Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release
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Less than twenty four hours ago, we had out first look at Takara's take on the Transformers Power of the Primes line. It showed no discernible differences from the Hasbro versions we have seen so far. However, as we are always the optimists, we preferred to wait for confirmation that the images were indeed of the Takara products as opposed to a hobby website using Hasbro products as placeholder images.
However, a new update on the official Takara Transformers website reveals that every image we saw was indeed directly from Takara showing the upcoming Takara releases. The same toys revealed earlier are now on Takara's website with the very same images that we previously saw with no watermark. Even the small MAGA in Cybertronian text is still found on Jazz' vehicle mode.
To add to that, the website even makes use of the Generations logo, removing any doubt that this line is anything more than a Japanese release of the very same Hasbro toys. It is even written, in Japanese, that the deluxes will interact with the voyagers, hinting at the combiner aspect. Of course, this does not confirm that all combiners in Hasbro's Power of the Primes line, such as the Dinobots and Abominus, will be released in this Takara PP line rather than a line made up of boxsets, like with Unite Warriors. There can still be hope that those particular combiners will get a release more in line with what fans would expect. However, it does mean that Jazz does not particularly belong with a combiner of his own in the Japanese line and will instead combine with whatever other voyager (yes, the word "voyager" is used) will be released in Takara's PP line.
While Takara releasing the exact same toys as Hasbro may seem odd at first, it is very much in line with what we have seen in 2017. Not only was Takara's biggest (literal) release, Trypticon, identical to Hasbro's, but their TLK movie toyline, their biggest Transformers toyline in terms of volume, was mostly made up of the very same toys that Hasbro released in their Transformers: The Last Knight toyline (only the leader class Optimus counterpart was different). That line even had the same packaging, which could also happen with this PP line, especially since they are advertising it with the use of the same Generations logo.
Below is Takara's pictorial announcement of this new line broken up by the different images found on their web page along with some of the same images we have previously seen but without the watermarks.
However, a new update on the official Takara Transformers website reveals that every image we saw was indeed directly from Takara showing the upcoming Takara releases. The same toys revealed earlier are now on Takara's website with the very same images that we previously saw with no watermark. Even the small MAGA in Cybertronian text is still found on Jazz' vehicle mode.
To add to that, the website even makes use of the Generations logo, removing any doubt that this line is anything more than a Japanese release of the very same Hasbro toys. It is even written, in Japanese, that the deluxes will interact with the voyagers, hinting at the combiner aspect. Of course, this does not confirm that all combiners in Hasbro's Power of the Primes line, such as the Dinobots and Abominus, will be released in this Takara PP line rather than a line made up of boxsets, like with Unite Warriors. There can still be hope that those particular combiners will get a release more in line with what fans would expect. However, it does mean that Jazz does not particularly belong with a combiner of his own in the Japanese line and will instead combine with whatever other voyager (yes, the word "voyager" is used) will be released in Takara's PP line.
While Takara releasing the exact same toys as Hasbro may seem odd at first, it is very much in line with what we have seen in 2017. Not only was Takara's biggest (literal) release, Trypticon, identical to Hasbro's, but their TLK movie toyline, their biggest Transformers toyline in terms of volume, was mostly made up of the very same toys that Hasbro released in their Transformers: The Last Knight toyline (only the leader class Optimus counterpart was different). That line even had the same packaging, which could also happen with this PP line, especially since they are advertising it with the use of the same Generations logo.
Below is Takara's pictorial announcement of this new line broken up by the different images found on their web page along with some of the same images we have previously seen but without the watermarks.
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Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925709)
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 2:30am CST
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 2:30am CST
I guess they're giving collectors a break after they crush our wallets in March.
Emerje
Emerje
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925713)
Posted by Deadput on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:03am CST
Posted by Deadput on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:03am CST
Most people are going to be disappointed but for me thank Christ I get to save money, not that I was going to buy most of the figures in POTP anyways besides the Prime Masters, Jazz and Legends class figures because their not Headmasters or interact with them you know. (Might get the Optimus Primal and the two Rodimus Primes though)
Could also make the Takara fanatics actually realize that Takara is not always going to meet your expectations and go on and beyond for the sake of a plastic figure.
Edit: Lol at all the people on all the different websites who think that evil Hasbro forced Takra to sell inferior versions, because that's totally how the business works eh?
Could also make the Takara fanatics actually realize that Takara is not always going to meet your expectations and go on and beyond for the sake of a plastic figure.
Edit: Lol at all the people on all the different websites who think that evil Hasbro forced Takra to sell inferior versions, because that's totally how the business works eh?
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925728)
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on December 8th, 2017 @ 6:21am CST
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on December 8th, 2017 @ 6:21am CST
Their goes people’s hopes for slightly better looking Windcharger at least deco wise anyway.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925733)
Posted by shajaki on December 8th, 2017 @ 7:25am CST
Posted by shajaki on December 8th, 2017 @ 7:25am CST
This is depressing. I guess they're not interested in exporting ANY of these?
BUT. As others have said, this will give my wallet a good breather.
BUT. As others have said, this will give my wallet a good breather.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925740)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on December 8th, 2017 @ 8:10am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on December 8th, 2017 @ 8:10am CST
So lemme get this straight! they're going all LG-43 with this?
well that's messed up!
I take it the days of Takara repaints are truly over
well that's messed up!
I take it the days of Takara repaints are truly over
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925741)
Posted by Albatross250 on December 8th, 2017 @ 8:16am CST
Hasbro wins, Takara Loses.
But Hey, If Takara included the Manga of these, I'll be damned
Looks like Hasbro takes the Turning Point
Posted by Albatross250 on December 8th, 2017 @ 8:16am CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:So lemme get this straight! they're going all LG-43 with this?
well that's messed up!
I take it the days of Takara repaints are truly over
Hasbro wins, Takara Loses.
But Hey, If Takara included the Manga of these, I'll be damned
Looks like Hasbro takes the Turning Point
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925742)
Posted by kurthy on December 8th, 2017 @ 8:18am CST
Posted by kurthy on December 8th, 2017 @ 8:18am CST
It's all a plan to let us save for mp Dinobot and MP BW Megatron afterwards.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925746)
Posted by albnok on December 8th, 2017 @ 9:11am CST
Don't know if this has been posted before, but guess who Starscream becomes when he becomes a torso! (Also, the "super robot" quote.)
Posted by albnok on December 8th, 2017 @ 9:11am CST
Don't know if this has been posted before, but guess who Starscream becomes when he becomes a torso! (Also, the "super robot" quote.)
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925756)
Posted by Cobotron on December 8th, 2017 @ 9:41am CST
Posted by Cobotron on December 8th, 2017 @ 9:41am CST
"Super robot"?! Well yeah! 
Here's a different super robot.
DINOPRIME!
Here's a different super robot.
DINOPRIME!
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925758)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 10:02am CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 10:02am CST
Interesting. Those instructions would seem to indicate that Volcanicus and Abominus are the only 2 planned team combiners from Hasbro so far and everyone else is an extra torso or limb.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925769)
Posted by ScottyP on December 8th, 2017 @ 10:46am CST
Posted by ScottyP on December 8th, 2017 @ 10:46am CST
This makes me sad. It makes me happy from a financial perspective though, so at least there's that.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925771)
Posted by Evil Eye on December 8th, 2017 @ 10:47am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on December 8th, 2017 @ 10:47am CST
On the plus side, at least Takara Jazz still seems to have the MAGA decal, so together with Sentinel Prime and Rook I can have the Triggering Trio.
But seriously, what the hell prompted this?
But seriously, what the hell prompted this?
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925773)
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:03am CST
I honestly have no idea, just some thoughts though...Hasbro did try to purchase TT recently, but that fell through. Perhaps Hasbro was not pleased that some fans preferred imports over their own product? Making all product the same eliminates this. However, as I've stated many times already, I'm still curious to see, what hasn't been seen yet. I believe we *may* be pleasantly surprised. I mean the TF/Street Fighter crossovers as well as re-release of Metroplex, and the upcoming Grand Maximus shows TT isn't completely washed up yet.
Also, as big a fan as I am of
, looking objectively at the first 9 figures they have for PP, other than paint aps...what really could they change? There was a time when I wanted all things to be the same across the board. I figured though that the "quality" line would be split somewhere in the middle (maybe not quite as good as , but better than the average 
product). And maybe that's what we are getting? The only figure I have thus far is Dreadwind, and while he is a CW Aeiralbot reused mold, I can see quite a bit of engineering was involved in making alterations to it. Definitely not a "lazy" figure IMHO. Perhaps we are seeing the fruition of that "split" quality difference/unification in this line.
I mean all the product comes form the same facility in Vietnam. Perhaps it was a mutually beneficial/cost effective agreement not to have 2 different runs of essentially the same toy just to appeal to local preferences? -As I said I have no facts on this, just throwing out ideas.
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:03am CST
Black Hat wrote:But seriously, what the hell prompted this?
I honestly have no idea, just some thoughts though...Hasbro did try to purchase TT recently, but that fell through. Perhaps Hasbro was not pleased that some fans preferred imports over their own product? Making all product the same eliminates this. However, as I've stated many times already, I'm still curious to see, what hasn't been seen yet. I believe we *may* be pleasantly surprised. I mean the TF/Street Fighter crossovers as well as re-release of Metroplex, and the upcoming Grand Maximus shows TT isn't completely washed up yet.
Also, as big a fan as I am of
, looking objectively at the first 9 figures they have for PP, other than paint aps...what really could they change? There was a time when I wanted all things to be the same across the board. I figured though that the "quality" line would be split somewhere in the middle (maybe not quite as good as , but better than the average product). And maybe that's what we are getting? The only figure I have thus far is Dreadwind, and while he is a CW Aeiralbot reused mold, I can see quite a bit of engineering was involved in making alterations to it. Definitely not a "lazy" figure IMHO. Perhaps we are seeing the fruition of that "split" quality difference/unification in this line.I mean all the product comes form the same facility in Vietnam. Perhaps it was a mutually beneficial/cost effective agreement not to have 2 different runs of essentially the same toy just to appeal to local preferences? -As I said I have no facts on this, just throwing out ideas.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925774)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:04am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:04am CST
And people wonder why we've got 3rd party figs! when you've got $h1t like this happening
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925776)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:16am CST
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:16am CST
People are acting like this is the end of the world. The figures we got are not bad by any stretch of the imagination and there's honestly not much Takara could've changed. Stickers sure, blue fists for prime and black for jazz and windcharger's forehead but that's pretty much it. Was there this much outcry when Takara revealed their entire last knight line to be the same as Hasbros?
And I highly doubt Hasbro has any say over what Takara does. They are partners one doesn't own the other. I think the logical answer is Takara is over extended and saw this as a way to go "easy" for once. Between Masterpiece, Legends, POTP, TLK, the upcoming movie series and MTB they have a lot of stuff out or coming out. They probably just needed a financial breather.
And I highly doubt Hasbro has any say over what Takara does. They are partners one doesn't own the other. I think the logical answer is Takara is over extended and saw this as a way to go "easy" for once. Between Masterpiece, Legends, POTP, TLK, the upcoming movie series and MTB they have a lot of stuff out or coming out. They probably just needed a financial breather.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925782)
Posted by Skritz on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:52am CST
Well that would REALLY sucks.
Posted by Skritz on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:52am CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Interesting. Those instructions would seem to indicate that Volcanicus and Abominus are the only 2 planned team combiners from Hasbro so far and everyone else is an extra torso or limb.
Well that would REALLY sucks.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925788)
Posted by KVO Prime on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:08pm CST
Posted by KVO Prime on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:08pm CST
Well that sucks. Was hoping for blue fists on OP and darker gray on windcharger. Thankfully they're doing this after they released Blurr, Astrotrain, and Kup
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925792)
Posted by gothsaurus on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:16pm CST
Posted by gothsaurus on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:16pm CST
Here's hoping their release are just so spaced apart that they can't reveal them in the instructions. Holding out hope for more later.
And come on, Hasbro... we need some characterization, names, bios, pictures, stats for these combiners!!!
And come on, Hasbro... we need some characterization, names, bios, pictures, stats for these combiners!!!
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925793)
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:16pm CST
Posted by Bronzewolf on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:16pm CST
The newest Transformers you'll be, Power of the Primes has been slowly trickling it's way into mass retail stores. For quite a while now, the figures had only been seen at Target, but now we have proof that they're making their way to other big box stores! Our very own ScottyP sent a brand new sighting our direction, not of a figure, but of a new store display!
The display comes from a Wal-Mart in North Carolina, and features various stocking stuffer toys. Among them Lego Polybags, Nerf Darts, and POTP Legend Class Figures! With a price tag of $9.94, this is one of the first times these figures have been spotted at a non-Target store, and certainly the first time we've seen this display! This will hopefully make it easier for collectors and fans to fond the highly coveted figures! Check out the provided image of the display below!
The display comes from a Wal-Mart in North Carolina, and features various stocking stuffer toys. Among them Lego Polybags, Nerf Darts, and POTP Legend Class Figures! With a price tag of $9.94, this is one of the first times these figures have been spotted at a non-Target store, and certainly the first time we've seen this display! This will hopefully make it easier for collectors and fans to fond the highly coveted figures! Check out the provided image of the display below!
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925796)
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:32pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:32pm CST
^That's a beautiful display, typical of Walmart
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925797)
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:36pm CST
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:36pm CST
So you're supposed to attach the spare fists to the back of the feet like heels, but you're also supposed to attach them to the sides of Valcanicus to fill out his torso? Didn't really think this all the way through, did you Hasbro? 
Going to have to keep an eye out for those displays. We've all been watching the pegs, but I guess it's the main aisle ways we should be watching.
Emerje
Going to have to keep an eye out for those displays. We've all been watching the pegs, but I guess it's the main aisle ways we should be watching.
Emerje
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925799)
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:44pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:44pm CST
I kid earlier, but I'm just glad we're seeing new product at all. In years past I've seen entire toy aisles wiped out by Black Friday. Not so this year. There's till plenty of TLK, and some stores still have a glut of TR Wave 4 repack deluxes (ugh...) . Not that I wanted anything from wave 5 or 6 (except Ramhorn...) But I guess I can pretty much resign looking for them. May have to bite the bullet and purchase Ramhorn on BBTS (well the whole assortment) for $20, and just get whatever I can back by reselling the ones I already have.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925802)
Posted by Skritz on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:51pm CST
Posted by Skritz on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:51pm CST
I'm still going to hope for Monstructor in Wave 5-6...
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925807)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:55pm CST
Entertainment Earth is another option for Ramhorn if you only want Ramhorn. Just no clue how much longer he is going to take from there. Currently says Jan 2018.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:55pm CST
o.supreme wrote:I kid earlier, but I'm just glad we're seeing new product at all. In years past I've seen entire toy aisles wiped out by Black Friday. Not so this year. There's till plenty of TLK, and some stores still have a glut of TR Wave 4 repack deluxes (ugh...) . Not that I wanted anything from wave 5 or 6 (except Ramhorn...) But I guess I can pretty much resign looking for them. May have to bite the bullet and purchase Ramhorn on BBTS (well the whole assortment) for $20, and just get whatever I can back by reselling the ones I already have.
Entertainment Earth is another option for Ramhorn if you only want Ramhorn. Just no clue how much longer he is going to take from there. Currently says Jan 2018.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925808)
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:56pm CST
You and me both. No reason to doubt at this point. Still may be some surprises. With CW Hasbro released several box sets (though in the US most were only available online...). For TR there were 2 box sets, bot sold exclusively through 2 different retailers (TRU & BBTS...).
Predaking next year will be odd...Normally I'd say for US residents you cojld probably get it in store at TRU, but depending on TRU's financial outlook it may be available only online at TRU.com and HTS.com... But I'm hoping for a couple of other box sets from PotP either late in 2018, or early in 2019.
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2017 @ 12:56pm CST
Skritz wrote:I'm still going to hope for Monstructor in Wave 5-6...
You and me both. No reason to doubt at this point. Still may be some surprises. With CW Hasbro released several box sets (though in the US most were only available online...). For TR there were 2 box sets, bot sold exclusively through 2 different retailers (TRU & BBTS...).
Predaking next year will be odd...Normally I'd say for US residents you cojld probably get it in store at TRU, but depending on TRU's financial outlook it may be available only online at TRU.com and HTS.com... But I'm hoping for a couple of other box sets from PotP either late in 2018, or early in 2019.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925813)
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:01pm CST
That was just speculation on a possible purchase, there wasn't an insider source or anything official said.
I think steals_your_goats has the right idea. Takara Tomy usually doesn't do a lot of lines simultaneously and they seem to have a lot planned for next year. Besides the stuff he mentioned (Legends is probably going on break after Grand Maximus and Great Shot) there's also the theorized return of Unite Warriors (for the Dinobots, Terrorcons, and the G1 Fembots if they manage a full set) and who knows what other exclusives they have planned (maybe a premium PotP Optimus?). It isn't very surprising that they'd let Hasbro take the lead on these rather than develop new paint schemes. And in hindsight this actually does a lot to explain why so many of these figures are cartoon accurate (Orion Pax and blue Swoop) when Hasbro had been going for G1 toy accuracy for a while.
Also, if this isn't proof that higher quality paint also means a higher price I don't know what is.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:01pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Hasbro did try to purchase TT recently,
That was just speculation on a possible purchase, there wasn't an insider source or anything official said.
I think steals_your_goats has the right idea. Takara Tomy usually doesn't do a lot of lines simultaneously and they seem to have a lot planned for next year. Besides the stuff he mentioned (Legends is probably going on break after Grand Maximus and Great Shot) there's also the theorized return of Unite Warriors (for the Dinobots, Terrorcons, and the G1 Fembots if they manage a full set) and who knows what other exclusives they have planned (maybe a premium PotP Optimus?). It isn't very surprising that they'd let Hasbro take the lead on these rather than develop new paint schemes. And in hindsight this actually does a lot to explain why so many of these figures are cartoon accurate (Orion Pax and blue Swoop) when Hasbro had been going for G1 toy accuracy for a while.
Also, if this isn't proof that higher quality paint also means a higher price I don't know what is.
Emerje
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925814)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:03pm CST
Why not both? First you attach the extra hands to the heels. Next you bend the legs upward like a pretzel and also attach them to the torso. Now you have Volcontortionisticus!
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:03pm CST
Emerje wrote:So you're supposed to attach the spare fists to the back of the feet like heels, but you're also supposed to attach them to the sides of Valcanicus to fill out his torso? Didn't really think this all the way through, did you Hasbro?
Why not both? First you attach the extra hands to the heels. Next you bend the legs upward like a pretzel and also attach them to the torso. Now you have Volcontortionisticus!
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925815)
Posted by gothsaurus on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CST
Posted by gothsaurus on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:05pm CST
when you buy the Grimstone and Paddles retools of Sludge and Slag... you'l have the extra fists to go in all spots 
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925816)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:12pm CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:12pm CST
Actually, I'm thinking they had to go with the combiner foot option for the extra hands for Inferno, since it looks like they are only giving him a new head and not any other retooling.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925819)
Posted by gothsaurus on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:25pm CST
Posted by gothsaurus on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:25pm CST
I thought his chest was retooled as well? If that's the only difference, will make for an easy G2 Hot Spot with a head swap. Anyone seen pictures of Inferno anywhere?
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925820)
Posted by albnok on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:44pm CST
So here's Grimlock's enigma on Titans Return Nitro and Titans Return Cogman. Head doesn't turn!
Posted by albnok on December 8th, 2017 @ 1:44pm CST
So here's Grimlock's enigma on Titans Return Nitro and Titans Return Cogman. Head doesn't turn!
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925821)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on December 8th, 2017 @ 2:01pm CST
Lol... "Display"
Dude! Yeah! Never gonna find me a Cogman, though.
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on December 8th, 2017 @ 2:01pm CST
Bronzewolf wrote:The newest Transformers you'll be, Power of the Primes has been slowly trickling it's way into mass retail stores. For quite a while now, the figures had only been seen at Target, but now we have proof that they're making their way to other big box stores! Our very own ScottyP sent a brand new sighting our direction, not of a figure, but of a new store display!
The display comes from a Wal-Mart in North Carolina, and features various stocking stuffer toys. Among them Lego Polybags, Nerf Darts, and POTP Legend Class Figures! With a price tag of $9.94, this is one of the first times these figures have been spotted at a non-Target store, and certainly the first time we've seen this display! This will hopefully make it easier for collectors and fans to fond the highly coveted figures! Check out the provided image of the display below!
Lol... "Display"
albnok wrote:
So here's Grimlock's enigma on Titans Return Nitro and Titans Return Cogman. Head doesn't turn!
Dude! Yeah! Never gonna find me a Cogman, though.
Re: Takara Tomy Website Update Confirms Transformers Power of the Primes Line Unchanged from Hasbro Release (1925822)
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CST
We really don't know. The only two pics we've seen are from around the time of the leak so it's hard to say if what we've seen is the final product or a mock up since it's likely the head sculpt already existed with the mold and it wouldn't have taken much to produce an unfinished Inferno to show off to buyers. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to have a whole play feature that involves sticking an Enigma into the chest of combiners and then use a figure that doesn't have that feature as one of your few offerings. With the amount of retooling they put into the PM jets why wouldn't they try to improve Inferno, too? Really just a matter of altering the center of Defensor's chest, doesn't seem that complicated.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 2:09pm CST
gothsaurus wrote:I thought his chest was retooled as well? If that's the only difference, will make for an easy G2 Hot Spot with a head swap. Anyone seen pictures of Inferno anywhere?
We really don't know. The only two pics we've seen are from around the time of the leak so it's hard to say if what we've seen is the final product or a mock up since it's likely the head sculpt already existed with the mold and it wouldn't have taken much to produce an unfinished Inferno to show off to buyers. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to have a whole play feature that involves sticking an Enigma into the chest of combiners and then use a figure that doesn't have that feature as one of your few offerings. With the amount of retooling they put into the PM jets why wouldn't they try to improve Inferno, too? Really just a matter of altering the center of Defensor's chest, doesn't seem that complicated.
Emerje
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 2:31pm CST
I'm not sure we even saw any photos of the actual product or even a mockup. Rather, I though all we've seen so far were the box art and a portion of the instructions. What we do know is that they didn't retool the arms to be able to accept the combiner feet as bucklers, rather, they have you combine the feet with the regular Hot Spot guns to make bigger (and worse looking) guns. From the box art/instructions, the chest area of the combiner torso looked pretty much identical to Defensor.
As for modifying it to include the gimmick, that may actually be a bit difficult, depending on how deep it would need to sit. Remember that the area of the combiner torso where the matrix would go is formed from 2 different pars of Inferno, the ladder and the main body of the bot/fire truck. Not impossible, but not an easy change either.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 8th, 2017 @ 2:31pm CST
Emerje wrote:gothsaurus wrote:I thought his chest was retooled as well? If that's the only difference, will make for an easy G2 Hot Spot with a head swap. Anyone seen pictures of Inferno anywhere?
We really don't know. The only two pics we've seen are from around the time of the leak so it's hard to say if what we've seen is the final product or a mock up since it's likely the head sculpt already existed with the mold and it wouldn't have taken much to produce an unfinished Inferno to show off to buyers. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me to have a whole play feature that involves sticking an Enigma into the chest of combiners and then use a figure that doesn't have that feature as one of your few offerings. With the amount of retooling they put into the PM jets why wouldn't they try to improve Inferno, too? Really just a matter of altering the center of Defensor's chest, doesn't seem that complicated.
Emerje
I'm not sure we even saw any photos of the actual product or even a mockup. Rather, I though all we've seen so far were the box art and a portion of the instructions. What we do know is that they didn't retool the arms to be able to accept the combiner feet as bucklers, rather, they have you combine the feet with the regular Hot Spot guns to make bigger (and worse looking) guns. From the box art/instructions, the chest area of the combiner torso looked pretty much identical to Defensor.
As for modifying it to include the gimmick, that may actually be a bit difficult, depending on how deep it would need to sit. Remember that the area of the combiner torso where the matrix would go is formed from 2 different pars of Inferno, the ladder and the main body of the bot/fire truck. Not impossible, but not an easy change either.
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Posted by DeathReviews on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:04pm CST
Posted by DeathReviews on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:04pm CST
Alas - no voyagers yet...
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Posted by gothsaurus on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:09pm CST
Posted by gothsaurus on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:09pm CST
I'm guessing in this case, they will just expect kids to insert an enigma into the hands/feet... no retooling done to the mold. Just my gut feel.
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Posted by Plastic Hero on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:13pm CST
This looks SOOOOOOO much better! Thats's a BEAUTIFUL fan mode. May have to try it myself when I get these guys.
Posted by Plastic Hero on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:13pm CST
This looks SOOOOOOO much better! Thats's a BEAUTIFUL fan mode. May have to try it myself when I get these guys.
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Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:16pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:16pm CST
I'm okay with this turn of events. It means I can buy the Prime Masters, the Legends Class, and the Leader Class figures for Power of the Primes from Hasbro, for significantly less money, and significantly sooner than Takara's versions will be available. I'm still going to TRY to hold off on getting the Dinobots until we know what Takara plans to do with them and other upcoming proper combiner teams, thought it's gonna be REALLY tough be patient. I want me some cartoon accurate blue eyes for the Dinobots and red helmets for Slag and Swoop, though! Please make it happen, TakaraQ!
All in all, Hasbro has done a very good job so far with the Power of the Primes in terms of design, sculpting, and deco choices. There's not much to improve on Takara's end, except for the damned stickers on the Voyager and Leader figures. We don't have a situation like with Titans Return where Takara needed to change almost all of the face sculpts because of art style and animation differences between The Transformers season 4 and the separate Headmasters anime. It makes sense for Takara to turn some of the PotP stuff into an "overseas" import line, especially if they can't cram the characters and gimmicks into their already unbelievably bloated G1 timeline and extended narrative. I suspect the majority of Deluxe class and Voyager class stuff will be in a revived Unite Warriors line, with deco changes.
All in all, Hasbro has done a very good job so far with the Power of the Primes in terms of design, sculpting, and deco choices. There's not much to improve on Takara's end, except for the damned stickers on the Voyager and Leader figures. We don't have a situation like with Titans Return where Takara needed to change almost all of the face sculpts because of art style and animation differences between The Transformers season 4 and the separate Headmasters anime. It makes sense for Takara to turn some of the PotP stuff into an "overseas" import line, especially if they can't cram the characters and gimmicks into their already unbelievably bloated G1 timeline and extended narrative. I suspect the majority of Deluxe class and Voyager class stuff will be in a revived Unite Warriors line, with deco changes.
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Posted by Tranzilla on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:43pm CST
If you go to brickseek.com and search the Walmart stock as "Transformers PW" instead of the individuals, you get headings for Legends, Deluxes, Voyager, and Leader. My store shows 24 of the Legends. If I try the individuals as Slash, etc., I get nada.
Posted by Tranzilla on December 8th, 2017 @ 3:43pm CST
Bronzewolf wrote:The newest Transformers you'll be, Power of the Primes has been slowly trickling it's way into mass retail stores. For quite a while now, the figures had only been seen at Target, but now we have proof that they're making their way to other big box stores! Our very own ScottyP sent a brand new sighting our direction, not of a figure, but of a new store display!
The display comes from a Wal-Mart in North Carolina, and features various stocking stuffer toys. Among them Lego Polybags, Nerf Darts, and POTP Legend Class Figures! With a price tag of $9.94, this is one of the first times these figures have been spotted at a non-Target store, and certainly the first time we've seen this display! This will hopefully make it easier for collectors and fans to fond the highly coveted figures! Check out the provided image of the display below!
If you go to brickseek.com and search the Walmart stock as "Transformers PW" instead of the individuals, you get headings for Legends, Deluxes, Voyager, and Leader. My store shows 24 of the Legends. If I try the individuals as Slash, etc., I get nada.
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Posted by wolverinetodd on December 8th, 2017 @ 4:44pm CST
Posted by wolverinetodd on December 8th, 2017 @ 4:44pm CST
Dang! I was just at my local Wal-Mart this morning, but I didn't see anything like this in the main aisle of the toy section. I'm betting that since it's stocking stuffers, these will be in the Garden Center department along with all the Christmas decorations. That's where I found Hunt for the Decepticons figures years ago... no where near their toy department.
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Posted by OptimusPrimeval on December 8th, 2017 @ 5:29pm CST
What an unattractive display. Why does it look like a bargain bin?
Posted by OptimusPrimeval on December 8th, 2017 @ 5:29pm CST
Bronzewolf wrote:...Check out the provided image of the display below!
What an unattractive display. Why does it look like a bargain bin?
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Posted by Deadput on December 8th, 2017 @ 5:32pm CST
Takara breaks the mold for what might only be just this line and suddenly it's the end of The Transformers!
Despite popular belief the Hasbro versions are usually not under painted anymore with a few exceptions like Blur for example I don't think anyone can say that Hasbro Galvatron or Chromedome were underpainted.
Like a few others have said what is there to changed for POTP? Just a few minor details like Prime's hands (Which honestly is not a big deal at all, if you hate them so much just unscrew the hands off and put them in a bucket of blue paint and let them dry)
Posted by Deadput on December 8th, 2017 @ 5:32pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:So lemme get this straight! they're going all LG-43 with this?
well that's messed up!
I take it the days of Takara repaints are truly over
Takara breaks the mold for what might only be just this line and suddenly it's the end of The Transformers!
Despite popular belief the Hasbro versions are usually not under painted anymore with a few exceptions like Blur for example I don't think anyone can say that Hasbro Galvatron or Chromedome were underpainted.
Like a few others have said what is there to changed for POTP? Just a few minor details like Prime's hands (Which honestly is not a big deal at all, if you hate them so much just unscrew the hands off and put them in a bucket of blue paint and let them dry)
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Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 5:37pm CST
Our first look at the figure was the blurry mass leak from a while back. That one was probably photoshopped like some of the other in the leak. It had a red a mostly red chest and white squares on the shoulders. This is our second look from October 16:
The picture was probably taken much earlier leaving plenty of room for changes on the final figure. How many times have we seen figures on the packaging that were absolutely nothing like the figure in the box? Remember this? The figure on the bottom is the one that came in the package rather than the one on the comic cover.
The spot in the center of his chest sticks out enough already that an Enigma or whatever could be plugged in there if it were modified right.
Of course I'm just speculating on possibilities, we'll likely have our answers by February at Toy Fair.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 5:37pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm not sure we even saw any photos of the actual product or even a mockup.
Our first look at the figure was the blurry mass leak from a while back. That one was probably photoshopped like some of the other in the leak. It had a red a mostly red chest and white squares on the shoulders. This is our second look from October 16:
The picture was probably taken much earlier leaving plenty of room for changes on the final figure. How many times have we seen figures on the packaging that were absolutely nothing like the figure in the box? Remember this? The figure on the bottom is the one that came in the package rather than the one on the comic cover.
As for modifying it to include the gimmick, that may actually be a bit difficult, depending on how deep it would need to sit. Remember that the area of the combiner torso where the matrix would go is formed from 2 different pars of Inferno, the ladder and the main body of the bot/fire truck. Not impossible, but not an easy change either.
The spot in the center of his chest sticks out enough already that an Enigma or whatever could be plugged in there if it were modified right.
Of course I'm just speculating on possibilities, we'll likely have our answers by February at Toy Fair.
Emerje
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Posted by Flashwave on December 8th, 2017 @ 6:01pm CST
Tomae you think it might be a bargin bn.
DIsplays like this look like crap, but they are designed to make you look at them and dig through them. By digging, you are investing into something and are more likely to come out with something rather than just looking at a peg and walking by.
Posted by Flashwave on December 8th, 2017 @ 6:01pm CST
OptimusPrimeval wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:...Check out the provided image of the display below!
What an unattractive display. Why does it look like a bargain bin?
Tomae you think it might be a bargin bn.
DIsplays like this look like crap, but they are designed to make you look at them and dig through them. By digging, you are investing into something and are more likely to come out with something rather than just looking at a peg and walking by.
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Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 6:33pm CST
Posted by Emerje on December 8th, 2017 @ 6:33pm CST
This isn't even the first time they've had those bins, they've become an annual thing for Walmart. I think last year they filled them with Legends or Titan Masters, 2015 was RID One-Step Changers, and 2014 was AOE One-Step Changers. Before that I don't remember, maybe nothing.
Emerje
Emerje
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Posted by bodrock on December 8th, 2017 @ 6:43pm CST
Posted by bodrock on December 8th, 2017 @ 6:43pm CST
Stopped by Walmart on the way home -- mine got in more TR revision waves, only. :/
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Posted by fenrir72 on December 8th, 2017 @ 8:27pm CST
You've a got a good head on your shoulders. When a company "might be" overextended. This means?????????????
Posted by fenrir72 on December 8th, 2017 @ 8:27pm CST
steals_your_goats wrote:People are acting like this is the end of the world. The figures we got are not bad by any stretch of the imagination and there's honestly not much Takara could've changed. Stickers sure, blue fists for prime and black for jazz and windcharger's forehead but that's pretty much it. Was there this much outcry when Takara revealed their entire last knight line to be the same as Hasbros?
And I highly doubt Hasbro has any say over what Takara does. They are partners one doesn't own the other. I think the logical answer is Takara is over extended and saw this as a way to go "easy" for once. Between Masterpiece, Legends, POTP, TLK, the upcoming movie series and MTB they have a lot of stuff out or coming out. They probably just needed a financial breather.
You've a got a good head on your shoulders. When a company "might be" overextended. This means?????????????
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 8th, 2017 @ 9:52pm CST
NOT true. That was merely market speculation, but nothing concrete about it was announced at all. It was Mattel that fell through, and Hasbro tried to acquire Lionsgate while we're at it.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 8th, 2017 @ 9:52pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Hasbro did try to purchase TT recently, but that fell through.
NOT true. That was merely market speculation, but nothing concrete about it was announced at all. It was Mattel that fell through, and Hasbro tried to acquire Lionsgate while we're at it.
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Posted by shajaki on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:06pm CST
Posted by shajaki on December 8th, 2017 @ 11:06pm CST
Those who are upset, I don't think are overreacting. No one has been acting out of turn, so the accusations are pretty empty. It's JUST a differing opinion.
And y'know, its completely legitimate. Ive been a long supporter of TakaraTomy, and they've set a certain standard. But right now, they're going far below said standard.
Im hearing lots of "what could they have even done different?" when that's not the point. It's always been standard practice for them to be different even if said differences are slight. Sometimes its just a different shade of plastic, or an added paint app here or there. So the fact that we're getting the next 2-3 years of Transformers with no optional differences is extremely disappointing. Which is my opinion, and not a "crazy" one if you ask me.
And y'know, its completely legitimate. Ive been a long supporter of TakaraTomy, and they've set a certain standard. But right now, they're going far below said standard.
Im hearing lots of "what could they have even done different?" when that's not the point. It's always been standard practice for them to be different even if said differences are slight. Sometimes its just a different shade of plastic, or an added paint app here or there. So the fact that we're getting the next 2-3 years of Transformers with no optional differences is extremely disappointing. Which is my opinion, and not a "crazy" one if you ask me.
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Posted by william-james88 on December 9th, 2017 @ 12:05am CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 9th, 2017 @ 12:05am CST
While this whole deal of course dispels any notion that the "higher price" was due to paint apps, doesn't this also prove that Takara does not consider the market outside japan as significant? Or more simply said, that they only look at the Japanese market?
I have often thought this but this is the best evidence I have so far.
As to why we are having this reaction now instead of when the same thing happened with movie toys, its pretty simple: Since 2007, Takara has not cared much about providing different paint apps than the Hasbro releases for those. Many movie toys from 2007 were just Hasbro toys with a stick on the packaging, which is what we got in TLK. Plus, the films are really just a western product while the original toys and a lot of the G1 fiction has roots in Japan.
Basically, there is more precedent for movie toys than for "Generations" toys.
I have often thought this but this is the best evidence I have so far.
As to why we are having this reaction now instead of when the same thing happened with movie toys, its pretty simple: Since 2007, Takara has not cared much about providing different paint apps than the Hasbro releases for those. Many movie toys from 2007 were just Hasbro toys with a stick on the packaging, which is what we got in TLK. Plus, the films are really just a western product while the original toys and a lot of the G1 fiction has roots in Japan.
Basically, there is more precedent for movie toys than for "Generations" toys.
