Takara Transformers Masterpiece Cheetor Revealed at Tokyo toy Show 2016
Friday, June 10th, 2016 10:10PM CDT
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Posted by Seibertron on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:15pm CDT
Looks great. Bring on the rest of the main cast!
Posted by Tranzilla on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:20pm CDT
Annnnnnnnd...please confirm Waspy and/or Dinobot. Preferably, AND.
Posted by Seibertron on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:22pm CDT
Posted by JazZeke on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:25pm CDT
Oh my gosh
...Oh my gosh
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:25pm CDT
Posted by wilcosu35 on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:45pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:52pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:52pm CDT
Tranzilla wrote:C'mooooooon Shadow Panther recolor and Tigatron remold. Cataclysm would be cool, too.
Annnnnnnnd...please confirm Waspy and/or Dinobot. Preferably, AND.
It'd be cool Shadow Panther used the Tigatron remold (who should have a bulkier body), but with an actual panther head.
Posted by Hanzako on June 10th, 2016 @ 10:59pm CDT
MORE MASTERPIECE BEASTIES!!!!!!!
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on June 10th, 2016 @ 11:11pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2016 @ 11:28pm CDT
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on June 10th, 2016 @ 11:36pm CDT
Posted by wilcosu35 on June 10th, 2016 @ 11:43pm CDT
The rest of him, and especially the bot mode, looks amazingly toon-accurate. The head crest seems a smidge large, but that's nitpicking.
Posted by Ballistic90 on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:03am CDT
Posted by Burn on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:28am CDT
Posted by MightyMagnus78 on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:45am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 11th, 2016 @ 4:12am CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on June 11th, 2016 @ 4:27am CDT
Burn wrote:...Tempted to cancel my pre-order for Primal, not to put my money towards this, but because I really don't think I need Beast Wars Masterpieces.
Yes, you do.
I'm not fully happy with this, but I'm 99% sure that's due to lack of final colors.
Posted by Kurona on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:05am CDT
What the hell world is this where I'm excited for Cheetor
Posted by Burn on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:04am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Burn wrote:...Tempted to cancel my pre-order for Primal, not to put my money towards this, but because I really don't think I need Beast Wars Masterpieces.
Yes, you do.
I'm not fully happy with this, but I'm 99% sure that's due to lack of final colors.
No, I really don't. I was left disappointed with the Generations incarnations, which made me appreciate the originals even more. Considering I have a nearly complete BW, BWII and BW Neo collection, adding Masterpieces into the equation doesn't really achieve anything.
Posted by Va'al on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:12am CDT
Burn wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Burn wrote:...Tempted to cancel my pre-order for Primal, not to put my money towards this, but because I really don't think I need Beast Wars Masterpieces.
Yes, you do.
I'm not fully happy with this, but I'm 99% sure that's due to lack of final colors.
No, I really don't. I was left disappointed with the Generations incarnations, which made me appreciate the originals even more. Considering I have a nearly complete BW, BWII and BW Neo collection, adding Masterpieces into the equation doesn't really achieve anything.
Posted by frogbat on June 11th, 2016 @ 7:40am CDT
Posted by SureShot18 on June 11th, 2016 @ 7:41am CDT
Posted by griftimus prime on June 11th, 2016 @ 8:03am CDT
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on June 11th, 2016 @ 8:48am CDT
OMG.... I didn't think they'd actually pull Cheetor off... I'm amazed.
For those that weren't impressed with the Generations update (I sure wasn't, did he ever use shriukens?) I'm not sure why you'd hold that against the MP release. (Unless you're taking yourself out of another collection, which I can understand). But this cheetor feels like what the original always was in my head. While I'm not sure I can see an MP Rattrap trumping the Generations release... that "second" attempt at Cheetor was a hot mess.
Will be interesting to see colors, if they actually go with the intestings (gutbuster) cannon. I love the throw back to the tail-gun from the original toy. I don't think he ever used it in the animation.
I do hope Dinobot is next... though I'm still hoping for a faceplate version (since the original toy release had one, and that was always my favorite). Bonus points if they leave the rib/shins translucent.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on June 11th, 2016 @ 8:49am CDT
griftimus prime wrote:too many great versions of primal out there so i skipped the mp primal. but this one looks like a keeper. wont pay full price for it though.
I was on the fence with MP Primal, because TBH there wasn't anything wrong with the origianl release (if you can find one these days). However, the show accurate wrist-cannons are interesting. And to a degree I think the egineering magic in these beasties could be more interesting that some of the G1 MPs... we'll find out.
Posted by Evil Eye on June 11th, 2016 @ 12:00pm CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on June 11th, 2016 @ 12:40pm CDT
Burn wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:Burn wrote:...Tempted to cancel my pre-order for Primal, not to put my money towards this, but because I really don't think I need Beast Wars Masterpieces.
Yes, you do.
I'm not fully happy with this, but I'm 99% sure that's due to lack of final colors.
No, I really don't. I was left disappointed with the Generations incarnations, which made me appreciate the originals even more. Considering I have a nearly complete BW, BWII and BW Neo collection, adding Masterpieces into the equation doesn't really achieve anything.
Fair enough. Sounds nutty to me, but I'm well aware of how nutty many others consider my own opinions.
Very little if my own BW collection has withstood the test of time, or even survived, so this stuff is the bees knees to me.
Posted by ScottyP on June 11th, 2016 @ 1:06pm CDT
Fun observations/speculation from making bad attempts at translating the machine translation of the Japanese twitter accounts posting about this from the show follow, none of this should be taken as factual:
- Cheetor was shown in a presentation shortly before being unveiled on the show floor, but pictures weren't allowed because Takara wanted full control over how this was presented to the public. Apparently, this is because the reactions to the tiny bit of Beast Convoy shown a year ago were not what they expected, with fans jumping to conclusions based on the limited amount shown. I say "good on them", but this was apparently not a popular decision with those in attendance.
- In same presentation, there were some hints about how good a dinosaur may look given this treatment? This was super hard to make anything of, but it seems that MP Beast Megatron might have sort of been hinted at, maybe as the next one of these happening if successful. Could also have easily been a joke, reference to Dinobot, or a poor reading of poorly translated tweets on my part. Still fun to dream!
Posted by Seibertron on June 11th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CDT
Rhinox, Rattrap and Waspinator all recently got decent (not perfect, but still really awesome) updates in the Generations/Legends lines so I'd stay away from them. However, Dinobot, Cheetor, Tigatron, Airazor, Terrorsaur, Blackarachnia, Tarantulas, Scorponok, and especially Megatron all really need some proper toys. I think the concept should have been proven with any of those first, and then worked back to Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rhinox and Waspinator. The problem with my idea is that Hasbro and Takara love to lead out with an Optimus toy, but I feel like in this case, that was a poor decision.
Another issue is ... why is it taking almost 1.5 years from when they first showed Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal from when we are actually going to get him? Is it going to take 1.5 years until we get Cheetor?
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:05pm CDT
Also, god help me if they do BIG or Lio Convoy.... Regarding Seib's post. I agree that Primal wasn't the best choice for the first go. Though... if it "has to be a Prime" Lio Convoy would have been interesting... though I suppose it wouldn't have made a lot a sense to US fans....
Posted by EvilOmar on June 11th, 2016 @ 3:25pm CDT
Posted by Zeedust on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:30pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:38pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Regarding Scott's post above, I think Optimus Primal was a poor choice to go with as the first reveal/release. His original toy is still pretty awesome, especially with the remolds it got 10 years ago which Takara themselves thought were good enough for a release in Transformers Legends at the tail end of 2014.
Rhinox, Rattrap and Waspinator all recently got decent (not perfect, but still really awesome) updates in the Generations/Legends lines so I'd stay away from them. However, Dinobot, Cheetor, Tigatron, Airazor, Terrorsaur, Blackarachnia, Tarantulas, Scorponok, and especially Megatron all really need some proper toys. I think the concept should have been proven with any of those first, and then worked back to Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rhinox and Waspinator. The problem with my idea is that Hasbro and Takara love to lead out with an Optimus toy, but I feel like in this case, that was a poor decision.
Another issue is ... why is it taking almost 1.5 years from when they first showed Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal from when we are actually going to get him? Is it going to take 1.5 years until we get Cheetor?
I disagree, I think it sets a nice standard for what they aim to achieve with this sub-line/theme. I am of the opinion that, unless the beast mode looked like the show, there is no 'great' Primal. The went out of their way to demonstrate that they are aiming for a show-accurate beast mode and bot mode, while also fitting in whatever gimmicks or features they can from the toy; that, and Primal offered a challenge, but was doable for being the first in the series due to his relative bulk, plus as others have said he is iconic enough that he would have pretty good sales either way, thus ensuring continued interest in the line.
Posted by ScottyP on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:38pm CDT
On the timing, I really think that was a case of something getting shown when they had barely scratched the surface of actually making the thing. Not something done often, but if some rumors are to be believed about Masterpiece there are a lot of designs in the pipe already in progress and some that are even conceptually finished and just waiting for licensing deals to close. Revealing some of that stuff now, way early, would probably lead to wait for that product like the length of the wait for Primal.Seibertron wrote:Regarding Scott's post above, I think Optimus Primal was a poor choice to go with as the first reveal/release. His original toy is still pretty awesome, especially with the remolds it got 10 years ago which Takara themselves thought were good enough for a release in Transformers Legends at the tail end of 2014.
Rhinox, Rattrap and Waspinator all recently got decent (not perfect, but still really awesome) updates in the Generations/Legends lines so I'd stay away from them. However, Dinobot, Cheetor, Tigatron, Airazor, Terrorsaur, Blackarachnia, Tarantulas, Scorponok, and especially Megatron all really need some proper toys. I think the concept should have been proven with any of those first, and then worked back to Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rhinox and Waspinator. The problem with my idea is that Hasbro and Takara love to lead out with an Optimus toy, but I feel like in this case, that was a poor decision.
Another issue is ... why is it taking almost 1.5 years from when they first showed Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal from when we are actually going to get him? Is it going to take 1.5 years until we get Cheetor?
I'd also personally rather them lead out the line of Beast MPs with someone like Megatron, but let's be honest here, Takara is going to lead with some version of Convoy every time whenever possible. He's the face of the franchise, and probably seen as a "safe" play that will help other oddball stuff like Inferno keep happening. I imagine this is why there was a run of characters like Bumblebee and Ultra Magnus just before something like Tracks that's an iconic character but not on that A-tier within the brand.
Posted by shajaki on June 11th, 2016 @ 8:07pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:23pm CDT
I honestly don't think anyone is that worried about it, due to the overwhelming awesome that is this feat of engineering art
Posted by shajaki on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:37pm CDT
No one is raving, but it was the one common complaint so far.Hellscream9999 wrote:I honestly don't think anyone is that worried about it, due to the overwhelming awesome that is this feat of engineering artshajaki wrote:I think Cheetor looks phenomenal. And those concerned with the rear leg kibble, the fact that three's as little as there is, astonishes me. Congrats Takara
I just really hope, if this line continues (I have full faith it will) that Tigatron is NOT a slight remold of this.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:50pm CDT
shajaki wrote:No one is raving, but it was the one common complaint so far.Hellscream9999 wrote:I honestly don't think anyone is that worried about it, due to the overwhelming awesome that is this feat of engineering artshajaki wrote:I think Cheetor looks phenomenal. And those concerned with the rear leg kibble, the fact that three's as little as there is, astonishes me. Congrats Takara
I just really hope, if this line continues (I have full faith it will) that Tigatron is NOT a slight remold of this.
What about an up-scaled remold? They are nearly identical in bot mode...
Posted by shajaki on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:53pm CDT
Upscaled and beast parts remolded, sureHellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:No one is raving, but it was the one common complaint so far.Hellscream9999 wrote:I honestly don't think anyone is that worried about it, due to the overwhelming awesome that is this feat of engineering artshajaki wrote:I think Cheetor looks phenomenal. And those concerned with the rear leg kibble, the fact that three's as little as there is, astonishes me. Congrats Takara
I just really hope, if this line continues (I have full faith it will) that Tigatron is NOT a slight remold of this.
What about an up-scaled remold? They are nearly identical in bot mode...
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:56pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Upscaled and beast parts remolded, sureHellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:No one is raving, but it was the one common complaint so far.Hellscream9999 wrote:I honestly don't think anyone is that worried about it, due to the overwhelming awesome that is this feat of engineering artshajaki wrote:I think Cheetor looks phenomenal. And those concerned with the rear leg kibble, the fact that three's as little as there is, astonishes me. Congrats Takara
I just really hope, if this line continues (I have full faith it will) that Tigatron is NOT a slight remold of this.
What about an up-scaled remold? They are nearly identical in bot mode...
I wonder how easy that is? Would they just increase the size of the 3d model (with changed parts) and just send that to the thingy that turns it into molds for the factory?
But until we see them side by side, we won't know if they're making them scale
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:03pm CDT
They could do whatever was done for Energon Megatron/Galvatron and Super Link Galvatron/Galvatron G.Hellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:Upscaled and beast parts remolded, sureHellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:No one is raving, but it was the one common complaint so far.Hellscream9999 wrote:I honestly don't think anyone is that worried about it, due to the overwhelming awesome that is this feat of engineering artshajaki wrote:I think Cheetor looks phenomenal. And those concerned with the rear leg kibble, the fact that three's as little as there is, astonishes me. Congrats Takara
I just really hope, if this line continues (I have full faith it will) that Tigatron is NOT a slight remold of this.
What about an up-scaled remold? They are nearly identical in bot mode...
I wonder how easy that is? Would they just increase the size of the 3d model (with changed parts) and just send that to the thingy that turns it into molds for the factory?
But until we see them side by side, we won't know if they're making them scale
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:They could do whatever was done for Energon Megatron/Galvatron and Super Link Galvatron/Galvatron G.Hellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:Upscaled and beast parts remolded, sureHellscream9999 wrote:shajaki wrote:No one is raving, but it was the one common complaint so far.Hellscream9999 wrote:I honestly don't think anyone is that worried about it, due to the overwhelming awesome that is this feat of engineering artshajaki wrote:I think Cheetor looks phenomenal. And those concerned with the rear leg kibble, the fact that three's as little as there is, astonishes me. Congrats Takara
I just really hope, if this line continues (I have full faith it will) that Tigatron is NOT a slight remold of this.
What about an up-scaled remold? They are nearly identical in bot mode...
I wonder how easy that is? Would they just increase the size of the 3d model (with changed parts) and just send that to the thingy that turns it into molds for the factory?
But until we see them side by side, we won't know if they're making them scale
Yeah, I know, but I wanted specifics, the process intrigues me
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:09pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:25pm CDT
Posted by Microraptor on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:32pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:36pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:37pm CDT
Microraptor wrote:This is gorgeous. Bit of a derpy cheetah face, but i'll take it.
At least you get 3, but he did have a rather derpy face sometimes (and it's those we remember most fondly )
Sabrblade wrote:Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.
Yup
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:39pm CDT
This Cheetor is a cheater.Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.
Yup
Or rather, this Cheetus is gonna cheat us.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:44pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:This Cheetor is a cheater.Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Notice that the cheetah head in robot mode is a different one from the beast mode's cheetah head.
Yup
Or rather, this Cheetus is gonna cheat us.
Nah, it looks way better this way, and reconciles the two different designs (beast/bot, as they are noticeably different in the show)