Transformers: Age of Extinction (Music from the Motion Picture) - EP Released Via iTunes
Tuesday, July 1st, 2014 1:38AM CDT
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The cover art, which is a rather small image, has been mirrored below:
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According to Steve Jablonsky, himself, this is just a teaser and there's more to come.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... &source=46
Wow, it looks like a lot of you went to see Transformers this weekend Thank you so much for all the love and support. I really appreciate all of the messages.
We have prepared a little score teaser, kind of an appetizer while we finalize the album. Keep an eye on iTunes this week, it should be appearing very soon, or as soon as iTunes decides to go live with it
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Posted by Autobot032 on July 1st, 2014 @ 1:43am CDT
viruscarnage wrote:Autobot032 wrote:viruscarnage wrote:Might be safe to mention that Steve earlier made a post on Facebook saying it's just a teaser album, while the full one is being finalized.
Do you have the link? I can't quote it without proof. Thank you!
I suck at Facebook, so I don't know how to link a post lol. but it's the first post on his page
https://www.facebook.com/SteveJablonskyOfficial
Thank you, got it.
Posted by VirusCarnage on July 1st, 2014 @ 1:46am CDT
Autobot032 wrote:viruscarnage wrote:Autobot032 wrote:viruscarnage wrote:Might be safe to mention that Steve earlier made a post on Facebook saying it's just a teaser album, while the full one is being finalized.
Do you have the link? I can't quote it without proof. Thank you!
I suck at Facebook, so I don't know how to link a post lol. but it's the first post on his page
https://www.facebook.com/SteveJablonskyOfficial
Thank you, got it.
No problem
Posted by LeL on July 1st, 2014 @ 3:34am CDT
Great movie.... hope there is less human action and bot on con footage for the next one (I think Bay is finally getting it)
Posted by VirusCarnage on July 1st, 2014 @ 3:38am CDT
Posted by Sub-Prime on July 1st, 2014 @ 6:41am CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:GallifreyanSeeker wrote:I could talk about the movie for hours. Out of the three Bayverse movies I have seen (RotF, DotM, AoE), this one is my favorite. First of all, on a Transformers movie, the fans' ratings will be more useful than the critics' scores, because lots of what made this movie good was the stuff that only long-time fans would get, such as certain plot elements and character traits.
I liked how AoE was quite a mix of the plot and characters of G1, Animated, and TFP especially. Lockdown was my favorite character and a GREAT addition to the movie. He was so cool! Galvatron was pretty cool, too. Not as cool as he was in G1, but he was Ok. I was so relieved to find out that he was actually going to be, you know, a sentient being after a bit, and I was also happy that Welker voiced him again. Now for the Autobots. I don't have much to say about Crosshairs, Bee or Prime. They were pretty cool, but I will say once again that Bumblebee is possibly the most overrated character in Transformers history. Drift reminded me of Yokitron from Animated, and Hound reminded me of Bulkhead. Oh, yeah. And poor Ratchet! I was disappointed by the Dinobots, though. They got so little screen time and weren't even named, nor did they get any speaking lines! Come on, Bay! They had so much potential!
I liked how we got both Lockdown and the whole cyberforming Earth thing both into the plot, with some suspense. It was a little bit too much of a commercial for the next one, but I'm ready to see TF5 and the Quintessons or whoever appears in TF5. The Dinobots and Galvatron better come back in a good way, too. Did I mention I would happily freak if Cyclonus appeared in the next one? Also, even though this isn't a very Michael Bay thing, I'm just going to introduce the thought of Starscream's Ghost in the next one. Not good, not bad. Just think about that for a minute.
Even though it still has the Bay-like unexplained explosions and somewhat weakly carried out plot, I would still say that overall, this movie was pretty good. It's worth watching.
Why would explosions need to be explained? There are giant alien robots rampaging through the city shooting each other. If that isn't a cause for explosions, I don't know what is.
Thank you! Everybody always jumping on Bay about explosions yet they fail to understand that the Transformers are equipped with "HIGH GRADE WEAPONRY". This isn't a typical war movie folks!
Posted by Sub-Prime on July 1st, 2014 @ 6:45am CDT
viruscarnage wrote:I feel like I'm the only one who actually really enjoyed seeing Optimus like this. I loved Optimus this movie, he actually showed some emotions.
I feel you brother! Prime is my favorite Transformer and I too appreciate him being more emotionally driven in this movie. Some G1 purist will hate him in this but I don't let G1 define him. G1 is more design for kids!
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 1st, 2014 @ 7:18am CDT
viruscarnage wrote:I feel like I'm the only one who actually really enjoyed seeing Optimus like this. I loved Optimus this movie, he actually showed some emotions.
Nope. This movie solidified movie Optimus as my favorite fictional character of all time.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 1st, 2014 @ 7:29am CDT
Posted by griftimus prime on July 1st, 2014 @ 7:39am CDT
Posted by Sub-Prime on July 1st, 2014 @ 7:42am CDT
Posted by TransBat on July 1st, 2014 @ 8:09am CDT
Not sure if this should be appended to the main post, but figure I'd pass this along for those who might not utilize iTunes for their music collection
Posted by Cyberpath on July 1st, 2014 @ 10:33am CDT
Kind of reminds me of how pissed off Optimus Prime was in the awesome "Prime Target" when Lord Chumley kidnapped the Autobots and held them captive in those torture contraptions.
Optimus Prime: "You'd better hope I find them before I find you!"
"Unless you can... do better than that... you're finished, Chumley!"
"If that was your best shot, Chumley, you're in d-e-e-p trouble!"
Posted by MenaceRX on July 1st, 2014 @ 10:39am CDT
The music isnt horrible but the way the audio was laid to the film score is just bad from my first viewing. Hoping it will be better when I get to see it on Blu-Ray in my home on the home theater.
As for the movie it-self story wise I liked it. There were very somber moments like Ratchet and Leadfoot being hunted and torn to scrap. Optimus goes to a dark place. I liked seeing his darker side, that even as optimistic as Optimus Prime is even he doesnt see the good in people any more. Questioning all that he knows. So that was good to see Optimus gain emotional depth, though it sounded audio wise like Cullen wasnt into this with all his heart like previous movies.
I didnt like the voice of Galvatron, it doesnt sound menacing or like something I would fear at all. Needs to be deeper. I get to evolutional change from Megatron sound to Galvatron but it doesnt fit well in my opinion I hope the character evolves to sound more sinister and darker and deeper in sound for the next movie.
The Dinobots being lifeless personality voids was a let down. Wondering what if any part they will have in the next movie, will they gain personality similar to the ones we love from the comics, cartoons and games. I tried to think of it from the perspective that the dinobots will evolve much like the primitive creatures they base their forms from to a more sophisticated set of bots in the coming movie. Their scale was amazing. I only wish they made them like that on the toy side. Make them ultra class with comparison to voyagers.
I dont remember seeing Drift, Crosshairs, or Hound transform during the movie at all, just one minute they are bot, next a car. That is a key issue for me. Transformers implies they you know transform... needs to be shown. I will say Drift going from bot to chopper was awesome.
Also when did Optimus all of a sudden become able to fly? Without all the tech. Its not like he upgraded during the movie. Just re-shell'd from one truck to another.
Anyway enough of that. Watched it once, not good enough to go back to the theater for another round. In the fall it will drop on disc and I will watch it again then in the house without people up nice and loud. Maybe I will grow to love it more then.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 1st, 2014 @ 10:49am CDT
MenaceRX wrote:Also when did Optimus all of a sudden become able to fly? Without all the tech. Its not like he upgraded during the movie.
Yeah, he did. When he pulled the sword out in Lockdown's ship, like King Arthur did Excalibur, you could see some changes. We saw his arms and chest change some, so it's reasonable to say his back changed as well, giving him the jetpack.
Anyway enough of that. Watched it once, not good enough to go back to the theater for another round.
Maybe you should. That way you could pick up on some of the smaller details you missed.
Posted by MenaceRX on July 1st, 2014 @ 11:08am CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 1st, 2014 @ 11:32am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:MenaceRX wrote:Also when did Optimus all of a sudden become able to fly? Without all the tech. Its not like he upgraded during the movie.
Yeah, he did. When he pulled the sword out in Lockdown's ship, like King Arthur did Excalibur, you could see some changes. We saw his arms and chest change some, so it's reasonable to say his back changed as well, giving him the jetpack.Anyway enough of that. Watched it once, not good enough to go back to the theater for another round.
Maybe you should. That way you could pick up on some of the smaller details you missed.
See, that's the problem. People expect to just watch the movie once and be able to understand everything upon first viewing. That's why I like these movies. Every time I watch one, I notice things I didn't before. The "replay" value is always astonishing.
When I first watched AOE, I could understand how someone who wasn't paying attention could feel overwhelmed by all that was going on. I understood every bit of the movie, but I could see how someone who doesn't exactly think as fast and isn't as knowledgeable about the TF universe as me could be confused, since the story moves forward at such a high speed. But, when I saw the movie again, it didn't feel overwhelming at all. I could concentrate on what was actually going on, and it was even more amazing, that time. I'm going to see the movie again today and see if I can spot even more things that make the movie even more badass than it was the first 2 times.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 1st, 2014 @ 11:43am CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 1st, 2014 @ 11:51am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Although a movie should give all its major points on a first viewing, or at least make you want to watch it again. If people don't get the right information first go round, they probably won't want a second viewing.
Then, why does everyone like movies like Inception? I understood everything the first time I watched that movie, and had no reason to ever watch it again. I just didn't care.
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 1st, 2014 @ 11:51am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Although a movie should give all its major points on a first viewing, or at least make you want to watch it again. If people don't get the right information first go round, they probably won't want a second viewing.
Then, why does everyone like movies like Inception? I understood everything the first time I watched that movie, and had no reason to ever watch it again. I just didn't care. Yet, everyone says you need to watch it more than once to understand it.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 1st, 2014 @ 2:16pm CDT
Posted by TurboMMaster on July 1st, 2014 @ 2:33pm CDT
Considering that thanks to his Shield he was able to knock down Grimlock, it isn't hard to imagine that this Shield give you ability to fly. There must be reason, wy he holds it in his hand during flight...SlyTF1 wrote:Also when did Optimus all of a sudden become able to fly? Without all the tech. Its not like he upgraded during the movie.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 1st, 2014 @ 2:39pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Although a movie should give all its major points on a first viewing, or at least make you want to watch it again. If people don't get the right information first go round, they probably won't want a second viewing.
Then, why does everyone like movies like Inception? I understood everything the first time I watched that movie, and had no reason to ever watch it again. I just didn't care. Yet, everyone says you need to watch it more than once to understand it.
Thing is you didn't care, in a sense you're proving what I'm saying by not watching it a second time. Of course I haven't seen Inception so I can't comment on the plot.
@Chuckdawg1999
Personally I would prefer a mix of firearms and melee, be good at any situation.
Posted by TFfan92 on July 1st, 2014 @ 3:21pm CDT
Did you guys notice this as well and what do you make of it?
Posted by Archanubis on July 1st, 2014 @ 3:29pm CDT
TFfan92 wrote:I don't know if someone already brought this up but when all hell broke loose at the farm you see a rally car with no driver pull up. Walberg and his daughter get in and you see Shane in the driver seat. This is either a film set mistake or a huge continuity error. Maybe the writer's wanted another transformer but scrapped it. What's even more suspicious is even Shane commented that his driving was for some reason on a whole other level.
Did you guys notice this as well and what do you make of it?
I didn't notice a driver until the car parked by the pond in front of the house; admittedly, I mistook the rally car for Drift's car mode (having not paid much attention to any of the pre-movie news, admittedly). I chalk it up to the windows, which were obviously tinted (probably standard practice in action movies, so you don't see the stunt driver). As for Shane's comment about his driving, I chalk that up to the heightened adrenaline.
One thing I have noticed is that Shane's car has the same colors (though not the same patterns) as Bugbite
Posted by Peridot on July 1st, 2014 @ 3:44pm CDT
Posted by Dagon on July 1st, 2014 @ 4:12pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Who's Marky Mark?
Some guy who used to be a hip hop "artist" 20 years ago. I have never seen him in a movie though. Matter of fact, I haven't seen that guy in about 20 years. Disappeared sometime around the time MARK WAHLBERG THE ACTOR appeared on the scene. I wish people would stop confusing the 2...
Because it totally makes sense that people who are fans of characters that can be both a robot and a car would be totally unable to equate an actor and his earlier career/iteration as being the same person. It's like we never reach that tryhard quotient on Seibertron these days, right?
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 1st, 2014 @ 4:41pm CDT
Dagon wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Who's Marky Mark?
Some guy who used to be a hip hop "artist" 20 years ago. I have never seen him in a movie though. Matter of fact, I haven't seen that guy in about 20 years. Disappeared sometime around the time MARK WAHLBERG THE ACTOR appeared on the scene. I wish people would stop confusing the 2...
Because it totally makes sense that people who are fans of characters that can be both a robot and a car would be totally unable to equate an actor and his earlier career/iteration as being the same person. It's like we never reach that tryhard quotient on Seibertron these days, right?
After reading through, I think the point Burn was making was that it's not relevant anymore to call Mark Walhberg Marky Mark. Unless the actor himself endorses it.
Posted by VirusCarnage on July 1st, 2014 @ 4:45pm CDT
1.) Shane - I really don't like him the more I watch of him (more so in the first half of the movie) the more I dislike him.
2.) Optimus' body change with the great sword - It seems like his shoulders were modified a bit as well as his forearms, it could be he got the jetpack at that point.
There's probably a few other things I'm forgetting, oh well.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anybody else getting a wee bit tired of all the swords and melee weapons? Just me?
I'm not I love sword and melee weapons, kinda reminds me of a less gruesome version of Game of Thrones.
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 1st, 2014 @ 5:53pm CDT
Posted by Dagon on July 1st, 2014 @ 6:47pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Just saw AOE for the third time. Now, I'm convinced that anyone having a hard time following the story is just saying that because they don't want to admit that a TF movie actually had an interesting story without a bunch of annoying humor.
Ah yes, the vast anti-Transformers conspiracy.
I'm pretty sure this gets brought up with each new movie. Too bad it never gets any less stupid.
ZeroWolf wrote:Dagon wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Who's Marky Mark?
Some guy who used to be a hip hop "artist" 20 years ago. I have never seen him in a movie though. Matter of fact, I haven't seen that guy in about 20 years. Disappeared sometime around the time MARK WAHLBERG THE ACTOR appeared on the scene. I wish people would stop confusing the 2...
Because it totally makes sense that people who are fans of characters that can be both a robot and a car would be totally unable to equate an actor and his earlier career/iteration as being the same person. It's like we never reach that tryhard quotient on Seibertron these days, right?
After reading through, I think the point Burn was making was that it's not relevant anymore to call Mark Walhberg Marky Mark. Unless the actor himself endorses it.
I understand that. It's the same principle as when your parents call you by your childhood nickname or a younger-sounding version of your name, like Jimmy instead of James, and you have no idea who they're referring to. Or like how we never refer to things from the past, because they don't matter, or how no one ever remembers things that people, especially famous people who garner a lot of media attention, do before the thing they are currently doing. They've just always been what they currently are.
Wait, that's dumb also.
I think using his past as some kind of slight that he was in this or any movie and ignoring his past because now he does something else are equally dumb.
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 1st, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT
Dagon wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Just saw AOE for the third time. Now, I'm convinced that anyone having a hard time following the story is just saying that because they don't want to admit that a TF movie actually had an interesting story without a bunch of annoying humor.
Ah yes, the vast anti-Transformers conspiracy.
I'm pretty sure this gets brought up with each new movie. Too bad it never gets any less stupid.
I thought ROTF and DOTM had good enough plots, but they kind of felt like they were slapped together. With AOE, it seems like they put a bit more thought into it, and teasing what the sequels might bring.
Posted by VirusCarnage on July 1st, 2014 @ 7:21pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Just saw AOE for the third time. Now, I'm convinced that anyone having a hard time following the story is just saying that because they don't want to admit that a TF movie actually had an interesting story without a bunch of annoying humor.
It definitely seems that way, I find this to be the easiest plot to follow of the movies.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on July 1st, 2014 @ 8:41pm CDT
Decent acting all around, although I could have done without the Shane character. He did serve as a plot device in causing tension between Cade and Tessa, but was an otherwise bland character.
And for the first time in a long time, I actually gave a damn about the characters in a TF movie instead of counting down the minutes between fight scenes. I found myself rooting for Optimus, and even empathizing with him over the deaths of his friends. I actually winced when they shot up Ratchet--it was even more riveting to me than Ironhide's death. RIP, Doc.
I'm very impressed by the plot as well. I'm glad they decided to stop making episodic TF movies, and concentrate on a more intricate 3-part story that reveals the origins of Cybertronians.
Of course, AoE is not without its flaws (Dinobots need more screen time, and the knights thing could have been elaborated on a little more), but I'll gladly overlook them in light of the massive progress they made compared to the earlier movies.
Good job, Bay and Kruger. Good job.
Posted by Sub-Prime on July 1st, 2014 @ 9:17pm CDT
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 1st, 2014 @ 9:30pm CDT
viruscarnage wrote:It definitely seems that way, I find this to be the easiest plot to follow of the movies.
The core plot itself is easy to follow, but there are so many open-ended and seemingly contradictory threads in it that trying to get the whole picture can be confusing. i.e. it starts of with actual dinosaurs getting wiped out, but then that bit is dropped completely without any purpose or resolution, and then the Dino-Bots are introduced having nothing to do with the dinosaurs we saw earlier and instead are tied up with these "Knights" that aren't explained or anything. And it's a 3-hour movie, I shouldn't have to wait for a sequel or a comic or some fan's pet theory to make sense of it all.
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 1st, 2014 @ 9:34pm CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:viruscarnage wrote:It definitely seems that way, I find this to be the easiest plot to follow of the movies.
The core plot itself is easy to follow, but there are so many open-ended and seemingly contradictory threads in it that trying to get the whole picture can be confusing. i.e. it starts of with actual dinosaurs getting wiped out, but then that bit is dropped completely without any purpose or resolution, and then the Dino-Bots are introduced having nothing to do with the dinosaurs we saw earlier and instead are tied up with these "Knights" that aren't explained or anything. And it's a 3-hour movie, I shouldn't have to wait for a sequel or a comic or some fan's pet theory to make sense of it all.
The dinosaur thing was to show that the Creators were the ones who caused the extinction of the Dinosaurs. I'll be honest, though, the first time I saw the movie, I thought the Dinobots were those dinosaurs from the beginning.
Posted by Sub-Prime on July 1st, 2014 @ 10:01pm CDT
2. The explanation of the Knights would come at a bad time as the battle in China was going on at the time and Optimus was trying to get the Dinobots there before Hound and Bee would become overwhelmed against 51 cons. Also Optimus might have known little about them hence the reason he said "the legend exist".
I also like how Optimus spoke in his Cybertronian language.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 1st, 2014 @ 10:10pm CDT
TFfan92 wrote:I don't know if someone already brought this up but when all hell broke loose at the farm you see a rally car with no driver pull up. Walberg and his daughter get in and you see Shane in the driver seat. This is either a film set mistake or a huge continuity error.
He was in there. The outline of his face can be seen in the window of the car.
Posted by Skywarp64 on July 2nd, 2014 @ 2:24am CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:He was a joke in G1. What's changed?
I'll tell you what's changed.
In G1, no matter how often the Decepticons were defeated, it was (almost) always clear that Megatron was in command. Not The Fallen, not Sentinel, Megatron.
But in the movies, he's always being upstaged, by The Fallen, then Sentinel, then Lockdown.
Even in the first one, wherein he was the main big baddie, he didn't really do anything until towards the end. He wasn't being upstaged, but he was still being screwed over.
But G1 Megs was (almost) always clearly in command, and, when he wasn't, he managed to get it back before more than 2 or 3 episodes passed. I want to see more of that in Bay's films. I want to see Galvatron as not just the most credible threat but the ONLY credible threat, so incredibly powerful that no other force of evil could possibly be worse.
Except perhaps Unicron, that would be cool with me.
Posted by Burn on July 2nd, 2014 @ 3:07am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 2nd, 2014 @ 3:31am CDT
Burn wrote:Don't know why people need to compare the movies to G1. Why not compare them to Animated? Or Prime? Or the A/E/C trilogy? Why not RiD? (Obviously there's no point in comparing it to BW/BM as they're radically different)
Because everything gets compared to G1. The fact that the main character is voiced by his G1 voice isn't helping any.
Posted by Burn on July 2nd, 2014 @ 3:35am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 2nd, 2014 @ 4:17am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Burn wrote:Don't know why people need to compare the movies to G1. Why not compare them to Animated? Or Prime? Or the A/E/C trilogy? Why not RiD? (Obviously there's no point in comparing it to BW/BM as they're radically different)
Because everything gets compared to G1. The fact that the main character is voiced by his G1 voice isn't helping any.
It also doesn't help that a lot of people remember G1 a lil bit differently then how it actually was. They seem to be of the opinion that it was the best toon ever but just cause you were first doesn't mean you're the best, characters can still be refined.
The other day I watched the first season of G1, and its definitely a product of its time. Kids today wouldn't stand for it.
@Skywarp
I think it would take a different thread to explain the differences between G1 and movieverse, and to why Megatron was 'overshadowed as you put it.
Posted by Uncontrolable_myosin on July 2nd, 2014 @ 7:35am CDT
Posted by Cyber Bishop on July 2nd, 2014 @ 7:54am CDT
US releases used as an example.
G1 Cartoon
Beast Wars (continuation of g1 toon)
Beast Machines (continuation of g1 toon)
G1 Marvel Comics
RID
Energon
Armada
TF Prime
Rescue Bots
Movieverse
And whatever else is out there, each is in it's own universe.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 2nd, 2014 @ 9:28am CDT
Burn wrote:So we should compare Rescue Bots to G1 too then?
No, we shouldn't. And we shouldn't compare any other series either, unless it's a direct continuity of or reference to, or even inspiration of G1. But I agree, comparisons between Bayverse and G1 shouldn' be in this thread. This is just about AoE.
And yeah, I noticed the "Vehicon" Cadillac. Not sure if it was intentional or not.
Posted by superchook6909 on July 2nd, 2014 @ 10:02am CDT
And that "THEY" want him back.
I can only assume THEY are the Quintessons, from the G1 series.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 2nd, 2014 @ 12:03pm CDT
superchook6909 wrote:In the movie, Lockdown mentions that Optimus Prime was not "Born", but he was "Made."
And that "THEY" want him back.
I can only assume THEY are the Quintessons, from the G1 series.
One can only hope, but they won't be floating heads that's for sure.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 2nd, 2014 @ 1:18pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I can only assume THEY are the Quintessons, from the G1 series.
One can only hope, but they won't be floating heads that's for sure.
One can also dread. I hope the Quints won't be in Bayverse, they're horrible characters. Or if they do a version of them, make them different than floating 5 faced heads. But then they wouldn't really be Quintessons.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 2nd, 2014 @ 2:37pm CDT
*everyone runs*
Wait, it's not that crazy, his wiki entry says he claimed to have built primitive transformers. So maybe the writers/director saw this as a way to kill two birds with one stone, creators myth and bring in unicron. After all they may send Unicron to deal with the Autobots and humanity that is playing around with things it shouldn't.
I rather this didn't happen, but I can't think what the writers or Bay would do for the fifth one.