TFYuki Tweets New Transformers Legends LG19 Springer Image
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Posted by Deadput on November 4th, 2015 @ 9:38pm CST
Posted by galvatron00 on November 4th, 2015 @ 9:57pm CST
Photo challenge victory: CaryTheOne!!Cobotron wrote:Bwah Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!carytheone wrote:So Springer has a new crew to wreck with?
Also, that seems super green. Maybe I'll hold onto my Generations Springer after all..
Posted by Randomhero on November 4th, 2015 @ 9:59pm CST
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:That looks severely unpainted or horribly painted you decide.
It's suppose to be as close to his cartoon colors as possible
Yup. Pretty ugly.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 4th, 2015 @ 10:30pm CST
And it really fails since it's the wrong shades of green.Randomhero wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:That looks severely unpainted or horribly painted you decide.
It's suppose to be as close to his cartoon colors as possible
Very ugly.Randomhero wrote:Yup. Pretty ugly.
Posted by Optimizzy on November 4th, 2015 @ 10:32pm CST
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on November 4th, 2015 @ 10:48pm CST
Randomhero wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:That looks severely unpainted or horribly painted you decide.
It's suppose to be as close to his cartoon colors as possible
Yup. Pretty ugly.
My thoughts exactly, which is why I'm happy with the Hasbro version.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 4th, 2015 @ 10:54pm CST
Optimizzy wrote:my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.
I think that by this point, everyone has a version of this mold
Posted by william-james88 on November 4th, 2015 @ 11:03pm CST
Optimizzy wrote:my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.
I was gonna mention that. In Japan, toys dont get restocked often and if you miss on an opportunity when its released, you might not see it again. So this totally helps Japanese fans who didnt get a chance to get this incredible mold yet, and they no longer need to spend the bigger bucks importing the american version (it is more expensive to ship from US to Japan than from Japan to US). Takara has been doing this quite a bit lately and I am quite thankful for it. I wish hasbro could just release Prime Breakdown in some different deco just to get the mold out in retail.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 4th, 2015 @ 11:15pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.
I was gonna mention that. In Japan, toys dont get restocked often and if you miss on an opportunity when its released, you might not see it again. So this totally helps Japanese fans who didnt get a chance to get this incredible mold yet, and they no longer need to spend the bigger bucks importing the american version (it is more expensive to ship from US to Japan than from Japan to US). Takara has been doing this quite a bit lately and I am quite thankful for it. I wish hasbro could just release Prime Breakdown in some different deco just to get the mold out in retail.
Man, all they had to do was take a vacation here when he was out. He was everywhere for a whole year, or more, I swear
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 5th, 2015 @ 12:04am CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 5th, 2015 @ 12:15am CST
Sabrblade wrote:And it really fails since it's the wrong shades of green.Randomhero wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:That looks severely unpainted or horribly painted you decide.
It's suppose to be as close to his cartoon colors as possibleVery ugly.Randomhero wrote:Yup. Pretty ugly.
I think the picture taken is to blame. Everything looks over-saturated in that take. The original solicitations showed much more mellow light and dark greens, and much paler olive-gray for the face, hands, and thighs. Takara usually does NOT get their colors wrong, so I'm not panicking just yet over one picture.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on November 5th, 2015 @ 3:27am CST
Posted by Randomhero on November 5th, 2015 @ 6:11am CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And it really fails since it's the wrong shades of green.Randomhero wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:That looks severely unpainted or horribly painted you decide.
It's suppose to be as close to his cartoon colors as possibleVery ugly.Randomhero wrote:Yup. Pretty ugly.
I think the picture taken is to blame. Everything looks over-saturated in that take. The original solicitations showed much more mellow light and dark greens, and much paler olive-gray for the face, hands, and thighs. Takara usually does NOT get their colors wrong, so I'm not panicking just yet over one picture.
Tell that to their animated and original United line where everything was off color, shiny and chrome
Posted by Evil Eye on November 5th, 2015 @ 6:21am CST
Behold. Mass production robot waifu.
Great, now I want to buy 3. And maybe customize a junker Figma or something into that "incomplete" version in the leotard.
Posted by Rated X on November 5th, 2015 @ 6:30am CST
Posted by Randomhero on November 5th, 2015 @ 6:40am CST
Rated X wrote:Screw all that hate, I like it. I never liked the yellow chest on the other versions. While it is a bit brighter than expected, its cool to finally get a real G1 deco.
Yeah to hell with the yellow chest! It should be G1 accurate!...
Oooohh...
Posted by fenrir72 on November 5th, 2015 @ 7:02am CST
Randomhero wrote:Rated X wrote:Screw all that hate, I like it. I never liked the yellow chest on the other versions. While it is a bit brighter than expected, its cool to finally get a real G1 deco.
Yeah to hell with the yellow chest! It should be G1 accurate!...
Oooohh...
Never really fails to amaze .....
Posted by Shockwave7 on November 5th, 2015 @ 8:59am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 5th, 2015 @ 10:10am CST
Posted by Rated X on November 5th, 2015 @ 10:41am CST
Randomhero wrote:Rated X wrote:Screw all that hate, I like it. I never liked the yellow chest on the other versions. While it is a bit brighter than expected, its cool to finally get a real G1 deco.
Yeah to hell with the yellow chest! It should be G1 accurate!...
Oooohh...
Please define the term "G1" in reference to color schemes...
Are we taking about G1 cartoons, G1 comics, or G1 toys ?
Its all G1 dude...
But in my opinion the "G1" cartoon colors flat out look better. And Takara seems to agree this time around....
Posted by Evil Eye on November 5th, 2015 @ 10:45am CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 5th, 2015 @ 11:05am CST
Delta Magnus wrote:Meh. I think I'll pick up the toy-accurate Hasbro release. This version is far too monochromatic with its mix of green and slightly paler green. Same as with Hasbro v Takara Dragstrip- the Takara version looks hideous decked out almost entirely in yellow, whilst the Hasbro version breaks up the yellow with the crimson and avoids him looking like a cheese golem.
NO! Not the cheese golems
Posted by Sabrblade on November 5th, 2015 @ 11:13am CST
But it's the wrong greens, though. G1 Cartoon Springer was light and dark shades of olive green, with an extremely pale gray-green color for his face, hands, and thighs.Rated X wrote:But in my opinion the "G1" cartoon colors flat out look better. And Takara seems to agree this time around....
This Legends toy is radioactive florescent seafoam green and deep jade forest green, with barely any distinction between the ugly bright green of his body and the ugly bright green of his face/hands/thighs that makes his face blend in with the rest of his head. This is a very hideous attempt at the cartoon colors, getting all the wrong shades in the process.
The more normal-looking green of the original Hasbro and Takara Generations versions of this toy were much closer to the shade of light olive green used in the cartoon that this toy's radioactive garish green.
It's like whoever colored this toy had greatly misremembered what kind of greens Springer had in the cartoon and ended up making it look less like Cartoon Springer and more like... this:
And even that's not right either.
Posted by Randomhero on November 5th, 2015 @ 11:19am CST
Posted by Deadput on November 5th, 2015 @ 12:02pm CST
Randomhero wrote:
Posted by albnok on November 5th, 2015 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by Deadput on November 5th, 2015 @ 12:09pm CST
Rated X wrote:Screw all that hate, I like it. I never liked the yellow chest on the other versions. While it is a bit brighter than expected, its cool to finally get a real G1 deco.
That would be fine if we did not already have the superior Hasbro product and paint.
And I can Garuntee it will look worse in hand.
It is certainly not worth the expense and import prices so excuse me but I got better things to do tonight like preorder Fallout 4 something actually worth more in value then a terribly painted Springer.
(reference to one of Springer's lines in the movie if you don't get it)
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2015 @ 12:31pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:But it's the wrong greens, though. G1 Cartoon Springer was light and dark shades of olive green, with an extremely pale gray-green color for his face, hands, and thighs.Rated X wrote:But in my opinion the "G1" cartoon colors flat out look better. And Takara seems to agree this time around....
Not only that, but these photos show that this mold is not even close to G1 Cartoon Springer. Even if it was the right colours, I dont see the interest in getting him in a perfectly G1 accurateclour scheme. It will never look right since thats not the G1 cartoon springer. It's IDW Sprigner, and if its not too expensive I would much rather have the color scheme that was made for the mold.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 5th, 2015 @ 1:10pm CST
*sighs* How quickly we forget. The top two pictures are both from the initial announcement and solicitations for Transformers Legends Springer. The bottom picture is the latest one released. Note the drastic inconsistencies in the colors portrayed among these photographs. Everyone needs to stop assuming Springer is going to turn out with awful neon colors and use a modicum of reason. This is not a new situation. We've seen this happen before, countless times. Seibertron himself will attest to the difficulty with getting some plastic and paint colors to photograph true to life. I'm assuming that the top picture above are the most indicative so far of what LG-19 Springer will look like. The quality of the second picture is lacking, and if the third picture is indeed a tweet or instagram photo from TFYuki, you can bet it was a rush job and not a professional photographing complete with post production editing to get the colors right.
Posted by megatronus on November 5th, 2015 @ 5:47pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Good Sense.
We're in agreement here. I think the in-hand product will be much more muted in color. I really like it.
Posted by fenrir72 on November 5th, 2015 @ 6:19pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on November 5th, 2015 @ 6:26pm CST
All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 5th, 2015 @ 6:41pm CST
Lobotron wrote:All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?
I think it does have to do with the release of MP-28 Hot Rod and the second production run of MP-22 Ultra Magnus. Both are currently slated for a February 2016 release. Guess who's coming in February 2016 as well? Yep, it's LG-19 Springer!
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2015 @ 6:56pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Lobotron wrote:All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?
I think it does have to do with the release of MP-28 Hot Rod and the second production run of MP-22 Ultra Magnus. Both are currently slated for a February 2016 release. Guess who's coming in February 2016 as well? Yep, it's LG-19 Springer!
Galvatronus coming out in february too?
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 5th, 2015 @ 8:35pm CST
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:That looks severely unpainted or horribly painted you decide.
maybe its the way the picture is with lighting and the way hes posed
Posted by fenrir72 on November 5th, 2015 @ 8:51pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Good point fen. When your looking at a computer monitor, you are looking directly at light. Not light reflecting off of a solid surface.
All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?
The JP version seems to have sold out like hotcakes. It also cause the prices of FP not Springer to dump. Maybe fan/customer request influenced TTs decsion to relase another color version of him?
Posted by albnok on November 5th, 2015 @ 9:38pm CST
Sonys for example brighten the greens and oranges to almost florescent, glowing color. Makes for nice landscapes but is inaccurate when photographing say a Fujifilm or Kodak film box.
Nikons boost as well, while Canon professional bodies are far more muted and color accurate (though not to everyone's taste.)
Posted by Cobotron on November 5th, 2015 @ 9:42pm CST
I love being right.william-james88 wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Lobotron wrote:All the dispute over the color aside (although it has been entertaining to read), I'm more interested in the logic behind why they are releasing this guy again so soon after his original release. I thought maybe it had something to do with the release of MP Rod, but that's months away.
Is it just because it's a great figure?
I think it does have to do with the release of MP-28 Hot Rod and the second production run of MP-22 Ultra Magnus. Both are currently slated for a February 2016 release. Guess who's coming in February 2016 as well? Yep, it's LG-19 Springer!
Galvatronus coming out in february too?
I keep forgetting next year is the anniversary of the movie. It all makes sense now.
Posted by Emerje on November 6th, 2015 @ 12:17am CST
william-james88 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.
I was gonna mention that. In Japan, toys dont get restocked often and if you miss on an opportunity when its released, you might not see it again. So this totally helps Japanese fans who didnt get a chance to get this incredible mold yet, and they no longer need to spend the bigger bucks importing the american version (it is more expensive to ship from US to Japan than from Japan to US). Takara has been doing this quite a bit lately and I am quite thankful for it. I wish hasbro could just release Prime Breakdown in some different deco just to get the mold out in retail.
Not going to say Springer was massively available in Japan the way he was in North America, but don't confuse Japanese online retailers with B&M retail locations. Just like how something long sold out at BBTS may still be collecting dust at Walmart, something that sold out fast at HLJ may still linger at Japan's TRU or a department store the same way thanks to their larger warehouses and distribution networks making restocking possible. Also while Takara Tomy's figures may be made in smaller numbers for Japan's retail they're better distributed between online retailers, department stores, toy stores, hobby shops, convenience stores (7-11 in Japan sells a small number of figures), and those Cybertron Satellite stores which include clothing and electronics chains.
Of course when it comes to Transformers these days it's hard for Takara Tomy to make anything somebody doesn't want so I don't doubt the new Springer figure will sell. And I agree that the actual figure will have more muted colors. There's something faulty in going by an amateur photo in direct light over light controlled professional photos.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on November 6th, 2015 @ 7:51am CST
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.
I was gonna mention that. In Japan, toys dont get restocked often and if you miss on an opportunity when its released, you might not see it again. So this totally helps Japanese fans who didnt get a chance to get this incredible mold yet, and they no longer need to spend the bigger bucks importing the american version (it is more expensive to ship from US to Japan than from Japan to US). Takara has been doing this quite a bit lately and I am quite thankful for it. I wish hasbro could just release Prime Breakdown in some different deco just to get the mold out in retail.
Not going to say Springer was massively available in Japan the way he was in North America, but don't confuse Japanese online retailers with B&M retail locations. Just like how something long sold out at BBTS may still be collecting dust at Walmart, something that sold out fast at HLJ may still linger at Japan's TRU or a department store the same way thanks to their larger warehouses and distribution networks making restocking possible. Also while Takara Tomy's figures may be made in smaller numbers for Japan's retail they're better distributed between online retailers, department stores, toy stores, hobby shops, convenience stores (7-11 in Japan sells a small number of figures), and those Cybertron Satellite stores which include clothing and electronics chains.
Of course when it comes to Transformers these days it's hard for Takara Tomy to make anything somebody doesn't want so I don't doubt the new Springer figure will sell. And I agree that the actual figure will have more muted colors. There's something faulty in going by an amateur photo in direct light over light controlled professional photos.
Emerje
I was using first hand experience reported here on the forums. We have some japanese corespondants and they have told us that with the UW releases, for example, TRU releases them once. They have to wait in line on release date to make sure they get one. So, yes B&M retailers do sell out just as quickly IF the item is popular.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 6th, 2015 @ 10:03am CST
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:my only comment is that at least if someone hadnt already got this version of Springer they have another opportunity. otherwise, im not too impressed.
I was gonna mention that. In Japan, toys dont get restocked often and if you miss on an opportunity when its released, you might not see it again. So this totally helps Japanese fans who didnt get a chance to get this incredible mold yet, and they no longer need to spend the bigger bucks importing the american version (it is more expensive to ship from US to Japan than from Japan to US). Takara has been doing this quite a bit lately and I am quite thankful for it. I wish hasbro could just release Prime Breakdown in some different deco just to get the mold out in retail.
Not going to say Springer was massively available in Japan the way he was in North America, but don't confuse Japanese online retailers with B&M retail locations. Just like how something long sold out at BBTS may still be collecting dust at Walmart, something that sold out fast at HLJ may still linger at Japan's TRU or a department store the same way thanks to their larger warehouses and distribution networks making restocking possible. Also while Takara Tomy's figures may be made in smaller numbers for Japan's retail they're better distributed between online retailers, department stores, toy stores, hobby shops, convenience stores (7-11 in Japan sells a small number of figures), and those Cybertron Satellite stores which include clothing and electronics chains.
Of course when it comes to Transformers these days it's hard for Takara Tomy to make anything somebody doesn't want so I don't doubt the new Springer figure will sell. And I agree that the actual figure will have more muted colors. There's something faulty in going by an amateur photo in direct light over light controlled professional photos.
Emerje
I was using first hand experience reported here on the forums. We have some japanese corespondants and they have told us that with the UW releases, for example, TRU releases them once. They have to wait in line on release date to make sure they get one. So, yes B&M retailers do sell out just as quickly IF the item is popular.
Which again points to the question: why doesn't TT increase the production run? They don't have to do huge levels of excess, but increasing it even slightly would only prove to be a huge win-win for everyone involved
Posted by william-james88 on November 6th, 2015 @ 10:13am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Which again points to the question: why doesn't TT increase the production run? They don't have to do huge levels of excess, but increasing it even slightly would only prove to be a huge win-win for everyone involved
But it would only be beneficial on more popular items. The TAV line isnt doing too well in Japan and there is still stock available on the japan sites. That is not as easy to anticipate and they would rather sell out than have excess.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 6th, 2015 @ 10:30am CST
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Which again points to the question: why doesn't TT increase the production run? They don't have to do huge levels of excess, but increasing it even slightly would only prove to be a huge win-win for everyone involved
But it would only be beneficial on more popular items. The TAV line isnt doing too well in Japan and there is still stock available on the japan sites. That is not as easy to anticipate and they would rather sell out than have excess.
Fair enough, so perhaps do additional runs in between figure production runs? Do a smaller second run of all the figures that sold out locally? I guess that still wouldn't work b/c they would need to reacquire the plastic and paint...
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 6th, 2015 @ 4:47pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Which again points to the question: why doesn't TT increase the production run? They don't have to do huge levels of excess, but increasing it even slightly would only prove to be a huge win-win for everyone involved
But it would only be beneficial on more popular items. The TAV line isnt doing too well in Japan and there is still stock available on the japan sites. That is not as easy to anticipate and they would rather sell out than have excess.
Actually it seems rather easy to anticipate. From what I've read the only toon based line that did well in Japan was Armada. So up the production on their Generation lines, and lower it for their cartoon lines.
Posted by Whisper on November 6th, 2015 @ 10:16pm CST
Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.
Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so
Posted by Sabrblade on November 6th, 2015 @ 11:08pm CST
Now that is much, MUCH, better than any official pic Takara has shown us of their figure. This is all the right greens in all the right places, with just the right amount of additional yellow slotted in to provide a perfect balance of color contrast. Takara should totally see this pic and change their deco to better reflect this one, as it is superior to the official deco in virtually every way.Whisper wrote:[delurk]
Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.
Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so
Bravo on this digibash.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 6th, 2015 @ 11:35pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 6th, 2015 @ 11:37pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Now that is much, MUCH, better than any official pic Takara has shown us of their figure. This is all the right greens in all the right places, with just the right amount of additional yellow slotted in to provide a perfect balance of color contrast. Takara should totally see this pic and change their deco to better reflect this one, as it is superior to the official deco in virtually every way.Whisper wrote:[delurk]
Figured I'd add my annual contribution to a thread, with my take on ol' Springys colour scheme.
Apologies for a few scruffy bits here and there, but it's 4.15am where I am, so
Bravo on this digibash.
Indeed, now THIS would have been a worthy re-release of the figure
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 7th, 2015 @ 2:13am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Been enjoyin' my Nightbird, but I gotta say, the lack of articulated wrists really hurts what could otherwise be an extremely poseable figure - as far as dynamic action poses go - with the sai's and such. While wrist swivels would've been to cumbersome to add, I think some cleverly engineered ball-jointed wrists would have made this figure perfect in my books, far surpassing anyone that I can think of.
Ball-jointed wrists? Who do you think we're dealing with, Bandai?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on November 7th, 2015 @ 2:18am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Been enjoyin' my Nightbird, but I gotta say, the lack of articulated wrists really hurts what could otherwise be an extremely poseable figure - as far as dynamic action poses go - with the sai's and such. While wrist swivels would've been to cumbersome to add, I think some cleverly engineered ball-jointed wrists would have made this figure perfect in my books, far surpassing anyone that I can think of.
Ball-jointed wrists? Who do you think we're dealing with, Bandai?
Been done before (prime wheeljack, gen chromia, etc.) would've made a nice cuff, and would've allowed for incredible articulation without giving her freakishly large wrists with a mushroom peg