Transformers Bumblebee Movie Promotion at CineEurope 2018, Plus Plot Rumours #BumblebeeMovie

william-james88 wrote:

thedistinctroom wrote:I'm trying to wrap my head around this... So, it's a prequel to the Bay-Verse movies... Yet, it's also the reboot of a completely separate new movie series?

So... Isn't this still a Bay-Verse movie then? Hmmmm.

Depends how you define a bay verse movie. If it stands on its own, independent of the rest, with characters looking almost nothing like they appear in other films, and with limited explosions (as it seems to be the case), is it still a Bay-Verse movie?

At this point its baiscally the same as saying that the FOC/WFC games takes place in the same universe as the recent RID TV show.

“That was probably the most hotly contested thing, simply because: ‘Wow …. um, and the Beetle can go fast? Ooookay,’” di Bonaventura says. “But I’ve screened [a rough cut] three times, and there has not been a single comment from the audience that they didn’t like the fact that we made it the Beetle. The warmth of it certainly helps us, but also, the sheer freshness of it is really fun.”

That shape creates the sense of an under dog, which is a good thing for a hero who is in a strange world, all by himself, trying to find a way home.

“Psychologically, you’re absolutely right,” di Bonaventura says. “It’s kind of funny. A metal guy made out of a Camaro, or Bumblebee … is one is weaker than the other? I don’t know, but it is how you feel. It is what your experience is of it, in a way.”

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“It’s nice it’s changing,” di Bonaventura says, acknowledging that the Transformers films haven’t exactly delivered strong roles for women. “When we were debating it, the idea of a young girl seemed to us to be a real change in our direction.”

And Steinfeld proved to be the fearsome flesh-and-blood lead they needed. “I’m just amazed at how talented she is,” di Bonaventura says. “I don’t think I’ve ever seen an actor never miss a beat for the entire shoot. It was crazy. We ended up ahead of schedule because she was just so on it all the time. We could move quicker.”

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Another change was reducing the sheer number of robots-in-disguise featured in this movie. That allowed screenwriter Christina Hodson to focus on the bond between Charlie and Bumblebee and tell a coming-of-age story at the heart of this epic action adventure.

“She wrote a really beautiful script that really played into the emotion of the relationship of the two,” di Bonaventura says. “So looking at the movie from that perspective, we thought, we don’t want to overwhelm one Autobot with too many Decepticons. So he has three primary antagonists.”

Two others, who take the form of automobiles, are also being kept secret for now.

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Right now, Bumblebee has to pull off his own film, though.

“If Bee’s successful, we can have a Bee 2, no doubt,” di Bonaventura. “We have a good sense of where a second movie would go. For me, the greatest thing that came out of the writer’s room was the sense that we could go in any number of directions. It opened up our minds to choices.”

1984forever wrote:Transformers fans

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:Transformers fans

You do NOT speak for all the fans, so don't presume you know what us "Transformers fans" do and don't want.

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:Transformers fans

You do NOT speak for all the fans, so don't presume you know what us "Transformers fans" do and don't want.

ZeroWolf wrote:But what if the fans who do want this, spend more money then you? Plus what ever contribution you or I make is dwarfed by the international markets, like China. You don't have as much sway as you think you do. Though you also didn't deal with burns main objection, which is you only speak for yourself, no one else.

1984forever wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:But what if the fans who do want this, spend more money then you? Plus what ever contribution you or I make is dwarfed by the international markets, like China. You don't have as much sway as you think you do. Though you also didn't deal with burns main objection, which is you only speak for yourself, no one else.

I don’t only speak for myself because many fans have been very vocal about the amount of screen time the humans get and the desire to see different TFs in the sequels. TLK underperformed, and I will not be surprised when BB underperforms as well in the U.S. and ESPECIALLY abroad. I’ll be back next year to say “I told you so.”

ZeroWolf wrote:

1984forever wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:But what if the fans who do want this, spend more money then you? Plus what ever contribution you or I make is dwarfed by the international markets, like China. You don't have as much sway as you think you do. Though you also didn't deal with burns main objection, which is you only speak for yourself, no one else.

I don’t only speak for myself because many fans have been very vocal about the amount of screen time the humans get and the desire to see different TFs in the sequels. TLK underperformed, and I will not be surprised when BB underperforms as well in the U.S. and ESPECIALLY abroad. I’ll be back next year to say “I told you so.”

No you agree with other fans views but you don't speak for all of them. This is just your opinion. To speak for the fans you would have to be some kind of democratically elected spokeperson.

Also, what would you do if bb actually performs well? It's certainly not out of the realm of the impossible, it's got a smaller budget for starters and the director has a lot going for him.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Female roles are fantastic and all, but what’s wrong with the audience making a connection to the actual Cybertronians, making them real and likeable characters facing the heavy weight of the war? These movies would do so much more if the transformers were more than war machines.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Female roles are fantastic and all, but what’s wrong with the audience making a connection to the actual Cybertronians, making them real and likeable characters facing the heavy weight of the war? These movies would do so much more if the transformers were more than war machines.

1984forever wrote:If it does well then I'll eat my words on a silicon wafer.

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:If it does well then I'll eat my words on a silicon wafer.

You willing to put your loud mouth to the test?

You've got three warnings there. They can disappear.

I'm still waiting on a shiney new Metroplex from the last fool to run his mouth and bet against me.

You in?

1984forever wrote:of course I'm in. And I'm not like whoever owes you a Metroplex, I pay my debts bro.

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:of course I'm in. And I'm not like whoever owes you a Metroplex, I pay my debts bro.

Cool cool ... but a shiny new Metroplex may be hard to find these days, so I'll settle for a shiny new PotP Predaking should I win. Should you win, your current three warnings go bye bye.

I guess now we need to decide what defines "performs well".

william-james88 wrote:

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:of course I'm in. And I'm not like whoever owes you a Metroplex, I pay my debts bro.

Cool cool ... but a shiny new Metroplex may be hard to find these days, so I'll settle for a shiny new PotP Predaking should I win. Should you win, your current three warnings go bye bye.

I guess now we need to decide what defines "performs well".

A movie needs to do at least double what it cost to make to break even. So, knowing this, how about four times the cost of the film? In total. The investors will surely think that is performing well, so we should too. This would mean a total of 400 million.

Sabrblade wrote:What about critical acclaim? A bad movie can still be a commercial success by making a lot of money (case in point: ROTF). I'd think this film would also need positive reviews from audiences and critics alike to enhance the wellness of its performance.

william-james88 wrote:A movie needs to do at least double what it cost to make to break even. So, knowing this, how about four times the cost of the film? In total. The investors will surely think that is performing well, so we should too. This would mean a total of 400 million.

ZeroWolf wrote:I would say in total, so domestic and international.

ZeroWolf wrote:I would say in total, so domestic and international.

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:Transformers fans

You do NOT speak for all the fans, so don't presume you know what us "Transformers fans" do and don't want.

Aimless Misfire wrote:

Burn wrote:

1984forever wrote:Transformers fans

You do NOT speak for all the fans, so don't presume you know what us "Transformers fans" do and don't want.

I'm with 1984forever. Transformers is plural. As in a crap ton of characters. We don't need a stupid movie that revolves around just 1 Transformer. We all have our favorite characters but they've been shoving this little yellow jerk down our throats for 11 years now. It needs to STOP!

And this movie has Bumblebee totally out of character. The Autobot Bumblebee would not be cowering the corner like a friggin Care Bear who's scared of a little human girl. What is that about??? Who's the idiot that thought that was a good idea? This looks like a preschool Rescue Bots movie aimed at little girls. They won't be getting any money from me.

Before The Last Knight or the Age of Extinction, before Decepticons started leveling American cities and destroying military bases, a yellow Volkswagen Beetle sits forgotten in a California junkyard. It’s been neglected long enough that a honeycomb of bees buzzes beneath its wheel well. Seventeen-year-old Charlie (Hailee Steinfeld), takes it home.

She gets more than a car. As Charlie slides beneath her new ride to inspect it, the bug erupts in an intricate flipping puzzle of zinging metal parts, rearranging itself into beloved Autobot Bumblebee.

“Let me tell you something, the driver don’t pick the car, the car pick the driver,” a hauntingly familiar voice-over – it’s the late Bernie Mac, warning Sam Wtiwicky (Shia LaBeouf) in 2007’s Transformers – announces at the trailer’s opening moments. “It’s a mystical bond between man and machine.”

In this case, it’s woman and machine (and a woman, Christina Hodson, wrote the script), but the bond between Charlie and Bumblebee looks as strong as any.

The two become great pals. They go to the beach. They go swimming. Charlie goes no-hands through the sunroof down the Pacific Coast Highway, perhaps pioneering the self-driving car in the film’s 1987 setting.

But things get hectic. The military lurks. So does a dreaded Decepticon. Charlie gets banged up. Helicopters fall from the sky.

The film, helmed by Oscar-nominated Kubo and the Two Strings director Travis Knight, promises to wrap this action in a powerful story informed by the Transformers’ heritage. “I wanted to return to the essences of what made the Transformers franchise so impactful right from the beginning: character, emotion, spectacle,” Knight told attendees at April’s CinemaCon.

Which is not to say that echoes of Paramount Pictures’ five previous Transformers films won’t ricochet off the screen. “… and explosions,” Knight continued, “lots and lots of explosions.”

“… and explosions,” Knight continued, “lots and lots of explosions.”

Seibertron wrote:They had me until

“… and explosions,” Knight continued, “lots and lots of explosions.”

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So long as we get Nitro Zeus back.

Shuttershock wrote:

Seibertron wrote:They had me until

“… and explosions,” Knight continued, “lots and lots of explosions.”

Well, as long as it’s not more fireworks-burst explosions. For some reason those really annoyed me in the past. Like, it just LOOKS like a cheap effect at a stunt show.

Sabrblade wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:So long as we get Nitro Zeus back.

He's not in this movie.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Now that I’m looking at it, the mouth area does kinda resemble our established movie Starscream’s mouth.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Being honest, the explosions don't bother me at all. It's a movie about giant robots, afterall. Other than the Iron Giant, ALL giant robot movies need explosions!

Besides, if the writing is better, the explosions won't matter. So long as we get Nitro Zeus back.

dragons wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Being honest, the explosions don't bother me at all. It's a movie about giant robots, afterall. Other than the Iron Giant, ALL giant robot movies need explosions!

Besides, if the writing is better, the explosions won't matter. So long as we get Nitro Zeus back.

If that’s all you will be looking for in movies from now on you should be sticking with books for better writing Shakespeare’s , transformers books, you want to be entertained for two hours forget about real world watch movie if your going to be picky about movies from now stick with books,

Seibertron wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Now that I’m looking at it, the mouth area does kinda resemble our established movie Starscream’s mouth.

It does? I don't see it at all.

william-james88 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Now that I’m looking at it, the mouth area does kinda resemble our established movie Starscream’s mouth.

It does? I don't see it at all.

Neither do I but regardless, we never see his face fully transformed since it keeps moving before they cut to something else. I am guessing it will be a more streamlined mouth and face.