and shoulders, swivels at the biceps and thighs, hinges at the knees and elbows and waist rotation. It seems to me that compared to standard deluxe figures, it has one more point of articulation and that being the waist joint and EVERY limb bot will have that. The combined modes have universal shoulders and hips, bicep swivels, double jointed elbows, wrist swivels, thumb and slight hand articulation, knee hinges and possibly thigh and waist swivels depending on the torso.

Hasbro has been doing simplified transformation for a few years now so that's nothing new. Where do you see it lacking in detail? Both robot mode and helicopter mode seem to have plenty of detail throughout. It also has a lot of paint on it. More than I've seen in a while on a deluxe actually. The entire chest is painted that color, the head and eyes are painted, the multitude of windows on the cockpit are all painted as is the underside and lets not forget the blue stripes on the sides and the missiles if they're not a separate piece to the lower arms. It also doesn't look any more hollow than Classics Astrotrain is considering it seems to transform almost the exact same way. However, I can see why people don't like the hand/foot design but I like it.

I really don't see what more people would want out of these. It they did any more to them they'd have to sell the deluxes at voyager prices and the voyagers at ultra prices. That won't work at all for Hasbro. People seem to think that they can just load up on big box figures but they can't because of how brick and mortar stores work their shelving spaces out. They'd never be able to sell two combiners at eight voyagers and two ultra/leader/weaponizers/whateverthey'recallednow. They just don't have the same luxuries that third party companies have but at the same time they have more in other areas. It's just that the less luxuries they have mean that they can't get every single figure perfect every single time. Some shortcuts and cost cutting measures need to be taken in order for Hasbro to continue to do anything. The funny thing though is that I don't see many cost cutting measures with these new combiner wars figures. They really do look great.

Are people still just hating on this guy simply because he's not Slingshot? Get over it already. Hasbro has every right to change and evolve their brand and characters. If you want a Superion that looks 100% like G1 Superion, then just buy yourself a G1 Superion already and shut up about it already. I typed it on another site and someone typed something similar here as well that one of the reasons they've changed one jet into a helicopter and one car into an suv was because parents, the main people buying these, won't understand or want to buy four almost identical toys just for one combiner they might not even know or care about. It's also why they're not selling complete combiner teams at the same time. They're changing the alt modes and colors up enough to make them more appealing on the shelves. They have to think of these as standalone figures because of how their main buyers think. They seemed to have learned their lesson from the movies where they were selling the same alt modes, colors and names every wave and they weren't selling at all by the time the third movie came out. Parents were just tired of buying what they thought was the same toys over and over and over and over and over again.

It's called an opinion mate.

I loved G1 and if they make classics versions i want them to be as close as possible. A team of planes with one helicopter makes no sense to me.

The figures look bland compared to much of the other classic figures. As i see it, there is a lot of room for detail, painted or sculpted. The hollow parts just look awful and most if not all have them.

I just think Hasbro could have done a much better job with these.

Except that most of what you typed wasn't an opinion and where it was I addressed it as such.

Where is it stated that the Aerialbots are a team of planes? They're not called the Airplanebots. Again, this is Hasbro taking their characters and intellectual properties and expanding upon and evolving them. Aerialbots could mean anything that takes flight. They could make Airaid a flying saucer, Fireflight a bomber like Scourge or Megatron and Slingshot the Goodyear blimp and it will still work. I can understand loving the originals but to hate on something because it's new, different or reimagined makes no sense to me. Do you also hate Generations Scourge because he's not a flying boat? What about Classics Astrotrain, he's not a steam engine anymore. How about every Megatron other than Classics and the legends class Megatron, none of them are guns.

Finally an opinion. While they might look bland to you they look completely on par with every Classics, Universe or Generations figure that they're meant to go with to me. In fact, I think they look better than most of the Generations figures as of late.

As I already pointed out, there is a lot of paint on Alpha Bravo. The other figures look to have a lot of paint on them as well. Maybe not Dragstrip but from what I can see, almost all of the other do. Also, what hollow parts? If you were talking about Jetfire I would agree with you somewhat but not these other figures. However, even Classics Jetfire had huge hollow cavities on his arms when you took his launchers off but nobody seemed to mind it back then. Sure the new Jetfire's thighs and biceps have hollow spaces but so do countless other Transformers over the years. Looking at a few figures in front of me right now I can say that first edition Bulkhead has quite a few hollow parts yet it's considered to be one of the best Transformers. Generations Straxus has the same hollow thighs and biceps as most figures do now as well as hollow calves. PRID Wheeljack has the same thigh and bicep problems. PRID Kup/Ironhide has many gap problems all over as well. What about Classics Sideswipe/Sunstreaker? Classics Prowl/Smokescreen/Silverstreak and Ironhide/Ratchet are just as bad. Classics Hot Rod and Starscream also have empty forearms and gap problems in their chests and other spots just as some of the newer figures do. This isn't a new problem. It's been here for years and isn't going away. If they were to make all these gaps go away then the prices would skyrocket as they'd need more plastic and engineering. If Hasbro had it's own store with it's own pricing and shelving then they might just get rid of some of these problems but stores like Walmart want things to be certain prices and those things have to go in certain places only which is another reason that some figures have hollow parts and less paints and detailing than others. These new figures also don't look to have any less sculpted detail than any of the figures I mentioned and even more paint than most of them as well.

You might think that they needed to do a better job but from as far as I can tell from my collection over the past few decades, they're spot on. Completely in line with what Hasbro has been doing back before people complained so much. Before the overpriced, over engineered third party figures.

RiddlerJ wrote:And again, why aren't releasing the whole lineup at once instead of this wave crap?

Four Aerialbots and one Stunticon. Oh, you want to combine them? Sorry, gotta wait five months for the next wave, that's if stores decide to carry them.

IS there any, ANy reason they don't relace the whole line at once so that people can buy them all at once instead of 3-5 figures that will then shelfwarm because everyone that wanted a figure already bought those 3?

Peg space. With most stores having room for only one or two pegs for a line (Generations, movie lines, one step changers, etc.) and only room for maybe four or five per peg. Odds are there's not enough room for them all at once.

Plus if you ship a case with all ten and someone buys the other components, you're screwed if they don't restock regularly.

Hmm, I like him. He's basically Slingshot except a helicopter instead of a Harrier. As much as I love the Harrier, I don't mind the alt mode change.

Also, am I the only one who intends to mix and match limbs between teams (in the same faction of course) and come up with crazy anime-style names for the combos in the process?

Alpha Weltall wrote:
Except that most of what you typed wasn't an opinion and where it was I addressed it as such.

Where is it stated that the Aerialbots are a team of planes? They're not called the Airplanebots. Again, this is Hasbro taking their characters and intellectual properties and expanding upon and evolving them. Aerialbots could mean anything that takes flight. They could make Airaid a flying saucer, Fireflight a bomber like Scourge or Megatron and Slingshot the Goodyear blimp and it will still work. I can understand loving the originals but to hate on something because it's new, different or reimagined makes no sense to me. Do you also hate Generations Scourge because he's not a flying boat? What about Classics Astrotrain, he's not a steam engine anymore. How about every Megatron other than Classics and the legends class Megatron, none of them are guns.

Finally an opinion. While they might look bland to you they look completely on par with every Classics, Universe or Generations figure that they're meant to go with to me. In fact, I think they look better than most of the Generations figures as of late.

As I already pointed out, there is a lot of paint on Alpha Bravo. The other figures look to have a lot of paint on them as well. Maybe not Dragstrip but from what I can see, almost all of the other do. Also, what hollow parts? If you were talking about Jetfire I would agree with you somewhat but not these other figures. However, even Classics Jetfire had huge hollow cavities on his arms when you took his launchers off but nobody seemed to mind it back then. Sure the new Jetfire's thighs and biceps have hollow spaces but so do countless other Transformers over the years. Looking at a few figures in front of me right now I can say that first edition Bulkhead has quite a few hollow parts yet it's considered to be one of the best Transformers. Generations Straxus has the same hollow thighs and biceps as most figures do now as well as hollow calves. PRID Wheeljack has the same thigh and bicep problems. PRID Kup/Ironhide has many gap problems all over as well. What about Classics Sideswipe/Sunstreaker? Classics Prowl/Smokescreen/Silverstreak and Ironhide/Ratchet are just as bad. Classics Hot Rod and Starscream also have empty forearms and gap problems in their chests and other spots just as some of the newer figures do. This isn't a new problem. It's been here for years and isn't going away. If they were to make all these gaps go away then the prices would skyrocket as they'd need more plastic and engineering. If Hasbro had it's own store with it's own pricing and shelving then they might just get rid of some of these problems but stores like Walmart want things to be certain prices and those things have to go in certain places only which is another reason that some figures have hollow parts and less paints and detailing than others. These new figures also don't look to have any less sculpted detail than any of the figures I mentioned and even more paint than most of them as well.

You might think that they needed to do a better job but from as far as I can tell from my collection over the past few decades, they're spot on. Completely in line with what Hasbro has been doing back before people complained so much. Before the overpriced, over engineered third party figures.

You miss the point of a forum.

If you don't like reading an opinion of someone else maybe you should not visit any? I don't want to start a discussion like you are doing right now. You don't have to talk me over i already made up my mind.

In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go. It looks odd to have one helicopter in the midst of this group.

To me all these look very plain (no pun intended). In comparison to say the classic seekers, they had more detail and paint apps than these. If you look at the pictures that we have already seen of these figures you will notice a lot of hollow parts. Like with all transformers there are bound to be some hollow areas because of transformation, but there is no reason for parts to be hollow if there is nothing that goes into them while you transform it. On the seekers you needed the open forearms to be able to store the hands in them, but there is no reason to have open areas in legs and the back of arms in these figures. If Hasbro does this to save on cash they should consider making their packaging more compact that would be more cost effective. Also on these Aerialbots they could have used the same basic body mold and then added the wings and such. Yet again more cost effective than hollowing out the figures.

Delta Magnus wrote:Hmm, I like him. He's basically Slingshot except a helicopter instead of a Harrier. As much as I love the Harrier, I don't mind the alt mode change.

Also, am I the only one who intends to mix and match limbs between teams (in the same faction of course) and come up with crazy anime-style names for the combos in the process?

Japan beat you to it Look up Comperian and Autobot Super Scramble on TFWiki.

Delta Magnus wrote:Hmm, I like him. He's basically Slingshot except a helicopter instead of a Harrier. As much as I love the Harrier, I don't mind the alt mode change.

Also, am I the only one who intends to mix and match limbs between teams (in the same faction of course) and come up with crazy anime-style names for the combos in the process?

Sounds like fun.

King Crusher! Air Hero Five! Vandal Punk! God Ventus!

DMSL wrote:In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go.

This is not G1. Slingshot is dead.

Alpha Bravo is an okay looking toy.

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go.

This is not G1. Slingshot is dead.

To be fair, Issue what was it 33, never explicitly stated slingshot was dead, just that there's a very very good chance he's incredibly irrecoverable dead.

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go.

This is not G1. Slingshot is dead.

To be fair, not everyone (apparently) reads RID, so they don't see where Alpha Bravo came from as a replacement.

Worse comes to worse, those that REALLY want Slingshot on the team can probably repurpose an extra of one of the others and paint/get him repainted. As far as we know, Slingshot isn't coming officially in this line, so we'll have to make do.

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go.

This is not G1. Slingshot is dead.

Slingshot is dead. Long live Alpha Bravo!

[And seriously, none of the haters are hating on Powerglide as the 6th member of the team? Surprising...]

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go.

This is not G1. Slingshot is dead.

Slingshot is dead. Long live Alpha Bravo!

[And seriously, none of the haters are hating on Powerglide as the 6th member of the team? Surprising...]

Well he's been around the block for a long time as the Autobot's original flier, so that probably helps.

"And AWAAAY WE GO!"

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go.

This is not G1. Slingshot is dead.

Slingshot is dead. Long live Alpha Bravo!

[And seriously, none of the haters are hating on Powerglide as the 6th member of the team? Surprising...]

Well, he was around back when it all began as the Autobot's original flier, so that probably helps.

"And AWAAAY WE GO!"

Shuttershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go.

This is not G1. Slingshot is dead.

To be fair, not everyone (apparently) reads RID, so they don't see where Alpha Bravo came from as a replacement.

That's what the pack-in comic issues are for.

He'll always be Slingshot to me. I thought Combiner Wars was a separate continuity from the "mainline" IDW comics anyway?

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

DMSL wrote:In G1 the Aerialbots were all planes, there you go.

This is not G1. Slingshot is dead.

To be fair, not everyone (apparently) reads RID, so they don't see where Alpha Bravo came from as a replacement.

That's what the pack-in comic issues are for.

I could see that working if they give AB RID #33 and label it issue 1 of the combiner wars subline.