Titans Return Fastlane and Pounce to be Released as Two-Pack EDIT with Correction

Well ain't that a spit in the face to people who shelled out money for those boxsets.

Whatever interest I had in the larger box sets has greatly diminished. Hopefully both sets will be available in August. Kinda wish they were exclusive to one store.

I'll just leave this post by Allspark user Nevermore here:

The only precedent for Hasbro using the same product code number for non-blindpacked products with different content were the three RID Mini-Con 4-packs.

Using the same product code number for different exclusive products that are exclusive to different stores is outright insane.

So yeah, I vote for "error on behalf of Robot Kingdom".

Sabrblade wrote:I'll just leave this post by Allspark user Nevermore here:

The only precedent for Hasbro using the same product code number for non-blindpacked products with different content were the three RID Mini-Con 4-packs.

Using the same product code number for different exclusive products that are exclusive to different stores is outright insane.

So yeah, I vote for "error on behalf of Robot Kingdom".

That's what my gut reaction was.

Mindmaster wrote:Courtesy of TFND.net user blacklai, we can confirm that the previously leaked Clone two-pack, consisting of Cloudraker and Wingspan, is indeed a retailer exclusive; like Brainstorm before them, they will be a Walgreens exclusive! blacklai also provides us our first in-hand look at the package, with the Autobot and Decepticon packaged in robot mode and a Walgreens sticker embossed on said package. The image can be viewed below for one's convenience.

The Walgreens Deluxes are about $3 more (Brainstorm is $18 vs. Target/Walmart Deluxe at $15). Does the $23 price of their twins over at Robot Kingdom sound about the right price for these at Walgreens?

Is this the only Titans Return packaging that doesn't have Fort Max's head looming over?

Thats cool. I wanted to make some custom pretenders from these molds.

Was this actually confirmed by Robot Kingdom, or is this fake news?

This whole Clone situation is very frustrating to me. I had given up on the box sets, and decided to wait it out and see if Takara did two-packs. Now Hasbro is doing one. I hope this amazon rumor is true. I don't want to just have one of each Clone team. the whole gimmick is lost with out both.

As for the difference in packaging, I would bet that it was all a last minute scramble. They decided to scrap the last two box sets, but decided to go with the two-packs. I'd bet that box is the same as the TLK Deluxe box. The already had the die cut to punch those boxes, and they did a last minute scramble to get TR art to fit the box.

Black Hat wrote:Well ain't that a spit in the face to people who shelled out money for those boxsets.

Who actually bought the box sets for just for the clones?

Terrsolpix wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Well ain't that a spit in the face to people who shelled out money for those boxsets.

Who actually bought the box sets for just for the clones?

My thoughts exactly. I thought people bought them for Nautica and Ginrai.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:

Black Hat wrote:Well ain't that a spit in the face to people who shelled out money for those boxsets.

Who actually bought the box sets for just for the clones?

My thoughts exactly. I thought people bought them for Nautica and Ginrai.

Huh. I got them for everyone, but especially laser prime (and ginrai since I can reason a Japanese version with annoying white parts) and metalhawk since my triggerhappy has a janky vehicle cannon.

*Looks Sheepish* I mostly bought the first giftset for the clone. But, then I am a weird completionist with Classics/Generations lines...

Also, everything looks like the RobotKingdom order is for the set that will be released as a Wallgreens set here in the states. The pics on RK show both stock photos of the first two twins, but also a convention photo of the second two with the two pack box. I wouldn't call this "fake news" just "confusion by photo placeholders".

Alrighty then time to start making some Walgreen's rounds!

Rysquad wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:So are they wave 5 or not?

Now that we see it's a Walgreens exclusive, does it still fall into a wave? When I picked up Walgreens-exclusive Brainstorm, other Wave 2 Deluxes were on the pegs at Walgreens.

Brainstorm is exceptional as he's officially part of the standard Deluxe Class assortment (Code B7762), and not a standalone item like exclusives usually are.

That said, quite a surprise to see all 4 Clones released in 2-packs, each exclusive to one store, one being Walgreens no less! What's Hasbro been taking?

With that, I think it's safe to withdraw the conclusion that the other two box sets have been canceled.

FYI, Robot Kindom has a pic of this walgreen two pack in their listing so it is still unconfirmed whether the two pack is of the earlier clones or the new ones.

Albatross250 wrote:Oh yeah, since here in SEA dosen't have Wallgreens,I'll have to wait for Toys R Us Exclusive

Why, you got Brinstorm as a TRU Exclusive in the SEA? He was the latest Wallgreens exclusive.

Rysquad wrote:

Terrsolpix wrote:So are they wave 5 or not?

Now that we see it's a Walgreens exclusive, does it still fall into a wave? When I picked up Walgreens-exclusive Brainstorm, other Wave 2 Deluxes were on the pegs at Walgreens.

Exclusives never fall into waves since they are shipped in different boxes. Waves are only for mainline releases.

I have a feeling there're gonna be a lot of clone singles up for sale by people that have one box set but not the other. Who needs two Pounces?

Geez, Walgreen's set should've been sold as individuals.

I remember both of the autobot clones from sooooo long ago. I want them now! Now if I can ever afford them.....

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:With that, I think it's safe to withdraw the conclusion that the other two box sets have been canceled.

That's probably the case.

What else was rumored for those sets?

Leader: Probably Godbomber for Magnus Prime?
Voyager: ? ?
Deluxe: ? ?
Legends: Cloudraker, Wingspan
Titan Master: ? ?

If the box sets are cancelled what does that mean for a domestic God Bomber release?

I think everyone is jumping the gun. I seriously doubt Fastlane and Pounce will be released in a two pack so close to the box set release. It's probably just robotkingdom getting the clones confused.


And if Cloudraker and Wingspan mean the box set are cancelled.... did they ever confirm those two would 100% be in the multi person box sets? Or did they just say 'boxsets'. Because this 2 pack is still a box set.

JelZe, I think you meant to say "Draw the conclusion", not "Withdraw the conclusion". Opposite meanings there.

They'll wait until everyone buys the two pack, then come out with the last two box sets that'll have Wingspan and Cloudraker in there too.

RiddlerJ wrote:They'll wait until everyone buys the two pack, then come out with the last two box sets that'll have Wingspan and Cloudraker in there too.

Honestly, I'm kind of hoping the Wingspan/Cloudraker 2-pack means we'll get different Legends in the boxsets -- maybe Rewind as Eject, Bumblebee as Cliffjumper; Brawn as Outback? Who knows. I just think this opens up possibilities for more repaints now

Courtesy of fellow staff member Mindmaster, we've got a bit of exciting Titans Return news for you today -- a video review of the Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxe Misfire! Youtube user xcorpeo shows off the figure's articulation, paint details and transformation alongside comparisons to fellow 1987 Targetmaster and mold mate Triggerhappy, as well as fellow IDW MTMTE Scavenger Krok. Check out the embedded video below and tell us what you think in the forums!

Albatross250 wrote::michaelbay:
All right, my wallet is about to be burned again. not that i'm complaining
Oh yeah, since here in SEA dosen't have Wallgreens,I'll have to wait for Toys R Us Exclusive

WalgreensStore #6259
9456 16TH AVE SW
Seattle, WA 98106
206–767–2294

Whew that white background and lighting. Looks like optibotimus is lending his set to other reviewers

chuckdawg1999 wrote:If the box sets are cancelled what does that mean for a domestic God Bomber release?

It was never a sure thing and it was just the fans expecting it. It wasn't never announced or rumored

steve2275 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote::michaelbay:
All right, my wallet is about to be burned again. not that i'm complaining
Oh yeah, since here in SEA dosen't have Wallgreens,I'll have to wait for Toys R Us Exclusive

WalgreensStore #6259
9456 16TH AVE SW
Seattle, WA 98106
206–767–2294

While that was very kind of you, SEA stands for South East Asia.

Insurgent wrote:I think everyone is jumping the gun. I seriously doubt Fastlane and Pounce will be released in a two pack so close to the box set release. It's probably just robotkingdom getting the clones confused.


And if Cloudraker and Wingspan mean the box set are cancelled.... did they ever confirm those two would 100% be in the multi person box sets? Or did they just say 'boxsets'. Because this 2 pack is still a box set.

Nothing was ever confirmed. We got two sets and everyone including me figured it'd be four due to the clones and due to how many sets we got from combiner wars. Everything about the sets have been speculation since toyfair.

Randomhero wrote:

Insurgent wrote:I think everyone is jumping the gun. I seriously doubt Fastlane and Pounce will be released in a two pack so close to the box set release. It's probably just robotkingdom getting the clones confused.


And if Cloudraker and Wingspan mean the box set are cancelled.... did they ever confirm those two would 100% be in the multi person box sets? Or did they just say 'boxsets'. Because this 2 pack is still a box set.

Nothing was ever confirmed. We got two sets and everyone including me figured it'd be four due to the clones and due to how many sets we got from combiner wars. Everything about the sets have been speculation since toyfair.

Expectations were high that we would get four box sets in total because of the "Stat Themes" associated with the first two sets as well. Chaos on Velocitron is themed on "Speed" while Siege on Cybertron is themed on "Strength." The other two major stats tracked in the Titans Return line are "Intelligence" and "Firepower." Having two more sets to cover those remaining stats makes a lot of sense. This is not to say that Hasbro will still follow through with this, but the expectation of four box sets was hanging on some rather convincing, though still circumstantial, evidence.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Insurgent wrote:I think everyone is jumping the gun. I seriously doubt Fastlane and Pounce will be released in a two pack so close to the box set release. It's probably just robotkingdom getting the clones confused.


And if Cloudraker and Wingspan mean the box set are cancelled.... did they ever confirm those two would 100% be in the multi person box sets? Or did they just say 'boxsets'. Because this 2 pack is still a box set.

Nothing was ever confirmed. We got two sets and everyone including me figured it'd be four due to the clones and due to how many sets we got from combiner wars. Everything about the sets have been speculation since toyfair.

Expectations were high that we would get four box sets in total because of the "Stat Themes" associated with the first too as well. Chaos on Velocitron is themed on "Speed" while Siege on Cybertron is themed on "Strength." The other two major stats tracked in the Titans Return line according to the trading cards that come with the figures are "Intelligence" and "Firepower." This is not to say that Hasbro will still follow through with this, but the expectation of four box sets was hanging on some rather convincing, though still circumstantial, evidence.

I 100% agree BUT we've seen plenty of stuff get scrapped over the passed 10 years. The last waves of Animated, Age of Extinction, TF 2010 line. It's one of those things we can't ever guarantee for certain. I've been saying it for months Power of the Primes is coming and Hasbro may just be saying "well we have these couple new molds we were gonna be putting in some sets. Let's just put them in some 2 packs and get them out and focus on Power of the Primes.

They are just box sets of retools and I buy them! I got Velocitron and I got cybertron on preorder but if they don't make 2 more and just release these guys has a two pack than I saved $200 and I got 17 Walgreens in my city so I'll be snagging them and completing my clones. I won't be heartbroken if they don't make "intelligence" and "fire power" sets. I don't care about the card theme at all.

Cobotron wrote:

steve2275 wrote:

Albatross250 wrote::michaelbay:
All right, my wallet is about to be burned again. not that i'm complaining
Oh yeah, since here in SEA dosen't have Wallgreens,I'll have to wait for Toys R Us Exclusive

WalgreensStore #6259
9456 16TH AVE SW
Seattle, WA 98106
206–767–2294

While that was very kind of you, SEA stands for South East Asia.

oh my bad

Kurona wrote:Courtesy of fellow staff member Mindmaster, we've got a bit of exciting Titans Return news for you today -- a video review of the Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxe Misfire! Youtube user xcorpeo shows off the figure's articulation, paint details and transformation alongside comparisons to fellow 1987 Targetmaster and mold mate Triggerhappy, as well as fellow IDW MTMTE Scavenger Krok. Check out the embedded video below and tell us what you think in the forums!
*snip*

Oh wow, thats a much more extensive retooling than I'd figured- the legs and lower arms seem similar (minus triggerhappy's mahoosive guns of course) but they've totally reworked that transformation! It's a shame to see the fancy legs-nosecone-spin-me-do trick go but I like what they've done with the cockpit/canopy seemingly collapsing into the torso block. Having previously written it off (simply prioritising the new-mold experience whilst on a budget), I may end up picking this one up in the end!
Curious now as to the third mold-mate and which transformation approach he takes, or if they squeeze a third out of it.
Also, props to the reviewer on doing such a solid job on what's apparently their first review, felt very polished and thorough.

william-james88 wrote:FYI, Robot Kindom has a pic of this walgreen two pack in their listing so it is still unconfirmed whether the two pack is of the earlier clones or the new ones.

Albatross250 wrote:Oh yeah, since here in SEA dosen't have Wallgreens,I'll have to wait for Toys R Us Exclusive

Why, you got Brinstorm as a TRU Exclusive in the SEA? He was the latest Wallgreens exclusive.

No not Brainstorm but the Clones are, like i said I'll wait for them, if they don't appear on SEA, i guess i'll have to wait for Overlord

ArmadaPrime wrote:

Kurona wrote:Courtesy of fellow staff member Mindmaster, we've got a bit of exciting Titans Return news for you today -- a video review of the Titans Return Wave 5 Deluxe Misfire! Youtube user xcorpeo shows off the figure's articulation, paint details and transformation alongside comparisons to fellow 1987 Targetmaster and mold mate Triggerhappy, as well as fellow IDW MTMTE Scavenger Krok. Check out the embedded video below and tell us what you think in the forums!
*snip*

Oh wow, thats a much more extensive retooling than I'd figured- the legs and lower arms seem similar (minus triggerhappy's mahoosive guns of course) but they've totally reworked that transformation! It's a shame to see the fancy legs-nosecone-spin-me-do trick go but I like what they've done with the cockpit/canopy seemingly collapsing into the torso block. Having previously written it off (simply prioritising the new-mold experience whilst on a budget), I may end up picking this one up in the end!
Curious now as to the third mold-mate and which transformation approach he takes, or if they squeeze a third out of it.
Also, props to the reviewer on doing such a solid job on what's apparently their first review, felt very polished and thorough.

A third mold-mate was confirmed at the same time as Misfire; Slugslinger - who seems as extensively retooled as Misfire.

TFSource has one of the sets up for pre-order, apparently it'll be a limited release

Dat TF is going to be X exclusive in a place where it's inaccessible to you in any ways so you dont have any choice but to rely on scalpers and get your wallet rek'd over some toy that is not THAT special.

Some years ago:
FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that I don't have much room left and I even start selling common Transformers to buy rare TFs or just to acquire room:
Meh, whatev.

Man, exclusives are way harder to find. looks like i'll have no hope to find them

Misfire is really pink. Would be nicer if there were some accents to break up the solid color.

WreckerJack wrote:Misfire is really pink. Would be nicer if there were some accents to break up the solid color.

yeah I'd have preferred the colours more like his Legends predecessor.

Sjeng wrote:

WreckerJack wrote:Misfire is really pink. Would be nicer if there were some accents to break up the solid color.

yeah I'd have preferred the colours more like his Legends predecessor.

I think the head being black makes all the difference. Would be nice if the guns were silver or black. Bright pink guns don't look very intimidating.

So...has there been any confirmation yet...Since the clones are being released as exclusive sets, does that mean the two remaining proposed Box Sets have been cancelled? I was thankfully not getting them for the clones, as odd as it sounds I was getting them for the leaders in spite of them being repaints/retools. I know everyone pretty much had different reasons for getting them. Now my only fear is that if the other two are not released, there may be no domestic release of God Bomber.

o.supreme wrote:So...has there been any confirmation yet...Since the clones are being released as exclusive sets, does that mean the two remaining proposed Box Sets have been cancelled? I was thankfully not getting them for the clones, as odd as it sounds I was getting them for the leaders in spite of them being repaints/retools. I know everyone pretty much had different reasons for getting them. Now my only fear is that if the other 2 are not released, there may be no domestic release of God Bomber.

It probably seems like a reason for the clones are being released is so they can be released somehow with their boxsets being cancelled - and that's a valid conclusion - but there's been nothing said on it yet and I feel they're still coming; for all we know this was likely their plan all along. To me this just means that the remaining boxsets will have Legends class repaints we've been wanting like Eject

That would actually be great. But it is odd that with Wave 5 starting to come out in some areas, we have heard nothing about Wave 6 beyond Deluxe Slugslinger.

o.supreme wrote:That would actually be great. But it is odd that with Wave 5 starting to come out in some areas, we have heard nothing about Wave 6 beyond Deluxe Slugslinger.

All will be revealed at SDCC and/or Hascon. Not long to go now~

Kurona wrote:

o.supreme wrote:So...has there been any confirmation yet...Since the clones are being released as exclusive sets, does that mean the two remaining proposed Box Sets have been cancelled? I was thankfully not getting them for the clones, as odd as it sounds I was getting them for the leaders in spite of them being repaints/retools. I know everyone pretty much had different reasons for getting them. Now my only fear is that if the other 2 are not released, there may be no domestic release of God Bomber.

It probably seems like a reason for the clones are being released is so they can be released somehow with their boxsets being cancelled - and that's a valid conclusion - but there's been nothing said on it yet and I feel they're still coming; for all we know this was likely their plan all along. To me this just means that the remaining boxsets will have Legends class repaints we've been wanting like Eject

I just got conformation from RobotKingdom that the two pack is indeed Cloudraker and Wingspan, the Wallgreens Exclusive.

I'm debating on cancelling the order, unless there is proof of the Amazon exclusive being released, or some two pack with the other two. No way am I paying $250+ for the box sets. F-YOU SCALPERS!!!!!

Is it me, Or Misfire's face looks like exactly from Highbrow?

Albatross250 wrote:Is it me, Or Misfire's face looks like exactly from Highbrow?

White unamused face and a visor within a box-looking head?

Albatross250 wrote:Is it me, Or Misfire's face looks like exactly from Highbrow?

It's similar, but not the same no.