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Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

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Every two weeks, Seibertron.com brings you a Top 5 list related to all things Transformers written by me, your fellow editor. These are my opinions (just like movie or game reviews hosted by sites are still just the opinion of one person) so what matters most is what you guys think of the topic or list, and I hope to see your own lists or comments on omissions and ranking. Let's have fun! All previous lists can be found here.

Top 5 Scout / Legends Class Transformers

The next two lists will be focusing on the little guys. We will start with the Scout/Legends class, which is one of the more awesome classes in Transformers history. What is important about this class is how it had characters you wouldn’t find in any other size. These weren’t the Legion or Cyberverse version of a character. These were full fledged characters that had a class of their own and whose detail and complexity was meant to be proportional to the larger bots they scaled with. Due to the lower price point and lesser resources allotted to them, designers were pushed to making the most of this class so that these toys could pose right next to the more expensive and bigger toys that they scaled with. The idea of beauty intertwined with simplicity is in full force in this class and I am glad the Generations line still has a place for it even though it might have changed name (they are currently called Legends as of 2013), and I really felt like celebrating these little guys. This shouldn't be confused with the even smaller class which has been called Legends/Cyberverse/Legion, which is more focused on repeating mainline characters at a smaller scale. We will cover those in two weeks!


5. Transformers Cybertron Scrapmetal (Ramble)

The Cybertron/Galaxy Force line had one of the best scout class lines ever. These guys were highly detailed and had transformations almost as complex as the deluxe class (definitely more complex than Thunderblast) and getting all this at that price point was awesome. My favourite of the bunch was Scrap Metal, and this was even before I learnt of the homage to the G1 cassettes. I just love how he looks in robot mode. He also has perfect articulation, any alt mode kibble is integrated into his limbs and chest and his weapon looks immense while bearing no impact on this stance (good job guys!). He also has a very intriguing alt mode that looks like a four legged mechanical insect (spider or ant), that looks like something an evil scientist would create and shrink down to invade the blood stream. And he comes in a bunch of colors for some fun troop building.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys


4. Transformers Generations Cosmos and Blackjack

I think these two are the best examples to show how the Legends class can be a decent successor to the Scout class that came before. This class is comparatively complex, detailed and posable as the deluxe class, and bordering on the same height as the Scout Class of old:

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

For Cosmos, I am so very impressed with the robot mode they were able to pull off given the Adamski UFO alt mode (if anyone was curious, that’s why he’s called “Adams” in japan). It is leagues beyond what the engineers were able to come up with before and, regardless of scale, this is a mini masterpiece Cosmos to me.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

As for Blackjack, I am just so impressed with how original the transformation is. You would think that after 30 years, we would have seen it all, but this little dude just struts along with a novel way to end up with the back half of his roof as his chest (homaging both the Black Jack Micromaster as well as the far more similar looking Battlechangers simultaneously!). All this while being fully concealed in a super sleek vehicle mode, even when looking underneath it, and with perfect ball jointed articulation.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys


3. Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Skystalker

Skystalker is as good as people say he is and that is a huge endorsement. Before I got hi, I thought he’d be overhyped. But no, its a great small package. I really like his head sculpt, its perfectly decepticon-like, and he has loads of play options for a scout. He can combine with Mindwipe (though it’s not as elegant as I thought it would be) and he has two intricately shaped c clip weapons integrated which you can apply to other transformers like Deluxe Warpath and Darkmount. What I like best about him though is how he proves that the movie aesthetic can actually work since he (and Mindwipe) have very accomplished and realistic vehicle modes that work well with the robot mode.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys


2. Transformers Hunt For The Decepticons Breacher

Speaking of mini masterpieces earlier, I give you HFTD Breacher. When I first saw a picture of the figure, I could not wrap my head around the fact that it was a scout class figure. It looked (and turned out being) as intricate, detailed and complex as any other deluxe or voyager TF. The fact that he has so many panels and parts for a smaller toy does make him refreshingly challenging too. And that headsculpt is a perfect culmination of the transformers brand at that point, incorporating the highly detailed aspects of the film while still being classic rather than overly alien. Add to that the interaction with HFTD Seaspray as well as the C clip weapon and you just can’t go wrong. He would have been number one, but I couldn’t ignore the originality of the next pick.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys


1. Transformers Energon Divebomb (Shadowhawk)

As much as I would want to bash some toys from the Energon line, this is where the Scouts first started gathering the legendary status they now have today (which I hope won’t be forgotten, hoping this article can help). I did not collect the energon line when it came out so many of the toys on this list were acquired just months apart, and I can say without nostalgia clouding my mind, that this early example of the Scout class is still the best one we ever got. It’s all about how simple yet imaginative it is. Firstly, the bird mode is great with its headscuplt, the expanding wings and even the neat little tail section. What blows my mind is how these three sections end up becoming, respectively, the hands, the legs and the head. That’s right, even though all his robot bits are exposed in alt mode, you wouldn’t know it was them. And yet they totally fit the bill in robot mode. The legs are massive and imposing and the hands have a great grip for the energon weapons these scouts were known to have. The leg transformation is brilliant and I have never seen it replicated elsewhere. Terradive, another favourite, does have jet wings that end up at his legs but not AS his legs. Divebomb ends up being unique then, with two modes that are accomplished and unique, even though they use the same parts, thus giving him full alt mode integration and no kibble in either mode. This toy is a stroke of genius.

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys

Transformers News: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys


Honourable mentions: Oh way too many, so please let me know in the comments who you guys like best (you can access it by clicking on "View discussion"). The Energon, Cybertron and Revenge of the Fallen line had such strong Scout Class toys. As much as the movie aesthetic and toys might get a bad rap, this is something they did right. It also helps that the scouts from the first movie line were borrowed from the Cybertron line ;)

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Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804173)
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 9th, 2016 @ 8:30am CDT
Wooooo! Scouts!

Skystalker is my absolute favorite TF toy, I even bought the Sunspot repaint (who I gave an alternate head transformation to).
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RotF Scouts were both well done (except for the Doctor...) and had an amazing variety of unusual alt modes. We had a bi-plane (Ransack), a 30s car (Hubcap), a forklift (Dirtboss), a chopper motorcycle (Brimstone), a stealth boat (Depth Charge), and even a flipping TOASTER (Ejector)!
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I'll always have a soft spot for my childhood toys, Terrorgator and Buzzclaw. Their fellow Predacon Fuzor Quickstrike is pretty amazing, I don't think you could possibly improve on him.

Cosmos is great, though he needs a bit more weight in his 'boots' and for his head to be cast in red instead of just being painted that color - the transformation guarantees it'll get chipped.
Shockwave and the Insecticons are good, too.


I kinda want to mention some PCCs, but I think they already got their own list? Or at least they get brought up a lot in other threads.

I also want to bring up HA Basics, but I don't think they're quite on the same level as the other Scounts. Still, Icepick and Tailpipe were good. And the weapon modes lent themselves to all sorts of shenanigans:
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Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804177)
Posted by steals_your_goats on July 9th, 2016 @ 8:42am CDT
Ooh how I love scout/legend figures. Super happy to see breacher on here because he is phenomenal. Personally I'd say that Sunspot is better than Skystalker, mostly because that's the one I got, but his bright white and yellow colors are so much fun and he's still somehow a decepticon.

My personal top five from my own collection are (in no order):
Breacher
Fire Trap
Sunspot
Hatchet
Blackjack

Easy runner ups though are dirt boss (that forklift alt is perfect), botcon reflector and combiner wars huffer.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804188)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 9th, 2016 @ 9:37am CDT
I was worried there for a moment will, I was getting ready to message in anger that you had forgotten all about the energon scouts :-P but I get to number 1# and all is right with the world :-D

Divebomb is simply fantastic, he's one of my favourites to get off the shelf and mess around with and I'm highly tempted to get more and give him a flock or a murder

Great list will, especially on a hard topic like this with many choices to sort through.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804194)
Posted by MaverickPrime on July 9th, 2016 @ 10:09am CDT
Just a top 5? C'mon Will, this deserved at least a top 10! : P
A good list(I assume Shockwave is out due to being a small scale version of a big character), but…how could you leave out Beast Wars entirely? My all-time favorite is and will always be my very first, Claw Jaw :3
But yeah, ROTF and Energon had stellar Scout classes!
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804195)
Posted by Randomhero on July 9th, 2016 @ 10:11am CDT
As always a great list. My favorite for past few years has been the United two pack of rumble and frenzy but the cybertron scrap teal has a place in my heard because before we got that two pack, red scrap metal was my classics rumble.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804205)
Posted by Microraptor on July 9th, 2016 @ 10:49am CDT
I love scouts! But why no Windcharger? He was fantastic!
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804207)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 9th, 2016 @ 10:55am CDT
I've never been a fan of the smaller classes (don't dislike them, just never cared) until Combiner Wars. I really like the small figures that came in this line, so my list will be all CW.

5. Shockwave/Reflector
4. Warpath
3. Powerglide
2. Rodimus/Blackjack (more so Rodimus, because of the colors)
1. Bombshell (best. legends toy. ever.)

Honorable mention: Legends Groove/Wreck-gar (for the extra function as a weapon/armor)

I must also note the I loved both the G1 Micromasters and the Armada Mini-Cons.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804232)
Posted by Randomhero on July 9th, 2016 @ 11:54am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I've never been a fan of the smaller classes (don't dislike them, just never cared) until Combiner Wars. I really like the small figures that came in this line, so my list will be all CW.

5. Shockwave/Reflector
4. Warpath
3. Powerglide
2. Rodimus/Blackjack (more so Rodimus, because of the colors)
1. Bombshell (best. legends toy. ever.)

Honorable mention: Legends Groove/Wreck-gar (for the extra function as a weapon/armor)

I must also note the I loved both the G1 Micromasters and the Armada Mini-Cons.


Minicons were seriously the best thing out the entire Unicron Trilogy. I bought every single one including repaints. I even bought the beat wars repaints mostly for the Minicons. I think that's why I like Titan Master so much. I love little guys that link up someway to bigger transformers
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804233)
Posted by TK415 on July 9th, 2016 @ 11:59am CDT
Cool list WJ. I look forward to reading it in-depth. I have been looking at WJ’s Master List for the Top 5 Best Tranformers Lists to see what is up-coming. This way I was able to work on my own list (as recommended by WJ in one of his posts) in order to contribute to the discussion.

Thanks WJ. So cool and fun!


1. Energon Skyblast
Fun, unique vehicle mode. Looks fast and powerful. Robot mode is fun and dynamic. Looks like he can hold his own against deluxes. I love the red and white color scheme. He could definitely be in the Jetfire family/team, but he looks like his own character as well because the robot and alt modes are very different from the Jetfire designs. Easy to transform but interesting. Solid and well built. Great figure.

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Transformers Energon Skyblast (Air Glide) Gallery

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Transformers Energon Skyblast (Air Glide) Gallery


2. DOTM Half-Track
Small, light, fast, and powerful. Smooth and Energetic. He looks and feels like what the FOC Jazz toy robot mode should have been. The head sculpt is cool: face, eyes, color. The helmet (or hair, if you accept that kind of thing in Transformers) has an angular and spiky look but at the same time is swept back and smooth.

When Half-Track is in robot mode the four wheels and his feet definitely look big and are not incorporated smoothly into the robot mode. There are bars and other vehicle parts that stick out. But these things could be seen as weapons, or armor, or shield generators, or sensors, or some other useful accessory.

He has a cool style. I love the blue and gray color design.
Dynamic and lots of energy in the figure. Very posable, great figure.

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3. TFSS Eject and Rewind, and or Takara Rumble and Frenzy
Great detail. Great color application. Besides the tank treads, the robot modes are great, true to the characters and great updates.

For Rumble and and Frenzy it is a very cool way to integrate a classic ability while not making it a partformer. It created a bit of extra parts in the back but still a nice solution.

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Transformers Subscription Service Rewind Gallery

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Transformers Subscription Service Rewind Gallery


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Transformers United Rumble Gallery

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Transformers United Rumble Gallery




4. Battle Unicorn
He’s a unicorn! I know that G1 had monsterbots, and there were a few dragons. They were fun at the time, but they were blocky robots in the shape of monsters. G1 vehicle Transformers felt like actual vehicles that turned into robots. The monsterbots just looked like Transformers in the form of monsters. The original Dinobots are awesome and they look like robotic creatures. The Insecticons looked and seemed like alien or futuristic creatures. Beast Wars gave us convincing, elegant, smooth, metallic or furry creatures.

Meaning:
monsterbots look like Transformers that look like Transformers in their alt modes
Beast Wars look like Transformers that look like real creatures or metal creatures.

Battle Unicorn and his Universe repaint Magna Stampede are rough and tough figures. They are not light weights and look like they can hold their own. Spikes, weapons, abilities. Battle Unicorn is a black unicorn, with beautiful colors. Magna Stampede is a white unicorn with a great color design. Fantasy creature transformers are cool and the two unicorns are done right.


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5. Skystalker repainted as Generations Laserbeak
Great jet mode, unique creepy robot mode. Great color scheme.
WJ wrote good things about him on the top 5 best visible head syndrome.
Like Breacher, Skystalker can connect with a voyager figure, Mindwipe.

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Honorable mentions:



Breacher, nice integration/team work with another figure. Tough, nice design.

BW Transmetals –

Nightglider (Flying Squirrel), Stinkbomb (Skunk), Sonar (bat) and others. Great detail and articulation. Unique and cool looks and feel.

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Transformers Beast Wars Nightglider Gallery

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Transformers Beast Wars Nightglider Gallery

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Transformers Beast Wars Stinkbomb Gallery

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Transformers Beast Wars Stinkbomb Gallery
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804243)
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 9th, 2016 @ 1:05pm CDT
no scout class windcharger? come on man!
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804259)
Posted by SureShot18 on July 9th, 2016 @ 2:21pm CDT
Nice list Will! Can't say I really disagree with you. This just reminds me how I still need to get Breacher and Cosmos. I own Blackjack and Skystalker's repaint Sunspot. Both are great and Sunspot is one of my favorite movieformers. Firetrap is also one of my favorites and an excellent scout as well.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804269)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 9th, 2016 @ 3:25pm CDT
Superb list! And good to see Energon Divebomb on there at number 1. He's one hell of a toy, and easily the best birdformer ever.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804272)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 9th, 2016 @ 3:48pm CDT
Hm i had energon Divebomb found in a charity shop but after transforming it a couple times decided I didn't like and I sold it. I really disliked how chunky the wings were for one. Maybe if he'd has a better paintscheme too I may have liked it more.

I wish I hadn't sold Mindwipe and Skystalker though. As I said on a previous list I loved those and how they interacted without being forced to buy both. They are really not easy to get on eBay for sensible prices either.

Breacher is a great figure. Loved RotF Hubcap too. Also Scattorshot/Flak/Firetrap is a great mold too.

I'd like that Cosmos. Well, I'd like the Scrounge version but I'm not buying the Technobots just for that.

I'd add CW Powerglide. Ok so I have a knock off that's bigger in size but the real Hasbro version is still a beautifully done upgrade of one of my first ever Transformers figures.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804276)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on July 9th, 2016 @ 4:02pm CDT
I have all the guys on this list, except Cosmos and Blackjack. The rest are all excellent, and I agree that Divebomb is awesome!

Personally, my favorite scout/basic/legends class guys are

#5: Icepick (Human Alliance)
#4: Brimstone (Revenge of The Fallen)
#3: Quickstrike (Beast Wars)
#2: Ejector (Revenge of The Fallen)
#1: Smolder (Power Core Combiners)

Of course, this is just a list of the guys I own and currently have on display. I'm sure my list is mutable to include whichever one(s) I dig out of storage. I remember loving how stupid BW Bantor is.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804280)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 9th, 2016 @ 4:27pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:Superb list! And good to see Energon Divebomb on there at number 1. He's one hell of a toy, and easily the best birdformer ever.

I knew there was a reason I liked you
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804281)
Posted by Rainmaker on July 9th, 2016 @ 4:44pm CDT
Yay! Skystalker!

:MAXIMAL:
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804312)
Posted by LordTwann on July 9th, 2016 @ 10:26pm CDT
RTS Windcharger and RotF Ransack get my votes.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804316)
Posted by Emerje on July 9th, 2016 @ 11:48pm CDT
My list is completely different.

5) Beast Machines Scavenger
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What's not to like? It's a vaguely dinosaur-like excavator of destruction with lots of weapons. Best of all the bot mode has ARTICULATED HANDS!! You just don't see stuff like that often at this size class. The chromed fingers were a nice touch and I'm glad they didn't go with Constructicon green on his figure. I actually like the little flip up eyes rather than a full head, it gives him a lot of character. To say he's one of the best Basics in BM isn't saying much, but he's still a really cool little figure.


4) Beast Wars Fuzors Buzzclaw
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For me he's easily one of the funnest Beast Wars Basics around. I normally don't like translucent plastic, but it worked out well on the bug-ish figures of the time. The combination of colors and paint gave a lot of realism to Hasbro's imaginary abomination. Maybe it's just me, but he comes across as both cute and deadly. I love the wings and squeezing articulated mantis arms and somehow that whole section coming off the figure didn't take away any of my enjoyment at all. I've got a few of this figure, there's a reason why BotCon brought this mold back.

3) Transformers (2010)/United Windcharger and Wipe-Out
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The last great Scout figure mold. Maybe not the most accurate character design in the world for Windcharger, but still a great mold. All three versions look great with the Hasbro and Takara Tomy versions of Windcharger both having negligible differences for a change. Wipe-Out does a great job of making the mold work for itself rather than just be a black Windcharger. Looks aside the mold also features the neat morphing hands gimmick where you can spin the hands around into guns. Bonus points for pairing good articulation and little kibble.

2) Combiner Wars Powerglide
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We've wanted a proper Powerglide update for years and the wait finally paid off. Ultra Powerglide was much too big while Dark of the Moon Powerglide was too far into the movie aesthetic (though still a good figure), but CW Powerglide hit the sweet spot. His likeness is near perfect in both sculpt and colors and makes no sacrifices for articulation. It also makes no sacrifices to include a third fairly convincing gun mode that doesn't at all hinder the other two modes.

1) Cybertron Armorhide
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This is a figure that knows how to do everything right. As his name indicates he looks like a rugged mini powerhouse that can take a beating and dish it back out. He has a slick truck mode with a towing rig/crane thing (I turned the hook around), I like that the cab isn't square, but rounded off at the top. Thanks to outside the box thinking the truck has to be flipped over for bot mode with the legs making the top of the truck and the arms making the back, completely backwards from what we often see. In bot mode the articulation is great with lots of ball joints including the neck. Inside his body he's hiding a rack of (non removable) missiles if you stick a Cyber Key in his back. Speaking of the Keys, he's one of the few figures, maybe even the only figure, that has key storage on his massive gun. Plus he has zero kibble. Zero! Have you seen the other scouts in this line? In my opinion Armorhide isn't just the best Scout/Basic/whatever figure of all time, but also one of the best figures in the Cybertron line.

Emerje
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804317)
Posted by Zeedust on July 10th, 2016 @ 12:07am CDT
I think Obsidian, Meantime, and Armada Perceptor are pretty cool, but that's probably just me.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804351)
Posted by Windsweeper on July 10th, 2016 @ 7:41am CDT
I'm sorry but a thousand times No!!!

Scouts and Legends are 2 different sizes and Legends are an abomination.

Combiner Wars Windcharger is significantly smaller than Rts Windcharger.

If Rodimus had been a true scout I'd have been happy but no we got a crap little toy in CW.

I loved the Scout class from the G2 Lasers Rods to Rotf Nightbeat but the legion class has been annoyingly disappointing.

I apologise for the rant but scale is a big issue for me and HasTak and the fandom pissed all over it.

I suppose I should end with my top 5:

G2 Sizzle
BW Terrorsaur
Robotmasters Mirage
Rotf Breakdown
Energon Ravage
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804354)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 10th, 2016 @ 7:58am CDT
I would be interested to see why you think the fandom has "pissed" over scale. I'm sorry to say this but for the most part scale is an arbitrary limit set by us fans. Hastak play ball with this to a certain extent in different ways but they don't have to.

In general, kids don't care about scale.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804356)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 10th, 2016 @ 8:53am CDT
The Energon Scouts in general were pretty great. Ravage could have stood to be a bit more poseable but he's a great toy nonetheless. Cruellock is just awesome. Insecticon is a bit of a brick but he certainly looks the part (and makes a great placeholder for Barrage, at least until HasTak makes one or I can get the FP version). Signal Flare is a bit awkward but has an awesome alt mode, and looks pretty cool in robot mode. Strongarm I don't have but I hear nothing but good things about him. Skyblast just needs knees and he'd be perfect IMO. Arcee again I don't have, but she looks great (even with her fairly useless elbows) and she was one of the first "proper" toys we got of Arcee that wasn't a redeco.

Cybertron had some great Scouts too- Wreckloose is on my want list once I can get back to collecting.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804359)
Posted by william-james88 on July 10th, 2016 @ 9:39am CDT
Windsweeper wrote:Scouts and Legends are 2 different sizes and Legends are an abomination.

Thats too bad you feel that way. Yes the Scout Windcharger is bigger than the CW one but that CW toy is really weak. That Blackjack though (and Cosmos) is an awesome call back to that class with them being as (if not more) complex than any CW deluxe. And as for size, there are scouts which are as big as the current Legends so I found it fair game.

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And yeah, all those in the picture are awesome so while not all got an entry I did want to highlight them and I thought this pic on size comparison was a fun way to include them in the list :) I do love that Scout Frenzy Tank mold, but I do have an issue with how easy it is to trigger the spring mechanic and the arms are really bulky with that mechanism in the back. Still, I think their headsculpt is even nicer than the MP.

I am so thankful for all those who are adding to the discussion, and making your own lists too. Those are some awesome lists TK415 and Emerje, thanks so much for sharing and going the extra mile.

I didnt include the Beast Wars basics because while some do work well with the Scout Class ground rules, the earlier ones dont. I love Beast Wars Terrorsaur, but he and most of those early BW Basics are closer to one steps/activators than Scouts. They have simplified transformations and lack the complexity of the later Beast Wars Basics, especially the Beast machines basics. So, to make things easy and make room for other lists later, I figured I would just stick with the Scout and current Legends Class for now and deal with Basics in another list. Dont know if I will seperate BM from BW, should I ?
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804360)
Posted by Solrac333 on July 10th, 2016 @ 9:47am CDT
When scouts were about 5 bucks, they were fine. Now at about $10, none are worth that price.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804368)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 10th, 2016 @ 10:26am CDT
I would say separate lists for beast wars and beast machines.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804378)
Posted by TK415 on July 10th, 2016 @ 12:26pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I would say separate lists for beast wars and beast machines.

Good point, I'll second that idea. There was such an abundance of both BW and BM that I would love to see a top 5-10 for each. While similar they also have a bit of a different aesthetic and it would be cool to compare apples to apples. Other times I like when lists evaluate Transformers from across all lines.

william-james88 wrote:I didnt include the Beast Wars basics because while some do work well with the Scout Class ground rules, the earlier ones dont. I love Beast Wars Terrorsaur, but he and most of those early BW Basics are closer to one steps/activators than Scouts. They have simplified transformations and lack the complexity of the later Beast Wars Basics, especially the Beast machines basics. So, to make things easy and make room for other lists later, I figured I would just stick with the Scout and current Legends Class for now and deal with Basics in another list. Dont know if I will seperate BM from BW, should I ?


That is interesting and makes sense. Nice sorting and categorization, thorough and accurate.

Thanks, it was fun and rewarding, and more labor intensive than I thought. I thought you were working hard and doing a great job, but now I have even more appreciation for the time and effort that you must be putting into the job. Awesome job, and Thank you. I love seeing, thinking about, and learning about Transformers.

Cool list Emerje.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804418)
Posted by Burn on July 10th, 2016 @ 3:20pm CDT
This was never going to be an easy list to compile, because there's so many contenders.

Lets face it, there are a few scout/legends out there that actually are better than some of their larger brethren.

That being said, I couldn't peg down a top 5 without spending a fair bit of time in "the room", but I am glad to see Breacher made the top 5. He is easily one of the best little figures out there and has always been a favourite of mine.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804438)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on July 10th, 2016 @ 5:42pm CDT
I liked Skyblast with the cartoon Skyfire vibe it had going, it was pretty cool.

Movie Ransack is just metal as [expletive deleted] in robot mode, and a sweet under represented type of plane in alt mode. Love that guy.


I want to love Windcharger, but he never made it out around here.

The recent insecticons were great, but we freakin need Kickback still! Screw Meatloaf, only getting two out of three is bad.

Shockwave is great, but that stupid square peg really wrecks what should be a toy that the other toys can hold, as most now can't.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804453)
Posted by william-james88 on July 10th, 2016 @ 7:04pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:The recent insecticons were great, but we freakin need Kickback still! Screw Meatloaf, only getting two out of three is bad.

I would do anything for a legends Kickback, but I wont do that.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804528)
Posted by Zeedust on July 11th, 2016 @ 1:32am CDT
For real, though, would Armada Perceptor count as a Scout? Because the engineering was actually pretty clever, the alt modes were ones you rarely, if ever, see, the combined mode looked pretty cool, and having a combiner that tiny seemed pretty novel to me, at least at the time.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804546)
Posted by TheForgottenTaxi on July 11th, 2016 @ 8:26am CDT
How has no one mentioned Generations Swerve yet?! He's my number one with a bullet - looks great in both modes, and a spot-on representation of the comic character.

I also second the people saying CW Bombshell deserved to be on the list. He's just a marvel. I like CW Powerglide as well, but Bombshell's the member of the wave that really blew me away.

And for anyone who hasn't gotten their hands on Titan Masters Wheelie yet, believe me when I say he's in contention. His deco is awesome, his transformation is interesting and fun, and he looks good in both modes.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804560)
Posted by Braker on July 11th, 2016 @ 9:31am CDT
If I had to be honest, I thought a good number of the Beast Machines Scouts were pretty interesting and well-done.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804570)
Posted by SureShot18 on July 11th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:How has no one mentioned Generations Swerve yet?! He's my number one with a bullet - looks great in both modes, and a spot-on representation of the comic character.

I also second the people saying CW Bombshell deserved to be on the list. He's just a marvel. I like CW Powerglide as well, but Bombshell's the member of the wave that really blew me away.

And for anyone who hasn't gotten their hands on Titan Masters Wheelie yet, believe me when I say he's in contention. His deco is awesome, his transformation is interesting and fun, and he looks good in both modes.

In my opinion I don't think he's as good as the ones on the list and all the other great scouts. He wouldn't be in my personal top five but maybe my top ten. I'm super excited to get my hands on a Wheelie. He may end bumping Bombshell or Viper out of the top five.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804587)
Posted by william-james88 on July 11th, 2016 @ 11:02am CDT
SureShot18 wrote:In my opinion I don't think he's as good as the ones on the list and all the other great scouts. He wouldn't be in my personal top five but maybe my top ten. I'm super excited to get my hands on a Wheelie. He may end bumping Bombshell or Viper out of the top five.

Same here. For some dumb reason, Canada actually has a street date for TR figures and Wheelie is only coming out in august. So I wont get him till then,but he does look awesome. He will probably appear in a top 5 titans return figure list one day, who knows :)

And about Swerve, he has a real deal breaker for me: no thigh swivel. Sure, lots of awesome older toys don't have it, but they usually sport a playability aspect or timely aesthetic that makes up for it or excuses it. Legends Swerve is a modern update who's main playability is that he is a poseable transforming action figure. But he doesnt pose well and its dissapointing. My first instinct when holding and posing a modern TF figure is giving them a wide and dynamic stance and that is unachievable with Swerve. I mean, for crying out loud, Energon Divebomb who is over 10 years older has 11 points of articulation while Gen Swerve only has 9 (Generations Shockwave has 13 and the activator seekers from animated have 15!).
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804698)
Posted by Noideaforaname on July 11th, 2016 @ 5:50pm CDT
I don't think any of the modern Legends have been quite as good as the previous lines' Scouts (especially not RotF). Legends are a bit smaller, a bit less articulated, and rather lacking in kick-ass alt modes. I still love them, but Shockwave is lacking compared to old Ransack.

(plus, seeing Hasbro drop the Targetmaster without dropping the price will always irritate me)
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804742)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on July 11th, 2016 @ 7:50pm CDT
TheForgottenTaxi wrote:How has no one mentioned Generations Swerve yet?! He's my number one with a bullet - looks great in both modes, and a spot-on representation of the comic character.


Don't have him but Gears is pretty good. If only he came with a little Spider-Man, :lol:
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804775)
Posted by SureShot18 on July 11th, 2016 @ 9:52pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
SureShot18 wrote:In my opinion I don't think he's as good as the ones on the list and all the other great scouts. He wouldn't be in my personal top five but maybe my top ten. I'm super excited to get my hands on a Wheelie. He may end bumping Bombshell or Viper out of the top five.

Same here. For some dumb reason, Canada actually has a street date for TR figures and Wheelie is only coming out in august. So I wont get him till then,but he does look awesome. He will probably appear in a top 5 titans return figure list one day, who knows :)

And about Swerve, he has a real deal breaker for me: no thigh swivel. Sure, lots of awesome older toys don't have it, but they usually sport a playability aspect or timely aesthetic that makes up for it or excuses it. Legends Swerve is a modern update who's main playability is that he is a poseable transforming action figure. But he doesnt pose well and its dissapointing. My first instinct when holding and posing a modern TF figure is giving them a wide and dynamic stance and that is unachievable with Swerve. I mean, for crying out loud, Energon Divebomb who is over 10 years older has 11 points of articulation while Gen Swerve only has 9 (Generations Shockwave has 13 and the activator seekers from animated have 15!).

He's a great representation of the character but that's most of what he's got going for him. As a figure by himself he's not very good. I still really like him but that's mostly because of the character.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1804796)
Posted by Braker on July 12th, 2016 @ 12:03am CDT
Just got TR Rewind today, getting Wheelie tomorrow, I can say without a doubt that Rewind is a wonderful figure.
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1807181)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 20th, 2016 @ 5:47pm CDT
Throwing my opinions onto this list 8 days after the last comment (and because I just found it), I'll have to throw in some ideas of my own.

Powerglide is a wonderful legends. He even pulls off the targetmaster mode, and he is a wonderful legends. Very posable, very nifty, very playable.

Cosmos is well deserved on that list. It is a great legends class dude.

As I have Rewind, I can say that he is an awesome legends too, maybe my favorite since I can carry him around and pretend he's my MP3 player.

Overall, great list, and lots of good legends dudes!
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1874036)
Posted by Kurona on April 12th, 2017 @ 2:04pm CDT
To all the people saying Bombshell's amazing... I... don't quite get it? Nothing about him seems particularly special and he's got a wealth of annoying issues - the Insect legs which go nowhere and always get in the way, the lack of any neck articulation, and the really annoying and pointless arm-gun things which seem to be from an aborted Targetmaster gimmick but only end up making him look weird.
He's far from a bad figure but I'm having a really hard time understanding the praise.


Now that I've got that out the way... fuggit, making my own list! I've only really got figures from the past three Generations lines so no wonders of ROTF or Cybertron here I'm afraid.

5. Combiner Wars Buzzsaw

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Yes, you read that right. Yes, I am absolutely completely serious - I love this bird, even without a Soundwave or even a Blaster to put him in. He's a really fun little desk toy with a simple yet fun transformation, there's a few fun fan-modes to mess around with (especially the alternate wing configuration for bird mode; that's a blast), and that phone mode is just so small it's absolutely adorable and gets me every time. Not incredible, but I love him.

4. Combiner Wars Viper

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An actual Combiner Wars mold this time, and quite the cutie. While he really doesn't manage to pull off the Targetmaster mode well, what he does manage is a nicely articulated 'bot mode with an inspired deco choice and new head in addition to a marvelous little plane mode which easily kicks the T30 Seeker's butt every time. I'm not sure I've seen that dark blue on any other Transformer - maybe Triggerhappy? - but it's an absolute beaut and really helps Viper stand out.

3. Titans Return Rewind

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The only non-CW figure on the list (though really, does Buzzsaw count as a CW figure? Does he REALLY?), and granted he is my only TR Legends figure... but me oh my, does Rewind pull his weight. Much like Buzzsaw his phone mode is such an adorable small size, but what edges him over his fellow Cassette-bot are his other two modes being so much better. The tank isn't the most convincing thing in the world, but it's really fun and does have a decent resemblance to a tank and I find myself endlessly entertained by the turret moving up and down. But the star of the show here is that robot mode, and what a robot mode - my only real problem is that the arms are just a bit too bulky to match the rest of the proportions, but otherwise he's stunning. He looks great, he matches his fictional counterpart well, and that headsculpt is just one of the most wonderful things I've ever seen. The perfect companion for any Chromedome :x

2. Combiner Wars Groove & Rust Dust

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We're right back to the Gestalt Scuffles with a double act; the little motorcycle chest plate dude and dudette! Yeah, I really couldn't choose between the two - both of them rock the mold wonderfully with their own unique and awesome-in-different-ways decos, Groove being the stout little policeman and Rust Dust lighting the way with the rest of her renegades. Their motorcycle modes are lovely and strike a perfect balance between bulk and elegance; scaling quite nicely with their teammates and providing the parts for a rather lanky robot mode that despite first looks comes together very well for a fun and different body shape. I must admit though, Rust Dust almost wins here - her chest armour mode works far better for Victorion than Groove's does for Defensor, and that extra little glass-shatter deco on her chestplate would be that little extra that gives her a place in my heart. And it does. But then I'm a sucker for Groove's colour scheme and he wears the mold made for him perfectly, so both are winners in my book.

1. Combiner Wars Shockwave

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Who else was it going to be? Who else, really, was it ever going to be? I was absolutely flabbergasted to not see Shockwave anywhere on this list because to me, he's the perfect example of a Legends Class figure. Incredibly articulation takes center stage here; thigh swivels, shoulders, elbows and knees, a ball-jointed head - oh, and let's talk about this head, shall we? Actually, let's not, because it speaks for itself in how it's ruddy perfect. The molding is on point, the paint is on point; everything was put into making this robot mode as perfect a representation and update of the character as could be - I can only really criticise the strange translucent plastic for some reason used for the hand and gun, but even that has it's own cool little flair!
And then his transformation! It's simple yet not insulting; clearly using the original toy as a blueprint but going in a very different direction with a lot of ingenuity. It's fun and practically art in legends-class form.
The space gun is pretty damn cute and makes for a good update of Shockwave's original form, though it's a shame the whole purpose of the figure (being a gun for Bruticus) doesn't quite work out as he's too heavy for Bruticus to hold upright. But I don't care! I got him before I completed Bruticus and he's bloody awesome on his own! If other future Legends-scale figures of normal-sized Decepticons are anything like this (please give us Soundwave please give us Soundwave PLEASE GIVE US SOUNDWAVE!!!), then I will be one very, very happy girl. Perfect.

Honourable mentions:-
Honestly, considering Rewind is the only non-CW figure on here, I might as well have just chucked on Chop Shop, called it a Legends CW list and be done with it. He's a really fun little insecticon and a nice new colour scheme (and lovely new head!) for the Skrapnel mold and I had quite a bit of fun with his transformation.
I also like Windcharger/Tailgate a lot more than others. Nice representations of their MTMTE selves with a fun (if very fiddly) transformation into a tiny cutie of a car mode.

I might as well mention that the only other Legends I've got (to memory) are CW Thundercracker and T30 Bumblebee. They're alright. They're decent. Thundercracker would be so much better if he had a head swivel though, so much better...
Re: Top 5 Best Scout / Legends Class Transformers Toys (1885250)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on May 30th, 2017 @ 3:11pm CDT
TR Brawn definitely belongs on the list now. Guy's just swell, if you can find one. (@#$%^ing Hasbro and distribution)

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