TFSS 1.0 Breakdown Beginning To Ship

Wow... I'm really happy I'm not in TFSS....look at that thing.
These last few years' TFSS exclusives have been really bad, excluding the upcoming Chromedome which doesn't look bad at all, but I'm going to have to turn to the after market for him, because i'm not spending 300 dollars a year getting really bad shit like the breakdown, it's just bad. Look at the figure. Blah. I need to save my money for thrilling thirty

Hope to see pics of his bio soon.

Sabrblade wrote:Hope to see pics of his bio soon.

Same. Frankly, I'm a little surprised our tipper didn't provide a full image of it.

This is actually the figure I signed up for. I hated the block head even when it was on the G2 Breakdown. (Especially on the G2). But. I am happy to have a Neo-G1 Breakdown.

https://twitter.com/pile_of_butts/status/381454411228135425/photo/1/large
https://twitter.com/pile_of_butts/status/381457996384968706/photo/1/large

OH MY GLOB HE'S FROM THE BLACKTHORNE G1 3D COMICS UNIVERSE!!!!


ALL MY WAAAAAAAAANT!!!!

Sabrblade wrote:https://twitter.com/pile_of_butts/status/381454411228135425/photo/1/large

OH MY GLOB HE'S FROM THE BLACKTHORNE G1 3D COMICS UNIVERSE!!!!


ALL MY WAAAAAAAAANT!!!!

Great, now I gotta look that up and learn about something I didn't even know about.

Y u do dis, Sabrblade?

Mindmaster wrote:Great, now I gotta look that up and learn about something I didn't even know about.

Y u do dis, Sabrblade?

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_in_3-D
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Blackthorne_Publishing

Three 3D comic issues produced in 1987. They weren't anything great, except for the third issue, which was so awesome that the company couldn't handle such awesomeness before the comic's cancellation.

Issue 3 gave us the awesome that is known as the Destructons:



Led by the awesomely-named Lord Imperious Delirious:

"Imperious Delirious"

Hello, new username I can use on other places.

Mindmaster wrote:"Imperious Delirious"

Hello, new username I can use on other places.

That's LORD Imperious Delirious to you, fool!

Such insolence shall not go unpunished! DELIRIOUS FIRE!!!

That's the only American vintage G1 comic I haven't read. I just never came across it in my early '90s back-issue collecting, and passed it up for $30 at a con. And now the price will probably jump even higher. Slag.

Yet having read the first two, I have to ask, isn't calling those three issues one "continuity" by simple virtue of being from Blackthorne just a tad too generous? If issue 3 is seriously supposed to be set after The Rebirth, it can't have continuity with #1 where Max and Scorp exist as pre-Headmasters. Most baffling of all, issue 2 starts out by claiming it's one of the few Transformers stories set in the past (or something; I don't feel like searching my basement for it tonight), which would seem to imply "pre-Movie" to rationalize Ironhide still being alive, yet Galvatron's present. Ocatane, Razorclaw, Ratbat and Scorponok's presence in the "past" wouldn't be a problem in Marvel continuity (nor Galvatron's if he's time-hoppin), and Scorp's size would be consistent there as well; thing is, he was city-sized like his counterpart in issue 1. Ratbat also went from being "Galvatron's prized pet" in #1 to his his Marvel persona in #2: that is, IIRC, he seems to be leading the Decepticons, or at least part of the ruling troika with Galvy and Razorclaw. The fact that humans are already spread across space in that "past" issue hardly even seems odd, all things considered.

I mean, there's Sunbow continuity issues that most of us just forgive, and then there's Blackthorne, which has simply never been addressed because no one really cares. Was their internal communication so bad that all three writers thought they were going to be doing all three issues themselves? #1 was clearly the beginning of a more-ambitious-but-aborted tale as well.

Not that I'm complaining. Hell, if I was writing these bio's, I'd be sneakily trying to assert continuity with "Space Thunder Kids"...unless they'd give me the ultimate privilege of canonizing "Alignment"...

I guess what I'm saying is, if CHUGGUR-down honestly hails from this entire mess rather than just the Destructons story, we'd better get one guy in the next two subscription rounds who hails from Find-Your-Fate Junior "continuity"; I'm probably the only Transfan who actually has nostalgia-blinders for that series as a whole. Oh, and one from S.T.A.R.S. mail-order continuity, and that UK letter-page continuity where Blaster and other TFs became Action Masters would make sense for Treadshot...is that widely considered the same continuity as "Another Time, Another Place"?

Meh, I just refer to the Blackthorne stuff as one whole merely for simplicity's sake. I know it's not perfect and probably not one universe. But's so minor a comic series that it hardly matters much at all.

If anything, only Issue 3 has ever really mattered (and, thanks to this bio, does so now, once again) to any extent. We can at least say for certain that he hails from Issue 3's world.

I guess I'm just trying to come up with a better term than "continuity" for Blackthorne. I've been calling the FYF books "microcontinuity nexuses" on TFWIKI (no one's complained so far), and it seems like there must be some proper descriptive term out there to slap on Blackthorne's...deal. Reading #1 and #2 in early '92 did have a memorable effect on me: Like reading an account of a dream I'd had back in '87 just before or after an early morning of "The Killing Jar" and playing "Yars' Revenge", but suppressed all memory of. I mean, I'm not complaining because reminiscing about this is making different parts of my brain hurt than usual.

Now, I really want to know something from fans in the G.I.Joe FSS: have any of their bios referenced Blackthorne's 3D Joe comics? The first issue of that was really f@#%ed up! Raptor injects Cobra troops with some bird-serum that makes one group commit suicide by trying to fly over a cliff, then gives a platoon the super resilience to keep charging the Joes after being graphically dismembered by gunfire, including one guy who's somehow just a severed head attached to a single hopping leg! Seriously! Look at Blackthorne's covers on TFWIKI, and you'll notice a distinct lack of Comic-Code approval...

Car Crash has made this obsolete... but if he shows up on eBay for a decent price, I'll pick him up.

Can someone remind me what the cost per TFSS 1.0 figure was? Need to gauge whether the inevitable eBay prices are in any way worth it.

megatronus wrote:Can someone remind me what the cost per TFSS 1.0 figure was? Need to gauge whether the inevitable eBay prices are in any way worth it.

Full payment for all six together was $282 plus shipping.

Individual installment payments for two each was $94 plus shipping.

These are springing up on Ebay via our wonderful China based sellers, loose of course!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fitm%2FTransformers-2013-Collectors-Club-Subscription-BREAKDOWN-LOOSE-%2F121176594729%3Fpt%3DUK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN%26hash%3Ditem1c36b01929%26

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If you need one MISB then theres this US based Ebayer too...

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I guess the TFCC version features a different head to the CHMS KO version that came out a few years back?

Edit: Just found this too!


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Sabrblade wrote:https://twitter.com/pile_of_butts/status/381454411228135425/photo/1/large
https://twitter.com/pile_of_butts/status/381457996384968706/photo/1/large

OH MY GLOB HE'S FROM THE BLACKTHORNE G1 3D COMICS UNIVERSE!!!!
(Kremzeeks contained)

ALL MY WAAAAAAAAANT!!!! (Michael Bay extinguished)

Sabrblade my friend, you never cease to amaze me. It's one thing for the club to go for the really obscure when fiction's concerned, but for you to pick it out as if it was common knowledge, it's simply indefinable

I will take my chances and wait to see if the club store makes him available, for now it seems they are making every TFSS 1.0 figure available in the club store at some point.

I love the character but the block head looks out of place on that figure - especially without his Stunticon compatriots.

Nah, I say skip and go FP on this one. One Stunticon is not > than an entire Menasor (which should be complete by November).

To me, this release is a sad reminder of gestalts that will never come...

Sabr, excellent comic snippets! For my money, I'd be much more interested in seeing Destructons (even though this is the first I've heard of them) from FunPub. I mean, go obscure because you can, right? Well, I guess I'm more of a fan of obscure characters than re-release and re-hashes of old characters (unless we're talking new molds from Hasbro, that is).

Metrosuplex wrote:Sabr, excellent comic snippets! For my money, I'd be much more interested in seeing Destructons (even though this is the first I've heard of them) from FunPub. I mean, go obscure because you can, right? Well, I guess I'm more of a fan of obscure characters than re-release and re-hashes of old characters (unless we're talking new molds from Hasbro, that is).

I was trying to think of any molds in TF history that would make any sense for the Destructons as well. Maybe if Hasbro does, someday, get serious about toys of the Original 13, that would give FunPub something to work with. Granted, I still haven't read this issue either, just a weird hunch.

Sabrblade wrote:

megatronus wrote:Can someone remind me what the cost per TFSS 1.0 figure was? Need to gauge whether the inevitable eBay prices are in any way worth it.

Full payment for all six together was $282 plus shipping.

Individual installment payments for two each was $94 plus shipping.

Thanks, as always, Sabr!

So, roughly $47 a figure + shipping (I know; I'm evenly distributing and not weighting for Ultra Mammoth).

I'm now leaning towards picking up Breakdown. As much as FP Car Crash really, really does it for me, the fact is, he'll be in combined mode the vast majority of the time. Even when I had FP Bruticus, and even if I get FOC Bruticus, I'll still have Ultra Class Onslaught on display, so there's precedent for such "doubling" in my collection.

We'll see if he comes down a bit on eBay, or if the Club downs the price to a reasonable level.

megatronus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

megatronus wrote:Can someone remind me what the cost per TFSS 1.0 figure was? Need to gauge whether the inevitable eBay prices are in any way worth it.

Full payment for all six together was $282 plus shipping.

Individual installment payments for two each was $94 plus shipping.

Thanks, as always, Sabr!

So, roughly $47 a figure + shipping (I know; I'm evenly distributing and not weighting for Ultra Mammoth).

I'm now leaning towards picking up Breakdown. As much as FP Car Crash really, really does it for me, the fact is, he'll be in combined mode the vast majority of the time. Even when I had FP Bruticus, and even if I get FOC Bruticus, I'll still have Ultra Class Onslaught on display, so there's precedent for such "doubling" in my collection.

We'll see if he comes down a bit on eBay, or if the Club downs the price to a reasonable level.

I'm buying the FP stuff as well, but that's for display as Menasor. I have SE Drag Strip, some version of Wildrider, and maybe a Dead End somewhere, and this just gives me Breakdown. Of course, Motorbreath is with my stuff, but all Legends/Legion/Cyberverse/etc. are part of a different collection, as far as I'm concerned.

I received mine today, and while Breakdown looks good, a lot of joints are as loose as a retired porn star. Took some effort to get him to stand. But he does look great.

https://twitter.com/The_TF_Club/status/382160444082769921

Tech spec artwork for Breakdown.

Notice the four shadows of the Destructons:

• Top-right - Lord Imperious Delirous
• Bottom-right - Medusa
• Top-left - Bruton
• Bottom-left - Psychokhan

Just got mine in and I am pretty pleased with him.
The Blackthorne tie in makes this an interesting grab but in truth I am just counting down to Ultra Mammoth.

He's in the Club Store now - https://www.toyarama.com/store/2012-transformers-figure-subscription-service-figure-breakdown-version-1-month-4-1-pc-p586.php

Want the Transformers Subscription Service Breakdown figure without the hassle of buying the other six? Now you can! Seibertron user Sabrblade alerted us that Breakdown, like the previous exclusive figures before, is now available for purchase individually at the Collector's Club store! Visit and purchase your TFSS Breakdown here!

Undecided about getting Breakdown? Make your decision by stopping by the Seibertron galleries and make a decision there!

Sorry TFCC, FansProject beat you to it.

Plus this is a real smack in the mouth for the poor saps who laid out for the full subscription service to get this figure. I expect nothing better from TFCC, which is why they will never get my money again.

Banjo-Tron wrote:Plus this is a real smack in the mouth for the poor saps who laid out for the full subscription service to get this figure. I expect nothing better from TFCC, which is why they will never get my money again.

Not really, they said from the beginning that extras would be sold in the club store of all the figs.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Banjo-Tron wrote:Plus this is a real smack in the mouth for the poor saps who laid out for the full subscription service to get this figure. I expect nothing better from TFCC, which is why they will never get my money again.

Not really, they said from the beginning that extras would be sold in the club store of all the figs.

Plus, you could always sell the figures you don't want at a proportional rate.

Mindmaster wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Banjo-Tron wrote:Plus this is a real smack in the mouth for the poor saps who laid out for the full subscription service to get this figure. I expect nothing better from TFCC, which is why they will never get my money again.

Not really, they said from the beginning that extras would be sold in the club store of all the figs.

Plus, you could always sell the figures you don't want at a proportional rate.

In addition, going with the Subscription Service is the cheaper route to getting all six, rather than doing so from the Club Store.

And, going with the Subscription Service has a greater guarantee of you getting your figures than any other option.

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Banjo-Tron wrote:Plus this is a real smack in the mouth for the poor saps who laid out for the full subscription service to get this figure. I expect nothing better from TFCC, which is why they will never get my money again.

Not really, they said from the beginning that extras would be sold in the club store of all the figs.

Plus, you could always sell the figures you don't want at a proportional rate.

In addition, going with the Subscription Service is the cheaper route to getting all six, rather than doing so from the Club Store.

And, going with the Subscription Service has a greater guarantee of you getting your figures than any other option.

Well its the only guarantee, thats my point. TFCC know that they have a couple of stronger figures carrying some downright stinkers by virtue that people buy all 6 to ensure they get the good ones. It stinks as a business model and I'd be surprised if there was much of a secondary market outside of scourge/breakdown, so I don't accept people would recoup their money by reselling the ugly shoehorned crap these guys have been churning out recently.

MagnetarPrime wrote:I will take my chances and wait to see if the club store makes him available, for now it seems they are making every TFSS 1.0 figure available in the club store at some point.

hahaha nice, now I can get it and 20 bucks cheaper than bbts,,, nice move.

Banjo-Tron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

Banjo-Tron wrote:Plus this is a real smack in the mouth for the poor saps who laid out for the full subscription service to get this figure. I expect nothing better from TFCC, which is why they will never get my money again.

Not really, they said from the beginning that extras would be sold in the club store of all the figs.

Plus, you could always sell the figures you don't want at a proportional rate.

In addition, going with the Subscription Service is the cheaper route to getting all six, rather than doing so from the Club Store.

And, going with the Subscription Service has a greater guarantee of you getting your figures than any other option.

Well its the only guarantee, thats my point. TFCC know that they have a couple of stronger figures carrying some downright stinkers by virtue that people buy all 6 to ensure they get the good ones. It stinks as a business model and I'd be surprised if there was much of a secondary market outside of scourge/breakdown, so I don't accept people would recoup their money by reselling the ugly shoehorned crap these guys have been churning out recently.

Why bother making and selling figures that are crappy and will have difficulty selling in the first place? Why not make and sell figures that are all hits?

Sorry if this has been talked to death but do I need to buy a membership option if I want to be able to get this figure? I can't buy it just as if this was any other online store, can I?

synapse wrote:Sorry if this has been talked to death but do I need to buy a membership option if I want to be able to get this figure? I can't buy it just as if this was any other online store, can I?

Only Club members can buy from the Club Store, yes.