Transformer Legacy Wave 1 Voyager Figures are Out at US Retail

I'll also be skipping the hunt for Bulkhead. Not because of price or availability but because I don't like the figure. Bring on wave 2.

I'm more looking forward to the Core class. I want my Iguanus!

Thanks to a Tweet from Twitter user Crankcase79@tfnation2022, We have some brand new in-hand images of the new Transformers Legacy Core Class Iguanus! Crankcase79@tfnation2022 purchased this Iguanus figure from InDemand toys, who is known to get some figures in earlier than the rest of the world. Iguanus is a small Core Class update to his original G1 pretender toy, utilizing the new Pretender robot style of fusing the Pretender shell design as the robot mode with the alternate mode of the inner robot. In this case, Iguanus is a scale reptile robot with a motorbike alternate mode.

Iguanus is part of the Legacy Wave 1 assortment, and will see release alongside Skywarp and Hot Rod. These figures are due to be released at retail at any time, so keep a close eye out for them to start hitting shelves soon.

Check out the new images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

I guess if you're a fan this would be a dream come true. But to my eye, this core Iguanus looks... pass worthy.

DeathReviews wrote:I guess if you're a fan this would be a dream come true. But to my eye, this core Iguanicus looks... pass worthy.

The vehicle is completely daff, but the bot looks bad-ass.
I wonder if the core figure would fit in the G1 pretender shell?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I guess if you're a fan this would be a dream come true. But to my eye, this core Iguanicus looks... pass worthy.

The vehicle is completely daff, but the bot looks bad-ass.
I wonder if the core figure would fit in the G1 pretender shell?

Pretenception

Why am I kidding myself, I know I'm gonna get them just for the sword pieces. And to support the creation of Finback and Bugly.

DeathReviews wrote:I guess if you're a fan this would be a dream come true. But to my eye, this core Iguanicus looks... pass worthy.

Iguanus.

sol magnus wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I guess if you're a fan this would be a dream come true. But to my eye, this core Iguanicus looks... pass worthy.

Iguanus.

Always felt like there was something not very Transformer-y about that name (though it fits the Beast Wars naming scheme well). He had the working name of Snakeskin which works on a few levels being a Pretender. Then again he had a wave mate named Bugly so maybe they were taking a break from cool names for a little while.

According to his bio on TFWiki he really loves his Pretender shell and started taking a huge interest in lizards after becoming a pretender. You could think of this as a post-Pretender version of the character that loved his shell so much he modified his own body to look more like it.

Emerje

These are my photos! Woohoo!

I've also done a little video review of Iguanus on YouTube if anyone fancies checking it out.

https://youtu.be/Avqg7Nchtsg

Is it just me or does Iguanus look bigger than normal?

High likelihood that Blitzwing is gonna leak soon, evidently PrimevsPrime posted a Coming Soon teaser on one of their social medias with Blitzy's sword and gun.

Nemesis Primal wrote:High likelihood that Blitzwing is gonna leak soon, evidently PrimevsPrime posted a Coming Soon teaser on one of their social medias with Blitzy's sword and gun.

Now that should be interesting to see

ZeroWolf wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:High likelihood that Blitzwing is gonna leak soon, evidently PrimevsPrime posted a Coming Soon teaser on one of their social medias with Blitzy's sword and gun.

Now that should be interesting to see

lol, hopefully he doesn't wait too long like he did with his ROTB toys and get sniped by Chefatron

I' not thrilled he's leaking it, but it'll be interesting to see all the parts and such. Hopefully he actually figures out how to transform Blitzwing instead of finding a way to screw it up and result in hundreds of people complaining about how "Hasblo screwed up"

The image in question and a direct quote from the individual regarding the figure, taken from TFW2005:

PrimeVsPrime wrote:Its easily the best mainline Blitzwing we’ve ever had. Scale is the same as astrotrain. 2 massive energon hands, 1 sword & 2 purple guns. Only “downside” (and even this is nitpicking) is that the shoulders are fixed in place (like G2 laserprime) so you need to flap panels up to make the arms move forward & backwards which can be annoying when posing

Isn't saying the arms are fixed in place because you have to move little panels out of the way to move them the same as saying a lot of figures have fixed legs because you have to move a skirt panel and still can't quite get them to sit? Seems like a weird complaint. Sure he can't pick his arms up over his head, but they aren't fixed.

Emerje

Nemesis Primal wrote:The image in question and a direct quote from the individual regarding the figure, taken from TFW2005:

IMG_3819.jpg

PrimeVsPrime wrote:Its easily the best mainline Blitzwing we’ve ever had. Scale is the same as astrotrain. 2 massive energon hands, 1 sword & 2 purple guns. Only “downside” (and even this is nitpicking) is that the shoulders are fixed in place (like G2 laserprime) so you need to flap panels up to make the arms move forward & backwards which can be annoying when posing

Yesssss!. Can't wait for Blitzwing!.

I'm in sore need of a replacement since my T-30 version has started falling apart.

The Rubber parts seem to be drying out and breaking off. The Entire head fell off. I think it was a bad idea to leave him in Jet mode for so long.

Emerje wrote:Isn't saying the arms are fixed in place because you have to move little panels out of the way to move them the same as saying a lot of figures have fixed legs because you have to move a skirt panel and still can't quite get them to sit? Seems like a weird complaint. Sure he can't pick his arms up over his head, but they aren't fixed.

Emerje

He admitted it was a nitpick.

Emerje wrote:Isn't saying the arms are fixed in place because you have to move little panels out of the way to move them the same as saying a lot of figures have fixed legs because you have to move a skirt panel and still can't quite get them to sit? Seems like a weird complaint. Sure he can't pick his arms up over his head, but they aren't fixed.

Emerje

It's the shoulders, not the arms. It's that the shoulders have been changed from being working shoulders part of the arms into armor kibble now separate from the arms, no longer a part of them, which alters the character's iconic silhouette and restricts arm movement now that big shoulder pads are in way of letting his arms raise up, instead of those shoulder pads being the shoulders themselves.

Overcracker wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:The image in question and a direct quote from the individual regarding the figure, taken from TFW2005:

IMG_3819.jpg

PrimeVsPrime wrote:Its easily the best mainline Blitzwing we’ve ever had. Scale is the same as astrotrain. 2 massive energon hands, 1 sword & 2 purple guns. Only “downside” (and even this is nitpicking) is that the shoulders are fixed in place (like G2 laserprime) so you need to flap panels up to make the arms move forward & backwards which can be annoying when posing

Yesssss!. Can't wait for Blitzwing!.

I'm in sore need of a replacement since my T-30 version has started falling apart.

The Rubber parts seem to be drying out and breaking off. The Entire head fell off. I think it was a bad idea to leave him in Jet mode for so long.

Ah, the bane of soft rubber plastic. The only reason I'm even considering replacing my Car Robots Optimus Prime, because aside from the wheels the toy is great (also I lost that little pistol of his and a bunch of missiles, so...).

On another note, not sure if anyone mentioned this yet, but apparently the QR codes for the first wave are now active, and they show short bios with limited animation (TFW2005 has links for most except Hot Rod). Most of them are kinda fine, but Iguanus:

Legacy Iguanus Bio wrote:Special Unit: Pretender

Bio: Iguanus is obsessed with his scaly outer shell and believes he has a special relationship with Earth reptiles.

Way to rub salt in the wound for those who wanted a modernized Pretender shell, Hasbro!

Energon Hands? The damn hands that are supposed to hold the weapons are clear plastic? WTH Hasbro

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Energon Hands? The damn hands that are supposed to hold the weapons are clear plastic? WTH Hasbro

Given the exact quote is "2 massive energon hands" (emphasis added), I don't think they're the figure's actual hands, but his Energon Weapon for the line-wide gimmick: basically a pair of Energon Hulk hands, like people like to do for CW Rook and his combiner hand.

Or I could be wrong and he's referring to the figure's actual massive hands.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Energon Hands? The damn hands that are supposed to hold the weapons are clear plastic? WTH Hasbro

The way he described them as "massive" makes me think they might be big "Hulk hands" style gloves that attach to his real hands.

MaximalNui wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Energon Hands? The damn hands that are supposed to hold the weapons are clear plastic? WTH Hasbro

Given the exact quote is "2 massive energon hands" (emphasis added), I don't think they're the figure's actual hands, but his Energon Weapon for the line-wide gimmick: basically a pair of Energon Hulk hands, like people like to do for CW Rook and his combiner hand.

Or I could be wrong and he's referring to the figure's actual massive hands.

Sabrblade wrote:The way he described them as "massive" makes me think they might be big "Hulk hands" style gloves that attach to his real hands.

This is exactly what was rumored by leakers before now, yes, Blitzwing comes with big Hulk hand gloves that also function as missile pods for tank mode. This is just the first it's been confirmed that they're his Energon weapons.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:Isn't saying the arms are fixed in place because you have to move little panels out of the way to move them the same as saying a lot of figures have fixed legs because you have to move a skirt panel and still can't quite get them to sit? Seems like a weird complaint. Sure he can't pick his arms up over his head, but they aren't fixed.

Emerje

It's the shoulders, not the arms. It's that the shoulders have been changed from being working shoulders part of the arms into armor kibble now separate from the arms, no longer a part of them, which alters the character's iconic silhouette and restricts arm movement now that big shoulder pads are in way of letting his arms raise up, instead of those shoulder pads being the shoulders themselves.

But that's just it, it's shoulder armor, not his actual shoulders. He has articulation at the shoulder, it's just a little restricted by the armor. The shoulder armor is fixed, his shoulders aren't, they're restricted to probably 180 degrees which is fine. Doesn't really bother me much, my Transformers don't spend a lot of time trying to ask the teacher a question or flying like Superman.

Emerje

I don't like hearing that Blitzwing's shoulders don't have articulation...
That's pretty disappointing.
I'm just hoping that his appearance is so good that it's easy to over look.
Very anxious to see him now!

Sowndwave76 wrote:I don't like hearing that Blitzwing's shoulders don't have articulation...
That's pretty disappointing.
I'm just hoping that his appearance is so good that it's easy to over look.
Very anxious to see him now!

They're articulated, they're just restricted from pointing up by parts on top of his shoulders, probably similar to the original.



Emerje

Emerje wrote:But that's just it, it's shoulder armor, not his actual shoulders.

For Optimus it didn't used to be. It used to be his actual shoulders.

I really hope next year's Commander is Powermaster Optimus Prime/Ginrai. It's a Prime, so it'd sell well, plus it's a version of the character that fans like, and hasn't gotten a full bells and whistles update. TR and Legends were close, but were missing the cab bot and it sounds like Motormaster's gonna be close to hitting a similar transformation. Plus, people loved Weaponizers, so why not bring the original Weaponizer, Godbomber back?

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:But that's just it, it's shoulder armor, not his actual shoulders.

For Optimus it didn't used to be. It used to be his actual shoulders.

I have one (G-2 original from Mandarake), I'm aware, but that isn't this figure.

Emerje

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I really hope next year's Commander is Powermaster Optimus Prime/Ginrai. It's a Prime, so it'd sell well, plus it's a version of the character that fans like, and hasn't gotten a full bells and whistles update. TR and Legends were close, but were missing the cab bot and it sounds like Motormaster's gonna be close to hitting a similar transformation. Plus, people loved Weaponizers, so why not bring the original Weaponizer, Godbomber back?

Because the upcoming commander is Motormaster, maybe next year would be another combiner team? Like maybe the Protectobots? I sincerely hope for Ginrai too But I'd rather prefer for them to not skimp anything and go with a full TITAN price-point boxset. Having the Ginrai powermaster, the main transtrector, the trailer, and a leader sized Godbomber so that the fully combined mode would be big like Jetfire, but MASSIVE and BEEFY with no hollow parts.

So why not have next year's Commander be Deathsaurus for HASLAB Starsaber to have his rival?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I really hope next year's Commander is Powermaster Optimus Prime/Ginrai. It's a Prime, so it'd sell well, plus it's a version of the character that fans like, and hasn't gotten a full bells and whistles update. TR and Legends were close, but were missing the cab bot and it sounds like Motormaster's gonna be close to hitting a similar transformation. Plus, people loved Weaponizers, so why not bring the original Weaponizer, Godbomber back?

Because the upcoming commander is Motormaster, maybe next year would be another combiner team? Like maybe the Protectobots? I sincerely hope for Ginrai too But I'd rather prefer for them to not skimp anything and go with a full TITAN price-point boxset. Having the Ginrai powermaster, the main transtrector, the trailer, and a leader sized Godbomber so that the fully combined mode would be big like Jetfire, but MASSIVE and BEEFY with no hollow parts.

So why not have next year's Commander be Deathsaurus for HASLAB Starsaber to have his rival?

Just realized I forgot to say that I was meaning for Godbomber to be a separate Leader class release with just Prime being the Commander But my issue with Deathsaurus being a Commander is just that I think it'd work better if he was a Leader class figure like Grimlock because that looks like it'd be about the right size relative to Star Saber. Ideally God Ginrai would end up being about the same size if a little taller than Victory Saber, with Super Ginrai being about the same size as Star Saber and Deathsaurus.

On the topic of combiners however, I'd honestly prefer if after Menasor the team leader went down to Leader cause outside of the frame for Menasor, I don't think there are any combiners that would need the budget. Granted, I think combiners work a bit better as a case by case basis, rather than trying to match each other, especially because if we stop worrying about scramble city style connections, we can start revisiting the combiners that obly really work with themselves (Road Caesar, Liokaiser, Magnaboss [BW and BWII], and Tripredacus)

I thought God Ginrai was on par/ or smaller then Star Saber (definitely smaller then Victory Saber), they certainly looked ho be a height difference in the few episodes they shared before God Ginrai was rebuilt into Victory Leo.

I'm in agreement with future combiners though

Just a reminder that in modern times, class =/= size. Deathsaurus should be a commander simply for the complexity and engineering required. Especially if they want to faithfully recreate the Breastforce gimmick and include all the weapons.

As for Ginrai, they could make separate releases for both of them, but a boxset would be much more logical and fit the titan price-point neatly. Plus there would be no distribution issues and a lone Godbomber will be a hard sell for the general public.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just a reminder that in modern times, class =/= size. Deathsaurus should be a commander simply for the complexity and engineering required. Especially if they want to faithfully recreate the Breastforce gimmick and include all the weapons.

As for Ginrai, they could make separate releases for both of them, but a boxset would be much more logical and fit the titan price-point neatly. Plus there would be no distribution issues and a lone Godbomber will be a hard sell for the general public.

These are good points, especially for Deathsarus (I much preferred the Dezaras name the victory subs used from Metronome entertainment), an updated toy would need to keep a the old gimmicks to match Victory Saber (and include his bfg that he almost beat Star Saber with)

ZeroWolf wrote:I thought God Ginrai was on par/ or smaller then Star Saber (definitely smaller then Victory Saber), they certainly looked ho be a height difference in the few episodes they shared before God Ginrai was rebuilt into Victory Leo.

I'm in agreement with future combiners though

I'm only saying that God Ginrai should be Victory Saber sized because Victory Saber's about Siege Jetfire sized and I don't think God Ginrai as a combined form should be shorter than Jetfire. Super Ginrai being a bit bigger than Grimlock sized if they make Ginrai by himself about Hoist-Siege Prime sized.

If you make God Ginrai Star Saber sized, Super Ginrai would end up being closer to voyager height, and Ginrai closer to deluxe height which wouldn't really work with future powermasters/godmasters scale wise

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:But that's just it, it's shoulder armor, not his actual shoulders.

For Optimus it didn't used to be. It used to be his actual shoulders.

And that is the very reason I am most likely skipping Laser Prime(along with the skinny legs, if he had Bulkheads legs it would look great), although I love the original. It looks bad, its lazy and restricts posing. Unless Blitzwing completely amazes me, I will skip him too because of it.

I don't really see why Deathsaurus would need to be Commander class, he doesn't need to be that complex. Hasbro said Star Saber was Leader size so a large leader like Grimlock should be enough plus his partners can be sold as Core figures like SS Ravage.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I don't really see why Deathsaurus would need to be Commander class, he doesn't need to be that complex. Hasbro said Star Saber was Leader size so a large leader like Grimlock should be enough plus his partners can be sold as Core figures like SS Ravage.

Emerje

That's the keyword here. "size".
We all know that nowadays, it means nothing.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:I don't really see why Deathsaurus would need to be Commander class, he doesn't need to be that complex. Hasbro said Star Saber was Leader size so a large leader like Grimlock should be enough plus his partners can be sold as Core figures like SS Ravage.

Emerje

That's the keyword here. "size".
We all know that nowadays, it means nothing.

Yeah classes are now price points and that's all there is to it

I wonder if it will occur to Hasbro that Pointblank could be done as a reshell of Punch/Counterpunch, mainly using the Counterpunch transformation engineering.

Re: the Powermasters/Godmasters and size... Anybody got a group screenshot of the four Autobot Godmasters together?

Guess no one saw this yet

Transformers Legacy Wave 1 Deluxe Found At US Retail

https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/03/19/transformers-legacy-wave-1-deluxe-found-at-us-retail-452061

Dragstrip? joy....

Cyber Bishop wrote:Guess no one saw this yet

Transformers Legacy Wave 1 Deluxe Found At US Retail

https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/03/19/transformers-legacy-wave-1-deluxe-found-at-us-retail-452061

Well that combined with the Buzzworthy Bluestreak sighting, I'm definitely checking out Target. Just to look at the legacy figures in hand.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Re: the Powermasters/Godmasters and size... Anybody got a group screenshot of the four Autobot Godmasters together?

Cyber Bishop wrote:Guess no one saw this yet

Transformers Legacy Wave 1 Deluxe Found At US Retail

https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/03/19/transformers-legacy-wave-1-deluxe-found-at-us-retail-452061

I submitted it as news yesterday and was met with radio silence, glad to see the information is being spread nonetheless.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Guess no one saw this yet

Transformers Legacy Wave 1 Deluxe Found At US Retail

https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/03/19/transformers-legacy-wave-1-deluxe-found-at-us-retail-452061

I submitted it as news yesterday and was met with radio silence, glad to see the information is being spread nonetheless.

I apologise for the radio silence but we're still incredibly short handed at present. I can only speak for myself but my personal life is incredibly busy at this moment in time, hence my time on here is fleeting, and I think it's the same for Will and D-Max.

If anyone reading this would like to lend a hand, don't hesitate to get in contact.

As much as I want a Titans Return Kickback for head-canon scale(?) the Legacy Deluxe looks too nice to pass up. Prime Arcee also looks great (here's hoping they do Knock Out and...dare I say Silas Breakdown? ).

RotorstormNZ wrote:As much as I want a Titans Return Kickback for head-canon scale(?) the Legacy Deluxe looks too nice to pass up. Prime Arcee also looks great (here's hoping they do Knock Out and...dare I say Silas Breakdown? ).

Knock Out is coming, though according to rumor he'll be a repaint/remold of SS86 Jazz. You can look at his recent appearance in the Wreckers comic for a rough idea of what he should look like. No rumors of Breakdown outside the Stunticon (and we've learned that the rumor that he'd be the Prime character was shot down by leakers)

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

RotorstormNZ wrote:As much as I want a Titans Return Kickback for head-canon scale(?) the Legacy Deluxe looks too nice to pass up. Prime Arcee also looks great (here's hoping they do Knock Out and...dare I say Silas Breakdown? ).

Knock Out is coming, though according to rumor he'll be a repaint/remold of SS86 Jazz. You can look at his recent appearance in the Wreckers comic for a rough idea of what he should look like. No rumors of Breakdown outside the Stunticon (and we've learned that the rumor that he'd be the Prime character was shot down by leakers)

Not to mention Hasbro recently reissued the original Prime Breakdown mold that they didn't release back in the original Hasbro line, and which can still be found and purchased online at various places.