TakaraTomy Transformers UW-08 Computron Comparison With Hasbro Combiner Wars Computron

steals_your_goats wrote:Any idea what that green thing behind Galvatron is?

Sabrblade wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Any idea what that green thing behind Galvatron is?

That's Universe 2009 Hardhead, a redeco of Universe 2008 Onslaught.

steals_your_goats wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:Any idea what that green thing behind Galvatron is?

That's Universe 2009 Hardhead, a redeco of Universe 2008 Onslaught.

I knew it looked familiar. Wonder why it was there

fenrir72 wrote:Is something wrong with my eyes? The Hb head looks different. And the Hb hands and feet on the UW is BOSS!

Sabrblade wrote:CW Computron also looks to be wearing a 3rd party head.

lonrac wrote:....hopefully there will still be enough interest in the hasbro one, that the will continue with the sixth figure in the set,

( actually what I reeaaaallyy want now is a remade 'gobots' set using the modern molds)

lonrac wrote:( actually what I reeaaaallyy want now is a remade 'gobots' set using the modern molds)

Emerje wrote:

lonrac wrote:( actually what I reeaaaallyy want now is a remade 'gobots' set using the modern molds)

As combiners? I'd buy that. The combined heads can be based on the Courageous and Grungy Power Suit heads.

Here's what I'm thinking (and I don't care if it's already been sort of done)

Guardians: Leader-1 (Skydive), Turbo (Wheeljack), Rest-Q (First Aid), Spay-C (UW Blast Off), Roadranger (Onslaught), Scooter (CW Groove)

Renegades: Cy-kill (UW Groove), Crasher (Dust Up), Cop-Tur (Alpha Bravo), Fitor (CW Strafe), Snoop (Silverbolt), Bad Boy (Powerglide)

Emerje

Kurona wrote:

Emerje wrote:

lonrac wrote:( actually what I reeaaaallyy want now is a remade 'gobots' set using the modern molds)

As combiners? I'd buy that. The combined heads can be based on the Courageous and Grungy Power Suit heads.

Here's what I'm thinking (and I don't care if it's already been sort of done)

Guardians: Leader-1 (Skydive), Turbo (Wheeljack), Rest-Q (First Aid), Spay-C (UW Blast Off), Roadranger (Onslaught), Scooter (CW Groove)

Renegades: Cy-kill (UW Groove), Crasher (Dust Up), Cop-Tur (Alpha Bravo), Fitor (CW Strafe), Snoop (Silverbolt), Bad Boy (Powerglide)

Emerje

And pathfinder attached in the same way Scrounge is

RiddlerJ wrote:When is the UW Computron coming out? (I know it's supposed to be this month, but it's already the 20th)

The thing is, the Hasbro Technobots set would probably be better off with the standard combiner hands/feet since those figures need some guns.

Sjeng wrote:So why did they switch the hands and feet again? Kind of a false comparison this way...

Sjeng wrote:So why did they switch the hands and feet again? Kind of a false comparison this way...

DeadCaL wrote:Why did Takara go to all that effort only to give him the standard goofy hands and feet? The Hasbro one has a much more imposing stance at least.

Delta Magnus wrote: Whilst Hasbro does have new hands and feet...they suck. The hands are lumps with zero articulation (even the hand-foot-guns had finger flaps) and the feet are completely hollow, which doesn't bode well for their stability. Granted you could fill the feet's gaping voids with fishing weights or make some metal fillers on Shapeways, but really they shouldn't have been hollow in the first place. Whilst Takara does have reused HFGs, they make better hands than the dedicated hands- as feet they aren't great but they're not much worse than the hollow messes the Hasbro one comes with.

DeadCaL wrote:Why did Takara go to all that effort only to give him the standard goofy hands and feet?

RiddlerJ wrote:On a side note, this reminds me. Has anyone heard if Takara Blast Off is getting a solo release like Groove did?

Sabrblade wrote:

DeadCaL wrote:Why did Takara go to all that effort only to give him the standard goofy hands and feet?

Because the Takara one is a standard, ordinary release while Hasbro's is an uber special bells-and-whistles special treatment release.

For Hasbro, their releasing Computron is a huge deal. For Takara, their releasing Computron is just standard procedure.

RiddlerJ wrote:On a side note, this reminds me. Has anyone heard if Takara Blast Off is getting a solo release like Groove did?

Kurona wrote:Oh huh, I didn't notice Takara Scattershot had his robot mode chest remolded too. That's pretty cool.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Oh huh, I didn't notice Takara Scattershot had his robot mode chest remolded too. That's pretty cool.

His knees too

o.supreme wrote:I know this probably sounds like an overly simplistic question...But I wonder if anyone from Hasbro or Takara has ever been asked why their design teams do not work together? Especially since their product is manufactured in the same place. I know there are probably a lot of obstacles that maybe would make it not-so-appealing. But in this day and age, all those obstacles can be overcome. Sure, perhaps even 20 years ago when online shopping was just in its infancy, and fandom on both sides were jus barely starting to connect, most would have no idea, or care about differences in toys from other regions. But now things are different, and the differences in Hasbro's Computron and Takara's is a prime (no pun intended) example. Thanks to 3rd party vendors, fans have more access than ever before to Takara's product (often favoring it for one reason or another). But Takara does not profit from purchases made by non-Japanese consumers, and one could argue that Hasbro's profit it effected by so many consumers choosing "foreign" product over their own. Yet...if both teams had worked together on this project (for good or ill) , there would be only one, and at least, the argument of "which is better" would not have to be debated.

Sabrblade wrote:

Father's Day! Featuring Energon Cake and Energon Champagne.

The girl seen here is Sue, daughter of Marissa Faireborn, who apparently got busy with Dirk Manus after all.

o.supreme wrote:I know this probably sounds like an overly simplistic question...But I wonder if anyone from Hasbro or Takara has ever been asked why their design teams do not work together?

But Takara does not profit from purchases made by non-Japanese consumers

Decepticon Stryker wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:On a side note, this reminds me. Has anyone heard if Takara Blast Off is getting a solo release like Groove did?

Unfortunately I think it's an exclusive to the Bruticus set. Unless a third party decides to send some help our way. Or if Takara decides to be generous, which they have been with Groove so there is a small chance.

william-james88 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I know this probably sounds like an overly simplistic question...But I wonder if anyone from Hasbro or Takara has ever been asked why their design teams do not work together?

I dont understand how people can think Takara and Hasbro have not worked on Computron together when they have the same bloody toy in both of their sets:

Kurona wrote:Which just makes the whole thing more utterly bizarre to me because why didn't they take more of Takara's Computicon? If they straight-up had the choice how could they seriously consciously think using their previous Scattershot was better than using Takara's Scattershot with the new Computron head?
Oy they give me a headache...

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Which just makes the whole thing more utterly bizarre to me because why didn't they take more of Takara's Computicon? If they straight-up had the choice how could they seriously consciously think using their previous Scattershot was better than using Takara's Scattershot with the new Computron head?
Oy they give me a headache...

The ne tooling didn't fit their budget plans. They wanted to instead ensure they had a legends figure.

There is also that bs quote from their q&a about wanting to be different.

RAR wrote:
So here is a question if There was a line that included the likes of Hoist, Sideswipe & others... is there a potential repaint in one of the torso to complement them ?

RiddlerJ wrote:

RAR wrote:
So here is a question if There was a line that included the likes of Hoist, Sideswipe & others... is there a potential repaint in one of the torso to complement them ?

Hot Spot mold as Inferno?

Kurona wrote:Suppose that also explains why Afterbreaker doesn't have Afterburner's new guns.

Q: What goes into the decision-making process of things like for the figures’ prime character still having a Superion head versus a few months later Takara comes out with a Generation 1-accurate Computron head?

John: That’s a good question. A complicated question.

Ben: Yeah, I don’t think it’s something we can get into the full details here, it’s something we definitely know and acknowledge for you guys it can be confusing, but it’s a decision we make on, a lot of it is timing-based, what we kinda wanna get on the market certain things and in our stories. And some of it may have to do with what we’re doing outside of toys and video games, you know, stuff that’s influencing and impacting how we approach our characters and our stories, so we often have an eye to the future that the things we introduce here we expect to see that kind of evolution of that character and that look in other spaces. So, a lot of what you see here is an homage to the past, but as John and Eddie have talked about, a lot of what we’re doing too is an eye towards the future of bringing new fans in and kind of giving us a chance to tell a new story versus kinda being chained to only the old stories. Hopefully you guys all see that big part of the new Machinima Combiner Wars story is there’s a lot of story that’s untold, a lot of gray area, a lot of gaps in our continuity, and that’s part of what we see the opportunity to do with the toys. Like, let’s fill in some gaps, let’s do some cool things that kind of open up the freedom whether it’s a comic or animation just to introduce something new.