The Studio Series Leader Class Fallen Toy will have a Removable Face

I have an inkling that this figure is an incomplete copy because of the (seeming) lack of staff The Fallen had in the film. Still, quite interesting to see that this'll be an upcoming release, I presume they'll base the alternate mode off of the old Voyager toy's spacejet mode.

SpaceEagle wrote:I have an inkling that this figure is an incomplete copy because of the (seeming) lack of staff The Fallen had in the film. Still, quite interesting to see that this'll be an upcoming release, I presume they'll base the alternate mode off of the old Voyager toy's spacejet mode.

The ball joints that aren't connected to anything is a big clue that this is an incomplete and/or disassembled figure. Really hard to form an opinion based on this picture.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:I have an inkling that this figure is an incomplete copy because of the (seeming) lack of staff The Fallen had in the film. Still, quite interesting to see that this'll be an upcoming release, I presume they'll base the alternate mode off of the old Voyager toy's spacejet mode.

The ball joints that aren't connected to anything is a big clue that this is an incomplete and/or disassembled figure. Really hard to form an opinion based on this picture.

Emerje

Yeah, I am keen to see more! The article mentioned it was incomplete (go figure) so I wonder how the full package will look.

Whatever head is on it now makes it look more like American horror story collab hahaha

Prime: - Give me your face!

Fallen: - Ok, here you are...

So The Fallen will be a leader.
Hard to tell if it will be a genuine sizeable leader or just a "voyager +".

-Kanrabat- wrote:So The Fallen will be a leader.
Hard to tell if it will be a genuine sizeable leader or just a "voyager +".

"Voyager +" tends to come with something else to make up the price (Siege Shockwave, Earthrise Astrotrain, SS Starscream), and I can't think of anything he could come with that would make up that much of a price difference. His staff isn't big enough, and he didn't have anything else in the film memorable enough to include. Plus, Fallen in the film is pretty large (taller than Megs, and I believe about the same height as OP AFTER he gets Jetfire glued to him), so I'll be surprised if he isn't an actual leader size (admittedly, not what it used to be).

I'm excited to see more of him!

-Kanrabat- wrote:So The Fallen will be a leader.
Hard to tell if it will be a genuine sizeable leader or just a "voyager +".

He was as big as Prime combined with Jetfire so he will be bigger than a Voyager.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:So The Fallen will be a leader.
Hard to tell if it will be a genuine sizeable leader or just a "voyager +".

He was as big as Prime combined with Jetfire so he will be bigger than a Voyager.

Let hope as massive as AoE Grimlock.

Unless he's more complex than the photos let on I think they could have gone "tall Voyager" with the Fallen since SS Jetfire Optimus Prime isn't that tall. Combining the two just gets Prime up to Megatron's size, he's only bigger if you really lean Megs forward like this.



Emerje

Imagine seeing your leader literally skin an enemy's face for no reason before killing them, and then thinking "wow what a hero".

PrimevsPrime has reviewed the Amazon exclusive Transformers Studio Series Transformers Movie 2007 15th Anniversary Multipack. The most important part of this review is comparisons to the previous releases to see if there are any changes to the deco. And it turns out each of them does have differences, some minor, some major; the bots on the left in the pics are from this new 5 pack and the bots on the right are the previous releases. Ratchet for instance has a big change in how fat the EKG line is on the alt mode and Jazz is a different shade of silver. The changes in deco make some characters more accurate and some less. For instance, both Bumblebee and Ironhide have paint apps removed compared to the previous releases but for Bumblebee, the lack of deco on his chest is inaccurate while the lack of paint on the circles emerging from Ironhide's armpits makes him more accurate (see videos below). In the end, this set is mainly for people who do not have the figures in it and completionists.

Not bad. Hopefully this set will make it easier to get Ironhide, he's the only one I still want.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. Hopefully this set will make it easier to get Ironhide, he's the only one I still want.

Will you buy this set just for Ironhide and sell the rest?

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william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. Hopefully this set will make it easier to get Ironhide, he's the only one I still want.

Will you buy this set just for Ironhide and sell the rest?

I would prefer not to, but it's not off the table. Depending on Ironhide's availability. I'm trying to anticipate how this set's release will change that.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. Hopefully this set will make it easier to get Ironhide, he's the only one I still want.

Will you buy this set just for Ironhide and sell the rest?

Oh and FYI to anyone who was wondering, official stance on PVP has been stated to staff. Anything you may think is off is for Hasbro to look into it, not us. You can report it to Hasbro and if they tell us to take something down, we will comply. Aside from that, anything news worthy will be posted and proper links and credits will be given. If anyone has issues, they can contact the site owner through the "contact us" link at the top of the site. Any talk concerning this on the boards will be seen as not relevant to the toys and subject at hand, and will be dealt with accordingly to site rules. If anyone wants to start a separate topic where they can talk about the ethics of toy reviews, they can.

Well that's just Prime, vs Prime!

Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. Hopefully this set will make it easier to get Ironhide, he's the only one I still want.

Same, and I like the colors on this one more than the first one. What I'm hoping is that this Ironhide gets a single release the same way we've seen the Target exclusive Buzzworthy ROTF Bee got a retail version later.

Definitely don't plan on buying this box set unless it goes on sale. All of the figures look better than the original releases, especially the tinted windows.

william-james88 wrote:If anyone wants to start a separate topic where they can talk about the ethics of toy reviews, they can.

I've lost track of how many times that's been said and nobody's done it yet. Makes me wonder just how committed people are to their cause.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. Hopefully this set will make it easier to get Ironhide, he's the only one I still want.

Same, and I like the colors on this one more than the first one. What I'm hoping is that this Ironhide gets a single release the same way we've seen the Target exclusive Buzzworthy ROTF Bee got a retail version later.

Definitely don't plan on buying this box set unless it goes on sale. All of the figures look better than the original releases, especially the tinted windows.

william-james88 wrote:If anyone wants to start a separate topic where they can talk about the ethics of toy reviews, they can.

I've lost track of how many times that's been said and nobody's done it yet. Makes me wonder just how committed people are to their cause.

Emerje

Why bother? The point is to get as many eyeballs on a post to bring attention to an issue. That's not going to happen on some thread in a sub forum of a sub forum.

Is Optimus really more accurate with the loss of the blue on his legs?

They missed out on a fantastic opportunity to give us the ULTIMATE set of movie figures. They should’ve given these a super premium paint job.

Sabrblade wrote:Is Optimus really more accurate with the loss of the blue on his legs?

I don't think so. The Premium version we got from Takara had the blue there

Emerje wrote:Unless he's more complex than the photos let on I think they could have gone "tall Voyager" with the Fallen since SS Jetfire Optimus Prime isn't that tall. Combining the two just gets Prime up to Megatron's size, he's only bigger if you really lean Megs forward like this.

Studio-Series-Jetpower-Optimus-Prime-05.jpg

Emerje

No such thing as a tall voyager in this day and age. If it's taller than a standard voyager, it becomes a leader. It's what happened to Leader DOTM Shockwave and DOTM Megatron, who both are tall voyagers.

And the Fallen will be just that. He is 2 heads taller than voyager prime, that's a leader in today's world.



And to anyone asking, yes that is a real promotional image for the ROTF ad campaign.

I've never seen that before. Now I will see it every time I eat M&Ms.

...

Fooking hell, I'm gonna have to stop eating M&Ms.

As for The Fallen, he might be tall enough to look Grimlock in the optics, but Grimmy is still bulkier.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Fooking hell, I'm gonna have to stop eating M&Ms.

Only the purple ones.

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:No such thing as a tall voyager in this day and age. If it's taller than a standard voyager, it becomes a leader. It's what happened to Leader DOTM Shockwave and DOTM Megatron, who both are tall voyagers.

There is also MASS and BULK to consider. DOTM Megatron is compressed like mad to be "voyager tall" but his mass is thickness make him far from "voyager". Especially in vehicle mode. ROTF Megs is as tall as Leader DOTM Megs, but his limbs are way thinner and he's a donut in bot mode. As for Shockwave, he's as tall and bulky as Leader AoE Grimlock.

So a "tall voyager" must be a lanky donut to be "tall". If Fallen is as bulky as Shockwave and Grimlock plus he comes with some goodies on top, that becomes leader.
Make me think that AoE Galvatron should have been a leader. A bit more engineering meat would have fixed that "tall voyager" mess that he is.

The Fanstream, still going on at the moment, has revealed wave 4 of the 2022 Studio Series line. The new bots never shown before include:

deluxe TLK Hot Rod
deluxe AOE Crosshairs
core Rumble (can fit inside Legacy/Siege/Netflix Soundwave)
core Wheelie
core Laserbeak
core Ratchet
voyager 86 Ironhide
leader The Fallen

The Fallen looks especially big, which is fun for the fans who miss big leader class bots. He comes with his staff which can be separated into 2 pieces, as well as a face removal gimmick. Also, some of his appendages can be easily removed. His alt mode is based on the previous toy.

Ironhide's alt mode is said to be the size of a voyager class toy and the use of voyager class budget helped make a transformation that didn't require partsforming, with many panels to go from a big alt mode to a smaller robot mode that would scale well with deluxe class characters.

There was also core class Laserbeak, Wheelie and ratchet which fans had already seen (and that some already own).

All of these toys are looking solid!

Day 959 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

I'll be getting Ironhide as soon as pre-orders go up, and I may even get Rumble too because he's turned out OK. I probably would have jumped on Hot Rod, Crosshairs and The Fallen if they came out a couple of years ago, but I've downsized my Bayverse collection and now there isn't really a place for any of them.

Rumble looks great and he fits inside of my Netflix soundwave. He finally gets some respect, Name wise aswell.

Down for all the Bayverse stuff in this wave!

Hot Rod and The Fallen look fantastic, very accurate and great sculpted detail. Hot Rod is such an improvement over the original, we’re finally rid of the AOE Lockdown engineering!

Fallen’s alt mode is alright, like Shockwave they prioritized robot mode and man, it looks great. Very excited to have him squaring off with Jetpower Prime!

I’m definitely getting crosshairs but I’m interested in seeing more of bot mode, I’m glad it’s a new mold (although the TLK one is good).

We’ve already seen Laserbeak but it looks great too!

Rumble! Can finally stop looking for that four pack with blue Frenzy in it. Now to wait on word of a Frenzy recolour...and then I guess look for anyone selling their Siege Ratbat on his own.

Would love to see comparisons of Siege and SS86 cassette minions

Hopefully they release blasters aswell. I need a steel jaw and a proper rewind an eject

That Rumble is insta-buy. I can't imagine the rest of them not getting made.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Down for all the Bayverse stuff in this wave!

Hot Rod and The Fallen look fantastic, very accurate and great sculpted detail. Hot Rod is such an improvement over the original, we’re finally rid of the AOE Lockdown engineering!

Fallen’s alt mode is alright, like Shockwave they prioritized robot mode and man, it looks great. Very excited to have him squaring off with Jetpower Prime!

I’m definitely getting crosshairs but I’m interested in seeing more of bot mode, I’m glad it’s a new mold (although the TLK one is good).

We’ve already seen Laserbeak but it looks great too!

I liked that AOE Lockdown engineering and Hot Rod rocked that mode. When all is said and done, that version might be the better looking alt mode out of the two, we'll see. Not complaining about him getting a proper mold though, this looks like a really nice figure. Like you, I am not sure about crosshairs. The one thing I really disliked in the original mold were those shoulders and that appears to be fixed. but the trench coat look might be better achieved on the TLK one.

Anyways, I read one of the funniest lines today on the TFW forum regarding SS86 Ironhide:

Engineering aside, I see nothing worth paying voyager price for.

yeah, no SH!T, you put aside the part that makes it worth a voyager price!

william-james88 wrote:yeah, no SH!T, you put aside the part that makes it worth a voyager price!

The things people say sometimes

Loving these reveals, I'll concur with the rest that Hasbro will tackle the cassettes in this style, but I do reckon they'll spread them out and do the cardinal sin of making some Exclusives.

I’m not a fan of the characterization of TLK Hot Rod (and shockingly, not a fan of the movie itself either), but that figure looks too damn good to pass up! It’s tight, the alt mode is sleek, the colors are on point. I can’t quite tell if it’s a retool of Lockdown though.

The Bayverse bots look very spiffy, I think I like how this Crosshairs looks over the previous toy but I am curious about seeing a comparison between the two - overall I like the paintjob on this one more, TLK's toy looked a bit sparse imo

Is it me or does Crosshairs look to be a retool of Hot Rod?

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I’m not a fan of the characterization of TLK Hot Rod (and shockingly, not a fan of the movie itself either), but that figure looks too damn good to pass up! It’s tight, the alt mode is sleek, the colors are on point. I can’t quite tell if it’s a retool of Lockdown though.

I don't think it's a retool. Also, about not being a fan, I don't know if anyone ever said they were a fan of TLK.

Yeah I'm not into the Bay movies that much nor the designs for the bots, but this version of Hot Rod looks pretty darn cool. I won't be getting him but nevertheless both forms do look pretty good.

The figure I'm most looking forward to is Rumble, this latest version really does look great! The one aspect that bothers me a tad is his scale, he doesn't look small enough to fit into Soundwave. lol
Being a core version it's certainly going to be larger than the previous Siege version as well as the latest Eject that accompanied Blaster. So it seems as if I'm going to have to replace all of them.

Next up Ironhide, IDK something still seems off about him even though he's supposedly more screen accurate. I will probably wind up getting him in the end though.

Ever since the Studio Series started The Fallen was the one I wanted the most. I was hoping they would give him a better alt mode than the previous toys. So in typical LAZY-ASS Hasbro fashion, they gave him basically the same stupid alt mode, only worse.



So that's another $55 I get to spend on Masters Of The Universe instead. Looks like Hasbro wants Mattel to get all my money these days. lol

Rumble and Ironhide are all that interest me from this wave.

william-james88 wrote:
I don't think it's a retool. Also, about not being a fan, I don't know if anyone ever said they were a fan of TLK.

Agreed that it doesn’t appear to be a retool. I actually had a blast watching TLK in theaters, and even though it’s a mess it does have some fun moments. I still prefer it to the Bumblebee movie.

As for the canon of the films though, I only count the first 3.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Ever since the Studio Series started The Fallen was the one I wanted the most. I was hoping they would give him a better alt mode than the previous toys. So in typical LAZY-ASS Hasbro fashion, they gave him basically the same stupid alt mode, only worse.

I mean, considering he doesn’t transform in the movies and the changes to alt mode result in a much better looking robot mode, I’d call it a win

Rumble is good (he is based on the cartoon your argument is invalid)

I'm impressed enough

Just wish they could pack rumble and frenzy together as a core class.

Till-all-R1 wrote:The figure I'm most looking forward to is Rumble, this latest version really does look great! The one aspect that bothers me a tad is his scale, he doesn't look small enough to fit into Soundwave. lol
Being a core version it's certainly going to be larger than the previous Siege version as well as the latest Eject that accompanied Blaster. So it seems as if I'm going to have to replace all of them.

Rumble is 100% Soundwave-compatible and only slightly bigger than the Siege mold according to the stream, he's like half the height of the other Cores.

Sam Smith has more Screen to Toy and 360 renders for today’s reveals! Just Hot Rod and Crosshairs so far, but we should be seeing The Fallen soon too!

https://www.instagram.com/king_samlock/




A couple interesting notes:

- Hot Rod’s spoiler is up in alt mode, which is accurate to the London chase scene

- Crosshairs is just a little taller than the SS-49 mold, and his backpack is detachable (though detachment is not required for transformation)

I don't think I'll ever buy that Fallen (unless some sale) but I'm glad the he got the REAL leader that he deserved at last.

Hot Rod is like robotic version of Omar Sy.

He is one of the best parts of The Last Knight.

I hope future versions of Crosshairs take some cues from his movie version.

Here are the official pics forStudio Series 2022 Wave 4. Cool to see pics of the actual toy rather than a render for Crosshairs. And we have our firs look at the packaging here too, which tells us that Ironhide will come with his death scene (such heroic nonsense). Here is a case breakdown as well:

This Transformers Studio Series Premier Leader Case contains 2 individually packaged figures:
1x The Fallen
1x Sludge

This Transformers Studio Series Premier Deluxe Case contains 8 individually packaged figures:
1x Bumblebee Movie Ratchet
3x The Last Knight Crosshairs
3x The Last Knight Hot Rod
1x 1986 Arcee

This Transformers Studio Series Premier Voyager Case contains 3 individually packaged figures:
2x 1986 Ironhide
1x Age of Extinction Galvatron