Transformers: Age of Extinction Mega One-Step Bumblebee Commercial

robotmel wrote:As I still dont own an official Classics Voyager Op, this may well end up in my collection as I like both figures offered in this 2-pac Yo!

TransformersFan89 wrote:Ok cool thanks JelZe GoldRabbit and ScottyP! I don't suppose there's any word on a deluxe Stinger or maybe a leader Galvatron is there?

Sabrblade wrote:

TransformersFan89 wrote:Ok cool thanks JelZe GoldRabbit and ScottyP! I don't suppose there's any word on a deluxe Stinger or maybe a leader Galvatron is there?

Nope. No word at BotCon.

indarkestknight wrote:...Isn't he supposed to have a hook hand?

*confused*

STngAR wrote:Really can't see spending 80 bucks for that

Superwheeljack wrote:

indarkestknight wrote:...Isn't he supposed to have a hook hand?

*confused*

Sadly, no.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:

STngAR wrote:Really can't see spending 80 bucks for that

I know. It looks cheap. If I had to give it a price, I'd say $29.99. But as time goes on, things will get more expensive. Soon, a gallon of gas could cost $20. I hope gas companies won't raise the price after the making of this post.

megatronus wrote:I don't care how good the joke is (and this one wasn't spectacular)... text never needs to be that small.

Delta Magnus wrote:...Dayum. That looks pretty sweet. But seeing that, I think it's safe to say that expecting an accurate transforming version of this design is kinda unfair. I mean, by the looks of things this transformation defies the laws of physics. There's no way they could make an even remotely accurate version without major partsforming. And you all know what I think of partsforming.

Shuttershock wrote:
Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

Shuttershock wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:...Dayum. That looks pretty sweet. But seeing that, I think it's safe to say that expecting an accurate transforming version of this design is kinda unfair. I mean, by the looks of things this transformation defies the laws of physics. There's no way they could make an even remotely accurate version without major partsforming. And you all know what I think of partsforming.

And THAT'S why I don't really care for this knight design for Optimus. It's neat and all, but it's impossible for designers to work around that in ways that aren't bulky awkward shell-forming. There's really nothing to indicate that he's a truck outside of the smokestacks, so he's near unidentifiable as a Transformer.

Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

william-james88 wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:
Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

I am really looking forward to owning EM Prime then. I am simply waiting for that Evolution 2 pack to come out since I dont have either of those molds yet (looks like it will be in a while).

Delta Magnus wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:...Dayum. That looks pretty sweet. But seeing that, I think it's safe to say that expecting an accurate transforming version of this design is kinda unfair. I mean, by the looks of things this transformation defies the laws of physics. There's no way they could make an even remotely accurate version without major partsforming. And you all know what I think of partsforming.

And THAT'S why I don't really care for this knight design for Optimus. It's neat and all, but it's impossible for designers to work around that in ways that aren't bulky awkward shell-forming. There's really nothing to indicate that he's a truck outside of the smokestacks, so he's near unidentifiable as a Transformer.

Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

Indeed. I do tip my hat to the designers for trying to make the design unusual, refreshing and not obviously an upscaled and heavily detailed toy, but it is a pain for those of us who want a decent figure of it. Granted, the increased simplification of the AoE line doesn't help (at least with the very large toys; the Deluxes and some of the Voyagers look same as usual) but really, I doubt even Studio Half-Eye could make an accurate transforming version of that (although I wouldn't put it past them considering they made "perfect transforming" versions of Gunbuster and Gurren Lagann).

On the plus side, this could help push forward the toy engineering/mech designing arts, so to speak. For a similar example, look at Evangelion; the lithe, organic designs were considered too difficult to render in toy form and thus Gainax were bombarded with requests to make them more toyetic. However, Gainax refused to give on the designs, and the series went on to basically rewrite the rules of anime. Plus, they eventually got a toy contract with Sega and several years later there are now lots of good Evangelion figures. So, Eva and its radical designs changed not only the anime industry, but the toy industry too.

Not that the live-action Transformers movies are up to par with Eva of course, but you get what I mean.

Shuttershock wrote:Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

What's really impressive is it's so simple, he basically turns inside-out. Hound even transforms in a similar way. I don't know why they didn't take that approach with leader Optimus and Galvatron.

Shuttershock wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:Credit where credit's due, EM Optimus is an engineering marvel. True, his arms might be a little skinny, but his robot mode is condensed, tight and impressively poseable.

What's really impressive is it's so simple, he basically turns inside-out. Hound even transforms in a similar way. I don't know why they didn't take that approach with leader Optimus and Galvatron.

That's what annoys me even more about Galvatron's design. In the film (spoilers), he "transforms" by basically dematerializing into cubes and reforming as a robot, meaning that absolutely NO care has to be put into parts from vehicle mode fitting in. Because of this, they've just had to make him a shell-former with a semi-backpack.

In short, the movie designs and sensibilities are hindering the engineering of the toys.

Metro Prime wrote:What I don't understand is this: How is coordinating thousands of tiny cubes to coalesce into a humanoid form "cheaper" than what we've seen for the past 3 movies?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:A lot of that has to do with the fact that Hasbro is basically made to sit in a corner while Paramount handles most of the movie stuff. I really think Hasbro needs to step up and insist that the movie designers work alongside the toy designers.

Metro Prime wrote:What I don't understand is this: How is coordinating thousands of tiny cubes to coalesce into a humanoid form "cheaper" than what we've seen for the past 3 movies?

1PrimeProductions wrote:The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.

1PrimeProductions wrote:The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.

Sabrblade wrote:

1PrimeProductions wrote:The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.

According to what source?

1PrimeProductions wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

1PrimeProductions wrote:The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.

According to what source?

If you think about it, it makes sense. The humans just started building transformers and it's very unlikely they knew exactly what they were doing. After all, Megatron was able to take full control of his new body and the drones without anyone knowing. Also, when Joshua was showing that girl transformium, it didn't transform either. It "cubeformed" into other objects.

Sabrblade wrote:

1PrimeProductions wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

1PrimeProductions wrote:The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.

According to what source?

If you think about it, it makes sense. The humans just started building transformers and it's very unlikely they knew exactly what they were doing. After all, Megatron was able to take full control of his new body and the drones without anyone knowing. Also, when Joshua was showing that girl transformium, it didn't transform either. It "cubeformed" into other objects.

My post was in response to your phrasing it like a confirmed fact, rather than as speculation.

1PrimeProductions wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

1PrimeProductions wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

1PrimeProductions wrote:The reasoning for the "cubified transformations" was to show that KSI really didn't fully understand the transformers technology.

According to what source?

If you think about it, it makes sense. The humans just started building transformers and it's very unlikely they knew exactly what they were doing. After all, Megatron was able to take full control of his new body and the drones without anyone knowing. Also, when Joshua was showing that girl transformium, it didn't transform either. It "cubeformed" into other objects.

My post was in response to your phrasing it like a confirmed fact, rather than as speculation.

It may not have been DIRECTLY said by any character in AoE, but once again look at the scene with Joshua and that girl when he was showing her the transformium. It reacted the same way when it changed from thing to thing.

Metro Prime wrote:My theory is that what the humans are creating aren't really Transformers; they're just blobs of Cybertronian metal programmed to vaguely resemble them. It's like making a Transformer out of Play-Doh. There's no panels shifting or anything because the entire robot just gets "molded" into a different form.

Metro Prime wrote:My theory is that what the humans are creating aren't really Transformers; they're just blobs of Cybertronian metal programmed to vaguely resemble them. It's like making a Transformer out of Play-Doh. There's no panels shifting or anything because the entire robot just gets "molded" into a different form.

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