The G1 Optimus Prime Toy Updates will be around $75 and $120

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I might be over analyzing but does this imply future figures in this style? Like- Imagine a G1 Megs with this (in an alternate universe where we could get it in non neon colors), Starscream, the minibots. Need this happen

-Kanrabat- wrote:I may be wrong but appart from dealing with the improved articulations, There may be some improved transformation sequences. From the small and blurry pictures, I can see that this Optimus may be having hands that transform from his forearms instead of just partsforming like the original did.

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I may be wrong but appart from dealing with the improved articulations, There may be some improved transformation sequences. From the small and blurry pictures, I can see that this Optimus may be having hands that transform from his forearms instead of just partsforming like the original did.

No, you're correct. The hands open and flip into the wrists (or fold sideways and tuck into his belly) to reveal the headlights rather than popped off.

Emerje

Dr. Caelus wrote:Wake me when they get to Bludgeon.

SpaceEagle wrote:Seems about the price I expected, just wondering what the scale would be (I didn't see anything of the sort unless I probably looked past it!) but I'm guessing he's supposed to be a larger lad with that price.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Seems about the price I expected, just wondering what the scale would be (I didn't see anything of the sort unless I probably looked past it!) but I'm guessing he's supposed to be a larger lad with that price.

Nope.
It will be the exact same size and overall appearance as the original G1 Optimus Prime. No bigger, no smaller. Otherwise this release would have absolutely no point.

If you never had an original G1 Optimus before, the cab is as big as ER Optimus, the bot is around the same size as a big deluxe, and the trailer is double the size of the ER one.

The price is for the diecast, the engineering, the parts, and the fact that there will be less copies available than a regular release.

Sabrblade wrote:Wouldn't it be such a trollish move if it turned out that there was actually no diecast in this figure whatsoever, and it was all just plastic?

Sabrblade wrote:Wouldn't it be such a trollish move if it turned out that there was actually no diecast in this figure whatsoever, and it was all just plastic?

SpaceEagle wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Wouldn't it be such a trollish move if it turned out that there was actually no diecast in this figure whatsoever, and it was all just plastic?

That'd be quite devious indeed!
Personally I don't care for diecast but it would justify the price to have it here (and be more accurate to the source, of course.)

Sabrblade wrote:I'm pretty sure the trailer is completely unchanged mold-wise from the original, so the new cab figure would have to retain the scale of the original figure in order to work with it.

Though, personally, I wish they'd remold the trailer connector to be a more secure peg like how most trailers have attached to most Optimus truck toys since Powermaster Optimus. I was never a fan of the fat rounded peg that the trailers of Optimus and Ultra Magnus attached to so loosely.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I'm pretty sure the trailer is completely unchanged mold-wise from the original, so the new cab figure would have to retain the scale of the original figure in order to work with it.

Though, personally, I wish they'd remold the trailer connector to be a more secure peg like how most trailers have attached to most Optimus truck toys since Powermaster Optimus. I was never a fan of the fat rounded peg that the trailers of Optimus and Ultra Magnus attached to so loosely.

I think they should follow what real trucks have and it's a 10-step process to connect the trailer and cab. Oh, and it's all tiny parts that have to move in sequence.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I'm pretty sure the trailer is completely unchanged mold-wise from the original, so the new cab figure would have to retain the scale of the original figure in order to work with it.

Though, personally, I wish they'd remold the trailer connector to be a more secure peg like how most trailers have attached to most Optimus truck toys since Powermaster Optimus. I was never a fan of the fat rounded peg that the trailers of Optimus and Ultra Magnus attached to so loosely.

I think they should follow what real trucks have and it's a 10-step process to connect the trailer and cab. Oh, and it's all tiny parts that have to move in sequence.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Wouldn't it be such a trollish move if it turned out that there was actually no diecast in this figure whatsoever, and it was all just plastic?

That'd be quite devious indeed!
Personally I don't care for diecast but it would justify the price to have it here (and be more accurate to the source, of course.)

Based on the recent Walmart reissues in toon colors of G1 figures, it's impossible that this "Origins" G1 Optimus have no diecast.

Burn wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Wouldn't it be such a trollish move if it turned out that there was actually no diecast in this figure whatsoever, and it was all just plastic?

That'd be quite devious indeed!
Personally I don't care for diecast but it would justify the price to have it here (and be more accurate to the source, of course.)

Based on the recent Walmart reissues in toon colors of G1 figures, it's impossible that this "Origins" G1 Optimus have no diecast.

Not necessarily. It's entirely possible they've taken the CAD files of the original figure and updated the necessary joints, then created an all new mold which utilises nothing but plastic.

Possible ... though I would say unlikely. The parts that I believe would need to be replaced were plastic to begin with so they'll more than likely retain the die cast parts.

(Also dependant on the state of the molds too)

Sabrblade wrote:Wouldn't it be such a trollish move if it turned out that there was actually no diecast in this figure whatsoever, and it was all just plastic?

Lost dreams are linked across time!
The "Missing Link" series of virtual reprints that may have existed in that era is launched to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the birth of Transformers!
What if the original Convoy was fully posable? The size, texture, and nostalgia of those days have been kept intact in a completely new design!
While the size, transformation pattern, and basic construction using some die-cast alloys follow the original Convoy toys, the ideal Commander Convoy toy is now available with updated articulation for posing and gimmicks depicted in the animation.
Even the packaging and accessories are a thorough homage to the style of the time, bringing back the excitement of opening Transformers products in the 80's, even more so than the reissued versions.
The replacement of the fists during the transformation, which was a regret in the product at that time, was reviewed, and complete transformation that stores them inside without removing them is possible. In addition, each joint, which was limited in posing at the time, has been changed to movable, allowing the figure to be freely posed.
The Matrix can be stored in the chest as a reproduction from the animation scenes. The newly designed fists have movable fingers so that the Matrix can be removed and held in the hands. The anti-aircraft gun in the container can be separated from the container and rolled and driven, just like in the animation. The reconnaissance buggy "Roller" can be inverted at the rear to reveal the warning light depicted in the cartoon.
The laser rifle has been modified to insert the original grip portion into the fist. The "Energy Axe," a weapon memorable in the opening sequence of the animation, is also included and can be attached to the fist.
Also included is a red transparent "secret film" that brings back the play of decoding by overlaying it on the spec chart printed on the back of the package.
The well-known "secret emblem" is also affixed to the robot's body, and when warmed with a finger, the corps mark appears.
The main body of the robot has sculpted versions of the mechanical parts that were originally represented by stickers on a flat surface.
An additional joint hole on the back of Convoy is for a stand (sold separately) that allows Convoy to be displayed in an action pose.
Two new license plate user stickers that can reproduce the Japanese and international box art of the time have also been added, and a newly designed collection card is also included.

[Set contents] Robot body (1), container (1), energy axe (1), laser rifle (1), hose (1), energy supply pump (1), energy supply adapter (1), roller (1), roller tire (runner) (1), missile (runner) (1), matrix (1), seal (1), secret film (1), collection card (1), instruction manual (1), leaflet (1),

Lost dreams are linked across time!
The "Missing Link" series of virtual reprints that may have existed in that era is launched to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the birth of Transformers! What if the original Convoy was fully posable? The size, texture, and nostalgia of those days have been kept intact in a completely new design!
While the size, transformation pattern, and basic construction using some die-cast alloys follow the original Convoy toys, the ideal Commander Convoy toy is now available with updated articulation for posing and gimmicks depicted in the animation.
Even the packaging and accessories are a thorough homage to the style of the time, bringing back the excitement of opening Transformers products in the 80's, even more so than the reissued versions.
The C-02 Convoy, which is labeled "Anime Edition," has its contents dedicated to the robot part and is available in the coloring specifications depicted in the animation.
The replacement of the fists during the transformation, which was a regret in the product at that time, was reviewed, and complete transformation that stores them inside without removing them is possible. In addition, each joint, which was limited in posing at the time, has been changed to movable, allowing the figure to be freely posed.
The Matrix can be stored in the chest as a reproduction from the animation scenes. The newly designed fists have movable fingers so that the Matrix can be removed and held in the hands.
The laser rifle has been modified to insert the original grip portion into the fist.
The "Energy Axe," a weapon memorable in the opening visuals of the animation, is also included and can be attached to the fist.
Also included is a red transparent "secret film" that brings back the play of decoding by overlaying it on the spec chart printed on the back of the package.
The well-known "secret emblem" is also affixed to the robot's body, and when warmed with a finger, the corps mark appears.
The main body of the robot has sculpted versions of the mechanical parts that were originally represented by stickers on a flat surface. An additional joint hole on the back of Convoy is for a stand (sold separately) that allows Convoy to be displayed in an action pose.
C-02 adds a yellow user sticker to be attached to the bumper area that more closely resembles the visuals of the cartoon.
The Matrix, laser rifle, and Energy Axe are re-colored from C-01.
The design of the collection card is also changed.

[Set contents] Robot body (Anime Edition) (1), Energy Axe (1), Laser Rifle (1), Matrix (1), Secret Film (1), Collection Card (1), Sticker (1), Instruction Manual (1), Leaflet (1),

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Those molded details got me. I preordered the toy version.

Sabrblade wrote:I just remembered the biggest thing I hated about the original Optimus mold from the last time I held one in hand years ago: The giant gaping hole in the middle of his back (or rather, the figure's lack of a proper back at all). Looking at these pics and seeing that it also still has those ugly static flap sticking out from the back of the upper arms tells me that this figure still has the same big gaping hole behind it.

They could have further retooled the arms and the backside to both remove those unsightly arm flaps and create a proper back piece that could open and close to allow the head to still flip out from its original storage area inside the torso (think like the panel on the back of G1 Thunderclash or Machine Wars Optimus that does exactly that) while the arms would sit flush against it in truck mode.

Overcracker wrote:The hole is there because itt needs the space for the head to fold in. They could have probably added a couple of doors there though.

Sabrblade wrote:

Overcracker wrote:The hole is there because itt needs the space for the head to fold in. They could have probably added a couple of doors there though.

That's exactly what I said in the second paragraph.

Emerje wrote:At least he has the Matrix chamber now so you can't see directly through him. It's an improvement no matter how you look at it.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:At least he has the Matrix chamber now so you can't see directly through him. It's an improvement no matter how you look at it.

That's assuming the Matrix chamber has a new wall behind it instead of being left hollow (which we can't tell either way from these pics).

Emerje wrote:Still no word on if these have diecast or not. The descriptions don't mention it so probably not, but usually Japanese companies give material lists that would confirm it.

Emerje

While the size, transformation pattern, and basic construction using some die-cast alloys follow the original Convoy toys, the ideal Commander Convoy toy is now available with updated articulation for posing and gimmicks depicted in the animation.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:Still no word on if these have diecast or not. The descriptions don't mention it so probably not, but usually Japanese companies give material lists that would confirm it.

Emerje

While the size, transformation pattern, and basic construction using some die-cast alloys follow the original Convoy toys, the ideal Commander Convoy toy is now available with updated articulation for posing and gimmicks depicted in the animation.

DeathReviews wrote:I think a lot of collectors would be satisfied with G1 remakes that simply had separated legs and feet, never mind any extra articulation. But seeing a G1 Optimus that has full articulation, well that's noteworthy. It proves they COULD do it. I think I'll wait for the inevitable USA release, rather than paying through the nose for this one.

nycPrime wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I think a lot of collectors would be satisfied with G1 remakes that simply had separated legs and feet, never mind any extra articulation. But seeing a G1 Optimus that has full articulation, well that's noteworthy. It proves they COULD do it. I think I'll wait for the inevitable USA release, rather than paying through the nose for this one.

I think the recent G1 Optimus reissue retailed $50. I don't think a US issue will be cheaper, unless it goes on sale.

nycPrime wrote:The only difference between the 2 is the trailer and chest color?

nycPrime wrote:Is Amazon JP still the best cheapest option for importing to US?

The only difference between the 2 is the trailer and chest color?