Transformers: Age of Extinction Power Attackers Figures Revealed
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Posted by Noideaforaname on November 30th, 2013 @ 1:34pm CST
Bumblebee looks like every other Bumblebee (and reeeeeeeeeally simple), and "Duke" almost looks human. How does he transform? Turn inside out?
I really hope these are Cyberverse, and not Deluxes...
Posted by Mindmaster on November 30th, 2013 @ 1:38pm CST
That third image is obviously Hound. But how come he, along with Two-Head, are labeled Duke and Paulie?
Posted by Noideaforaname on November 30th, 2013 @ 1:41pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:They look more like Fast Action Battlers than Legends or Deluxes.
I remember saying that about DotM Voyager Optimus Prime.
That third image is obviously Hound. But how come he, along with Two-Head, are labeled Duke and Paulie?
To combat leaks, I assume. DotM concept art labeled Megatron as "Cyclonus" for that reason.
Posted by RhA on November 30th, 2013 @ 1:53pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on November 30th, 2013 @ 2:01pm CST
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ys-178866/
Posted by Va'al on November 30th, 2013 @ 2:19pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:Apparently, Two-Head/Paulie's actual name is "Strafe", or at least that's what TFW2005's saying.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ys-178866/
Modified the post a little. Also, don't always believe TFW2005.
Posted by Mindmaster on November 30th, 2013 @ 2:20pm CST
Va'al wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Apparently, Two-Head/Paulie's actual name is "Strafe", or at least that's what TFW2005's saying.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ys-178866/
Modified the post a little. Also, don't always believe TFW2005.
That's why I said, "or at least that's what TFW2005's saying.".
Posted by Va'al on November 30th, 2013 @ 2:25pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:Va'al wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Apparently, Two-Head/Paulie's actual name is "Strafe", or at least that's what TFW2005's saying.
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... ys-178866/
Modified the post a little. Also, don't always believe TFW2005.
That's why I said, "or at least that's what TFW2005's saying.".
Posted by Rated X on November 30th, 2013 @ 2:25pm CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on November 30th, 2013 @ 2:28pm CST
Posted by sabrigami on November 30th, 2013 @ 3:05pm CST
Posted by RodimalToyota on November 30th, 2013 @ 3:55pm CST
That's just dumb.
Posted by SlyTF1 on November 30th, 2013 @ 4:12pm CST
RodimalToyota wrote:Only in Michael Bay's mind can he tell us that boxy vehicles can't be / aren't realistic looking for movies, then make robots with facial hair.
That's just dumb.
And why can't they have facial hair?
Posted by Mindmaster on November 30th, 2013 @ 4:14pm CST
SlyTF1 wrote:RodimalToyota wrote:Only in Michael Bay's mind can he tell us that boxy vehicles can't be / aren't realistic looking for movies, then make robots with facial hair.
That's just dumb.
And why can't they have facial hair?
I think what he's trying to say is that if boxy vehicles aren't realistic enough, then why make robots with facial hair (ex: Jetfire and Sentinel Prime).
Posted by SlyTF1 on November 30th, 2013 @ 4:17pm CST
Mindmaster wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:RodimalToyota wrote:Only in Michael Bay's mind can he tell us that boxy vehicles can't be / aren't realistic looking for movies, then make robots with facial hair.
That's just dumb.
And why can't they have facial hair?
I think what he's trying to say is that if boxy vehicles aren't realistic enough, then why make robots with facial hair (ex: Jetfire and Sentinel Prime).
Because they can have facial hair. Vehicle parts (or fiber optics, or whatever) coming together to form something that resembles facial hair is a lot more realistic than cars that transform into a series of boxes.
Posted by TimothyR on November 30th, 2013 @ 4:22pm CST
Posted by RodimalToyota on November 30th, 2013 @ 4:41pm CST
SlyTF1 wrote:Mindmaster wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:RodimalToyota wrote:Only in Michael Bay's mind can he tell us that boxy vehicles can't be / aren't realistic looking for movies, then make robots with facial hair.
That's just dumb.
And why can't they have facial hair?
I think what he's trying to say is that if boxy vehicles aren't realistic enough, then why make robots with facial hair (ex: Jetfire and Sentinel Prime).
Because they can have facial hair. Vehicle parts (or fiber optics, or whatever) coming together to form something that resembles facial hair is a lot more realistic than cars that transform into a series of boxes.
Uh.. Wat?
Because they can? Yeah that's a relevant answer.
I'm not going to debate what's more "realistic" about Alien
Robot transformers in fiction.
It's just dumb.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on November 30th, 2013 @ 5:54pm CST
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on November 30th, 2013 @ 6:29pm CST
However something still leaves me frustrated, the movies try to create extremely complex designs despite the need to make simple toys. The bastard results are often disappointing. I say that the need for simplicity should inform the design process. What we have seems lazy and poorly thought out.
As for the future of simplicity, does anyone else think that they should be doing something closer to Fansproject's Retro Future theme? Modern engineering, interesting gimmicks, however simple in it's execution. If they're trying to replicate G1, why aren't they looking at those toys and simply trying to improve those concepts with modern knowledge. What they're doing is just taking ridiculously complex designs and trying to reduce them to a 5 year old's comprehension. It just doesn't work well. Any ideas?
Posted by primematrix1986 on November 30th, 2013 @ 6:59pm CST
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on November 30th, 2013 @ 7:08pm CST
welcometothedarksyde wrote:However something still leaves me frustrated, the movies try to create extremely complex designs despite the need to make simple toys. The bastard results are often disappointing. I say that the need for simplicity should inform the design process.
And therein lies the problem.
With the first movie, you can see that the designers actually made an effort to ensure that the TF's at least looked as if they really do transform into vehicles. Those red boxlike things below OP's chest actually do exist on a Peterbilt truck if you remove the hood.
And during the TF1 and ROTF era, Hasbro was also able/willing to accommodate the complex designs by upping the complexity, especially in the case of ROTF. For the reasons you mentioned (catering to an increasingly younger market) they did a 180 starting from DOTM and made the toys increasingly simpler.
The problem is, the movie designers kept increasing the complexity, regardless. If you noticed in DOTM, Megatron and the Dreads (all of whom actually have Earth modes) hardly had any car parts on them, besides tires.
NOTE: I have absolutely no problem with the AOE designs as CGI models in a movie, but those designs are probably not going to translate well into screen-accurate toys.
Hopefully, though, we'll be pleasantly surprised when the actual toys are finally released. Just not holding my breath is all.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 30th, 2013 @ 7:59pm CST
Codename -> Real name
Thunderlips = Slug
Southpaw = Scorn
Ivan = Grimlock
Max = Lockdown
Bruce = Drift
Paulie = Strafe
Rocky = Slash
Duke = Hound
Adrian = Galvatron
Posted by Mindmaster on November 30th, 2013 @ 8:43pm CST
Va'al, you owe me a Starscream figure.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 30th, 2013 @ 8:53pm CST
Posted by autobot1979 on November 30th, 2013 @ 9:05pm CST
And about the complexity of the toys , I particularly love complex toys for how difficult to transfo4m more interesting so then, if AOE be an ease collection, I wont be expending my money on it.
Posted by RodimalToyota on November 30th, 2013 @ 10:25pm CST
It's absurd. Just like making lead foot fat. It's just a way of using Stereotyping that's not needed
If someone actually wrote a good story.
Posted by Noideaforaname on November 30th, 2013 @ 10:39pm CST
Posted by No One on November 30th, 2013 @ 11:39pm CST
Posted by Flashwave on December 1st, 2013 @ 1:07am CST
Posted by Dead Metal on December 1st, 2013 @ 5:02am CST
These are either the new Deluxe Class or the return of the FABs: The Fast Action Battlers.
They kinda look OK, both "Hound" and "Strafe" look like they could be decent figures if given better treatment.
Sabrblade wrote:Strafe makes sense in a way since G1 Strafe was a twin-headed jet and this is essentially the dinobot equivalent of such.
Which is just dumb, why bother making five Dinobots, and then replacing the flying one with a two-headed dragon thing as a homage to a jet based character?
What, is a one headed Pterosaur too unbelievable for audiences to accept?
Posted by Sabrblade on December 1st, 2013 @ 5:11am CST
I think we're getting much more than five Dinobots this time around.Dead Metal wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Strafe makes sense in a way since G1 Strafe was a twin-headed jet and this is essentially the dinobot equivalent of such.
Which is just dumb, why bother making five Dinobots, and then replacing the flying one with a two-headed dragon thing as a homage to a jet based character?
What, is a one headed Pterosaur too unbelievable for audiences to accept?
Based on the previous toy listings, it sounds to me like the Dinobots will consist this time of Grimlock, Slug, Slash, Scorn, Strafe, Snarl, Swoop, and perhaps even more.
Posted by Oddimus Prime on December 1st, 2013 @ 5:38am CST
However the fact that these are named "Power Attackers" implies that they are something other than Deluxe or Cyberverse.
Posted by Cyborgraptor on December 1st, 2013 @ 2:47pm CST
Posted by reluctantyouth on December 2nd, 2013 @ 1:59pm CST
Well that sucks. This confirms that Hound will have that stupid Grizzly Adams beard and a Cigar in the movie. I think it will be a little silly but knew it was coming from the pic posted ages ago of plausible Hound's head on a stick during production. I thought we would have learned from Sentinel and Leadfoot.
Alas...Bayverse knows all...rules all...takes responsibility for nothing.
~reluctantyouth~
Posted by RhA on December 2nd, 2013 @ 2:17pm CST
Posted by GuyIncognito on December 2nd, 2013 @ 3:57pm CST
reluctantyouth wrote:This confirms that Hound will have that stupid Grizzly Adams beard and a Cigar in the movie. I think it will be a little silly but knew it was coming from the pic posted ages ago of plausible Hound's head on a stick during production.
a. I don't see how this blurry pic confirms anything.
b. I don't see how robots with beards and cigars are any sillier than talking alien robots that transform into cars and planes. Should we go back to 1984 and list all the ridiculous things that have appeared in TF cartoons and comics? I think beards and cigars will be minor in comparison. We can start here:
Should we talk about the time the TFs were toys in the bedroom of a giant alien child? Or the time Powerglide rode a carousel? Or the time Hoist went to Hollywood to become a movie actor? When has Transformers NOT had silly stuff in it?
Posted by T-Macksimus on December 2nd, 2013 @ 6:33pm CST
Bumblevivisector wrote:To me it doesn't look like facial hair as much as how early Pretenders' chest armor would come up and obscure part of their face. Landmine would've been a more appropriate fake name for this guy than Duke.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to make the connection between his look and that of the Pretender figures. It was the first thing to come to mind.
Regardless of size and complexity I'm tempted to get the figure based off of these early pics but I may still have to see one in hand before making the final decision. I have a sub-collection going of assault style/military TF figures and while this one may be quite simplified compared to the rest of the figures I have, he may still fit in well with the display I have going.
So far, Hound (and the 67 Camaro 'Bee) is the only thing remotely intriguing to me about the new movie but I'm still waiting to see if they come up with figures for the black off-road/rally cars that we saw early on in the behind the scenes photos. If they come out with those and they are done decently then I'll jump on them too.
Posted by SlyTF1 on December 2nd, 2013 @ 7:59pm CST
reluctantyouth wrote:Grizzly Adams Syndrome...GAWD
Well that sucks. This confirms that Hound will have that stupid Grizzly Adams beard and a Cigar in the movie. I think it will be a little silly but knew it was coming from the pic posted ages ago of plausible Hound's head on a stick during production. I thought we would have learned from Sentinel and Leadfoot.
Alas...Bayverse knows all...rules all...takes responsibility for nothing.
~reluctantyouth~
What was there to learn from Sentinel and Leadfoot? Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 2nd, 2013 @ 8:16pm CST
What? No they don't.SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.
Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.
Compared to Jetfire's, Sentinel's, and Leadfoot's more obvious beards:
Which are awesome, btw.
Posted by Mindmaster on December 2nd, 2013 @ 8:19pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Just now realized Sentinel's beard is braided.
Posted by Noideaforaname on December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:16pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:28pm CST
On that note, G1 Galvatron even tried to choke Hot Rod back in the G1 movie.Noideaforaname wrote:Personally, I find it far stranger that robots that don't need to breathe (they go into space and the bottom of the ocean and all) give the occasional gasp or visible breath or some other hint that they're breathing.
Posted by SlyTF1 on December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:47pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:What? No they don't.SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.
Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.
I still consider them beards.
Noideaforaname wrote:Personally, I find it far stranger that robots that don't need to breathe (they go into space and the bottom of the ocean and all) give the occasional gasp or visible breath or some other hint that they're breathing.
Who says they don't need to breathe? Maybe they just switch on their... oxygen, or whatever they breathe tanks, when they're in an environment where they can't breathe?
Posted by Sabrblade on December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:54pm CST
By that logic, half the cast of Animated are bearded.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What? No they don't.SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.
Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.
I still consider them beards.
Posted by SlyTF1 on December 2nd, 2013 @ 10:57pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:By that logic, half the cast of Animated are bearded.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What? No they don't.SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.
Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.
I still consider them beards.
That's exactly what I think of when I see people complaining about TFs with beards; Animated.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 2nd, 2013 @ 11:02pm CST
Big chin =/= beard, dude.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:By that logic, half the cast of Animated are bearded.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What? No they don't.SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.
Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.
I still consider them beards.
That's exactly what I think of when I see people complaining about TFs with beards; Animated.
Posted by SlyTF1 on December 2nd, 2013 @ 11:41pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Big chin =/= beard, dude.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:By that logic, half the cast of Animated are bearded.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What? No they don't.SlyTF1 wrote:Has anyone not noticed that Optimus and Megatron have beards, too? And no one seems to care.
Those things jutting out below their mouths are their chins.
I still consider them beards.
That's exactly what I think of when I see people complaining about TFs with beards; Animated.
What about the points on the end? I wouldn't say Ratchet or Bumblebee had beards. Bulkhead, either.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 2nd, 2013 @ 11:58pm CST
This article is your friend - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Facial_hairSlyTF1 wrote:What about the points on the end? I wouldn't say Ratchet or Bumblebee had beards. Bulkhead, either.
Posted by No One on December 3rd, 2013 @ 12:30am CST
RhA wrote:...for what should he take responsibility, precisely?
How about CONSTANTLY making Transformers look like jokes? I don't care how much money this series makes, there is absolutely no reason for leg humping, gold teeth slang talking, testicals, canes, and or facial hair.
In 1984, Alpha Trion's and Wreck Gar's hair were three pieces and sort of complimented them. Those were cartoons for kids, not a multi-billion movie series. It was still silly to have hair on them back then. This does not translate well onto these movie figures, it is plain ridiculous. One more way to poke fun at them and make them look hideous from this team.
Posted by No One on December 3rd, 2013 @ 12:35am CST
I am never going to tell anyone I like these movies or that I think these comedic insults to giant waring robots are okay.