Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes
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Every two weeks, Seibertron.com brings you a Top List related to all things Transformers. To celebrate the 20th Anniversary of Beast Wars this year, Shajaki is counting down the Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes from the original computer animated series. These are one person's opinions (just like movie or game reviews hosted by sites are still just the opinion of one person) so what matters most is what you guys think of the topic or list, and I hope to see your own lists or comments on omissions and ranking. Let's have fun! All previous lists can be found here.
Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes
This list was seriously a labor of love. It seems the Transformers were introduced to me at the perfect stages of my life. G1 was a toy commercial, great for the first 5 years of my kiddie life. But Beast Wars with it's more developed stories and themes came out in 1996, and I was just old enough to really appreciate it. But enough of this, there's a lot of words coming at you so let's get started!
This may have been the first example (or just the first time I noticed) how great Megatrons war strategies were in this show. The most important thing was numbers, followed by flyers. In Season 1 the Maximals were at quite a disadvantage in those regards. In this episode Megatron dispatches his two flyers to take out Optimus Primal rather than making it a straight race to the newly fallen stasis pod thus forcing the remaining Maximals to pursue on foot. Also comes Dinobot's first real test of loyalty as he's not only left alone and in charge of the base and a half-scrapped Primal, but tempted by Megatron to rejoin the Predacons with a big fat raise. To which he poetically replies "EAT SLAG!". Good 'ol Dinobot.
Did anyone else think that Terrorsaur was basically the Beast Wars version of Starscream? I sure did, which made "Possession" a little confusing to me. But I digress. The screechy traitor finally has his day in this episode when he stumbles upon a floating mountain of Energon, which he gets accidentally super charged by. So naturally he hightails it straight to Megatron and tears him to pieces. Thankfully he does so quickly because the charge not only fades but puts him at a critical low amount of energy forcing him to crawl back to mountain for another hit. Unfortunately for him however, a flying gorilla battle and rat bomb kinda ruin his future plans. And it seems his new "followers" would rather rebuild Megatron than submit to his command. Really, this episode just feels like a terrific throwback to the what(?) every 12 minutes that Starscream tried to overthrow Megatron in the original Transformers. And you gotta love that.
These episodes are quite significant, as they re-set in motion what started in the series pilot. We are formally introduced to the realization (by Waspinator of all characters) that they are indeed on prehistoric earth, which has grave implications. The Fuzor's also make their debut, which is one of the most creative concepts to come from the franchise. The Maximals fight heroically to what is thought to be their deaths, until the triumphant return of (a now) Transmetal Optimus Primal. And the Spaghetti Western setting adds a bit of well deserved drama and suspense.
Dinobot is attacked by a flower. AND. Oprimus Primal is a stone cold bad-ass. A botched attempt at turning Optimus into a wimp, turns him into a rage monster. And once he's armed to the teeth he blasts his way single handedly into the Predacon base and through each Pred as well. It's actually kind of frightening to see what Primal is capable of once he's let lose of all restraint, and he preforms some pretty gruesome acts. He impales Tarantulas to a wall after walking straight into a barrage of bullets, and Robo-Cop's Waspinator through another. This is also one of the few episodes that Optimus goes "full face-plate" and you know when that happens, look out.
This episode has a number of notable moments, namely a laughing Inferno crushing Waspinator with a jamming station tower (kidding). Far more notable than that though, is Blackarachnia squaring off against Tarantulas. She really showcases her fierce spirit here, her willingness to destroy herself along with her cranial stowaway to regain her freedom (by way of a cracked Energon cube to sever their psychic link) is beyond brave. Another highlight is the awesome fight scene at the end. I recall being impressed with its choreography, it really felt like it was a step up.
The new Dinobot is starting to come into his own as he stalks a misunderstanding Blackarachnia in this episode. Thinking that she's about to be forcefully re-wired back into a Maximal, she goes on the lamb only to be followed by the deadly Transmetal 2 Raptor. After a little cat-and-mouse'ing, he brilliantly leads her into a jamming zone preventing her from calling for backup.
But when they start fighting for real, it's intense. When he's swiping his massive claws as he slowly closes in, the speed in which he sprints and crashes through tree debris like it were paper, is simply terrifying. The Widow gets the upper hand, if only to demonstrate that he's near invincible like his Spark brother Rampage. But even though Dinobot doesn't fall for her side switching deception later, her and a party crashing Silverbolt manage to best him by triple dose cyber venom'ing him to the face and off a cliff into the jungle below. Invincible or not, he'll need time to recover from that.
This was a great way to bring G1 lore into this new of of Transformers. After introducing the concept of the "spark" and spark mutations, this helps make sense of "Starscreams Ghost" from the original series. The intelligent strategies used by both sides in this episode also make for some great story telling. Screamer attacking where they least expect, the Maximals pretending to be gravely injured to regain access to their base, and the king of deception using the Maximals in an attempt to rule over both sides. Not to mention, Doug Parker does a phenomenal take on Starscream and really brings life to the icon.
If I wanted to save myself some time (and many words) I could simply sum up "Nemesis" in one word: EPIC. But for fun, here's the rest of my words. It seems like this is the end for Megatron, but ironically some leftovers from the enigmatic traitor Tarantulas will revitalize his campaign.
There were two ancient Cybertronian ships that came to Earth, the Ark and the Nemesis. The Ark is currently housing the deposed Maximals, and Megatron has just found the behemoth Decepticon warship. Meanwhile in irrelevant-town, Inferno and Quickstrike attack some humans in an attempt to steal their caves while Waspinator declares his resignation from the Predacons (and later their loyalty is rewarded by being flambeed my Megs himself). Jump back to Megatron and Dinobot trying to fire up the Nemesis, and the grudge match of the millennium is about to go down: Depth Charge & Rampage. They cross raw Energon blades until Depth Charge has the upper hand and Rampage... disturbingly submits and allows the blade to pierce his spark. Why? Perhaps all immortals wish for death. Maybe he knew his arch enemy would also die in the process. Or even that he sees life as a cruel joke, signified by his unsettling laughter in his final moments.
We may never know, but Primal mistook their explosive demise as mission accomplished. And yet, the Nemesis rose....
The newly reborn Tigerhawk sacrifices himself by taking the full force of the Nemesis while Primal regroups with the rest of the team.
All the while, the taint of Protoform X has been fading and Dinobot is becoming self aware.... as in, his former self. This ultimately leads him to defy the great dragon in his moment of triumph.
When the Ark can't move and Primal is down, it's Dinobots dissent that buys Rhinox enough time to crash the newly discovered Autobot shuttle through Megatrons control room, plastering him on the windshield. And it's that very shuttle that carries the crew (and roof'ly constrained Megatron) back to Cybertron, leaving a happy and intact Waspinator behind. That marked the end of the Beast Wars and what many feel to be the most impressive pieces of TF lore even to this day.
This was the first time that I realized that this series had a concrete connection to G1. There were plenty of clues before this but as a kid, they for some reason flew right over my head. What's great about this 3 parter? First off, the Tripredicus Council (who were recently immortalized in this years Botcon set).
They give resonance to the notion that the situation is more grand than the (seemingly) simple conflict going on on prehistoric Earth, as Megatron's actions have had consequences on Cybertron that we haven't even seen. Second, Ravage.
Talk about throwbacks! Not only is he formidable, but still Decepticon to the core. Which we see when Megatron reveals the hidden message on the golden disk and turns the Jaguar to his cause. It's his predecessor, the original Megatron and Ravages former Commander instructing his descendants to find the Ark in the distant past and destroy the Autobots, thus altering history in favor of the Decepticons.
When I first saw this scene, it sent shivers down my spine. Which actually happened again when Ravage yells "DECEPTICONS FOREVER" and transforms into cassette mode.
Fortunately for the Maximals, Rattrap decides to show off his exceptional saboteur skills and single handedly takes down Tarantulas, Ravage, his ship, and in turn Rampage as well.
But the chills continue as we see the legendary Ark, ancient Autobots and Decepticons, and Optimus Prime himself as (BW) Megatron tries to wipe him out of existence. "Optimal Situation" aside, Megatron actually succeeds, and to me that gives him legendary status.
Has a character shown this level of depth before in the franchise? Every TF fan out there has likely either seen this episode or at least heard of it, for it brings us the final fate of the much beloved character Dinobot. Some might even argue that it was felt even more than the death of Optimus Prime in Transformers The Movie, I know it was for me.
Megatron discovers that he can change the future, and decides to start by exterminating the human race at its earliest roots. In an effort to save the future and past alike, Dinobot engages the entire Predacon team with total disregard for his own well-being.... and is triumphant. He cuts Inferno in half, blasts Blackarachnia with his stolen gun, squashes Waspinator, forces a backfire on Rampage with the bugs head, and beats Quickstrike with his bare hands. This brings him to the point of no return, where he's about to go into stasis lock but over rides the command as there's still one maniacal Predacon to deal with: Megatron. A villainous speech rock/stick beat-down later, Dinobot subdues his former Leader and destroys the Golden Disk once in his possession with the last ounce of his remaining energy. Megatron furiously flees when the Maximals arrive, but it's far too late for the heroic raptor. He wanted his story to be told truely, and be judged accordingly with the good and the bad. And his former comrades solute him as his spark joins the matrix.
One of the greatest strengths of the Beast Wars series, is it's limited cast. Because of this, we were subject to some incredible character depth and development. Dinobot was no exception. He was in fact the first winner of the Fans Choice Transformers Hall of Fame in 2010. It's no wonder this single episode is held in such high regard. His complexity made him an incredibly interesting character and he was one of the driving forces for the series and the stories within. His strong sense of honor and deep contemplation of his ultimate fate are what motivates him into action. He does some things that he's not proud of, but tries to make amends by giving his own life to save many others. The acceptance of his destiny can be heard in one of his most famous (and final) lines:
Honourable Mentions:
These episodes are dear to my heart, as it is the return (sort of) of my most favorite Transformers character: Dinobot. I can't even describe how much I loved his Transmetal 2 form, he looks like if you touched him, regardless of where, you'd be bleeding. The new look, and the fact that he mostly growls and only has two lines makes him kinda terrifying. And him tearing up Depth Charge was was bad-ass. But the reason this doesn't make the top 10 is because it left me wanting soooo much more. Which we get in "Proving Grounds"!
Thanks for reading folks and stay tuned for my upcoming Top Beast Machines list! Shajaki out!
Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes
This list was seriously a labor of love. It seems the Transformers were introduced to me at the perfect stages of my life. G1 was a toy commercial, great for the first 5 years of my kiddie life. But Beast Wars with it's more developed stories and themes came out in 1996, and I was just old enough to really appreciate it. But enough of this, there's a lot of words coming at you so let's get started!
10. Season 1, Episode 7: Fallen Comrades
This may have been the first example (or just the first time I noticed) how great Megatrons war strategies were in this show. The most important thing was numbers, followed by flyers. In Season 1 the Maximals were at quite a disadvantage in those regards. In this episode Megatron dispatches his two flyers to take out Optimus Primal rather than making it a straight race to the newly fallen stasis pod thus forcing the remaining Maximals to pursue on foot. Also comes Dinobot's first real test of loyalty as he's not only left alone and in charge of the base and a half-scrapped Primal, but tempted by Megatron to rejoin the Predacons with a big fat raise. To which he poetically replies "EAT SLAG!". Good 'ol Dinobot.
9. Season 1, Episode 6 : Power Surge
Did anyone else think that Terrorsaur was basically the Beast Wars version of Starscream? I sure did, which made "Possession" a little confusing to me. But I digress. The screechy traitor finally has his day in this episode when he stumbles upon a floating mountain of Energon, which he gets accidentally super charged by. So naturally he hightails it straight to Megatron and tears him to pieces. Thankfully he does so quickly because the charge not only fades but puts him at a critical low amount of energy forcing him to crawl back to mountain for another hit. Unfortunately for him however, a flying gorilla battle and rat bomb kinda ruin his future plans. And it seems his new "followers" would rather rebuild Megatron than submit to his command. Really, this episode just feels like a terrific throwback to the what(?) every 12 minutes that Starscream tried to overthrow Megatron in the original Transformers. And you gotta love that.
8. Season 2, Episodes 2 & 3 : Coming of the Fuzors
These episodes are quite significant, as they re-set in motion what started in the series pilot. We are formally introduced to the realization (by Waspinator of all characters) that they are indeed on prehistoric earth, which has grave implications. The Fuzor's also make their debut, which is one of the most creative concepts to come from the franchise. The Maximals fight heroically to what is thought to be their deaths, until the triumphant return of (a now) Transmetal Optimus Primal. And the Spaghetti Western setting adds a bit of well deserved drama and suspense.
7. Season 1, Episode 10 : Gorilla Warfare
Dinobot is attacked by a flower. AND. Oprimus Primal is a stone cold bad-ass. A botched attempt at turning Optimus into a wimp, turns him into a rage monster. And once he's armed to the teeth he blasts his way single handedly into the Predacon base and through each Pred as well. It's actually kind of frightening to see what Primal is capable of once he's let lose of all restraint, and he preforms some pretty gruesome acts. He impales Tarantulas to a wall after walking straight into a barrage of bullets, and Robo-Cop's Waspinator through another. This is also one of the few episodes that Optimus goes "full face-plate" and you know when that happens, look out.
6. Season 2, Episode 4 : Tangled Web
This episode has a number of notable moments, namely a laughing Inferno crushing Waspinator with a jamming station tower (kidding). Far more notable than that though, is Blackarachnia squaring off against Tarantulas. She really showcases her fierce spirit here, her willingness to destroy herself along with her cranial stowaway to regain her freedom (by way of a cracked Energon cube to sever their psychic link) is beyond brave. Another highlight is the awesome fight scene at the end. I recall being impressed with its choreography, it really felt like it was a step up.
5. Season 3, Episode 7 : Proving Grounds
The new Dinobot is starting to come into his own as he stalks a misunderstanding Blackarachnia in this episode. Thinking that she's about to be forcefully re-wired back into a Maximal, she goes on the lamb only to be followed by the deadly Transmetal 2 Raptor. After a little cat-and-mouse'ing, he brilliantly leads her into a jamming zone preventing her from calling for backup.
But when they start fighting for real, it's intense. When he's swiping his massive claws as he slowly closes in, the speed in which he sprints and crashes through tree debris like it were paper, is simply terrifying. The Widow gets the upper hand, if only to demonstrate that he's near invincible like his Spark brother Rampage. But even though Dinobot doesn't fall for her side switching deception later, her and a party crashing Silverbolt manage to best him by triple dose cyber venom'ing him to the face and off a cliff into the jungle below. Invincible or not, he'll need time to recover from that.
4. Season 1, Episode 21 : Possession
This was a great way to bring G1 lore into this new of of Transformers. After introducing the concept of the "spark" and spark mutations, this helps make sense of "Starscreams Ghost" from the original series. The intelligent strategies used by both sides in this episode also make for some great story telling. Screamer attacking where they least expect, the Maximals pretending to be gravely injured to regain access to their base, and the king of deception using the Maximals in an attempt to rule over both sides. Not to mention, Doug Parker does a phenomenal take on Starscream and really brings life to the icon.
3. Season 3, Episodes 12-13 : Nemesis
If I wanted to save myself some time (and many words) I could simply sum up "Nemesis" in one word: EPIC. But for fun, here's the rest of my words. It seems like this is the end for Megatron, but ironically some leftovers from the enigmatic traitor Tarantulas will revitalize his campaign.
There were two ancient Cybertronian ships that came to Earth, the Ark and the Nemesis. The Ark is currently housing the deposed Maximals, and Megatron has just found the behemoth Decepticon warship. Meanwhile in irrelevant-town, Inferno and Quickstrike attack some humans in an attempt to steal their caves while Waspinator declares his resignation from the Predacons (and later their loyalty is rewarded by being flambeed my Megs himself). Jump back to Megatron and Dinobot trying to fire up the Nemesis, and the grudge match of the millennium is about to go down: Depth Charge & Rampage. They cross raw Energon blades until Depth Charge has the upper hand and Rampage... disturbingly submits and allows the blade to pierce his spark. Why? Perhaps all immortals wish for death. Maybe he knew his arch enemy would also die in the process. Or even that he sees life as a cruel joke, signified by his unsettling laughter in his final moments.
We may never know, but Primal mistook their explosive demise as mission accomplished. And yet, the Nemesis rose....
The newly reborn Tigerhawk sacrifices himself by taking the full force of the Nemesis while Primal regroups with the rest of the team.
All the while, the taint of Protoform X has been fading and Dinobot is becoming self aware.... as in, his former self. This ultimately leads him to defy the great dragon in his moment of triumph.
When the Ark can't move and Primal is down, it's Dinobots dissent that buys Rhinox enough time to crash the newly discovered Autobot shuttle through Megatrons control room, plastering him on the windshield. And it's that very shuttle that carries the crew (and roof'ly constrained Megatron) back to Cybertron, leaving a happy and intact Waspinator behind. That marked the end of the Beast Wars and what many feel to be the most impressive pieces of TF lore even to this day.
2. Season 2, Episodes 11-13 : The Agenda
This was the first time that I realized that this series had a concrete connection to G1. There were plenty of clues before this but as a kid, they for some reason flew right over my head. What's great about this 3 parter? First off, the Tripredicus Council (who were recently immortalized in this years Botcon set).
They give resonance to the notion that the situation is more grand than the (seemingly) simple conflict going on on prehistoric Earth, as Megatron's actions have had consequences on Cybertron that we haven't even seen. Second, Ravage.
Talk about throwbacks! Not only is he formidable, but still Decepticon to the core. Which we see when Megatron reveals the hidden message on the golden disk and turns the Jaguar to his cause. It's his predecessor, the original Megatron and Ravages former Commander instructing his descendants to find the Ark in the distant past and destroy the Autobots, thus altering history in favor of the Decepticons.
When I first saw this scene, it sent shivers down my spine. Which actually happened again when Ravage yells "DECEPTICONS FOREVER" and transforms into cassette mode.
Fortunately for the Maximals, Rattrap decides to show off his exceptional saboteur skills and single handedly takes down Tarantulas, Ravage, his ship, and in turn Rampage as well.
But the chills continue as we see the legendary Ark, ancient Autobots and Decepticons, and Optimus Prime himself as (BW) Megatron tries to wipe him out of existence. "Optimal Situation" aside, Megatron actually succeeds, and to me that gives him legendary status.
1. Season 2, Episode 9 : Code of Hero
Has a character shown this level of depth before in the franchise? Every TF fan out there has likely either seen this episode or at least heard of it, for it brings us the final fate of the much beloved character Dinobot. Some might even argue that it was felt even more than the death of Optimus Prime in Transformers The Movie, I know it was for me.
Megatron discovers that he can change the future, and decides to start by exterminating the human race at its earliest roots. In an effort to save the future and past alike, Dinobot engages the entire Predacon team with total disregard for his own well-being.... and is triumphant. He cuts Inferno in half, blasts Blackarachnia with his stolen gun, squashes Waspinator, forces a backfire on Rampage with the bugs head, and beats Quickstrike with his bare hands. This brings him to the point of no return, where he's about to go into stasis lock but over rides the command as there's still one maniacal Predacon to deal with: Megatron. A villainous speech rock/stick beat-down later, Dinobot subdues his former Leader and destroys the Golden Disk once in his possession with the last ounce of his remaining energy. Megatron furiously flees when the Maximals arrive, but it's far too late for the heroic raptor. He wanted his story to be told truely, and be judged accordingly with the good and the bad. And his former comrades solute him as his spark joins the matrix.
One of the greatest strengths of the Beast Wars series, is it's limited cast. Because of this, we were subject to some incredible character depth and development. Dinobot was no exception. He was in fact the first winner of the Fans Choice Transformers Hall of Fame in 2010. It's no wonder this single episode is held in such high regard. His complexity made him an incredibly interesting character and he was one of the driving forces for the series and the stories within. His strong sense of honor and deep contemplation of his ultimate fate are what motivates him into action. He does some things that he's not proud of, but tries to make amends by giving his own life to save many others. The acceptance of his destiny can be heard in one of his most famous (and final) lines:
Dinobot wrote:The question that has haunted my being has been answered: The future is not fixed. My choices are my own. And yet, how ironic, for I now find I have no choice at all. I am a warrior... let the battle be joined.
Honourable Mentions:
Season 3, Episodes 5-6 : Feral Scream
These episodes are dear to my heart, as it is the return (sort of) of my most favorite Transformers character: Dinobot. I can't even describe how much I loved his Transmetal 2 form, he looks like if you touched him, regardless of where, you'd be bleeding. The new look, and the fact that he mostly growls and only has two lines makes him kinda terrifying. And him tearing up Depth Charge was was bad-ass. But the reason this doesn't make the top 10 is because it left me wanting soooo much more. Which we get in "Proving Grounds"!
And now, some LAWL's!
Thanks for reading folks and stay tuned for my upcoming Top Beast Machines list! Shajaki out!
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Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789635)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2016 @ 2:35pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2016 @ 2:35pm CDT
I'm surprised to see "Transmutate" excluded from this list since that episode was almost as deep and meaningful as "Code of Hero" was.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789638)
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 2:52pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 2:52pm CDT
I knew I'd have to answer for excluding Transmutate, just not after post #2 
First off, my bias is my own. I know it's an acclaimed episode, but I just wasn't moved like everyone else was I guess. And in a series with such a small cast (due to budgetary constraints) I was always very bitter that that one episode character popped out of that stasis pod rather than a new recurring character. Imagine if we had been given one of the other Fuzors like Torca?
First off, my bias is my own. I know it's an acclaimed episode, but I just wasn't moved like everyone else was I guess. And in a series with such a small cast (due to budgetary constraints) I was always very bitter that that one episode character popped out of that stasis pod rather than a new recurring character. Imagine if we had been given one of the other Fuzors like Torca?
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789646)
Posted by Insurgent on May 14th, 2016 @ 3:10pm CDT
Posted by Insurgent on May 14th, 2016 @ 3:10pm CDT
I would knock out #9 and 10, slide in Transmutate in #3, and either put Other voices or other visits in at #10, because I honeslty can't deicde which of those I like more. The first real 'appearance' of the Vok, a moon that transforms into a doomsday weapon and starts to crack open the planet, Megatron outmanouvering everyone and giving a delicious "Oh you Optmiuses do like to sacrifice yourselves."
Or the first sign that Earth is recovering from the Planet Killer, an emotional loss of Tigatron and Airazor, Megatron getting his hands on alien tech that could grant him victory on Cybertron, and nearly a visit over there, Tarantulas getting betrayed and working with the Maximals to stop Megatron (LOVE his quick departure when he's triggered the transwarp implosion) and a great fight between TM Megatron and TM Primal, something we didn't actually see very much of in those bodies.
Or the first sign that Earth is recovering from the Planet Killer, an emotional loss of Tigatron and Airazor, Megatron getting his hands on alien tech that could grant him victory on Cybertron, and nearly a visit over there, Tarantulas getting betrayed and working with the Maximals to stop Megatron (LOVE his quick departure when he's triggered the transwarp implosion) and a great fight between TM Megatron and TM Primal, something we didn't actually see very much of in those bodies.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789651)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on May 14th, 2016 @ 3:19pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on May 14th, 2016 @ 3:19pm CDT
*Checks the end* Code of Hero is number one? Good. That's the only one I cared about. 
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789653)
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 3:28pm CDT
Other Visits however, aren't my favorite. Certainly nothing wrong with these episodes, but there's enough knocks against it for me. Mainly, I don't care to much about Tigatron and Airazor. I really feel like they were made into second rate characters by them spending so much time off screen. Seriously, in "Coming of the Fuzors", where the hell were they? Would the Maximals even had needed a magically appearing TM Optimus to save them if those two had been there? Maybe I just didn't feel those two were important because they were never there when it really counted.
And the Vok themselves were great in concept. It's just a shame that the series was cut short and we didn't get to explore them as much as they were intended to be.
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 3:28pm CDT
I will agree that that is a spectacular episode and in retrospect, could/should have made my list!Insurgent wrote:Megatron outmanouvering everyone and giving a delicious "Oh you Optmiuses do like to sacrifice yourselves."
Other Visits however, aren't my favorite. Certainly nothing wrong with these episodes, but there's enough knocks against it for me. Mainly, I don't care to much about Tigatron and Airazor. I really feel like they were made into second rate characters by them spending so much time off screen. Seriously, in "Coming of the Fuzors", where the hell were they? Would the Maximals even had needed a magically appearing TM Optimus to save them if those two had been there? Maybe I just didn't feel those two were important because they were never there when it really counted.
And the Vok themselves were great in concept. It's just a shame that the series was cut short and we didn't get to explore them as much as they were intended to be.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789658)
Posted by Zetatron on May 14th, 2016 @ 4:27pm CDT
Posted by Zetatron on May 14th, 2016 @ 4:27pm CDT
Awesome list!! And Kudos, it's hard to narrow down a series like Beast Wars to the top ten, so many great episodes and moments. I think my list would have included "Dark Designs" (I know it's basically the same plot as Gorilla Warfare but with Rinox instead, but it's still a great insight into Rinox's character) "A Better Mouse Trap", "Call of the Wild" and "Dark Voyage"; and that's my short list. I also would have brought up Dark Glass as an Honorable Mention. Even though it was never produced I think Rattrap trying to reconstitute Dinobot's old personality in Dinobot II would have made for an interesting story and a great coda to their relationship, and it would have shown some great character growth for Rattrap. It also would have made Dinobot II's reversion to the original Dinobot in Nemesis make a little more sense.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789659)
Posted by UltraPrimal on May 14th, 2016 @ 4:28pm CDT
Posted by UltraPrimal on May 14th, 2016 @ 4:28pm CDT
While I could nitpick an episode here or there *cough*TheSpark*cough*, but as long as Code of Hero is number one I'm happy.
As for Transmutate, I would argue that it's one of the worst episodes in the series. While I like Transmutate as a character and to a lesser degree the thing with her and Silverbolt and Rampage, the episode itself is probably the most poorly written and put together in the entire show. For example, they call her Transmutate before she's even given that name! And this episode is after Code of Hero and before The Agenda, so it completely breaks the flow from episode to episode. In fact, every episode in season 2 connect together and build upon the story except this one. That and the weird, uncharacteristic behaviour of Optimus and Megatron almost makes me wish this episode didn't exist.
And if there is a Worst of Beast Wars list next week, Go with the Flow, Cutting Edge, Call of the Wild, and Dark Voyage should definitely be on there.
As for Transmutate, I would argue that it's one of the worst episodes in the series. While I like Transmutate as a character and to a lesser degree the thing with her and Silverbolt and Rampage, the episode itself is probably the most poorly written and put together in the entire show. For example, they call her Transmutate before she's even given that name! And this episode is after Code of Hero and before The Agenda, so it completely breaks the flow from episode to episode. In fact, every episode in season 2 connect together and build upon the story except this one. That and the weird, uncharacteristic behaviour of Optimus and Megatron almost makes me wish this episode didn't exist.
And if there is a Worst of Beast Wars list next week, Go with the Flow, Cutting Edge, Call of the Wild, and Dark Voyage should definitely be on there.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789664)
Posted by RacerCheetor on May 14th, 2016 @ 4:50pm CDT
Posted by RacerCheetor on May 14th, 2016 @ 4:50pm CDT
Not because Transmutate chapter? 
It was one of the saddest.
It was one of the saddest.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789667)
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 4:56pm CDT
Dark Voyage was great. Always loved that one.
And Rhinox becoming a Predacon gave us great insight, and (unwittingly I'm sure) provided some nice foreshadowing to Beast Machines.
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 4:56pm CDT
Thanks! It was originally a top 5, but once I added a fifth honorable mention I thought it best to just extend the listZetatron wrote:Awesome list!! And Kudos, it's hard to narrow down a series like Beast Wars to the top ten, so many great episodes and moments.
Dark Voyage was great. Always loved that one.
And Rhinox becoming a Predacon gave us great insight, and (unwittingly I'm sure) provided some nice foreshadowing to Beast Machines.
I'm rather embarrassed to say, I've never heard of this episode! Can you link to me to some kind of source?Zetatron wrote:I also would have brought up Dark Glass as an Honorable Mention.
I hadn't noticed that myself but that's very astute. It really does break the flow.UltraPrimal wrote:As for Transmutate, I would argue that it's one of the worst episodes in the series. -snip- And this episode is after Code of Hero and before The Agenda, so it completely breaks the flow from episode to episode.
I agree with those, aside from Call of the Wild. Aside from why Dinobot is afflicted with that sleep glitch, I rather enjoyed it.UltraPrimal wrote:And if there is a Worst of Beast Wars list next week, Go with the Flow, Cutting Edge, Call of the Wild, and Dark Voyage should definitely be on there.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789672)
Posted by Zetatron on May 14th, 2016 @ 6:07pm CDT
There isn't a lot of info out there. The best I can do is point you towards the TFwiki entry:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Dark_Glass
The episode was apparently listed for Season 3 but dropped before production began. Fans got wind of it when a preview episode list was published for BotCon '98, but the script was rejected and replaced with "Go With the Flow". Larry DiTillo confirmed in an interview that a script had been written, submitted and rejected, but said it was for Season 2 and replaced by "Transmutate". Aside from that, there isn't much to say except it could have been a great episode.
Posted by Zetatron on May 14th, 2016 @ 6:07pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Zetatron wrote:I also would have brought up Dark Glass as an Honorable Mention.
I'm rather embarrassed to say, I've never heard of this episode! Can you link to me to some kind of source?
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There isn't a lot of info out there. The best I can do is point you towards the TFwiki entry:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Dark_Glass
The episode was apparently listed for Season 3 but dropped before production began. Fans got wind of it when a preview episode list was published for BotCon '98, but the script was rejected and replaced with "Go With the Flow". Larry DiTillo confirmed in an interview that a script had been written, submitted and rejected, but said it was for Season 2 and replaced by "Transmutate". Aside from that, there isn't much to say except it could have been a great episode.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789673)
Posted by RevTibe on May 14th, 2016 @ 6:12pm CDT
Posted by RevTibe on May 14th, 2016 @ 6:12pm CDT
Dark Glass was an unproduced episode that revolved around Rattrap trying to stick a backup copy of Dinobot's mind into his Transmetal 2 clone. It's often touted as providing an explanation for Dinobot II betraying Megatron in the finale, but I don't that was really needed. Clone of Dinobot is disconnected from Rampage, starts to show the noble side of the original Dinobot. Check.shajaki wrote:I'm rather embarrassed to say, I've never heard of this episode! Can you link to me to some kind of source?Zetatron wrote:I also would have brought up Dark Glass as an Honorable Mention.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789677)
Posted by Rainmaker on May 14th, 2016 @ 6:19pm CDT
Posted by Rainmaker on May 14th, 2016 @ 6:19pm CDT
Great picks, I really loved Code of Hero, Coming of the Fuzors and The Agenda!
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789694)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 14th, 2016 @ 7:20pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 14th, 2016 @ 7:20pm CDT
i liked the part when ravage transforms into cassette and inserts himself into the cassette player
and then you hear some heavymetal playing
and then you hear some heavymetal playing
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789695)
Posted by Insurgent on May 14th, 2016 @ 7:25pm CDT
Fair enough. To me, Tigatron and Airazor being away for extended periods tied into their characters nicely. Tigatron was a naturalist, someone who felt close to nature (probably helped by Snowstalker being his best friend initially) and was a bit like Tracks in that he much preferred his alt mode over robot mode. But in season 1, he did appear more often than not. Granted he wasn't in every epsiode, but probably at least 80% of them. And Airazor wasn't introduced till halfway through, so again, it probably feels she was in it less than she actually was.
To be honest, the only time they weren't there when it counted was Coming of the Fuzors, and that was because they left at the start of the episode to see what damage the Planetbuster had done and to try to find more stasis pods, since they had all just come crashing down.
Posted by Insurgent on May 14th, 2016 @ 7:25pm CDT
shajaki wrote:I will agree that that is a spectacular episode and in retrospect, could/should have made my list!Insurgent wrote:Megatron outmanouvering everyone and giving a delicious "Oh you Optmiuses do like to sacrifice yourselves."
Other Visits however, aren't my favorite. Certainly nothing wrong with these episodes, but there's enough knocks against it for me. Mainly, I don't care to much about Tigatron and Airazor. I really feel like they were made into second rate characters by them spending so much time off screen. Seriously, in "Coming of the Fuzors", where the hell were they? Would the Maximals even had needed a magically appearing TM Optimus to save them if those two had been there? Maybe I just didn't feel those two were important because they were never there when it really counted.
And the Vok themselves were great in concept. It's just a shame that the series was cut short and we didn't get to explore them as much as they were intended to be.
Fair enough. To me, Tigatron and Airazor being away for extended periods tied into their characters nicely. Tigatron was a naturalist, someone who felt close to nature (probably helped by Snowstalker being his best friend initially) and was a bit like Tracks in that he much preferred his alt mode over robot mode. But in season 1, he did appear more often than not. Granted he wasn't in every epsiode, but probably at least 80% of them. And Airazor wasn't introduced till halfway through, so again, it probably feels she was in it less than she actually was.
To be honest, the only time they weren't there when it counted was Coming of the Fuzors, and that was because they left at the start of the episode to see what damage the Planetbuster had done and to try to find more stasis pods, since they had all just come crashing down.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789711)
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:24pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:24pm CDT
@Zetatron & RevTibe
Thanks for the info! To think that we didn't get that episode, and other like "Go With the Flow" was is kind of upsetting...
Thanks for the info! To think that we didn't get that episode, and other like "Go With the Flow" was is kind of upsetting...
This is true.Insurgent wrote:Fair enough. To me, Tigatron and Airazor being away for extended periods tied into their characters nicely.
To me, it was strategically unsound. Search for stasis pods in the immediate area, sure. But don't go on a lovers retreat right after the you lose your leader and the game has completely changed. They shoulda stayed close and within radio contact range at least.Insurgent wrote:To be honest, the only time they weren't there when it counted was Coming of the Fuzors, and that was because they left at the start of the episode to see what damage the Planetbuster had done and to try to find more stasis pods, since they had all just come crashing down.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789712)
Posted by BERSEKAEL on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:25pm CDT
Posted by BERSEKAEL on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:25pm CDT
tranks to beastwars I lost interest in transformers for many years... 
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789714)
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:40pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:40pm CDT
I just want to say, before I read commenys, or the lis itself, the first thing I did was make sure "Code of Hero" was first.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789715)
Posted by RevTibe on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:46pm CDT
Posted by RevTibe on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:46pm CDT
:P Thanks to Beast Wars, the Transformers franchise didn't die.BERSEKAEL wrote:tranks to beastwars I lost interest in transformers for many years...
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789717)
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:48pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 8:48pm CDT
Considering my love for Dinobot, there's no way Code wouldn't be my number one. But I'd hate to think what the replies woulda been if I hadn'tIronhidensh wrote:I just want to say, before I read commenys, or the lis itself, the first thing I did was make sure "Code of Hero" was first.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789741)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2016 @ 9:36pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 14th, 2016 @ 9:36pm CDT
In all honesty, I wouldn't have been bothered if "Code of Hero" had been listed as #2 instead as #1, but in which case the #1 episode would have had to have some darn good justification for its trumping "Code of Hero" (and said justification could not be rooted in any kind of G1 fanservice).shajaki wrote:Considering my love for Dinobot, there's no way Code wouldn't be my number one. But I'd hate to think what the replies woulda been if I hadn'tIronhidensh wrote:I just want to say, before I read commenys, or the lis itself, the first thing I did was make sure "Code of Hero" was first.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789750)
Posted by william-james88 on May 14th, 2016 @ 10:11pm CDT
Well at least you are using tranqs on the poor beasts instead of killing em
As long as code of hero was number 1, I had no problems with anything else that might be there, of course except if there was mention of that episode where Cheetor and Blackarachnia were being helped by those young kids. Glad it wasnt there. And Glad Gorrila Warfare was there, I love that episode.
This list is awesome. I personally really like any episode where Depthcharge goes up against Rampage but I can understand if they arent always well written. And like people previously said, I am not a fan of the Transmutate episode. At all. It just feels so paint by numbers for a corny and sappy story that we have seen played out a ton of times in different franchises and stories. It doesnt pull on my heartstrings because its so easy to see the writers using all the cliches for trying to do just that. Also I dont believe there is any redemption to Rampage. He lost any humanity he might have had long ago and forcing that on him in this episode is just off. It ends up making him look less intimidating after, while the writers act as if nothing happened until the end when he chooses to give up.
Also, I hate the VOK. Always hated them as a kid and I still hate them now. They were made ultra mysterous with no payoff. And they made stone henge? How? For what? They are a deux ex machina which is never fun in this kind of fiction. The beast wars show was stronger than that (Nemesis and the Agenda are proof of this) so them appearing never really rings true to the idea that this show relies on its main cast to tell compelling war stories.
Posted by william-james88 on May 14th, 2016 @ 10:11pm CDT
BERSEKAEL wrote:tranks to beastwars
Well at least you are using tranqs on the poor beasts instead of killing em
As long as code of hero was number 1, I had no problems with anything else that might be there, of course except if there was mention of that episode where Cheetor and Blackarachnia were being helped by those young kids. Glad it wasnt there. And Glad Gorrila Warfare was there, I love that episode.
This list is awesome. I personally really like any episode where Depthcharge goes up against Rampage but I can understand if they arent always well written. And like people previously said, I am not a fan of the Transmutate episode. At all. It just feels so paint by numbers for a corny and sappy story that we have seen played out a ton of times in different franchises and stories. It doesnt pull on my heartstrings because its so easy to see the writers using all the cliches for trying to do just that. Also I dont believe there is any redemption to Rampage. He lost any humanity he might have had long ago and forcing that on him in this episode is just off. It ends up making him look less intimidating after, while the writers act as if nothing happened until the end when he chooses to give up.
Also, I hate the VOK. Always hated them as a kid and I still hate them now. They were made ultra mysterous with no payoff. And they made stone henge? How? For what? They are a deux ex machina which is never fun in this kind of fiction. The beast wars show was stronger than that (Nemesis and the Agenda are proof of this) so them appearing never really rings true to the idea that this show relies on its main cast to tell compelling war stories.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789762)
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 10:46pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 14th, 2016 @ 10:46pm CDT
Thanks Will. Coming from the List Master, it means a lot
But I don't hate them. I still really enjoy the mystery behind them. And more importantly I understand that the lack of resolution surrounding them is only because the show was cut a season short. From what I understand, they were to be fully explored but they were forced to wrap up the show and weren't given the chance. So it was set aside for more important stories like "Master Blaster".
After the Vok were fully revealed in the Tigerhawk episode I was just like "huh... alright". They had quite a central role in Seasons 1 & 2, but aside from creating Tigerhawk and sort of killing Tarantulas they ultimately had no presence in the entire last season.william-james88 wrote:Also, I hate the VOK. Always hated them as a kid and I still hate them now. They were made ultra mysterous with no payoff.
But I don't hate them. I still really enjoy the mystery behind them. And more importantly I understand that the lack of resolution surrounding them is only because the show was cut a season short. From what I understand, they were to be fully explored but they were forced to wrap up the show and weren't given the chance. So it was set aside for more important stories like "Master Blaster".
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789774)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 14th, 2016 @ 11:40pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 14th, 2016 @ 11:40pm CDT
That's a matter of opinion. I didn't even think of "Transmutate" until you mentioned it. It means nothing to me. The list, I more or less agree, even though I don't remember the episodes above #5. I would put "Code of Hero" at #3, "Nemesis" at #2 and "The Agenda" at #1, as I feel they were the most important episodes to the story as a whole, in that order. Also, I have to give a special shout-out to "Chain of Command" for 2 reasons: it was the 1st time Rhinox got to step up and be a leader, and of course, when he wielded the dual Gatling guns and annihilated Waspinator. Probably my favorite scene in season 1, if not the entire series. Also, I don't remember the title, but the episode where Rhinox and Primal are blind and have to make their way back to the Axalon was pretty cool as well. "The Low Road" I think it was called.Sabrblade wrote:I'm surprised to see "Transmutate" excluded from this list since that episode was almost as deep and meaningful as "Code of Hero" was.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789779)
Posted by Rainmaker on May 14th, 2016 @ 11:57pm CDT
Me too, I forgot Transmutate even existed until it was mentioned. I agree with Chain of Command too.
Posted by Rainmaker on May 14th, 2016 @ 11:57pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:That's a matter of opinion. I didn't even think of "Transmutate" until you mentioned it. It means nothing to me. The list, I more or less agree, even though I don't remember the episodes above #5. I would put "Code of Hero" at #3, "Nemesis" at #2 and "The Agenda" at #1, as I feel they were the most important episodes to the story as a whole, in that order. Also, I have to give a special shout-out to "Chain of Command" for 2 reasons: it was the 1st time Rhinox got to step up and be a leader, and of course, when he wielded the dual Gatling guns and annihilated Waspinator. Probably my favorite scene in season 1, if not the entire series. Also, I don't remember the title, but the episode where Rhinox and Primal are blind and have to make their way back to the Axalon was pretty cool as well. "The Low Road" I think it was called.Sabrblade wrote:I'm surprised to see "Transmutate" excluded from this list since that episode was almost as deep and meaningful as "Code of Hero" was.
Me too, I forgot Transmutate even existed until it was mentioned. I agree with Chain of Command too.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789789)
Posted by Henry921 on May 15th, 2016 @ 1:08am CDT
I'm a massive Dinobot fanboy, but I could see a case made for "The Agenda" being the best in the series. It's one of the best pieces of Transformers fiction period: great character interaction, good use of continuity both in-season (Blackarachnia and the data tracks, the transwarp wave front) and in the wider context of the series (past Earth, the Tripredacus Council and the Pax Cybertronia) and for bridging itself to the broader G1 continuity. And it's still a great 90 minutes of TV without knowing all the little references and details, with lots of twists and turns, quietly building tensions with the Maximals and their alliance with Ravage and Blackarachnia's detour and Silverbolt's going AWOL, and the absolute best (worst?) cliffhanger ever.
I'd still put it at #2, though.
Posted by Henry921 on May 15th, 2016 @ 1:08am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:In all honesty, I wouldn't have been bothered if "Code of Hero" had been listed as #2 instead as #1, but in which case the #1 episode would have had to have some darn good justification for its trumping "Code of Hero" (and said justification could not be rooted in any kind of G1 fanservice).shajaki wrote:Considering my love for Dinobot, there's no way Code wouldn't be my number one. But I'd hate to think what the replies woulda been if I hadn'tIronhidensh wrote:I just want to say, before I read commenys, or the lis itself, the first thing I did was make sure "Code of Hero" was first.
I'm a massive Dinobot fanboy, but I could see a case made for "The Agenda" being the best in the series. It's one of the best pieces of Transformers fiction period: great character interaction, good use of continuity both in-season (Blackarachnia and the data tracks, the transwarp wave front) and in the wider context of the series (past Earth, the Tripredacus Council and the Pax Cybertronia) and for bridging itself to the broader G1 continuity. And it's still a great 90 minutes of TV without knowing all the little references and details, with lots of twists and turns, quietly building tensions with the Maximals and their alliance with Ravage and Blackarachnia's detour and Silverbolt's going AWOL, and the absolute best (worst?) cliffhanger ever.
I'd still put it at #2, though.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789804)
Posted by Insurgent on May 15th, 2016 @ 3:43am CDT
True, but we've seen in the past the Maximals don't exactly make good command decisions when bossbot ain't there.
And to the comment about rampage character in transmutate being forgotten? This was the first episode to feature him properly after his introduction. It showed he's a tortured soul who can sense the pain and misery in others and uses that to feed his own soul. In transmutate he found another soul that was being misunderstood, someone with the same kind of tortured suffering in her soul but was too innocent to realise it. He never bonded with anyone else because he didn't mseet anyone else like that but the personality traits they instilled in him in that episode became his signature. And his voice acting was magnificent. To me, transmutate is a high ranked not because of the transmutate character, but because of the impact she had on silverbolt and rampage.
Posted by Insurgent on May 15th, 2016 @ 3:43am CDT
To me, it was strategically unsound. Search for stasis pods in the immediate area, sure. But don't go on a lovers retreat right after the you lose your leader and the game has completely changed. They shoulda stayed close and within radio contact range at least.[/quote]Insurgent wrote:To be honest, the only time they weren't there when it counted was Coming of the Fuzors, and that was because they left at the start of the episode to see what damage the Planetbuster had done and to try to find more stasis pods, since they had all just come crashing down.
True, but we've seen in the past the Maximals don't exactly make good command decisions when bossbot ain't there.
And to the comment about rampage character in transmutate being forgotten? This was the first episode to feature him properly after his introduction. It showed he's a tortured soul who can sense the pain and misery in others and uses that to feed his own soul. In transmutate he found another soul that was being misunderstood, someone with the same kind of tortured suffering in her soul but was too innocent to realise it. He never bonded with anyone else because he didn't mseet anyone else like that but the personality traits they instilled in him in that episode became his signature. And his voice acting was magnificent. To me, transmutate is a high ranked not because of the transmutate character, but because of the impact she had on silverbolt and rampage.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789886)
Posted by Shuttershock on May 15th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CDT
Posted by Shuttershock on May 15th, 2016 @ 12:45pm CDT
Good list. A lot of my favorites on here. Fallen Comrades was a surprise, but I like your arguments for it.
Personally I'd substitute it for Law of the Jungle, which dealt with collateral damage, pacifism and responsibility for those with strength to fight. Plus it was one of the few times I liked Tigatron and I liked how he and Inferno are foils of each other in that one.
My own thoughts aside, I enjoyed this list. Good job!
Personally I'd substitute it for Law of the Jungle, which dealt with collateral damage, pacifism and responsibility for those with strength to fight. Plus it was one of the few times I liked Tigatron and I liked how he and Inferno are foils of each other in that one.
My own thoughts aside, I enjoyed this list. Good job!
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789887)
Posted by kurthy on May 15th, 2016 @ 12:49pm CDT
This is what makes me love Beast Wars so much more (and Animated as well). They don't have a Prime with the Matrix of Leadership, most of them are making it up as they go along. They make mistakes, get called on them, and learn!
It also helps me like the Vok more because of they're lack of resolution. In life, we don't always get resolution. Maybe the Vok got taken out by some bigger enemy before they had a chance to land a bigger blow. It only would have been better if they had noted the lack of resolution near the end of the series. Like it's a good thing they didn't completely destroy the earth because they would have blown up the autobots, too. Yeah, I wonder why they haven't done anything lately. Rattrap shrugs. END SCENE.
Posted by kurthy on May 15th, 2016 @ 12:49pm CDT
Insurgent wrote:True, but we've seen in the past the Maximals don't exactly make good command decisions when bossbot ain't there.
This is what makes me love Beast Wars so much more (and Animated as well). They don't have a Prime with the Matrix of Leadership, most of them are making it up as they go along. They make mistakes, get called on them, and learn!
It also helps me like the Vok more because of they're lack of resolution. In life, we don't always get resolution. Maybe the Vok got taken out by some bigger enemy before they had a chance to land a bigger blow. It only would have been better if they had noted the lack of resolution near the end of the series. Like it's a good thing they didn't completely destroy the earth because they would have blown up the autobots, too. Yeah, I wonder why they haven't done anything lately. Rattrap shrugs. END SCENE.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789892)
Posted by Insurgent on May 15th, 2016 @ 12:58pm CDT
Posted by Insurgent on May 15th, 2016 @ 12:58pm CDT
You just made me realise, the Vok, who tried to stop the destruction of the timeline at the end, tried to crack open the earth, which would have triggered the very time storm they later try to avert. I guess they didn't realise what blowing up the Earth would have done until they saw first hand the Time Storm erupt at the end of Agenda.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789896)
Posted by kurthy on May 15th, 2016 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by kurthy on May 15th, 2016 @ 1:09pm CDT
Great list , Shaj!
I really wouldn't have cared if you had any episode listed in the top ten or if you had excluded Code. It's my favorite transformers series and I wouldn't personally be able to consistently rank the episodes in an order because most of the series does such a great job building characters. You did a great job explaining your thought process, so I like the list. WJ usually does a great job, too (I don't post that enough)!
I've already turned my son into a BW fan and he's only seen the first 10 or so episodes. And I just completed his season 1 Axalon crew the other day with a Classics Dinobot. I need to buy BW on dvd at some point along with Animated.
This list makes me salivate even more for MP Primal and Cheetor!
I really wouldn't have cared if you had any episode listed in the top ten or if you had excluded Code. It's my favorite transformers series and I wouldn't personally be able to consistently rank the episodes in an order because most of the series does such a great job building characters. You did a great job explaining your thought process, so I like the list. WJ usually does a great job, too (I don't post that enough)!
I've already turned my son into a BW fan and he's only seen the first 10 or so episodes. And I just completed his season 1 Axalon crew the other day with a Classics Dinobot. I need to buy BW on dvd at some point along with Animated.
This list makes me salivate even more for MP Primal and Cheetor!
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789898)
Posted by shajaki on May 15th, 2016 @ 1:16pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 15th, 2016 @ 1:16pm CDT
Thanks for the kind words everyone. And the insight everyone is providing is almost priceless
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789899)
Posted by Shuttershock on May 15th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CDT
I'd be inclined to agree about the Agenda. One thing that always stuck with me about it was the subdued scenes from part 2, with Primal calling Silverbolt's judgement into question and Megatron slowly turning Ravage to his side despite his confinement. They're very atypical scenes for BW an BW and some of my favorite interactions.
Plus for me, it doesn't get better than the season cliffhanger that threatens the very fabric of TIME AND SPACE!
Posted by Shuttershock on May 15th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CDT
Henry921 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In all honesty, I wouldn't have been bothered if "Code of Hero" had been listed as #2 instead as #1, but in which case the #1 episode would have had to have some darn good justification for its trumping "Code of Hero" (and said justification could not be rooted in any kind of G1 fanservice).shajaki wrote:Considering my love for Dinobot, there's no way Code wouldn't be my number one. But I'd hate to think what the replies woulda been if I hadn'tIronhidensh wrote:I just want to say, before I read commenys, or the lis itself, the first thing I did was make sure "Code of Hero" was first.
I'm a massive Dinobot fanboy, but I could see a case made for "The Agenda" being the best in the series. It's one of the best pieces of Transformers fiction period: great character interaction, good use of continuity both in-season (Blackarachnia and the data tracks, the transwarp wave front) and in the wider context of the series (past Earth, the Tripredacus Council and the Pax Cybertronia) and for bridging itself to the broader G1 continuity. And it's still a great 90 minutes of TV without knowing all the little references and details, with lots of twists and turns, quietly building tensions with the Maximals and their alliance with Ravage and Blackarachnia's detour and Silverbolt's going AWOL, and the absolute best (worst?) cliffhanger ever.
I'd still put it at #2, though.
I'd be inclined to agree about the Agenda. One thing that always stuck with me about it was the subdued scenes from part 2, with Primal calling Silverbolt's judgement into question and Megatron slowly turning Ravage to his side despite his confinement. They're very atypical scenes for BW an BW and some of my favorite interactions.
Plus for me, it doesn't get better than the season cliffhanger that threatens the very fabric of TIME AND SPACE!
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789926)
Posted by First-Aid on May 15th, 2016 @ 3:13pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on May 15th, 2016 @ 3:13pm CDT
"The Low Road" didn't make the list? Damnit! Who cares about deep, meaningful characters and plot development when you can have a planet-shaking, Predacon-smashing, giant ENERGON FART?!?!?!? 
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789941)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2016 @ 12:01am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2016 @ 12:01am CDT
After re-watching most of season 1 (just got one more episode to go), I would honestly not consider "Possession" to be anywhere near the top 10 best episodes, as it really did not contribute anything of real substance to the show and is only really remembered because of how much of a G1 fanservice episode it was, which is a far cry from what made Beast Wars so great. It as predominately just a filler episode that could be taken out with almost nothing of value lost.
Now, three episodes that stand out to me from season 1 that A) are not on this list and B) are ones that I didn't really think that much about as a kid but now do think very highly of are "Call of the Wild", "Dark Voyage", and "Law of the Jungle".
Now, three episodes that stand out to me from season 1 that A) are not on this list and B) are ones that I didn't really think that much about as a kid but now do think very highly of are "Call of the Wild", "Dark Voyage", and "Law of the Jungle".
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789961)
Posted by Insurgent on May 16th, 2016 @ 3:59am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on May 16th, 2016 @ 3:59am CDT
But Posession has Primal say "Hasta La Vista" while wearing Sunglasses all Arnie like!
To be honest, most of season 1 can be classed as 'filler' as although there were onging threads mainly focusing on the Vok, most of that series didn't have ongoing plot. What made it seem like it did was the characters remembered the events of the past episodes
To be honest, most of season 1 can be classed as 'filler' as although there were onging threads mainly focusing on the Vok, most of that series didn't have ongoing plot. What made it seem like it did was the characters remembered the events of the past episodes
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789966)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 16th, 2016 @ 5:20am CDT
In all seriousness, that was the funniest and one of the best humored episodes done! I loved it! Code of Hero was always meant to be the best followed by Nemesis and The Agenda, but "The Low Road" was always one of my favorites. The energon fart was just the hilarious icing on top of a large multi-layered cake
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 16th, 2016 @ 5:20am CDT
First-Aid wrote:"The Low Road" didn't make the list? Damnit! Who cares about deep, meaningful characters and plot development when you can have a planet-shaking, Predacon-smashing, giant ENERGON FART?!?!?!?
In all seriousness, that was the funniest and one of the best humored episodes done! I loved it! Code of Hero was always meant to be the best followed by Nemesis and The Agenda, but "The Low Road" was always one of my favorites. The energon fart was just the hilarious icing on top of a large multi-layered cake
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789971)
Posted by Insurgent on May 16th, 2016 @ 5:44am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on May 16th, 2016 @ 5:44am CDT
When I first watched Low Road, I didn't like it. But when I came back to rewatching it, I realised it's a loony toons episode (look at Airazor's pose draped over Primal's leg when they smash through the wall). And thus, I came to love it.
To be honest, there is only one episode of BW I don't love. Go with the flow. I call it the 'G1 Megatron' moment. And it all could have been avoided if Inferno had just waited to plug that power source in.
To be honest, there is only one episode of BW I don't love. Go with the flow. I call it the 'G1 Megatron' moment. And it all could have been avoided if Inferno had just waited to plug that power source in.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789981)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 16th, 2016 @ 7:17am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 16th, 2016 @ 7:17am CDT
"Dark Voyage" was the 1 I couldn't recall. It's where Primal and Rhinox are blind and have to get back to the Axalon. And whichever episode was Inferno's 1st appearance, just because he's my favorite Predacon.Sabrblade wrote:Now, three episodes that stand out to me from season 1 that A) are not on this list and B) are ones that I didn't really think that much about as a kid but now do think very highly of are "Call of the Wild", "Dark Voyage", and "Law of the Jungle".
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789990)
Posted by Insurgent on May 16th, 2016 @ 8:25am CDT
It's Rhinox, Cheetor, Rattrap and Dinobot who are blinded. But that is a good one. Shows Rhinox's level head and calm under pressure.
Inferno was introduced in Spider's Game.
Posted by Insurgent on May 16th, 2016 @ 8:25am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:"Dark Voyage" was the 1 I couldn't recall. It's where Primal and Rhinox are blind and have to get back to the Axalon. And whichever episode was Inferno's 1st appearance, just because he's my favorite Predacon.Sabrblade wrote:Now, three episodes that stand out to me from season 1 that A) are not on this list and B) are ones that I didn't really think that much about as a kid but now do think very highly of are "Call of the Wild", "Dark Voyage", and "Law of the Jungle".
It's Rhinox, Cheetor, Rattrap and Dinobot who are blinded. But that is a good one. Shows Rhinox's level head and calm under pressure.
Inferno was introduced in Spider's Game.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1789999)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2016 @ 9:06am CDT
There was a constant atmosphere of fear felt throughout that whole episode, especially in that swamp scene. One wouldn't imagine that something as low level a threat to these advanced alien robot lifeforms as a mere snake would be so deadly to them in their then-current condition, yet that episode presented that boa constrictor as a legit danger that nearly killed Cheetor.
Plus, this episode solidified that, when given the proper circumstances, Waspinator of all Preds could be a competent and dangerous threat to the Maximals, as evidenced by the mighty and powerful Dinobot submitting to his awaiting doom by Waspinator at the river. And though the Maximals were triumphant in their besting Waspinator and Terrorsaur, they nearly paid the price for their defending themselves with their lives. If not for the timely arrival of Optimus (which itself was first implied to be another enemy attack), the four blind Maximals would have surely perished.
Also, the music in this episode was phenomenal. The aforementioned swamp scene was made all the more frightening an experience to watch with Robert Buckley's already impressive score making use of some of its best works to capitalize on the overall horror feel of the scene, emphasizing the rising levels of dramatic tension built up by both the snake's approaching and coiling Cheetor and the utter terror felt by the usually fearless and prideful Dinobot and the usually too-stubborn-to-admit-humiliation Rattrap.
And in the end, the trials and tribulations the four underwent in that episode was learning experience for all of them. Rhinox came to further appreciate the other senses he and other often took for granted such as hearing, touching, smelling, as well as appreciating the greater functions and faculties of his beast mode, such as its reinforced mass and its great strength, which helped to protect him in the trek back to the base and stop the snake from killing Cheetor and Rattrap. Cheetor, Rattrap, and Dinobot likewise all learned much from this experience. They learned to appreciate their other senses, to respect Rhinox even more for his leadership and guidance on their little nightmarish adventure, and to count on each other even more than ever. They all seemed to grow a lot closer as a result.
I may have been entertained by this episode as a kid, but now as an adult, I really recognize how substantial it was to the growth and development of its characters, which is one of the many aspects that truly lies at the heart of the series.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2016 @ 9:06am CDT
Not only that, but it was a character building experience for the whole group. Dinobot, Cheetor, and Rattrap all took their sight for granted and were panicking the whole time, with Rhinox trying his darnedest to keep them all in line and under control in guiding them back to the base. Never had this group felt so vulnerable before, finding themselves utterly terrified by their blindness, not to mention the looming danger of their battle injuries threatening to infect their whole systems if they didn't make it back to the base in time.Insurgent wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:"Dark Voyage" was the 1 I couldn't recall. It's where Primal and Rhinox are blind and have to get back to the Axalon. And whichever episode was Inferno's 1st appearance, just because he's my favorite Predacon.Sabrblade wrote:Now, three episodes that stand out to me from season 1 that A) are not on this list and B) are ones that I didn't really think that much about as a kid but now do think very highly of are "Call of the Wild", "Dark Voyage", and "Law of the Jungle".
It's Rhinox, Cheetor, Rattrap and Dinobot who are blinded. But that is a good one. Shows Rhinox's level head and calm under pressure.
There was a constant atmosphere of fear felt throughout that whole episode, especially in that swamp scene. One wouldn't imagine that something as low level a threat to these advanced alien robot lifeforms as a mere snake would be so deadly to them in their then-current condition, yet that episode presented that boa constrictor as a legit danger that nearly killed Cheetor.
Plus, this episode solidified that, when given the proper circumstances, Waspinator of all Preds could be a competent and dangerous threat to the Maximals, as evidenced by the mighty and powerful Dinobot submitting to his awaiting doom by Waspinator at the river. And though the Maximals were triumphant in their besting Waspinator and Terrorsaur, they nearly paid the price for their defending themselves with their lives. If not for the timely arrival of Optimus (which itself was first implied to be another enemy attack), the four blind Maximals would have surely perished.
Also, the music in this episode was phenomenal. The aforementioned swamp scene was made all the more frightening an experience to watch with Robert Buckley's already impressive score making use of some of its best works to capitalize on the overall horror feel of the scene, emphasizing the rising levels of dramatic tension built up by both the snake's approaching and coiling Cheetor and the utter terror felt by the usually fearless and prideful Dinobot and the usually too-stubborn-to-admit-humiliation Rattrap.
And in the end, the trials and tribulations the four underwent in that episode was learning experience for all of them. Rhinox came to further appreciate the other senses he and other often took for granted such as hearing, touching, smelling, as well as appreciating the greater functions and faculties of his beast mode, such as its reinforced mass and its great strength, which helped to protect him in the trek back to the base and stop the snake from killing Cheetor and Rattrap. Cheetor, Rattrap, and Dinobot likewise all learned much from this experience. They learned to appreciate their other senses, to respect Rhinox even more for his leadership and guidance on their little nightmarish adventure, and to count on each other even more than ever. They all seemed to grow a lot closer as a result.
I may have been entertained by this episode as a kid, but now as an adult, I really recognize how substantial it was to the growth and development of its characters, which is one of the many aspects that truly lies at the heart of the series.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790009)
Posted by shajaki on May 16th, 2016 @ 9:54am CDT
And fan service? What's "The Agenda" and pretty much all of Season 3 then?
Posted by shajaki on May 16th, 2016 @ 9:54am CDT
I explain why I love this episode so much in the Top 10. But on top of that I'll say that there were far more irrelevant episodes than this one. I got my ex girlfriend to watch BW back in the day, and storywise in Season 1 I only had to show her about 10 episodes. I think it was an important nod to the history of the franchise.Sabrblade wrote:After re-watching most of season 1 (just got one more episode to go), I would honestly not consider "Possession" to be anywhere near the top 10 best episodes, as it really did not contribute anything of real substance to the show and is only really remembered because of how much of a G1 fanservice episode it was, which is a far cry from what made Beast Wars so great.
And fan service? What's "The Agenda" and pretty much all of Season 3 then?
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790012)
Posted by shajaki on May 16th, 2016 @ 10:00am CDT
Maybe if this had been done as Dragon Megatron (G1 Megatron stupidly influencing him with this plan) I could let it slide.
Posted by shajaki on May 16th, 2016 @ 10:00am CDT
There isn't an episode I loathe more than that one. I rewatched the whole series for this list (twice actually, to get screen shots) and that's still the only episode I skipped. As a kid (teen?) I remember being really pissed off at this episode. Every one in Season 3 was so story centric, I was filled with unbridled excitement when it was that night of the week. I likely had a sour/confused look on my face while watching this one, and when the end credits rolled I was like:Insurgent wrote:be honest, there is only one episode of BW I don't love. Go with the flow.
Maybe if this had been done as Dragon Megatron (G1 Megatron stupidly influencing him with this plan) I could let it slide.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790013)
Posted by Insurgent on May 16th, 2016 @ 10:05am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on May 16th, 2016 @ 10:05am CDT
It's also the only episode with stupid child human getting in the way. Ok, there was Cutting Edge, but in that, the humans were more 'thing to protect, not helping in any way'. And that had the benefit of setting things up in future episodes as well.
But what hurts the most with this episode is that we got that instead of Dark Glass.
But what hurts the most with this episode is that we got that instead of Dark Glass.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790027)
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2016 @ 11:15am CDT
I finally watched all of beast wars in my late teens/early 20s. I had watched a lot of season one in the 90s through vhs tapes.
When I watched all of Beast Wars (and Beast Machines) BW season 3 was what I liked the least in all of it. Every second episode is someone getting a new body and it just gets so redundant. Tigerhawk gets the biggest shaft ever. So I get that his form is the combination of both Tigertron and Airazor, but what about his personality? Rhinox, one of my favourite TF characters of all time, takes a major back seat during that whole season. Its like the writers forgot he was even there until the very final moment. And its very hard not to feel the huge void left in the wake of Dinobot's death. Also, I really dislike how they have to write ways around Optimal Optimus not just creaming everyone. So yeah, lots of redundancies and limitations in a very short season.
Posted by william-james88 on May 16th, 2016 @ 11:15am CDT
shajaki wrote: Every one in Season 3 was so story centric, I was filled with unbridled excitement when it was that night of the week.
I finally watched all of beast wars in my late teens/early 20s. I had watched a lot of season one in the 90s through vhs tapes.
When I watched all of Beast Wars (and Beast Machines) BW season 3 was what I liked the least in all of it. Every second episode is someone getting a new body and it just gets so redundant. Tigerhawk gets the biggest shaft ever. So I get that his form is the combination of both Tigertron and Airazor, but what about his personality? Rhinox, one of my favourite TF characters of all time, takes a major back seat during that whole season. Its like the writers forgot he was even there until the very final moment. And its very hard not to feel the huge void left in the wake of Dinobot's death. Also, I really dislike how they have to write ways around Optimal Optimus not just creaming everyone. So yeah, lots of redundancies and limitations in a very short season.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790176)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2016 @ 10:18pm CDT
It felt to me like the writers had the least creative freedom in that season and had to write in ways to introduce more new toys than ever before since, by comparison, season 2 felt like it was the most story-driven season that didn't really focus on "selling toys" as much, only introducing Rampage after the first three episodes already got the introductions of the Transmetals and Fuzors out of the way early on.
The rest of season 2 was predominately just story and character focus, so it felt like season 3 had to make up for season 2's lack of introducing new toys by having season 3 be far more toyetic with its introducing Optimal Optimus, Depth Charge, TM2 Dinobot, TM2 Cheetor, TM2 Blackarachnia, TM2 Megatron, and Tigerhawk all within a span of 11 episodes, and with any other plots the show had left to wrap up that weren't part of the "protect the Ark" plot had to be either abruptly dropped (the Vok plot, Cheetor's crush on Blackarachnia), rushed to some kind of hasty end (Depth Charge and Rampage's rivalry, the Predacon base protected by Sentinel, the fates of Tigatron and Airazor), or ignored and forgotten (the remaining stasis pods).
Posted by Sabrblade on May 16th, 2016 @ 10:18pm CDT
While I do like season 3 and felt that it was the most serialized season of Beast Wars, I'd have to somewhat agree.william-james88 wrote:When I watched all of Beast Wars (and Beast Machines) BW season 3 was what I liked the least in all of it. Every second episode is someone getting a new body and it just gets so redundant. Tigerhawk gets the biggest shaft ever. So I get that his form is the combination of both Tigertron and Airazor, but what about his personality? Rhinox, one of my favourite TF characters of all time, takes a major back seat during that whole season. Its like the writers forgot he was even there until the very final moment. And its very hard not to feel the huge void left in the wake of Dinobot's death. Also, I really dislike how they have to write ways around Optimal Optimus not just creaming everyone. So yeah, lots of redundancies and limitations in a very short season.
It felt to me like the writers had the least creative freedom in that season and had to write in ways to introduce more new toys than ever before since, by comparison, season 2 felt like it was the most story-driven season that didn't really focus on "selling toys" as much, only introducing Rampage after the first three episodes already got the introductions of the Transmetals and Fuzors out of the way early on.
The rest of season 2 was predominately just story and character focus, so it felt like season 3 had to make up for season 2's lack of introducing new toys by having season 3 be far more toyetic with its introducing Optimal Optimus, Depth Charge, TM2 Dinobot, TM2 Cheetor, TM2 Blackarachnia, TM2 Megatron, and Tigerhawk all within a span of 11 episodes, and with any other plots the show had left to wrap up that weren't part of the "protect the Ark" plot had to be either abruptly dropped (the Vok plot, Cheetor's crush on Blackarachnia), rushed to some kind of hasty end (Depth Charge and Rampage's rivalry, the Predacon base protected by Sentinel, the fates of Tigatron and Airazor), or ignored and forgotten (the remaining stasis pods).
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790194)
Posted by Heckfire on May 16th, 2016 @ 10:58pm CDT
Posted by Heckfire on May 16th, 2016 @ 10:58pm CDT
Am I really the only one who actually LIKED "The Low Road?" It sure as Hell ain't my favorite, but it was the second full episode of the series I ever saw so I have some sentimental attachment to the constant bickering between Rattrap and Dinobot, Rhinox's beer hat, and the horrible, horrible consequences of his wild bean vine consumption.
I just...appreciated that the producers actually seemed painfully aware of the kind of episode they were making and just went all-out and had a ball with it. The fact that the rest of the series was so solid and well-written, as evidenced by the list, is the only reason they were able to get away with it, though.
I just...appreciated that the producers actually seemed painfully aware of the kind of episode they were making and just went all-out and had a ball with it. The fact that the rest of the series was so solid and well-written, as evidenced by the list, is the only reason they were able to get away with it, though.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790245)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 17th, 2016 @ 8:07am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 17th, 2016 @ 8:07am CDT
Believe me, you aren't. that is one of my favorites! I like stupid humor
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790412)
Posted by superchook6909 on May 17th, 2016 @ 3:17pm CDT
Posted by superchook6909 on May 17th, 2016 @ 3:17pm CDT
Surprised the Low Road wasn't in the Honorable mention, The absolute Hilarious Rattrap and Dinobot arguments and quips are unforgettable.
Tarantulas: Die Minimals...
*Both Rattrap and Dinobot punch him out while shouting* "SHUT UP"
Tarantulas: Die Minimals...
*Both Rattrap and Dinobot punch him out while shouting* "SHUT UP"
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1790427)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2016 @ 4:11pm CDT
I mean, I enjoy it as a guilty pleasure episode, but I sure wouldn't show it to someone who'd never seen Beast Wars in an attempt to show how cool and well made Beast Wars was.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2016 @ 4:11pm CDT
It's a funny episode, yes, but it's more lowbrow funny than highbrow funny. Slapstick, butt shots, and fart humor without the necessary smarts to complement and counterbalance them isn't exactly the making of an exemplary work, and is among the very stuff that things like Family Guy and live action TF movies often get criticized for.superchook6909 wrote:Surprised the Low Road wasn't in the Honorable mention, The absolute Hilarious Rattrap and Dinobot arguments and quips are unforgettable.
Tarantulas: Die Minimals...
*Both Rattrap and Dinobot punch him out while shouting* "SHUT UP"
I mean, I enjoy it as a guilty pleasure episode, but I sure wouldn't show it to someone who'd never seen Beast Wars in an attempt to show how cool and well made Beast Wars was.
Re: Top 10 Best Beast Wars Episodes (1791362)
Posted by StarfireDelta on May 21st, 2016 @ 4:33am CDT
Posted by StarfireDelta on May 21st, 2016 @ 4:33am CDT
What? No love for 'The Low Road'?
Seriously though, I definitely agree with the number 1 spot, and the rest of the episodes are all very good. I'm not sure I'd have picked them all or put them in that order, but it's a good list and I kinda want to re-watch Beast Wars right now.
Seriously though, I definitely agree with the number 1 spot, and the rest of the episodes are all very good. I'm not sure I'd have picked them all or put them in that order, but it's a good list and I kinda want to re-watch Beast Wars right now.
