Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Computron Colour Image

DeathReviews wrote:I just hope they start to retro-actively sell hand/foot accessories for ALL the combiners like Menasor/Bruticus/etc. which are similar to the new ones they made for Computron. The default hand/foot accessories were a clever idea, but they're just.... not very good.

WeatherManNX01 wrote:Sadly, Takara gets a points deduction for keeping with the regular Combiner Wars hands and feet while Hasbro gets the new extremities.

WeatherManNX01 wrote:Sadly, Takara gets a points deduction for keeping with the regular Combiner Wars hands and feet while Hasbro gets the new extremities.

william-james88 wrote:You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

Exactly, now everyone there is just going to kinda roll their eye's during the presentation of how amazing hasbro's computron is and then bombard them with questions about whether the new hands and feet can be sold individually.

I wonder if hasbro picks up on being able to make a decent profit on them if they might make a run of hands and feet in black and white for us to use... I doubt it

Randomhero wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

Exactly, now everyone there is just going to kinda roll their eye's during the presentation of how amazing hasbro's computron is and then bombard them with questions about whether the new hands and feet can be sold individually.

I wonder if hasbro picks up on being able to make a decent profit on them if they might make a run of hands and feet in black and white for us to use... I doubt it

Considering the vocal fandom online are a fraction of the over all fandom and the fans who go for Takara stuff are also a fraction of the fandom Hasbros Computron will sell just fine.

Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:You know whats funy though? Hasbro's Computron is the main thing being revealed this week-end at Botcon. Not the greatest timing. Reminds me of last Botcon when Takara revealed at the same time in another event all their changes to Devastator.

Exactly, now everyone there is just going to kinda roll their eye's during the presentation of how amazing hasbro's computron is and then bombard them with questions about whether the new hands and feet can be sold individually.

I wonder if hasbro picks up on being able to make a decent profit on them if they might make a run of hands and feet in black and white for us to use... I doubt it

Considering the vocal fandom online are a fraction of the over all fandom and the fans who go for Takara stuff are also a fraction of the fandom Hasbros Computron will sell just fine.

Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

I never said it wouldn't sell well, I just said people would be rolling their eye's while hasbro tries to hype theirs, knowing there's a vastly superior version that's been revealed already

DeathReviews wrote:Still hoping for an Abominus combiner set that has all new, actual beasts instead of yet more Stunticon remolds.

Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

Randomhero wrote:I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

No way is breakdown weaker than the first release of hasbro MM, that thing was disgusting

Randomhero wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hasbros devastator did just fine. I bought Hasbros, my friends only bought Hasbros and he was always sold out at toysrus. I don't know anyone I personally and physically know that bought takaras. It will do just fine. I'm getting Takara for the reason I posted already. I have not gotten one yet and I feel I should give them a go. If I change my mind, Hasbros will do just fine for me.

It did fine because its Devastator. There are 2 things that you have to consider with that release:

1. It was the year's biggest release of THE fan favourite combiner
2. Those two devastator are much more similar to eachother than the two computrons are ad the price difference is minimal too.

Takara's Computron actually has 3 limbs that are completely different. Not saying Hasbro's wont sell well, it will do as well as the G2 sets. But the comparison to Devastator is not the best.

I agree. I love the deadend mold and was looking forward to it on Computron. The breakdown mold? Eh...not so much. It personally is the weakest combiner wars/united figure IMO. HOWEVER, I do own 5 molds of deadend. It's a great mold but I'm getting fatigue with it

No way is breakdown weaker than the first release of hasbro MM, that thing was disgusting

It still worked. I just acquired the fixed version of motor master literally 2 weeks ago. I had the one with messed up legs for 11 months and I didn't have problems with him. He still stood up fine and managed to do some good poses. I only picked up a second because I saw it at a store, checked the code and said "sure why not"

It is better I won't deny but I certainly wouldn't say some bad ratchets makes him completely awful. Again had it for almost a whole year.

Mindmaster wrote:Yeah, Takara's is the way to go on Computron for me. Not just for the extra love on each individual and Computron's torso: the hands and feet also do me in. It would bug the living crap out of me to have all my combiner's have the standard HFGs, and then here comes Hasbro's Computron with dedicated hands and feet throwing off the symmetry!

TF-fan kev777 wrote:The Takara colors and the extra details on the torso sealed the deal for me, just pre-ordered on BBTS. Of course, I'm not ruling out Hasbro's just yet, but it is unlikely that I get both ($$$). If I come into some unexpected cash around the time he comes out, however...

TF-fan kev777 wrote:The Takara colors and the extra details on the torso sealed the deal for me, just pre-ordered on BBTS. Of course, I'm not ruling out Hasbro's just yet, but it is unlikely that I get both ($$$). If I come into some unexpected cash around the time he comes out, however...

william-james88 wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:The Takara colors and the extra details on the torso sealed the deal for me, just pre-ordered on BBTS. Of course, I'm not ruling out Hasbro's just yet, but it is unlikely that I get both ($$$). If I come into some unexpected cash around the time he comes out, however...

You can always get the Hasbro on sale later if the price is cheap enough.

william-james88 wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:The Takara colors and the extra details on the torso sealed the deal for me, just pre-ordered on BBTS. Of course, I'm not ruling out Hasbro's just yet, but it is unlikely that I get both ($$$). If I come into some unexpected cash around the time he comes out, however...

You can always get the Hasbro on sale later if the price is cheap enough.

Rodimus Knight wrote:I just don't understand why Hasbro uses cheap variations on already existing combiners, and Takara remakes the original ones. Better why why doesn't hasbro just wait until the Takara version is done and use that.

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I just don't understand why Hasbro uses cheap variations on already existing combiners, and Takara remakes the original ones. Better why why doesn't hasbro just wait until the Takara version is done and use that.

Because Takara isn't as restricted in terms of Production Costs as Hasbro. Simple as that.

Randomhero wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I just don't understand why Hasbro uses cheap variations on already existing combiners, and Takara remakes the original ones. Better why why doesn't hasbro just wait until the Takara version is done and use that.

Because Takara isn't as restricted in terms of Production Costs as Hasbro. Simple as that.

Also because Takara doesn't exactly make those decisions. Hasbro are the ones that decide on what to put out. If hasbro didn't do combiner wars, than Takara wouldn't have made United. Same for Power Core Combiners. 3 or 4 years after we got PCC they started using PCC wasn't it? Same as animated? Takara follows what hasbro does. That's the truth. That's why most of the legends figures came out 9 months to a year after Hasbros releases. Hasbro does their thing and Takara waits to see how they can achieve it as well. That's why it's taken 2 1/2 years for Takara to finally do something with the Generations Skids mold. Still nothing on Jhiaxus...

Takara is very picky on what they want to make and do. It's in Hasbros best interest to wait and see what Takara does, especially if a lot of behind the scenes designing is from Hasbro.

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I just don't understand why Hasbro uses cheap variations on already existing combiners, and Takara remakes the original ones. Better why why doesn't hasbro just wait until the Takara version is done and use that.

Because Takara isn't as restricted in terms of Production Costs as Hasbro. Simple as that.

Also because Takara doesn't exactly make those decisions. Hasbro are the ones that decide on what to put out. If hasbro didn't do combiner wars, than Takara wouldn't have made United. Same for Power Core Combiners. 3 or 4 years after we got PCC they started using PCC wasn't it? Same as animated? Takara follows what hasbro does. That's the truth. That's why most of the legends figures came out 9 months to a year after Hasbros releases. Hasbro does their thing and Takara waits to see how they can achieve it as well. That's why it's taken 2 1/2 years for Takara to finally do something with the Generations Skids mold. Still nothing on Jhiaxus...

Takara is very picky on what they want to make and do. It's in Hasbros best interest to wait and see what Takara does, especially if a lot of behind the scenes designing is from Hasbro.

I dont get the mention of behind the scenes, Hasbro has videos of designers talking about coming up with combiner wars. The system is well known:

Hasbro comes up with a design
They send it to Takara and pay takara to do the engineering
Takara then gets to use that toy to do as they wish with it (including remolding it)

With Computron what is interesting is that all the molds were already available. The engineering was already done for all of them. Takara did their thing and so did Hasbro, at the same time. I am sure both knew what they were doing.

And you are totally right in saying that Takara only did these now because Hasbro started it. However, it is not true to say that Takara always waits for Hasbro. They didnt for these combiners:



Or the etire MP line.

Also Takara releasing things after means nothing. Its not because Hasbro has a head start, the engineering is done by Takara and they can both release them after if they want. The Entire Galaxy Force line was first released by Takara.

And here's a modern day example: the TAV Quillfire and Thunderhoof were released in Japanese retail before American retail.

The schedule doesnt mean anything and shouldnt serve as a support to any argument.

leokearon wrote:The Takara one is amazing, the only things Hasbro has in it's favour is using the Streetwise mold for Lightspeed and Scrounge

ZeroWolf wrote:Gigatron wasn't a takara mold?

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Gigatron wasn't a takara mold?

He was talking about the good guys. Gigatron was a takara mold, yes.

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:I just don't understand why Hasbro uses cheap variations on already existing combiners, and Takara remakes the original ones. Better why why doesn't hasbro just wait until the Takara version is done and use that.

Because Takara isn't as restricted in terms of Production Costs as Hasbro. Simple as that.

Also because Takara doesn't exactly make those decisions. Hasbro are the ones that decide on what to put out. If hasbro didn't do combiner wars, than Takara wouldn't have made United. Same for Power Core Combiners. 3 or 4 years after we got PCC they started using PCC wasn't it? Same as animated? Takara follows what hasbro does. That's the truth. That's why most of the legends figures came out 9 months to a year after Hasbros releases. Hasbro does their thing and Takara waits to see how they can achieve it as well. That's why it's taken 2 1/2 years for Takara to finally do something with the Generations Skids mold. Still nothing on Jhiaxus...

Takara is very picky on what they want to make and do. It's in Hasbros best interest to wait and see what Takara does, especially if a lot of behind the scenes designing is from Hasbro.

I dont get the mention of behind the scenes, Hasbro has videos of designers talking about coming up with combiner wars. The system is well known:

Hasbro comes up with a design
They send it to Takara and pay takara to do the engineering
Takara then gets to use that toy to do as they wish with it (including remolding it)

With Computron what is interesting is that all the molds were already available. The engineering was already done for all of them. Takara did their thing and so did Hasbro, at the same time. I am sure both knew what they were doing.

And you are totally right in saying that Takara only did these now because Hasbro started it. However, it is not true to say that Takara always waits for Hasbro. They didnt for these combiners:



Or the etire MP line.

Also Takara releasing things after means nothing. Its not because Hasbro has a head start, the engineering is done by Takara and they can both release them after if they want. The Entire Galaxy Force line was first released by Takara.

And here's a modern day example: the TAV Quillfire and Thunderhoof were released in Japanese retail before American retail.

The schedule doesnt mean anything and shouldnt serve as a support to any argument.

Randomhero wrote:Takara does do their own stuff once in a while and when they do it's weird as hell. In my opinion lol. From That odd prime spinoff to Nike shoes transformers to those weird SD quick change car bots that are popular.

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Takara does do their own stuff once in a while and when they do it's weird as hell. In my opinion lol. From That odd prime spinoff to Nike shoes transformers to those weird SD quick change car bots that are popular.

Just making sure, does that mean you find the Masterpiece line weird as hell?