TFExpo 2013 Nebula Starship Exclusive Revealed

Do they need to get any sort of licensing or permission from Hasbro to make an upgrade set like this? Just curious.

GuyIncognito wrote:Do they need to get any sort of licensing or permission from Hasbro to make an upgrade set like this? Just curious.

I'm wondering that myself, because this seems very much like prominently displayed 3rd party news... >=\

Obvious Galaxy Shuttle homage is obvious.



An interesting character to homage.

Autobot032 wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:Do they need to get any sort of licensing or permission from Hasbro to make an upgrade set like this? Just curious.

I'm wondering that myself, because this seems very much like prominently displayed 3rd party news... >=\

No, there is no licensing involved for the event or the add-on set. We decided that we're okay with posting stuff like this. We also posted the Charticon Quake custom. We like to help out the local conventions, plus you must have an official figure to make this work and this is more along the lines of a garage kit. Let's not make this into a 3rd party debate, we're just trying to help these guys out.

I thought Hasbro didn't support these local conventions in general - isn't it a bit silly to ask if this kit is officially endorsed?

I'm not trying to insult anyone, but I would like to emphasize that Hasbro does NOT support these conventions. That's really a mystery to me: is it liability reasons? Do they fear the fans can't run a decent convention without some oversight? I don't get it.

I guess it's nice that they turn a legal blind eye to the whole affair, but...
This garage kit is what fans want, and Hasbro's response is to release TF Bionicles.

I'm surprised so many of you would be offended by unlicensed TF products (i.e. 3rd Parties), but my belief is that these 3rd Parties are going to forcibly educate our beloved Hasbro with crucial knowledge that could save the TF brand down the line: collectors matter, and they will pay a premium when you make a product they want. Certainly, I think Takara/Hasbro is aware of 3rd Parties enough to ramp up MP production - or are we getting the exact same amount of MP's per year?

Anyway, this kit looks kind of lame to me. I like the head, but the wings don't stand out well at all. $15 is a bit steep, too... but hypocrisy notwithstanding, I'll probably pick one up when I go. (Assuming they don't sell out like the Premium/Ultimate tickets did!)

If you don't like the kit don't buy it. If you want one come early and be near the front of the line. There are VERY FEW left and I believe they will go quickly.

Personally, I think it is a great homage to Galaxy Shuttle.

Also, on the topic of Hasbro's involvement, while it would be awesome to have them come and set up a display of all the upcoming stuff IE Botcon and ComiCon etc, I prefer them not being involved. For one thing, we are still a very small convention and it is only our 3rd year. Another thing is the third party stuff. Hasbro has made a clear stance against all 3rd party stuff despite the general consensus that it doesn't hurt Hasbro or Takara really. We all still buy their stuff too. The 3rd party stuff is generally (with some exceptions) figures that Hasbro wont make or figures that are upgraded/articulated/tv accurate versions of older G1 style characters. You don't go out there seeing 3rd party Transformers prime Smokecreens do you?
If anything, Hasbro should be thanking the 3rd parties for re-igniting the fire in collectors. The 3rd parties have pushed Hasbro/Tomy/takara to really improve their products over the last few years. More articulation, more show accurate designs, etc. AND they have took a bigger step in the collector markets as well. Especially with the Generations line. The whole focus has been with collectors and producing classic figures. They have done a fantastic job. This next year will be amazing with everything from Metroplex to Swerve and Whirl (who fans have been asking for for years) and even the beast wars is getting some love. Believe me, Hasbro would not be doing all of these characters if it wasn't for the interest in the classics generated by the fans and opened up by the 3rd party developers.

sideswipe6520 wrote:If you don't like the kit don't buy it. If you want one come early and be near the front of the line. There are VERY FEW left and I believe they will go quickly.

Personally, I think it is a great homage to Galaxy Shuttle.

Also, on the topic of Hasbro's involvement, while it would be awesome to have them come and set up a display of all the upcoming stuff IE Botcon and ComiCon etc, I prefer them not being involved. For one thing, we are still a very small convention and it is only our 3rd year. Another thing is the third party stuff. Hasbro has made a clear stance against all 3rd party stuff despite the general consensus that it doesn't hurt Hasbro or Takara really. We all still buy their stuff too. The 3rd party stuff is generally (with some exceptions) figures that Hasbro wont make or figures that are upgraded/articulated/tv accurate versions of older G1 style characters. You don't go out there seeing 3rd party Transformers prime Smokecreens do you?
If anything, Hasbro should be thanking the 3rd parties for re-igniting the fire in collectors. The 3rd parties have pushed Hasbro/Tomy/takara to really improve their products over the last few years. More articulation, more show accurate designs, etc. AND they have took a bigger step in the collector markets as well. Especially with the Generations line. The whole focus has been with collectors and producing classic figures. They have done a fantastic job. This next year will be amazing with everything from Metroplex to Swerve and Whirl (who fans have been asking for for years) and even the beast wars is getting some love. Believe me, Hasbro would not be doing all of these characters if it wasn't for the interest in the classics generated by the fans and opened up by the 3rd party developers.

The kit is very nice. I just think the wings are too subtle - I can barely see them on the shuttle! Still, I really like the add-on kit idea and thinks it's a great exclusive. If the budget wasn't so tight from MP Soundwave, Metroplex, upcoming G1-homages, etc. I'd be all over this. And anyway, I'm not even sure who Galaxy Shuttle is...

You make a good point about 3rd Party stuff at the show, thanks! Hadn't even considered how a showdown like that could take place, nor how it would play out. I guess it makes sense to keep Hasbro out, if they bring lawyers or have one on speed-dial...

But I agree 100% with your 3rd Party support. I also think it pushes Hasbro to pay MORE attention to its core market: US! I think Hasbro would be pushing Robot Heroes and Bot Shots if not for how 3rd Parties are starting to make money and more are cropping up every day. Like I said elsewhere, Hasbro is the company that claimed (during a con panel) that the adult collector market is ONLY 10-20%. That tells me either they're too incompetent to do market research on their own customers (unlikely), OR that they want to mislead and HIDE the adult market. Not sure why that would be a priority for Hasbro, but we have to remember that they are historically out to make toys for kids. Maybe someone was concerned about revealing all the adult buyers. Certainly, the SW toys are a lot more adult buyers than kids (if my observations at toy stores ring anywhere near the truth). And like you said, collectors end up buying both Hasbro and 3rd Parties. Actually, in the case of Omega Supreme, for example, I went with Hasbro because it cost me 1/3 of what Genesis would cost!

Thanks for the reply!

Metrosuplex wrote:And anyway, I'm not even sure who Galaxy Shuttle is...

Galaxy Shuttle (ギャラクシーシャトル Gyarakushī Shatoru) was pretty much the Autobots' space bus in the Victory line. You can read more on him here at TFWiki.

sideswipe6520 wrote:If you don't like the kit don't buy it. If you want one come early and be near the front of the line. There are VERY FEW left and I believe they will go quickly.

I think this will be nice to get if I could get one of these. Been way to broke to get any of the premium registrations.

The people behind TFExpo, taking place this weekend in Wichita, Kansas, have dropped by with the full schedule of the event! TFExpo this year features the special guests Gregg Berger (G1 Grimlock), Flint Dille (writer, G1 cartoon, Autocracy, Monstrosity) and Matt Frank (Spotlight: Trailcutter), so make sure not to miss it - check out the schedule below.

Can't wait for it! Wish they could not have the comic artist panel and voice actor auditions at same time. See you there.