Toy Fair 2009: Gallery of Hasbro's ROTF display area

And now for a non-Devastator related question (although pretty appropriate name for him with the "devastating" news that he's such a disappointment to many...lololololz) Anyhow, the alliance Bumblebee fig...is he really Alternator sized? Thanks much!

I am so very ecstatic to see a good Arcee figure. And as a car. This is one important step closer to getting a true, G1 Arcee in the Universe line. Wow.

Everything else is pretty underwhelming.

And Devastator.....

Devastator or not, that is one of the the ugliest, biggest wastes of plastic I've ever seen.

Leader Prime looks good as does Soundwave, dirtboss, knockout, & rollbar the rest look like gobots. Worse than the first movie figures i think. Except Strascream. He looks alot better but im renaming him again. Arcee looks great. About damn time they mad a real figure for her. I cant believe they gave animated Soundwave a frakin keytar. He already looks retarded enough now you have to twist the knife and give him that? I dont care if its Ratbat it still sucks. And of coarse its Soundwave so ill have to buy it. Damn you hasro. Universe Legends are a win. Looks like ill be adding another Hot Rod (or 3) to my collection. The RPMS i dont get. Yeah ill get Barricade since its Barricade but i dont see the point other than money for hasbro And possibly display options. Use the RPM to show alt mode rather than spending money on a 2nd or 3rd figure. The remote control prime is a cool idea. Would be better if it transformed but still cool. Devastator is an epic fail no matter how you look at it. Sideswipe looks cool but he looks to much like a generic anime robot rather than a Transformer. But that seems to be the theme of the movie other than smashing dreams and wheeled feet. Ill get him but once again rename. Thank you hasbro looks like ill be saving alot of money this year. Yeah right, knowing me ill go through withdrawl from not buying TF figures and buy all the crap i dont want. Well adds value to my ever growing collection. And i can pass them off as gobots or anime robots.

There is no way this can be $100 toy:



For 100 bucks you can get three real voyagers and 4 real deluxes. Shoot, even with the new prices you can ger more than 2 real voyagers and 4 real deluxes...

The individual vehicles look more like FABs too--maybe this is FAB Devastator!

Sigh...I guess there is still the smallest smidgeon of hope that's not it, but oh well...

I don't know, rounding up, four 13 dollar deluxes and two 23 dollar voyagers equals 98 bucks. It's about even. I suppose one could argue the lack of robot modes takes away from that, but like I said, maybe it does something more. Demolisher is a pretty big centerpiece.

You know, Devastator is slowly winning me over.

Supreme Convoy wrote:You know, Devastator is slowly winning me over.

Me too...

How awesome would it be to have this guy set up with the rest of your movie toys? I think the toy looks very cool, but I just can't visualize paying 100 dollars for it. But if the price drops, it's probably mine.

Can't wait for these toys to hit shelves.

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I think movie Devastators popularity will increase after everyone sees him in the movie. You know he's gonna be badass on screen.

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DavidT wrote:.
I think movie Devastators popularity will increase after everyone sees him in the movie. You know he's gonna be badass on screen.

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Wouldn't be shocked to see him become the Ultimate Bumblebee type fig...shelf warmer until x-mas time hits, then suddenly the hot holiday toy. But I wouldn't be shocked to see him sitting on the clearance rack either.

Well, here's my current outlook for 2009.

Animated Soundwave w/Ratbat- Probably going to get. I like the black repaint they gave him, and the keytar Ratbat just looks too cool to pass up.

Animated Arcee- I need this. Looks like the best Arcee figure yet, in my opinion, and I've passed up every other Arcee figure that's been released in my lifetime.

Movie Devastator- Pass. That thing doesn't look too good. Maybe if it's on clearance later on in the year? But I'm probably just going to buy the individual pieces, even if they don't combine.

Movie Retools/Remolds (Optimus Prime, Starscream, Ironhide, ETC)- Pass on all. I got them from the first movie, why would I need another one that looks a little different? Although the Starscream with hands looks nice...

Movie Sideswipe- REALLY nice figure, the only Movie figure I KNOW I must get.

Move Skids/Mudflap- I think their faces are funny, but I still think the figures are great.

Movie Scouts- Awesome alt ideas! A forklift is something that definately perks my interests.

Universe Legends- Need them all. Just depends if I can ever find them. Never had too much luck with the popular Legends figures.

Bumble Spud- I can't believe they're making another one. Still, if they had to pick another character, makes sense for it to be Bumblebee. And awesome name choice.

I've got to admit, I'm....confused. Very confused about Devastator. I simply have trouble visualizing them marketing 'Does not Transform' transformers...you would really think Hasbro would have learned from the Actionmaster debacle...

That said, I have high hopes for the transforming Cons to be able to combine....somehow...even as I admit that that would make No sense. It does please me that theres no mold cloning going on...and I'm Very curious about Mixmaster. Does Dev's mouth open up as a cannon?

I'm not sure if it;s been done yet because i haven't read through all the pages but lets all take a sec. and give a BIG thanks to Ryan (and staff?) for going through the trouble of getting these pics for us fans!

that being said here's my 2 cents...

im really dissipointed with most all the movie figs...
but im really happy (like a lot of you) that i'll be saving quite a chunk of change. however i would have been happy to shell out $$$ for AWESOME movie toys... i still think the movie will ROCK and i think it might even make it more enjoyable without having to worry about tracking down all the toys.

but who knows, in the end i might cave and end up collecting the whole set, only time will tell. but as for my first impressions of the movie line... Hey where the smilie of the guy throwing up?

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Arcee...
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Electro-Static Soundwave w/ Ratbat....

Arcee looks tiny. Is she a scout class? What's up with the two hill-billy Transformers? I thought it was a joke when someone mentioned "hill-billy robots" last month. But now I see that it's no joke.

The Devastator fiasco doesn't surprise me. Hasbro probably chose to go this route just to make more money. There will be folks who will buy the Gestalt version and then spend extra money to buy the non-gestalt version just to obtain the robot modes. It's all about the all mighty dollar.

NotEnoughKibble wrote:

JayDee wrote:I'm not jumping on the Devastator bashing wagon -yet. I will be disappointed if this is the only Devastator set, but I have not seen the rest of the Constructicons in their Voyager or Deluxe version, other than Demolishor and Rampage... and those two have the possibility to turn into parts of Devastator. I remember seeing one of the first Demolishor pics and the tracks can be placed at the shoulders, similar to what this vehicle-only Devastator counterpart does. And if you look closely to Deluxe Rampage, he has enough joints to easily be transformed into Devastator's left leg (and I think he has proper feet, just mistransformed.)

If that were the case it would render the set displayed rather pointless, no? What I don't understand is why Demolishor's "bot" mode blows so majorly when it's not even a compromise for the sake of forming Devastator...

I agree - if the individual robot Constructicon toys were capable of merging together, then why wouldn't Hasbro display that during the Toy Fair event? In addition, the packages don't mention gestalt on them.

The Demolishor bot mode is very silly. I can only imagine that they are trying to make the toy true to the movie.

Holy CRAP!!! Did you see ROTF Rampage??? YES, HE DOES LOOK LIKE BONECRUSHER!

I will be waiting for a G1 redeco of that Devastator.
Why is Bonecrusher and Jazz included in that "Devastator final showdown" car set?

Stormrider wrote: The Devastator fiasco doesn't surprise me. Hasbro probably chose to go this route just to make more money. There will be folks who will buy the Gestalt version and then spend extra money to buy the non-gestalt version just to obtain the robot modes. It's all about the all mighty dollar.

Finally! Someone gets it! This wasn't a mistake or a 'lack of engineering technology' as some have suggested -- it's just old fashioned greed. Hasbro has played us for 25 years now, and they're getting craftier at separating us from our money with each successive toyline. The only reason for Hasbro to make two versions of Devastator is a sneaky attempt to make more money.

C'mon, let's be honest, we justify buying the same piece of plastic THREE TIMES simply because the toy is colored differently (i.e. Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker). That doesn't sound like good judgment to me, but I fall for it nevertheless. Hasbro is at the top of its game when it comes to doubling (or tripling) their money off of one product.

Frankly, this Devastator business is a little bit too far for me, though. Once they start selling us non-transforming figures from a toyline called 'Transformers,' you gotta take a step back and look at what they're handing us. As someone mentioned before, 'Robot Replicas' were shelfwarmers last time around, and I have a feeling that history will repeat itself there. Remember the last time Hasbro 'jumped the shark' with non-transforming bots? We witnessed the end of the G1 era with Action Masters! It took years for the line to recover!

I actually like the new Devastator mold, but I sure as hell won't spend $100 on a gestalt without individual robot modes, especially since it's highly likely that Hasbro will release an 'ultimate' Devastator edition sometime in the near future with fully transforming bots that combine, too. Look, if Hasbro could make fully converting gestalts happen in 1985, why can't they make it happen now? (and on a bigger scale to work with, no less...) I love the look of the new movie figs (Sideswipe and revamped Starscream are bitchin'!), but I'm not gonna fall for Hasbro's hocus pocus with the Devastator thing this time.

On that note, I truly hope that everybody who partakes in the Devy giftset is happy with their purchase and doesn't regret spending the money, but I have a distinct feeling that I'll be much more satisfied spending $12.99 on Sideswipe than $100.00 on an alt-mode only Devastator.

Let's hope ROTF kicks some butt!!!

Am I the only one that really likes Devastator (Combiner not Power Ranger version)? We know that the deluxe size have robot modes, or at least Rampage. Not sure how much I would pay for it though. I would probably but them seperately to spread the cost a bit. Who wants to bet Breakaway will not make it to the movie?

OK, this Devastator is an uber-epic-fail for me. What I don't get is> the transforming voyager red constructicon is called Demolishor here, while the non-transforming torso part has SCVNGR sign on him? Can anybody please explain?

This is the super big secret hasbro was protecting from the media and people????!!!!Looks like the hot air is out of the bag man.

Kids bought a combiner instead of a power ranger megazord or voltron robot because they wanted more than just 1 big figure. The movie devastator is such a letdown. Dudes come on. It looks nice but wnat the heck is going on? Kids might buy devastator but for its size I think its gonna be pricy anyway. If its a question of articulation, I don't think this figure is anymore flexible than a normal combiner. Is someone gonna pose him like he's doin a sommersalt or handstand? Look at the RID,beastwars and energon combiners.Were they that difficult to make?

What's up with the twins? When they reformated to earth vehicles they happened to see picasso's art and decided to look like it? Or like bumblebee lost his voice fighting meatron in the prequel comic did megatron knock their heads together or with a shovle for them to look like that?Or did hasbro hire people who were severely myopic to design the heads?

Overall I think that What are the guys in hasbro doing? Are they trying to do bad designs so that we would save money over the economical crisis?I guess this is what you get from a company doing coporate restructing before an economical crisis.Minimum manpower + maximum hours = alot of nothing.

hi guys! i know everyone's been talking about devastator and how awesome this guy is but are there any ideas on size of the human alliance figures? is it voyager or deluxe size?...im more interesteed on the bumblebee one. thanks!

Ugh Devastator looks like crap, look at those tiny legs.

I hope the normal Constructicon figures (deluxe and voyager) are able to combine into Devastator. I don't like buying those and having to buy another set that is only vehicle modes and that CAN form Devastator. That just defeats the whole purpose of the Transformers toyline.

devastator sure is huge, but I should reallly consider if it worth purchasing.
good poseability,no loose joint or connection whatsoever than I might get it..

Has anyone seen the amazing likeness of Sideswipe to BW Depthcharge, both his body and head have a lot of inspiration of BW Depthcharge. I think this of him being a Stingray car and all.

Sideswipe:


Depthcharge:

I was tempted by Dev but if i wanted a Megazord (and i AM talking about the combining version) there are better more experienced models being made by the Power Rangers im afraid.

I will be buying the "Electorstatic Soundwave" no matter what. I guess Hasbro couldn't get the trademark for Soundblaster.

some of these look great, but A: Devastator looks mighty short standing next to that voice changer helmet, B: WHY NO MEGATRON????.
That said, i'm really excited about all the new releases this year, not just ROTF I must have that Electrostatic Soundwave/Ratbat deal, I'll call him Soundblaster. And I wonder why so many toy designs from ROTF that we have already seen leaked are missing from their display. No Megatron in any form. I saw no Ravage figure, no Fallen, and that biplane figure(barnburner or whatever it was), and the ship figure were missing. Hasbro's toying with me.

Finally we have a start date for Season 3. Yes!

I don't get all the uproar over Devastator... we knew he was going to have a combining version with no robot modes months ago. Granted the price is crazy considering there are no bot modes. I wonder if he can stand with his legs bent like they are in the display. Seems like a lot of weight that those knee joints have to support.

Anyway, Arcee looks so fricking awesome. And I'm so getting another Soundwave with that crazy looking keytar Ratbat.

MegatronTheGreat wrote:I will be buying the "Electorstatic Soundwave" no matter what. I guess Hasbro couldn't get the trademark for Soundblaster.

Either that or they want the name recognition for the younger audience that Animated is hypothetically aimed at. I don't think many of the kids saw "The Headmasters".

Looking at the Jetfire (legens)picture. The first thing that came to mind, was that its really slim like The Fallen. And the head is in the same position, so who knows, maybe The Fallen Really becomes Jetfire ???

LOVE THAT ARCEE.

Ratbat is win, too!

The movie line doesn't look bad...just not what I want to spend money on. I'll certainly enjoy the movie, though!

I wonder if people are allowed to flip through those books on display? It would be an easy way to see some of the other bots from the movie...

I'm going to be buying all of the Universe and Animated figures I saw. I was actually quite impressed with the movie figures. I didn't really like the faces of Skids and Mudflap, but the rest looks good. I don't think I'll be buying the legends and I really doubt that I'll buy the RPM's. I guess I'm the only guy interested in the 100 dollar Devastator. I wanted to have just him standing in my collection, and if money allows, I'd like to buy all of the separate non-combining constructicons too. I don't transform them back, I like to leave them in robot mode and occasionally pose them. I better start saving now. Lol.

i dont know what every is complaingin about devastator for we dont know that there is only going to be 2 of him one that combines & other only for robot mode in some of the combined form of him in pictures if you look closley at rampage you can clearly see on rampage shovle thing hes got 2 slots where devastator leg connects to in robot mode picture and vehical mode so one or 2 may not transform into robots but the other limbs may transform into bots/limbs in the set.

http://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=105&size=1&image=7

http://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=105&size=1&image=6

look closly at the joint connecting to rampage in this image & compare that leg with the top 2 some may actually transform into bot modes others may not like the head
http://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=105&size=2&image=16

i was toysrus one day i over heard mother talking to her 6 year old how about transformer he said no i dont want trasnfomrer there to hard to transform & the package clearly states ages 5+up

I didn't read all eleven pages to see if anyone else mentioned this, but Devastator looks like a rancor from StarWars. Not a complaint, just an observation.

El Duque wrote:I didn't read all eleven pages to see if anyone else mentioned this, but Devastator looks like a rancor from StarWars. Not a complaint, just an observation.

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Yes indeed he does....
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Something in my brain was telling me he looked familiar.

Duh, he looks like a rancor. I was thinking gorilla.

Here's my two cents on Devastator. I'm not sure why everybody keeps saying he's a non-transforming TF. He's six construction vehicles that "transform" into a giant robot? Now before everybody goes into attack mode, I understand the complaint and I'm also an old school Devy fan. I got the G1 giftset when I was in grade school and have every incarnation since. Would it be better if each vehicle had a bot mode and could combine, of course it would. I'm okay with having one big ass Devastator and a set of smaller individual transforming figures if that's what if takes to get the job done. We all knew going in that if Devy was going to be in the movie he would be radically different from anything we have seen before, but at least he retains some aspects for the original concept. He's made of six constructions vehicles just like the original, that each have their own personality it would seem. Would people have been more happy if Devy had been one singular bot that split into six alt modes that shared one personality and had no individual bot modes? Personally that's what I thought we would get and I would have been cool with that. I was plesantly surprised that each piece would have an individual bot mode.

I said it when the "twins" pics were first leaked before the post was pulled and I'll say it again. WTF is up with the Furby heads?!?!? Devastator looks like something Ravage left in his litterbox. And there's gonna be a class action suite with Johnny 5 and Wall-E going against Wheelie. Bay needs to stop putting his 2 f'n cents in. Leave the Bots & Cons designs to the company that's been doing it for 25 years. I mean look at what THEY can do: the new Prime fig looks AWESOME, that "Human Alliance" Bumblebee looks next to perfect (are there others to come in this group???), Sideswipe (still think he should be called Tracks) is sick as hell, and even the FAB of Volt looks better then some of these figs. Not to mention that they've hit the proverbial gold mine (or energon mine if you prefer) with their Classics/Universe line. Now don't get your Arcee panties in a bunch and leave a stupid reply in the lines of "If you don't like it then don't go see the movie." I've been a TF fan since my dad got me the original Prime when I was a wee protoform. So I'm going to see this movie just like I did the last one, which was many times. I'm voicing my opinion, I've spent several thousands of dollars on this franchise, I think I can say what ever I f'n want.

As for Animated: SWEET!!!! An Arcee we've been waiting for, a NEW Ratbat with Soundblaster, and Wreck-Gar (cue Weird Al CD). I certainly hope that Hasbro doesn't stop after season 3. This is a BIG hit they have and they would be stupid to do so. If you want to argue that G1 was only 3 & 1/2 seasons I will argue that there were 98, that's N-I-N-E-T-Y E-I-G-H-T, episodes. Where as if they end after season 3 there will be between 42 and 50, if we're lucky.

And for those of you who keep talking about possibilities in the movie: Jetfire IS the Fallen, Ravage is looking for Megs (who may appear as there are forthcoming products with his new tank form), Ratchet isn't killed (but hopefully one or both of the twins are), Skorponok is back, if Rampage does appear then he's either Bonecrusher's "sibling" or him reformatted, the same with the Audi-con and Blackout, not even sure if all the vehicles will transform that form Contsruticon/Devastator most likely Demolishor will just grab other vehicles (the "Constructicon Assortment" set ONLY combines and the transformable Rampage and Demolishor aren't even the same class) and just to make everyone mad the movie will end with a cliff-hanger that will have you going "WTF when's the next one coming out???"

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Sledge wrote:Please, stop. You're just throwing out unsupported assertions here. I'll point you at RID Landfill and Rail Racer as examples of better combiners. Not that complex, but they stil managed individual robot modes.

People can have their own opinions.
This is the second time tonight I have been alerted to you and the disrespect of others opinions.

It might only be the first time, cause I think this is Earth2 Sledge. Last time I attempted to discuss gestalts with him I was in the wrong for suggesting that modern technology could make a good combined robot our of multiple smaller Transformers. Yet here we are a few weeks later and he's saying more or less what I was, and of course, since he's saying it, its gospel.

Yo member Dragons!! Just an observation from the evidence you provided. Look at the pics you compiled man.The treads of the vehicle on the deluxe figure and devastator don't match man. The wheels are also different sizes. Dude the transformable deluxe figures don't combine man.
unless hasbro has made one secretly somewhere & hasn't shown it yet.....

Okay, I'm getting a little confused. Here's what I thought:

The $100 Devastator will be six construction vehicles that combine into one giant two-foot figure. They will not have individual bot modes.

The separate Constructicon Voyagers and Deluxes will have robot modes and will not combine.

Is this how it is, or do I have it wrong?

SoundGearsShock wrote:Okay, I'm getting a little confused. Here's what I thought:

The $100 Devastator will be six construction vehicles that combine into one giant two-foot figure. They will not have individual bot modes.

The separate Constructicon Voyagers and Deluxes will have robot modes and will not combine.

Is this how it is, or do I have it wrong?

That is correct. I think some are just posting without reading the previous posts or are in a bit of denial and still holding out hope.

so, when in 2009 do these toys come out? Im young, so i get allowence, and not payed by the hour

glassesguy wrote:so, when in 2009 do these toys come out? Im young, so i get allowence, and not payed by the hour

The first preview figures (Soundwave and Bumblebee) will be out in early May, and the first full wave of stuff will be out at the end of May, with newer stuff coming out regularly before the movie and later on during the summer & fall.

OK. Having looked through all the figures (that wook a while) I have few more observations.

1. We're not seeing a number of figures we know are in the movie: Wheelie, Jetfire, Arcee/Motorcycle trio, Audi 'Con, Ravage, the Fallen. I'm looking forward to seeing these guys.

2. I'm going to reiterate by earlier assertion that Hasbro doesn't want a combiner that is too complicated. Children have very short attention spans. If you make something that is too complicated, the kids get frustrated and mad and just won't play with it. As a result Hasbro has to balance the complicated look and engineering of the movie bots with the potential abilities of the 5-9 y/o target audience. Rail Racer was a fairly complicated combiner, yes. All three bots had alt modes and decent robot modes. I may be in the minority here, but I always felt there was something odd about the proportions for those figs...and they lakced some poseability in minor cases. The Landfill figs were also decent, but again lacked some poseability, especially in combined mode. Rail Racer may had the best, most poseable combiner mode ever. But consider he was only made of three figs. Lastly on Devs, again this boils down to ILM and when they got the final models for the figures to Hasbro. Since we are JUST NOW seeing renders, I'd wager that Hasbro only got the designs within the last six months. That means that they will have had to rush to get these toys ready. Shortcuts will have had to be made. I'm going to give them some time before we see an actual combiner with 6 individual alt modes and robot modes. Like I said, wait for the premium line.

3. This line is going to be enormous. I don't know if we will have seen so many TF's out at once since the mid to late 1980's. I am going to be SOOOOO broke.

4. Sledge I respect your opinion. All I ask is that you respect mine. Your response was a little harsh IMHO. I'm happy to have a constructive discussion but putting down my opinions was uncalled for.

5. If Season Three is in fact the end for the Animated line, what comes next? I'm sure we'll see another cartoon, but from where will it come from? And what can we expect to see? I'm not including the Universe line here as it is more for us old farts anyways...I mean, a line for the youngsters.

6. Will we be seeing more of the Marvel and Star Wars Crossover lines at Toy Fair? Or are they pretty much back-burnered at this point?

Idk most of the movie stuff looks kinda meh. I loved the first movie line but this one just seems... kinda cruddy. I like prime but from the pics he looks kinda messy let's just hope that he was just transformed wrong. Sideswipe is the only one there that I really like and will buy. I'll prolly get the new bumblebee and the alliance one but I dunno what else. I feel really cheated by Devistator the thing is a freakin MEGAZORD!!!! I'm not wasten $100 on that thing. Maybe when in goes on clerence. The twins are just epic fail Mudflap looks like a gremlin reject and Skids looks better but he looks really kibbley. But maybe they'll grow on me once I see the movie who knows? Animated stuff is meh soundwave is a pass and Arcee I'll havta think about. But I still have hope for leader Jetfire and hopefully leader Fallen.

Well, I really wanted to pass on all movie figs. this time around...
Looks like the only ones I'm evenly remotely interested in are:

Leader Prime
Sideswipe
Rampage
Deadend

All others are a VERY easy 'pass' for me...
I'd only get a few of those on a buy-2-get-one deal or major sale.
Hell, I'm not even wanting that Soundwave figure!!!!

It's actually nice knowing this, and will make it easier to justify spending big money if/when more Universe Classics are released.

I do like the design of Devastator, and think the toy LOOKS really good...
But obviously, as a toy, especially as a combiner, it's lacking.
Big time.

Quote shadowtyger00 Re: Transformers News from Toyfair 2009!!!!
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Yo member Dragons!! Just an observation from the evidence you provided. Look at the pics you compiled man.The treads of the vehicle on the deluxe figure and devastator don't match man. The wheels are also different sizes. Dude the transformable deluxe figures don't combine man.
unless hasbro has made one secretly somewhere & hasn't shown it yet.....

whats with the yelling shadowtyger00 ver since the first picture of devastator in movie, and toy form everyone has been real touchy about this combiner figure ok i will admit i was looking that closey at the details but i was just posting out to calm everyone down about the subject i will admit some of the figures look like crap and maybe worse on the big screen if they look anyhting like there toy counter parts but theres nothing we can do about it and hasbro isnt going to change it no matter how many patetins we have made or signed so hasbro is famous for screwing some things up on some figures but look at ther some few great ones that are coming out in the movie series.