Transformers: Age of Extinction - Behind the Explosions Clip

SlyTF1 wrote:It's the 16th. Where do I buy it?

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:It's the 16th. Where do I buy it?

Well first you have to leave your house and go out in public and face other people ...

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:It's the 16th. Where do I buy it?

Well first you have to leave your house and go out in public and face other people ...

SlyTF1 wrote:

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:It's the 16th. Where do I buy it?

Well first you have to leave your house and go out in public and face other people ...

No, it's only out for digital download, now.

ConBotFormer wrote:I love Grammer. I really wish he wasn't killed off. I would have loved to see him in more TransFormers movies. Still, I'm grateful he was in AOE. He brought such a much needed, serious tone to this movie.

Sabrblade wrote:I have a question to ask the local mods of this forum.

I am finally almost done typing up my review of the movie and hope to have it posted sometime this week. However, it is so massive in length that it cannot fit into just one post. I'm aware that this site is wary of people posting multiple consecutive posts at a time (i.e. - double-posting, triple-posting, etc.), so I'm asking about this before I post my review.

Would I be permitted to post my review in full all in one go via multiple-posting, or should I instead break down my review into sections and post each of those individually over a duration of time, allowing other users to respond in between each of my review posts?

To celebrate the release of Transformers: Age of Extinction on Blu-ray, Paramount Studios held a special “Behind the Wheel” press event in Las Vegas, where CBR’s Steve Sunu was able to get behind the wheel of some of the types of cars used in the summer blockbuster.

After tearing through a 7-turn track in an Audi R8 and Lamborghini Gallardo Ip560-4, which he opened up to over 100 mph, Sunu sat down with Peter Cullen, the iconic voice of Optimus Prime, to discuss his legacy over the last 30 years of Transformers and how grateful he is for having the opportunity to bring to life a character who has had a positive influence over several generations of fans.

Sunu also spoke with driver Sli Lewis, who was responsible for some of the film’s dangerous stunts, about his earliest experience behind the wheel, and his father’s immediate pride at his son’s driving prowess.

Megatron Wolf wrote:just once id like someone to ask cullen how he feels about prime becoming a murderer and wanting to kill humans, i really want to know his take on that aspect of bay prime.

Megatron Wolf wrote:just once id like someone to ask cullen how he feels about prime becoming a murderer and wanting to kill humans, i really want to know his take on that aspect of bay prime.

Smokescreen wrote:I'm sure everyone has already voiced their opinion on the various movies thus far.. I liked the first movie only after Transfans stepped in and told Bay what he was doing wrong. That movie turned out pretty good. When the 2nd movie came out, you could clearly see how he didn't take the advice of a lot of fans and went in a totally different direction with the twins and Devastator. Kind of irritated me TBH. 3rd and 4th movies weren't much better. I've watched AOE 4 times now, but each time I watched it(including when I saw it in theatres), I was bored and confused at the same time. The dialogue was way too fast, way too confusing, same types of action as the first 3 movies.. And I really didn't understand the whole Dinobots thing. When did Knockout recover Grimlock? Last I knew he was still frozen in the ice! Then Prime rescues the Legendary Knights (Dinobots) and they are all following him out. He then tells them to follow him and help him out, but to do so they first need to fight him?? Totally didn't make any sense whatsoever. Then Grimlock gives up that easily?? I kept thinking.. WTF is going on here???? Then after the battle, Prime disappears off of Earth and just leaves the Dinobots to roam Earth? This had so many questions written all over it that I just thought.. screw it.. I hope this is the end of my misery, that Bay will leave cartoon based movies along (even though he's messing up TMNT) and someone else will step in that actually LIKES space/alien type movies. JJ Abrahms perhaps? I realize I haven't said much on these forums the last 6 years.. but I remember when I went to Botcon 2001, I heard about the first movie coming out.. It took 6 more years to finally show up. So I was excited. As the movies have rolled out, I've become less and less interested. I just think it could have been a lot better.

Smokescreen wrote:I'm sure everyone has already voiced their opinion on the various movies thus far.. I liked the first movie only after Transfans stepped in and told Bay what he was doing wrong. That movie turned out pretty good. When the 2nd movie came out, you could clearly see how he didn't take the advice of a lot of fans and went in a totally different direction with the twins and Devastator. Kind of irritated me TBH. 3rd and 4th movies weren't much better. I've watched AOE 4 times now, but each time I watched it(including when I saw it in theatres), I was bored and confused at the same time. The dialogue was way too fast, way too confusing, same types of action as the first 3 movies.. And I really didn't understand the whole Dinobots thing. When did Knockout recover Grimlock? Last I knew he was still frozen in the ice! Then Prime rescues the Legendary Knights (Dinobots) and they are all following him out. He then tells them to follow him and help him out, but to do so they first need to fight him?? Totally didn't make any sense whatsoever. Then Grimlock gives up that easily?? I kept thinking.. WTF is going on here???? Then after the battle, Prime disappears off of Earth and just leaves the Dinobots to roam Earth? This had so many questions written all over it that I just thought.. screw it.. I hope this is the end of my misery, that Bay will leave cartoon based movies along (even though he's messing up TMNT) and someone else will step in that actually LIKES space/alien type movies. JJ Abrahms perhaps? I realize I haven't said much on these forums the last 6 years.. but I remember when I went to Botcon 2001, I heard about the first movie coming out.. It took 6 more years to finally show up. So I was excited. As the movies have rolled out, I've become less and less interested. I just think it could have been a lot better.

ZeroWolf wrote:AoE: are you sure you have watched the movie? Knockout? You mean Lockdown?

Also TMNT, Bay had little involvement with that movie. In fact I've heard good things. Plus not everything Abrams have done is gold, cloverfield? Plus you want a fan on these movies? Or someone who brings in the money....like Bay.

SlyTF1 wrote:
It doesn't seem like you even watched the movie. There is no Knockout, and Grimlock was never in ice. And the Dinobots have always been the type where you have to prove yourself for them to follow you. And how the hell is the dialogue confusing?

Smokescreen wrote:TMNT is directed by Bay. Nuff said.

Smokescreen wrote:Have you watched the movie? Grimlock was in ice at the very beginning of the movie when the female (name?) from KSI came up to find out what was going on. Do you remember her passing thru the metal detector in the middle of nowhere, it going off, and then the archaeologist banging on Grimlocks teeth?

Sabrblade wrote:False. That movie was directed by Jonathan Liebesman. Bay was merely one of that film's SIX producers, and he wasn't even the executive producer.

Sabrblade wrote:False. That was not Grimlock. Nor was that dinosaur even of the same model design as Grimlock's. For one, it had a "mane" of sorts, which Grimlock did not have. And its teeth were laid out differently from Grimlock's, and its snout was a different shape from Grimlock's. If anything, it looked more like Scorn than it did Grimlock, but he too has differences that clash with the frozen dino's design.

Smokescreen wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:False. That movie was directed by Jonathan Liebesman. Bay was merely one of that film's SIX producers, and he wasn't even the executive producer.

Gotcha, thanks for trying to prove everything I said was wrong. I get that out of these types of websites all the time. For the longest time, even on MichaelBay.com it was talked about how he would be directing the movie. So apparently at some point and time he switched over to being a producer and Jonathan became director. After I initially heard he was directing the movie, I stopped paying attention.

Smokescreen wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:False. That was not Grimlock. Nor was that dinosaur even of the same model design as Grimlock's. For one, it had a "mane" of sorts, which Grimlock did not have. And its teeth were laid out differently from Grimlock's, and its snout was a different shape from Grimlock's. If anything, it looked more like Scorn than it did Grimlock, but he too has differences that clash with the frozen dino's design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfJluhYbxCM 46 seconds. This isn't Grimlock? Hmm.. interesting. Sure made everyone believe it was him.

Sabrblade wrote:What's more is that there was a time where the Dinobots weren't even going to be in this movie (they were gonna be in the next one, with this one foreshadowing them instead), yet it was still always going to open the way it did.

Smokescreen wrote:Gotcha, thanks for trying to prove everything I said was wrong. I get that out of these types of websites all the time.

Burn wrote:

Smokescreen wrote:Gotcha, thanks for trying to prove everything I said was wrong. I get that out of these types of websites all the time.

You have to forgive our resident know-it-all Sabrblade, he is quick to point out the inaccuracies of a persons post and has an awfully habit of not being tactful about it.

Burn wrote:You have to forgive our resident know-it-all Sabrblade, he is quick to point out the inaccuracies of a persons post and has an awfully habit of not being tactful about it.

Burn wrote:In this particular case though he is correct, Bay wasn't the Director, merely a Producer, however to give the movie more push they used his name as, and a lot of Bay-Haters on this sight will hate to read this, people enjoy going to see Michael Bay movies, or movies he is heavily involved in.

Smokescreen wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:False. That was not Grimlock. Nor was that dinosaur even of the same model design as Grimlock's. For one, it had a "mane" of sorts, which Grimlock did not have. And its teeth were laid out differently from Grimlock's, and its snout was a different shape from Grimlock's. If anything, it looked more like Scorn than it did Grimlock, but he too has differences that clash with the frozen dino's design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfJluhYbxCM 46 seconds. This isn't Grimlock? Hmm.. interesting. Sure made everyone believe it was him.

SlyTF1 wrote:
Yeah, and by "everyone," you mean just you.

Smokescreen wrote:Well then lets get some new writers!

Burn wrote:But see you're blaming the Director. You're completely over-looking the writers.

First movie was Orci/Kurtzman, notorious for not being very original.
Second movie was interrupted by the writers strike, so was rushed, Orci/Kurtzman returned along with Ehran Kruger
Third movie was solely Kruger
Fourth movie was solely Kruger.

From my personal perspective, as the movies have progressed they've gotten worse. With each movie my viewing times in the cinemas has reduced from the initial movie (four times) to AoE (once).

One thing has remained consistent. The director.

What's changed, the writers.

I don't blame Bay, I blame the writers.

Cthulhunicron wrote:Finally got around to seeing Age of Extinction. I have to say, though I'm not a huge fan of the overall style of the live-action films, this is definitely an improvement over the last two. The humor was definitely toned down, and I liked that there was a more compact set of characters. Every person in the movie felt like they had a reason for being there, and I liked that the whole family works together at the end to help defeat Lockdown. I also enjoyed Kelsey Grammar as Attinger.

I still wish they would get a better writer than Ehren Kruger. The guy doesn't seem to know how to make these movies connect and flow together. First it was the Allspark that created the Transformers and now it's these mysterious aliens? The Autobots seem to be pretty aware of the fact that they were made by aliens and that they had cyberformed Earth millions of years ago. So if they knew this the whole time, why were they saying that they were created by the Allspark in the first movie? And again, the incredible coincidences surrounding Earth are just annoying. Aliens cyberform Earth, then millions of years ago, the Fallen just happens to build the star harvester on Earth, then thousands of years later, the Allspark just happens to land on Earth, and then thousands of years later, Sentinel just happens to crash into Earth's moon. Sure is convenient.

Lockdown tells Prime that he wasn't born, he was built. I'm not really sure what he's getting at here... He could mean that all Transformers on their own, when in reality they are all manufactured by the Creators. This would contradict what Hound and Optimus say later when they speak candidly about their knowledge of aliens creating their race. It would also contradict the fact that the Decepticons were able to create hatchlings in Revenge of the Fallen. Or maybe he means the aliens created the first Transformers who then reproduced on their own for generations, but then the aliens built Optimus Prime to be some special Transformer. Or maybe he was just trying to tell Prime that aliens created the Cybertronian race and nothing more. But Optimus seems to already know this. Plus, if aliens created the Cybertronians and then later generations reproduced on their own, then Optimus would still have been born..not built.

So maybe that's what the Knights were? Special Transformers that were custom built by the creators and then reinserted into Cybertronian society with false memories so they wouldn't know of their true origins? Maybe that's what the Primes were? We don't know, because the movie is frustratingly vague about all this.

Speaking of vague, we don't know hardly anything about the Dinobots. From what I could gather, the Creators made them from dinosaurs when they cyberformed Earth...even though most of the other dinosaurs were just rendered down for their metal and made into normal Transformers. So maybe the Dinobots were some kind of experiment? Then somehow, they were told of in legends...it's not clear if they lived alongside the other Cybertronians, or what exactly happened to them between being created and being captured by Lockdown.

The idea of humans wanting to make their own Transformers is a neat idea, definitely one that's been around for a while in Transformers lore. Not a huge fan of the new, micro-cube style of transforming. Half the fun is watching all the pieces of the vehicle slide around, fold, and bend to reveal the robot form. I hope the old style of transformation returns in the next movie. I also wish they had done more classic Decepticons for this movie, or maybe had Double Dealer as one of Lockdown's henchmen.

The Autobot designs were definitely an improvement over abominations like Q and the twins. I kinda wish these Autobots would act a little more like heroes, though. Crosshairs openly talks about wishing he could kill all the others so he could be in charge. Hound kills a small animal on Lockdown's ship simply for spitting on him. It's hard for me to really sympathize with these characters when they're always screaming about killing everything in sight, hitting each other, calling everything a "****," etc. "I'm a fat ballerina who takes scalps and slits throats" has to be one of the worst lines of dialogue I've ever heard in a movie.

In closing, I think the movie was okay. Still not a huge fan of Michael Bay's style of directing, or Kruger's writing, but it's definitely better than the last two. Hopefully they keep improving.

TurboMMaster wrote:

Burn wrote:But see you're blaming the Director. You're completely over-looking the writers.

First movie was Orci/Kurtzman, notorious for not being very original.
Second movie was interrupted by the writers strike, so was rushed, Orci/Kurtzman returned along with Ehran Kruger
Third movie was solely Kruger
Fourth movie was solely Kruger.

From my personal perspective, as the movies have progressed they've gotten worse. With each movie my viewing times in the cinemas has reduced from the initial movie (four times) to AoE (once).

One thing has remained consistent. The director.

What's changed, the writers.

I don't blame Bay, I blame the writers.

It was already proved that Bay changed original scripts a lot, and that Movies with simple and naive plot (Godzilla and Hercules from this summer only) are consider good, or at least decent. Yet some people still belive that this isn't Bay's fault that his movies were disaster. I don't know how this conspiracy can be so long-living...

The things about the Knights and the Creators are supposed to be vague. They still have 2 movies left to explain it all.

Cthulhunicron wrote:

The things about the Knights and the Creators are supposed to be vague. They still have 2 movies left to explain it all.

I'll be very impressed if they do. I was hoping Transformers 3 would explain what the Fallen did between leaving Earth and his appearance in Transformers 2 but the whole thing got dropped and was never mentioned again. I was hoping Transformers 4 would shed some light on whether Sentinel was leaving Cybertron to look for the Allspark or if the Allspark was launched after he left, but the whole thing got dropped and was never mentioned again.

SlyTF1 wrote:The prequel comics mentioned that. I don't see why the movies would have to cover something that was already explained in the same continuity, twice.

The prequel comics mentioned that. I don't see why the movies would have to cover something that was already explained in the same continuity, twice. I thought that the reason they eliminated comics for AOE was specifically because people who didn't read the ones that came out with the first three were confused about it all. Thus, giving them the opportunity to explain everything in this new trilogy in the actual movies themselves.

Cthulhunicron wrote:

The things about the Knights and the Creators are supposed to be vague. They still have 2 movies left to explain it all.

I'll be very impressed if they do. I was hoping Transformers 3 would explain what the Fallen did between leaving Earth and his appearance in Transformers 2 but the whole thing got dropped and was never mentioned again. I was hoping Transformers 4 would shed some light on whether Sentinel was leaving Cybertron to look for the Allspark or if the Allspark was launched after he left, but the whole thing got dropped and was never mentioned again.

Cthulhunicron wrote:I shouldn't have to read peripheral material such as prequel comics to understand a movie's plot. It's cool if they add something to the backstory, something that's not necessary to follow the actual films, but they shouldn't be essential reading. If I watch a film series, and things don't add up because I'm not reading the comics that are released at the same time as the film, then that's the fault of the film writers, not me.

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:The prequel comics mentioned that. I don't see why the movies would have to cover something that was already explained in the same continuity, twice.

You know the majority of those people who went to see the movies that helped each of them generate millions, and some times billions of dollars?

Yeah ... most of them don't read comics.

I really wish you'd step back and realise that nearly everyone else in the world isn't as narrow mindedly obsessed like you are, perhaps then you'd actually be more objective in these discussions.

Cthulhunicron wrote:

The things about the Knights and the Creators are supposed to be vague. They still have 2 movies left to explain it all.

I'll be very impressed if they do. I was hoping Transformers 3 would explain what the Fallen did between leaving Earth and his appearance in Transformers 2 but the whole thing got dropped and was never mentioned again. I was hoping Transformers 4 would shed some light on whether Sentinel was leaving Cybertron to look for the Allspark or if the Allspark was launched after he left, but the whole thing got dropped and was never mentioned again.

Burn wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:The prequel comics mentioned that. I don't see why the movies would have to cover something that was already explained in the same continuity, twice.

You know the majority of those people who went to see the movies that helped each of them generate millions, and some times billions of dollars?

Yeah ... most of them don't read comics.

I really wish you'd step back and realise that nearly everyone else in the world isn't as narrow mindedly obsessed like you are, perhaps then you'd actually be more objective in these discussions.

Burn wrote:There's a big difference between taking something and changing it and creating something from scratch.

Of course he would have made changes, I would imagine all directors do that, but he did NOT re-write them. Thus blaming him solely is pointless.

I agree with you here Burn. After all, the comics that involved the Fallen were only available in the UK. Us Americans who have different variations of comics available to us, do not always get the same back story as other parts of the world. Places like Japan had Beast Wars NEO and Beast Wars II. The UK had comics with a character called The Fallen. All of which I still don't know the whole story to. (I've watched all of the American cartoons as well as read most of the comics available) I personally didn't know anything about The Fallen until the movie came out, and I did some digging to find out that it was a "UK" thing.