Titans Return Wave 4 Packaging and names revealed

Too bad we couldn't keep the name Gatoraider. I understand why, but it was still a fun name.

Broadside appears to be a heavy remold of alpha trion. Look at the feet.

Wait, so if I order a case of the Legends class, I'm going to get ANOTHER Bumblebee that I don't want?

Argh.

Splatterhouse wrote:Broadside appears to be a heavy remold of alpha trion. Look at the feet.

I believe that was confirmed a while ago.

Cobotron wrote:Maybe the sculpt will be re-purposed for a Titan Master release?

Arent we already hoping that happens with the takara heads?

Kurona wrote:

RAR wrote:Topspin looks like he'd be Tremendous fun.

Does anyone recall if Twin twist was rumoured at all too ?
It would be a terrible shame to break the pair up it's bad enough that they constantly fail to complete sets as it is.

Honestly, I'd say if we're getting a Topspin then Twin Twist is pretty much confirmed.

Its been 5 years and we still dont have a DOTM Twin Twist. jokes aside, this confirms nothing. Hasbro has often released only one of the casette bots without releasing the other. There is no Prime frenzy, no Platinum Rewind, no Alternators Frenzy and when they were gonna release that Frenzy/Rumble RTS mold it was only gonna be one of them (they ended up not even releasing it). All I am trying to say is keep your expectations low. I am sure Twin Twist will happen one day, but us getting Toppsin doesnt make it more or less likely than before, especially when they never shared a mold before.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I actually hope they don't push Twin Twist into the next phase (Power of the Primes?). So far, it has mainly been the Legends figures that have crossed over the toylines, with exception to the Jetfire/Seeker Leader Class mold. All the Deluxes and Voyagers have been unique models to the respective lines, mainly because of the gimmicks.

Only in retrospect, but that doesnt mean anything. Look at Alpha Trion. It was confirmed that he was supposed to come out before Titans Return and just go from Robot to Lion. But he was then put on hold (like Gnaw and Brawn) and eventually brought on later and because he was released now, they crammed a third mode into him, which was made from the engineering done for Braodside, which could explain why its so odd.

Also, you forgot PMOP which is also a remnant of a mold released in a previous line.

And of course, Chromedome was confirmed by Hasbro to be designed from the dead end mold. So thats legends, deluxes, voyagers and leaders, all showing remnants of previous lines.

GuyIncognito wrote:They should make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!

So youd like a cartoon which looks like your toys comes to life with choppy animation? Your wish is my command:

Albatross250 wrote:OVERLORD CONFIRMED?

Just in case you dont know, we already know overlord is coming, hes been confirmed and we can have a very good idea of how he will look due to Skyshadow wince they share the same mold.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Maybe after Topspin himself? It has happened.
Krok and Quake are as predicted... so where are the Titan Master names? O, don't expect TakaraTomy to release them.

Blitzwing will have a TM which looks just like himself, since he will share the same as the one Megatron has. And for the collectors out there, the toys that Japan dont get are always the more collectable Hasbro toys internationally. Rook and Offroad sold for quite a pretty penny there. To add to the rarity, these are shortpacked. I foresee these being the ones that go for more on the aftermarket in a year from now. While I wont be getting Breakaway, these two look like a lot of effort and planning went into them so I might get them.

So, if Hasbro continues the trend, and makes a Slag head (possibly out of Fangry), do you think that it might look good on Kup? (Slag is the only Dinobot that would make sense with smaller arms). I already have a Hardhead with Clobber and Highbrow with Ptero. I also think Chromedome could be Snarl and Broadside could be Sludge.

As a side note, the Ptero head looks quite nice on Triggerhappy, and we're now getting what is essentially a Decepticon Hardhead Transector. I guess Astrotrain could work as Sludge...

Or maybe Hasbro won't release any more Dinobot heads, or just straight-up release the Dinobots in this line or one to come (with the rumors of beast combiners).

Any thoughts, suggestions, or disagreements are welcome.

Splatterhouse wrote:Broadside appears to be a heavy remold of alpha trion. Look at the feet.

We know that already
If Broadside is already molded
What else he'll be redecoed into?

Pretty nice looking wave overall. Really looking to get Broadside, Kup, Perceptor, and Brawn.

Sky Shadow looks amazing as well. Hope I can find some these guys in-store in Feb.

Let's see now,

Gatorface was some kids' movie about a humanoid gator monster,

Chasm was a fan-character dragon cassette, possibly created by Raksha,

and Freezeout...hails from 10th Avenue.

Couldn't ask for more! Well, not from HasTak. But I'm REEEEAAALY hoping we get a 3rd party TipTop and Heater set. Quake was my first and only 'Con Targetmaster for well over a decade, so properly arming a proper update means a lot to me.

My dream has been to get an updated set of Monsterbots. I am brutally disappointed that Repugnus is a tiny little headmaster vehicle thing. Deeply saddened by this terrible turn of events.
Why wouldn't they make him a deluxe like Doublecross, can anyone explain this to me?

I was hoping to not have to go 3rd party for my updated Monsterbot team but Hasbro has forced my hand.

still waiting for a sideswipe

DestronMirage22 wrote:Too bad we couldn't keep the name Gatoraider. I understand why, but it was still a fun name.

Now all we need is blue or pink Gatorade and a square cup.

DestronMirage22 wrote:Too bad we couldn't keep the name Gatoraider. I understand why, but it was still a fun name.

I actually was about to type this. Gatoraider is like the best name evah.

The Club's update for Krok is better, if we are going for a ful homage to G1. But Hasbro is pretty witty. The robot mode is the Action Master but the beast mode is purely gatoraider. Look at how close they stick with the G1 crocodile, all the black and yellow is there:


Transformers G1 1990 Krok with Gatoraider Gallery

It's adorable and I love it to bits!

Edit: G1 Krok never had an alt mode, so giving him a crocodile mode instead of a spaceship/jet is not a bad idea. Especially since his name fits that better.

So, we've gotta get a Tidal Wave out of Broadside, right?

Brawn is so macho! I pray there's gonna be a Gong version. Also, if there is, so Brawn DID survive the massacre!

fenrir72 wrote:Brawn is so macho! I pray there's gonna be a Gong version. Also, if there is, so Brawn DID survive the massacre!

Or got resurrected.

Marcdachamp wrote:So, we've gotta get a Tidal Wave out of Broadside, right?

Still hoping for a Flattop too.

This confirms for me that I will get Krok. That paint job looks amazing on him and the head is perfect

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Maybe the sculpt will be re-purposed for a Titan Master release?

Arent we already hoping that happens with the takara heads?

Kurona wrote:

RAR wrote:Topspin looks like he'd be Tremendous fun.

Does anyone recall if Twin twist was rumoured at all too ?
It would be a terrible shame to break the pair up it's bad enough that they constantly fail to complete sets as it is.

Honestly, I'd say if we're getting a Topspin then Twin Twist is pretty much confirmed.

Its been 5 years and we still dont have a DOTM Twin Twist. jokes aside, this confirms nothing. Hasbro has often released only one of the casette bots without releasing the other. There is no Prime frenzy, no Platinum Rewind, no Alternators Frenzy and when they were gonna release that Frenzy/Rumble RTS mold it was only gonna be one of them (they ended up not even releasing it). All I am trying to say is keep your expectations low. I am sure Twin Twist will happen one day, but us getting Toppsin doesnt make it more or less likely than before, especially when they never shared a mold before.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I actually hope they don't push Twin Twist into the next phase (Power of the Primes?). So far, it has mainly been the Legends figures that have crossed over the toylines, with exception to the Jetfire/Seeker Leader Class mold. All the Deluxes and Voyagers have been unique models to the respective lines, mainly because of the gimmicks.

Only in retrospect, but that doesnt mean anything. Look at Alpha Trion. It was confirmed that he was supposed to come out before Titans Return and just go from Robot to Lion. But he was then put on hold (like Gnaw and Brawn) and eventually brought on later and because he was released now, they crammed a third mode into him, which was made from the engineering done for Braodside, which could explain why its so odd.

Also, you forgot PMOP which is also a remnant of a mold released in a previous line.

And of course, Chromedome was confirmed by Hasbro to be designed from the dead end mold. So thats legends, deluxes, voyagers and leaders, all showing remnants of previous lines.

GuyIncognito wrote:They should make a new G1 cartoon that looks exactly like the animated footage in that commercial!!!!

So youd like a cartoon which looks like your toys comes to life with choppy animation? Your wish is my command:

Albatross250 wrote:OVERLORD CONFIRMED?

Just in case you dont know, we already know overlord is coming, hes been confirmed and we can have a very good idea of how he will look due to Skyshadow wince they share the same mold.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Maybe after Topspin himself? It has happened.
Krok and Quake are as predicted... so where are the Titan Master names? O, don't expect TakaraTomy to release them.

Blitzwing will have a TM which looks just like himself, since he will share the same as the one Megatron has. And for the collectors out there, the toys that Japan dont get are always the more collectable Hasbro toys internationally. Rook and Offroad sold for quite a pretty penny there. To add to the rarity, these are shortpacked. I foresee these being the ones that go for more on the aftermarket in a year from now. While I wont be getting Breakaway, these two look like a lot of effort and planning went into them so I might get them.

i mean the Head of Quake looks like Overlord's... although it needs a gray silver paint on the face and some retooling done on the helmet and that's it

Marcdachamp wrote:So, we've gotta get a Tidal Wave out of Broadside, right?

It's unsure, but we're getting a Flattop redeco + a minijet of him

Albatross250 wrote:i mean the Head of Quake looks like Overlord's... although it needs a gray silver paint on the face and some retooling done on the helmet and that's it

Since Sky Shadow's Titan Master already looks like one of Overlord's Godmasters, and since Titans Return Leader class toys get helmets that cover the craniums of their Titan Masters anyway, Quake's Titan Master most likely won't be used for Overlord.

For Topspin, i'll get him, together with Sixshot and Astrotrain
Funny thing is, how did get a name of the titan master, Freezeout? i guess he's chilling all day
Looking forward for Misfire based on him as a Retool (And Slugslinger too, i can't forget that guy!)

Sabrblade wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:i mean the Head of Quake looks like Overlord's... although it needs a gray silver paint on the face and some retooling done on the helmet and that's it

Since Sky Shadow's Titan Master already looks like one of Overlord's Godmasters, and since Titans Return Leader class toys get helmets that cover the craniums of their Titan Masters anyway, Quake's Titan Master most likely won't be used for Overlord.

Oh right, my mistake, thanks

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Looking at that new noggin for Krok... yeah, this is one instance where I feel the Club did in better, to be frank.



Action Master Krok weren't no blockhead.

I think that toy is superior simply for the alt mode use. it gives h the right kibble in robot mode.

And can anyone confirm if those are the movie decepticon symbols we see on these guys?

The Decepticon Symbols/Insignias are different, yup, that's the Movie Decepticons Insignias, i wonder why it ain't a symbol of

I bet you could easily get a Misfire out of that Topspin mold and a Crosshairs out of that Kup.I can remember seeing a bajillion Topspin KO's as a kid.
"Heeey, waitasec, why is Topspin red and 3x larger...and only $1.00..."

Jackwipe wrote:I bet you could easily get a Misfire out of that Topspin mold and a Crosshairs out of that Kup.I can remember seeing a bajillion Topspin KO's as a kid.
"Heeey, waitasec, why is Topspin red and 3x larger...and only $1.00..."

Don't forget about Slugslinger too

"Gatorface"? Easily best name of the line Chasm... His colors are roughly the same as those of Heater, only switched around.


L: Tiptop, R: Heater
Transformers G1 1988 Heater Gallery

Jackwipe wrote:I bet you could easily get a Misfire out of that Topspin mold and a Crosshairs out of that Kup.

Both happen to be part of the rumored list of figures, I've noted them as such for now. Unfortunately, Slugslinger hasn't been alluded to yet, nor have Sureshot and Pointblank.

Jackwipe wrote:I can remember seeing a bajillion Topspin KO's as a kid.
"Heeey, waitasec, why is Topspin red and 3x larger...and only $1.00..."

The one I got for my birthday as a kid exploded the first time it tried to flip into bot mode. Great gift!

So I'm definitely getting all of this wave for sure. My only complaint (and I can't believe nobody has brought this up) is that Nightbeat is getting a THIRD release!

Wave 1
Wave 2 Revision 1
Wave 4

Why? Why so many, knowing that a lot of stores didn't get proper wave 2 and missed out on Clobber (so happy Skytread is getting another run) and that we're supposed to have a Deluxe Nightbeat in wave 5 or 6? It's not even that great of a Titan Master, possibly the worst of the line (though Takara Tomy did wonders with the repaint). That's just crazy, wave 4 should be Repugnus, Shuffler, Skytread, and Clobber. Seriously, Skytread and Clobber are leaving a gap in my TM collection and I'll probably never see Clobber in the wild.

(Cue someone complaining about how Clobber and Skytread are clogging shelves in their state/country.)

Emerje

Topspin is still my favorite jumpstarter, and he even still works! Twintwist never successfully did his thang, tho

That said, I still can't believe how amazing this Deluxe version of Topspin looks - but I also enjoyed how his bot mode looked back in 1985, and didn't have an issue with his alt mode. He was still cooler looking than the Throttlebots or an inside-bot of a Pretender!

I also agree Quake's body will make a great transtector for other Cons.

Of the latest wave of Titan Masters, Sawback is turning out to be my fave - I thought it was gonna be Fangry, but there's something special about Lione.....er, Sawback.

Sureshot would be nice to have as a new mould - he'd suit the theme and there are a few other buggies if they wanted to remould him but I like his look and colours. - I still fish out the original from time to time - he's a fun fiddle-former as he's so quick to Transform and roll around.

Also the colours would complement Sawback nicely too.

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I really do dislike incomplete sets - it's quite maddening.

Hasbro did say they intend to finish teams, though I don't think they were clear if they meant with Titans Return specifically or with all of Prime Wars. If they make a firetruck for Hosehead should it be Deluxe or Voyager?

Emerje

Brawn gets two toys in this range?

Sky Shadow is just taunting me with this Thunderwing-ness but I want a Voyager class Thunderwing dammit, not Leader, not the Deluxe... though a good quality scaled up KO of the deluxe would suffice for now if anyone knows of such an item...

I may get Kup even just to have him with Blurr and Hot Rod. Topspin is likely just cos he's turned out so well. Also I can take his head and place it under Megatron's foot in the Time Wars cover repro I wanna do with my Megatron and repainted Galvatron. Not sure what to use for Battletrap, that Gen Springer retool is likely too expensive and too big a scale for what I want.

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Much as I dislike the idea of Krok being a Skullsmasher redeco as it doesn't really fit... it's ironically a hidden blessing for me. I really wanted that mold, but due to funds I'm limiting myself to just MTMTE characters. And Krok happens to be one of my new favourites

I already have Skullcruncher, and as nice as that deco is on him...I think I'll try and track down the Club Krok for a not-horrible price. Which means I'll be waiting for decades, but oh well, Krok isn't exactly high-up my list of priority characters. I will say, for a redeco he does look cool, and I'm almost tempted to get him as a companion for 'Cruncher as "The Toothy Twins" or something, but between the fact that AFAIK the Bomber Megatron mold is awesome and my obsession with mold diversity...hmm. Maybe.

Quake I wish had some retooled parts beyond his face. A new cannon for him to differentiate him from Hardhead would have been awesome. The colours rock though, and the weapon is 5mm compatible so who knows, perhaps (though I doubt it).

Actually, I'll tell you a potential reuse for the Prime/Octane mold, perhaps for a theoretical new club/BotCon replacement: Clench!

So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

LE0KING wrote:So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

Topspin is a new mold.

Sabrblade wrote:

LE0KING wrote:So topspin is our Triggerhappy retool huh? That's unexpected, but it really works.

Topspin is a new mold.

Yep you're right. Was trying to see how the legs transformed and they reminded me of Triggerhappy's.

Jackwipe wrote:I bet you could easily get a Misfire out of that Topspin mold and a Crosshairs out of that Kup.I can remember seeing a bajillion Topspin KO's as a kid.
"Heeey, waitasec, why is Topspin red and 3x larger...and only $1.00..."

Triggerhappy is obviously Misfire. I think Slugslinger is a more likely retool out of Topspin, personally.

Black Hat wrote: AFAIK the Bomber Megatron mold is awesome

Its not that awesome. If you never held it in your hands before, then just know that retroactively its not as great as how it may have seemed when it first came out. Toys have gotten better since and the quality isnt great, especially since they use very thin plastic. Dont know if the plastic is better on Club Krok.

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote: AFAIK the Bomber Megatron mold is awesome

Its not that awesome. If you never held it in your hands before, then just know that retroactively its not as great as how it may have seemed when it first came out. Toys have gotten better since and the quality isnt great, especially since they use very thin plastic. Dont know if the plastic is better on Club Krok.

Ah, that's a pity. I thought engineering wise it looked pretty good, and aesthetically I personally love it, but IIRC it DID come from a relative "dark age" for Transformers.

Hmm, maybe I will get TR Krok after all...

Black Hat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote: AFAIK the Bomber Megatron mold is awesome

Its not that awesome. If you never held it in your hands before, then just know that retroactively its not as great as how it may have seemed when it first came out. Toys have gotten better since and the quality isnt great, especially since they use very thin plastic. Dont know if the plastic is better on Club Krok.

Ah, that's a pity. I thought engineering wise it looked pretty good, and aesthetically I personally love it, but IIRC it DID come from a relative "dark age" for Transformers.

Hmm, maybe I will get TR Krok after all...

I've had no QC issues with any of the three versions of the mold I own: Hasbro Megatron, Dreadwing, and TFSS Krok. If anything, I'd say that my Dreadwing and Krok versions feel tighter and more solid than my Megatron does.

If stealth bomba Megz had been voyager or leader class, it would have been a LOT more impressive. Not the most intuitive to transform either, but a decent figure nonetheless.

I know nothing of Krok, but I do dig DAT FACE

And hey, TR deluxes are known for easily being fan-mode-ed. I'm sure someone will come up with some sort of third spaceship transformation for Krok and maybe even come out with an extra cockpit piece on Shapeways or somewhere of the like.

bodrock wrote:If stealth bomba Megz had been voyager or leader class, it would have been a LOT more impressive. Not the most intuitive to transform either, but a decent figure nonetheless.

I know nothing of Krok, but I do dig DAT FACE

I actually didn't know that Krok is officially a Monoformer in IDW. I just thought the G1 toy never had an alt mode, but IDW Krok had a spaceship mode or something.

Black Hat wrote: the Bomber Megatron mold is awesome and my obsession with mold diversity...hmm. Maybe

Well i've got IDW Megatron & i think the figure is ok, & yet again Megs alt mode is a plane with this TR version

SillySpringer wrote:

bodrock wrote:If stealth bomba Megz had been voyager or leader class, it would have been a LOT more impressive. Not the most intuitive to transform either, but a decent figure nonetheless.

I know nothing of Krok, but I do dig DAT FACE

I actually didn't know that Krok is officially a Monoformer in IDW. I just thought the G1 toy never had an alt mode, but IDW Krok had a spaceship mode or something.

And therein does lie a bit of a problem - of the two modern Kroks we've gotten, one has the correct alt-mode kibble (the stealth bomber parts match the spaceship-looking parts on Krok's body), but the wrong body shape and type. The other one has the wrong alt-mode kibble, but the correct body shape and type.
Oh, Transformers

bodrock wrote:If stealth bomba Megz had been voyager or leader class, it would have been a LOT more impressive. Not the most intuitive to transform either, but a decent figure nonetheless.

I know nothing of Krok, but I do dig DAT FACE

Yep I bought takaras megs when they were selling them on ebay for like 6 bucks. Truh be told it's one of my favorite figures, but I agree it's too small. If I could find a krok, I'd buy it, but They aren't buyable anywhere.