Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser
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In addition to the recent reveal of both Takara Tomy Unite Warriors Superion and the big box the line will feature, TFYuki has also teased another silhouette for an upcoming combiner: the 1984 Autobot combiner!
What has just appeared in the latest issue of IDW Publishing's Combiner Wars, and is currently known as Optimus Maximus in the Hasbro nomenclature, the new combiner will include the Optimus Prime mold, plus the four rumoured Autobot limbs of Prowl, Mirage, Sunstreaker and Ironhide - though not fully confirmed as such. Check out the teaser below!
What has just appeared in the latest issue of IDW Publishing's Combiner Wars, and is currently known as Optimus Maximus in the Hasbro nomenclature, the new combiner will include the Optimus Prime mold, plus the four rumoured Autobot limbs of Prowl, Mirage, Sunstreaker and Ironhide - though not fully confirmed as such. Check out the teaser below!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689748)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 6:28am CDT
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 6:28am CDT
For Superion, I pre-ordered the Takara version from the get-go, as soon as I knew it was going to contain Slingshot. Even after the reveal of the Hasbro release of him as well, I figured it would be easier just to stick with my plan.
For Defensor, I originally planned to be happy with Legends Groove (he was, at least, still a part of the team!) and had the Hasbro versions pre-ordered. But after the reveal of Deluxe Groove, I found my mind changing and canceled those pre-orders so that I could make a new pre-order for the Takara version. (After about a day or so of worrying if I'd be able to do so for a semi-reasonable price!)
For the 1984 Autobot combiner, however, I think I shall just stick with Hasbro. (Hopefully they do proper reveals of the limb-bots soon!) Helps that in this case I already own the chest component, as Optimus is the one Combiner Wars figure (not counting Legends Class figures) that I already have in-hand. And as a new combiner, I don't have to worry too much about, "The make up of the team isn't quite right!" or, "I wish the decos could be a little better!"
(And, just so he isn't left out... For Menasor, I never had any plans on the Combiner Wars version. Fansproject beat Hasbro to the punch there with me, and I figured that I'd be able to enjoy the molds in question via their inevitable repaints.)
For Defensor, I originally planned to be happy with Legends Groove (he was, at least, still a part of the team!) and had the Hasbro versions pre-ordered. But after the reveal of Deluxe Groove, I found my mind changing and canceled those pre-orders so that I could make a new pre-order for the Takara version. (After about a day or so of worrying if I'd be able to do so for a semi-reasonable price!)
For the 1984 Autobot combiner, however, I think I shall just stick with Hasbro. (Hopefully they do proper reveals of the limb-bots soon!) Helps that in this case I already own the chest component, as Optimus is the one Combiner Wars figure (not counting Legends Class figures) that I already have in-hand. And as a new combiner, I don't have to worry too much about, "The make up of the team isn't quite right!" or, "I wish the decos could be a little better!"
(And, just so he isn't left out... For Menasor, I never had any plans on the Combiner Wars version. Fansproject beat Hasbro to the punch there with me, and I figured that I'd be able to enjoy the molds in question via their inevitable repaints.)
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689751)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 24th, 2015 @ 6:36am CDT
What I'm able to discern, the limbs are these molds:
- Left Arm: Dead End/Streetwise
- Left Leg: Drag Strip
- Right Arm: Offroad
- Right Leg: Breakdown
How much you wanna bet this will be another limited release
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 24th, 2015 @ 6:36am CDT
Va'al wrote:
What I'm able to discern, the limbs are these molds:
- Left Arm: Dead End/Streetwise
- Left Leg: Drag Strip
- Right Arm: Offroad
- Right Leg: Breakdown
How much you wanna bet this will be another limited release
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689763)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 24th, 2015 @ 7:44am CDT
I think you meant Defensor. Defensor had black hands and feet modules.
Posted by fenrir72 on May 24th, 2015 @ 7:44am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:D'oh!Amelie wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Black hands/feet are what the original toys had.
NopeBrainfart.
Then I guess it was for color contrast.
I think you meant Defensor. Defensor had black hands and feet modules.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689764)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 7:49am CDT
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 7:49am CDT
I wonder what color hands and feet the 1984 Autobot combiner (either version, Hasbro's or Takara's) will have? There was that banner ad that featured artwork that will be presumably Hasbro's version, but I cannot recall off of the top of my head what color the hand in the image was...
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689771)
Posted by munkimus prime on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:32am CDT
I'm kind of hoping Hasbro's Autobot combiner comes with white hands and feet. That way I can give Superion the White ones and Optimus Maximus can have the black ones.
I must say that Superion has a very nice box. I'm not sure if it's enough reason for me to get it but it does look pretty.
Posted by munkimus prime on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:32am CDT
Yotsuyasan wrote:I wonder what color hands and feet the 1984 Autobot combiner (either version, Hasbro's or Takara's) will have? There was that banner ad that featured artwork that will be presumably Hasbro's version, but I cannot recall off of the top of my head what color the hand in the image was...
I'm kind of hoping Hasbro's Autobot combiner comes with white hands and feet. That way I can give Superion the White ones and Optimus Maximus can have the black ones.
I must say that Superion has a very nice box. I'm not sure if it's enough reason for me to get it but it does look pretty.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689773)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:54am CDT
Well, I ain't buying it for the box myself, but a pretty box (as long as it doesn't inflate the price) never hurt anything.
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:54am CDT
munkimus prime wrote:I must say that Superion has a very nice box. I'm not sure if it's enough reason for me to get it but it does look pretty.
Well, I ain't buying it for the box myself, but a pretty box (as long as it doesn't inflate the price) never hurt anything.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689781)
Posted by Munkky on May 24th, 2015 @ 9:46am CDT
Posted by Munkky on May 24th, 2015 @ 9:46am CDT
I can't wait for the 1984 Autobot Combiner. I've been combining my Voyager Optimus with the Deluxe Stunticons to get a rough idea of what it (and Menasor because I don't have Motormaster yet) will look like, and I think they're going to be excellent repaints.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689782)
Posted by Diem on May 24th, 2015 @ 9:56am CDT
Notice I used "we" there, I'm including myself among the morons here.
Posted by Diem on May 24th, 2015 @ 9:56am CDT
megatronus wrote:Diem wrote:They should know that there's a few thousand morons who are willing to pay more to "complete" a figure than we did for the actual figure itself.
It might be wise to avoid calling a large segment of the fandom morons.
Notice I used "we" there, I'm including myself among the morons here.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689786)
Posted by Powered Convoy on May 24th, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT
Silver for the Hasbro one, and I imagine Takara will follow suit so Sunstreaker's engine is silver.
Randy
Posted by Powered Convoy on May 24th, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT
munkimus prime wrote:Yotsuyasan wrote:I wonder what color hands and feet the 1984 Autobot combiner (either version, Hasbro's or Takara's) will have? There was that banner ad that featured artwork that will be presumably Hasbro's version, but I cannot recall off of the top of my head what color the hand in the image was...
I'm kind of hoping Hasbro's Autobot combiner comes with white hands and feet. That way I can give Superion the White ones and Optimus Maximus can have the black ones.
I must say that Superion has a very nice box. I'm not sure if it's enough reason for me to get it but it does look pretty.
Silver for the Hasbro one, and I imagine Takara will follow suit so Sunstreaker's engine is silver.
Randy
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689848)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:16pm CDT
uh what are you taking about! i have an original superion i am looking at it right now and they are white!
here is a picture
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:16pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Black hands/feet are what the original toys had.Ultra Markus wrote:the one thing that hasbro should have done and i'm still wondering why, is the white hands and feet
why hasbro why?
And provide more color contrast that keeps the overall figure from being too overwhelmingly white.
I do like the white hands/feet, though.
uh what are you taking about! i have an original superion i am looking at it right now and they are white!
here is a picture
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689850)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:20pm CDT
actually G1 superion has white G1 defensor has black G1 bruticus has silver both hasbro and takara are the same!
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:20pm CDT
Powered Convoy wrote:munkimus prime wrote:Yotsuyasan wrote:I wonder what color hands and feet the 1984 Autobot combiner (either version, Hasbro's or Takara's) will have? There was that banner ad that featured artwork that will be presumably Hasbro's version, but I cannot recall off of the top of my head what color the hand in the image was...
I'm kind of hoping Hasbro's Autobot combiner comes with white hands and feet. That way I can give Superion the White ones and Optimus Maximus can have the black ones.
I must say that Superion has a very nice box. I'm not sure if it's enough reason for me to get it but it does look pretty.
Silver for the Hasbro one, and I imagine Takara will follow suit so Sunstreaker's engine is silver.
Randy
actually G1 superion has white G1 defensor has black G1 bruticus has silver both hasbro and takara are the same!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689853)
Posted by Rated X on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:32pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:32pm CDT
A combiner based on lazy repaints that never actually existed in any fiction. For those of you who want to re-enact the G1 episode "Masquerade" that badly, just buy two Menasors.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689855)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:37pm CDT
What if they just like combiners, period? I know I do
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:37pm CDT
Rated X wrote:A combiner based on lazy repaints that never actually existed in any fiction. For those of you who want to re-enact the G1 episode "Masquerade" that badly, just buy two Menasors.
What if they just like combiners, period? I know I do
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689860)
Posted by steals_your_goats on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:44pm CDT
Don't like them, then don't buy them. No one is forcing you to get them so stop trying to ruin it for everyone else. I get that it's your thing to just hate everything new but if you got off your high horse for one second you might find that these things you constantly make fun of aren't really that bad.
Posted by steals_your_goats on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:44pm CDT
Rated X wrote:A combiner based on lazy repaints that never actually existed in any fiction. For those of you who want to re-enact the G1 episode "Masquerade" that badly, just buy two Menasors.
Don't like them, then don't buy them. No one is forcing you to get them so stop trying to ruin it for everyone else. I get that it's your thing to just hate everything new but if you got off your high horse for one second you might find that these things you constantly make fun of aren't really that bad.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689863)
Posted by Madeus Prime on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:49pm CDT
It's just for fun dude, I'm probably going to pick the limbs up stateside because I want a new Prowl, Ironhide, and Mirage (not all that fond of the Breakdown mold, skipping Sunstreaker).
BTW, wasn't there some product listings that indicated we're getting a new Wheeljack soon?
Posted by Madeus Prime on May 24th, 2015 @ 1:49pm CDT
Rated X wrote:A combiner based on lazy repaints that never actually existed in any fiction. For those of you who want to re-enact the G1 episode "Masquerade" that badly, just buy two Menasors.
It's just for fun dude, I'm probably going to pick the limbs up stateside because I want a new Prowl, Ironhide, and Mirage (not all that fond of the Breakdown mold, skipping Sunstreaker).
BTW, wasn't there some product listings that indicated we're getting a new Wheeljack soon?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689888)
Posted by Deadput on May 24th, 2015 @ 3:02pm CDT
Edit: Making my post less hostile.
A homage is a homage no matter how you look into it.
I don't think you know the definition of lazy enough to be able to call these repaints lazy.
Posted by Deadput on May 24th, 2015 @ 3:02pm CDT
Rated X wrote:A combiner based on lazy repaints that never actually existed in any fiction. For those of you who want to re-enact the G1 episode "Masquerade" that badly, just buy two Menasors.
Edit: Making my post less hostile.
A homage is a homage no matter how you look into it.
I don't think you know the definition of lazy enough to be able to call these repaints lazy.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689889)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 24th, 2015 @ 3:05pm CDT
Yes. X is our resident FUNposter.
Posted by Evil Eye on May 24th, 2015 @ 3:05pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Rated X wrote:A combiner based on lazy repaints that never actually existed in any fiction. For those of you who want to re-enact the G1 episode "Masquerade" that badly, just buy two Menasors.
Is making useless posts your specialty?
Yes. X is our resident FUNposter.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1689904)
Posted by Flashwave on May 24th, 2015 @ 3:46pm CDT
For a num,ber of us, I suspect the Combiner aspect is second to having new versions of the characters. I've played around with Trqansforming Optimus, even toyed with head-canon ideas of the Matrix manifesting itself through his combined form, but I have nev er actually combined Prime and doubt I ever will, I just like his figure. (It's grown on me, and I think looks good next to Cloud Roadbuster/Crosshairs, IDW Bee, Gen Drift, Uni Hound, and AOE Rollbar.) If I do get any of them, Ironhide will be the first and he's immediately getting Prime Kup's cannons. But I'll have to wait for In Stores to make that call,
And actually, with Rook already being in the right colors, I plan on nabbing the Mirage fig to be Rescue Force 2, and using the fact that the reart spoiler can tilt to help represent the water cannons.
Posted by Flashwave on May 24th, 2015 @ 3:46pm CDT
Rated X wrote:A combiner based on lazy repaints that never actually existed in any fiction. For those of you who want to re-enact the G1 episode "Masquerade" that badly, just buy two Menasors.
For a num,ber of us, I suspect the Combiner aspect is second to having new versions of the characters. I've played around with Trqansforming Optimus, even toyed with head-canon ideas of the Matrix manifesting itself through his combined form, but I have nev er actually combined Prime and doubt I ever will, I just like his figure. (It's grown on me, and I think looks good next to Cloud Roadbuster/Crosshairs, IDW Bee, Gen Drift, Uni Hound, and AOE Rollbar.) If I do get any of them, Ironhide will be the first and he's immediately getting Prime Kup's cannons. But I'll have to wait for In Stores to make that call,
And actually, with Rook already being in the right colors, I plan on nabbing the Mirage fig to be Rescue Force 2, and using the fact that the reart spoiler can tilt to help represent the water cannons.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690000)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 7:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 7:23pm CDT
The Hasbro ones look to be gray in this pic:munkimus prime wrote:Yotsuyasan wrote:I wonder what color hands and feet the 1984 Autobot combiner (either version, Hasbro's or Takara's) will have? There was that banner ad that featured artwork that will be presumably Hasbro's version, but I cannot recall off of the top of my head what color the hand in the image was...
I'm kind of hoping Hasbro's Autobot combiner comes with white hands and feet. That way I can give Superion the White ones and Optimus Maximus can have the black ones.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690018)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:10pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:10pm CDT
I just had an epiphany about the 1984 Autobot combiner.
Notice that the limb arrangement on the Takara version is not only a reverse of Hasbro's, but also has the four limbs specifically in the following placements:
Right arm: Ironhide
Left arm: Prowl
Right leg: Sunstreaker
Left leg: Ligier/Mirage
Know who else has a similar limb arrangement, color-wise? This guy:
This now has me VERY curious about the kind of deco the Optimus torso figure might have.
Notice that the limb arrangement on the Takara version is not only a reverse of Hasbro's, but also has the four limbs specifically in the following placements:
Right arm: Ironhide
Left arm: Prowl
Right leg: Sunstreaker
Left leg: Ligier/Mirage
Know who else has a similar limb arrangement, color-wise? This guy:
This now has me VERY curious about the kind of deco the Optimus torso figure might have.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690026)
Posted by Diem on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:19pm CDT
Hey, once the Technobots come out we'll be able to make 3/5 of this guy!
And now I'm really hungry for the idea of a non-brick Energon Wing Saber who can split into four and combine onto Combiner Wars sockets.
Posted by Diem on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:19pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I just had an epiphany about the 1984 Autobot combiner.
Notice that the limb arrangement on the Takare version is not only a reverse of Hasbro's, but also has the four limbs specifically in the following placements:
Right arm: Ironhide
Left arm: Prowl
Right leg: Sunstreaker
Left leg: Ligier/Mirage
Know who else has a similar limb arrangement, color-wise? This guy:
(a big hand for Energon Prime!!! Woo woo woo!)
This now has me VERY curious about the kind of deco the Optimus torso figure might have.
Hey, once the Technobots come out we'll be able to make 3/5 of this guy!
And now I'm really hungry for the idea of a non-brick Energon Wing Saber who can split into four and combine onto Combiner Wars sockets.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690028)
Posted by shajaki on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:21pm CDT
If that's what this means, I will be SO happy.
That's actually what I thought this teaser meant initially, but then everyone was saying 1984 Autobot Combiner. So I was confused.... why has it gotten that label anyways?
Posted by shajaki on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:21pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I just had an epiphany about the 1984 Autobot combiner.
Notice that the limb arrangement on the Takare version is not only a reverse of Hasbro's, but also has the four limbs specifically in the following placements:
Right arm: Ironhide
Left arm: Prowl
Right leg: Sunstreaker
Left leg: Ligier/Mirage
Know who else has a similar limb arrangement, color-wise? This guy:
This now has me VERY curious about the kind of deco the Optimus torso figure might have.
If that's what this means, I will be SO happy.
That's actually what I thought this teaser meant initially, but then everyone was saying 1984 Autobot Combiner. So I was confused.... why has it gotten that label anyways?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690029)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:22pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:22pm CDT
The components are all Autobots from 1984: Optimus, Ironhide, Mirage, Sunstreaker, and Prowl.shajaki wrote:That's actually what I thought this teaser meant initially, but then everyone was saying 1984 Autobot Combiner. So I was confused.... why has it gotten that label anyways?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690031)
Posted by shajaki on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:26pm CDT
What I mean is if Prime is sculpted to homage Energon/Superlink, and TT lays out his limbs to homage it too... why label it as 1984 Autobot Combiner. I dunno. It's kinda misleading.
Posted by shajaki on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:26pm CDT
Yes.... I'm aware...Sabrblade wrote:The components are all Autobots from 1984: Optimus, Ironhide, Mirage, Sunstreaker, and Prowl.shajaki wrote:That's actually what I thought this teaser meant initially, but then everyone was saying 1984 Autobot Combiner. So I was confused.... why has it gotten that label anyways?
What I mean is if Prime is sculpted to homage Energon/Superlink, and TT lays out his limbs to homage it too... why label it as 1984 Autobot Combiner. I dunno. It's kinda misleading.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690037)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:34pm CDT
And while the limbs are arranged in a manner that homages the colors of Energon Prime's super mode configuration, the limbs themselves aren't a homage to Energon Prime's limbs, since Ironhide is an updated Ironhide and not a fire truck, Prowl is an updated Prowl and not helicopter, Sunstreaker is an updated Sunstreaker and not a drill, and Mirage is an updated Mirage and not a submarine.
So the Energon homage is only a subtle one made by individuals who are your typical CHUG-style G1 character updates.
Plus, seeing as how this combiner was probably Hasbro's idea first, Hasbro's arranged the limbs in a manner that doesn't homage Energon Prime, and uses the white Optimus Maximus with the Legneds Rodimus as the torso instead of the normal Optimus Prime.
And the concept of it being an "Autobot Cars combiner" hearkens back to the G1 episode "Masquerade", but admittedly only in concept, as only Optimus and Mirage were part of that and it was handled differently than it is here.
Hope that clears things.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:34pm CDT
Well, Optimus isn't 100% sculpted to be an Energon homage. Only the inside of his combiner torso and his combiner head are. The outer doors of his combiner torso are a God Ginrai homage, and the rest of him in both vehicle and standard robot mode are pretty much your typical "updated G1" look.shajaki wrote:Yes.... I'm aware...Sabrblade wrote:The components are all Autobots from 1984: Optimus, Ironhide, Mirage, Sunstreaker, and Prowl.shajaki wrote:That's actually what I thought this teaser meant initially, but then everyone was saying 1984 Autobot Combiner. So I was confused.... why has it gotten that label anyways?
What I mean is if Prime is sculpted to homage Energon/Superlink, and TT lays out his limbs to homage it too... why label it as 1984 Autobot Combiner. I dunno. It's kinda misleading.
And while the limbs are arranged in a manner that homages the colors of Energon Prime's super mode configuration, the limbs themselves aren't a homage to Energon Prime's limbs, since Ironhide is an updated Ironhide and not a fire truck, Prowl is an updated Prowl and not helicopter, Sunstreaker is an updated Sunstreaker and not a drill, and Mirage is an updated Mirage and not a submarine.
So the Energon homage is only a subtle one made by individuals who are your typical CHUG-style G1 character updates.
Plus, seeing as how this combiner was probably Hasbro's idea first, Hasbro's arranged the limbs in a manner that doesn't homage Energon Prime, and uses the white Optimus Maximus with the Legneds Rodimus as the torso instead of the normal Optimus Prime.
And the concept of it being an "Autobot Cars combiner" hearkens back to the G1 episode "Masquerade", but admittedly only in concept, as only Optimus and Mirage were part of that and it was handled differently than it is here.
Hope that clears things.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690048)
Posted by shajaki on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:51pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:51pm CDT
That wasn't really necessary. I'm not confused, I just see things differently than you. All those points have been discussed to death already, aaaand I've been here the whole time.Sabrblade wrote:Hope that clears things.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690058)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:55pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 8:55pm CDT
shajaki wrote:That wasn't really necessary. I'm not confused, I just see things differently than you. All those points have been discussed to death already, aaaand I've been here the whole time.Sabrblade wrote:Hope that clears things.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690105)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 9:53pm CDT
Well, I suppose we could just avoid all confusion and call him by his official name, yes? Which, until we learn if Takara has a different name for him, would be Optimus Maximus if my memory is correct, yes?
Although I suppose the "1984 Autobot combiner" moniker may have come about since, technically, any gestalt formed using Optimus Prime as the central component would be Optimus Maximus. Thus the "1984 Autobot combiner" moniker, to designate that Optimus is using those four specific other 1984 Autobots as the limbs.
This would be my take on things, at least.
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 9:53pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Sabrblade wrote:shajaki wrote:Yes.... I'm aware...Sabrblade wrote:The components are all Autobots from 1984: Optimus, Ironhide, Mirage, Sunstreaker, and Prowl.shajaki wrote:That's actually what I thought this teaser meant initially, but then everyone was saying 1984 Autobot Combiner. So I was confused.... why has it gotten that label anyways?
What I mean is if Prime is sculpted to homage Energon/Superlink, and TT lays out his limbs to homage it too... why label it as 1984 Autobot Combiner. I dunno. It's kinda misleading.
(Explain... Explain... Explain...)
Hope that clears things.
That wasn't really necessary. I'm not confused, I just see things differently than you.
Well, I suppose we could just avoid all confusion and call him by his official name, yes? Which, until we learn if Takara has a different name for him, would be Optimus Maximus if my memory is correct, yes?
Although I suppose the "1984 Autobot combiner" moniker may have come about since, technically, any gestalt formed using Optimus Prime as the central component would be Optimus Maximus. Thus the "1984 Autobot combiner" moniker, to designate that Optimus is using those four specific other 1984 Autobots as the limbs.
This would be my take on things, at least.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690113)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 10:07pm CDT
Optimus Maximus is the white redeco of Optimus Prime that Hasbro is releasing.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 24th, 2015 @ 10:07pm CDT
Ultra Prime, you mean.Yotsuyasan wrote:any gestalt formed using Optimus Prime as the central component would be Optimus Maximus.
Optimus Maximus is the white redeco of Optimus Prime that Hasbro is releasing.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690115)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 10:17pm CDT
Ah, yes. That is what I get for operating from memory on a figure that is not a pre-existing concept. Well, swap in the correct name, and my point still stands.
Don't see the point in that white redeco myself, especially since they aren't passing it off as a Magnus, having done a proper one for once. But whatever, I am sure there are those that will enjoy it.
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 24th, 2015 @ 10:17pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Ultra Prime, you mean.Yotsuyasan wrote:any gestalt formed using Optimus Prime as the central component would be Optimus Maximus.
Optimus Maximus is the white redeco of Optimus Prime that Hasbro is releasing.
Ah, yes. That is what I get for operating from memory on a figure that is not a pre-existing concept. Well, swap in the correct name, and my point still stands.
Don't see the point in that white redeco myself, especially since they aren't passing it off as a Magnus, having done a proper one for once. But whatever, I am sure there are those that will enjoy it.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690158)
Posted by megatronus on May 25th, 2015 @ 1:04am CDT
That's basically my thinking on the matter.
Posted by megatronus on May 25th, 2015 @ 1:04am CDT
shajaki wrote:That wasn't really necessary. I'm not confused, I just see things differently than you. All those points have been discussed to death already, aaaand I've been here the whole time.Sabrblade wrote:Hope that clears things.
That's basically my thinking on the matter.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690225)
Posted by Powered Convoy on May 25th, 2015 @ 8:48am CDT
Posted by Powered Convoy on May 25th, 2015 @ 8:48am CDT
Ordering for Unite Warriors Defensor is open with TakaraTomy Mall. Ordered mine.
Randy
Randy
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690244)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 25th, 2015 @ 10:05am CDT
How did you do so? Do you have a Japanese address? (Or a friend with one?) I, for one, could not figure out how to even register with their website without one.
And out of curiosity, how much is the shipping going to cost you?
Frankly, though, given that BBTS and TFSource only seem to have about a $25.00 mark-up on this, and given that with TFSource at least (I don't know about BBTS here, been ages since I ordered with them) you can get free shipping on this to U.S. addresses even if you are ordering it alone (as it is enough by itself to hit the $150 threshold for free shipping) I feel fine with having not been able to register at the Takara Tomy Mall. I don't think it would have made much of a difference in cost, if any.
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 25th, 2015 @ 10:05am CDT
Powered Convoy wrote:Ordering for Unite Warriors Defensor is open with TakaraTomy Mall. Ordered mine.
Randy
How did you do so? Do you have a Japanese address? (Or a friend with one?) I, for one, could not figure out how to even register with their website without one.
And out of curiosity, how much is the shipping going to cost you?
Frankly, though, given that BBTS and TFSource only seem to have about a $25.00 mark-up on this, and given that with TFSource at least (I don't know about BBTS here, been ages since I ordered with them) you can get free shipping on this to U.S. addresses even if you are ordering it alone (as it is enough by itself to hit the $150 threshold for free shipping) I feel fine with having not been able to register at the Takara Tomy Mall. I don't think it would have made much of a difference in cost, if any.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690275)
Posted by Agamemnon on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:00pm CDT
BBTS doesn't offer free shipping, but with the POL feature, each additional item to the POL only adds a few cents to the shipping (based on weight, I think.) My last $500 order, which was a boat load of items at 12.4 lbs, was only $16 shipping cost. *shrug* I'll pay that shipping cost to have the choice of when my POL ships. Correct me if I'm wrong, but TFSource's stack feature needs to have all items arrive before it ships.
Defensor is $25 more than the other sets. But, if this is the only way to get deluxe Groove, then I'm in. (And since I was able to obtain Quickslinger and Brake-neck, I canceled my preorder for the other sets. Sorry, Takara, but I need monies for Trypticon and Devestator...)
Posted by Agamemnon on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:00pm CDT
Yotsuyasan wrote:Powered Convoy wrote:Ordering for Unite Warriors Defensor is open with TakaraTomy Mall. Ordered mine.
Randy
How did you do so? Do you have a Japanese address? (Or a friend with one?) I, for one, could not figure out how to even register with their website without one.
And out of curiosity, how much is the shipping going to cost you?
Frankly, though, given that BBTS and TFSource only seem to have about a $25.00 mark-up on this, and given that with TFSource at least (I don't know about BBTS here, been ages since I ordered with them) you can get free shipping on this to U.S. addresses even if you are ordering it alone (as it is enough by itself to hit the $150 threshold for free shipping) I feel fine with having not been able to register at the Takara Tomy Mall. I don't think it would have made much of a difference in cost, if any.
BBTS doesn't offer free shipping, but with the POL feature, each additional item to the POL only adds a few cents to the shipping (based on weight, I think.) My last $500 order, which was a boat load of items at 12.4 lbs, was only $16 shipping cost. *shrug* I'll pay that shipping cost to have the choice of when my POL ships. Correct me if I'm wrong, but TFSource's stack feature needs to have all items arrive before it ships.
Defensor is $25 more than the other sets. But, if this is the only way to get deluxe Groove, then I'm in. (And since I was able to obtain Quickslinger and Brake-neck, I canceled my preorder for the other sets. Sorry, Takara, but I need monies for Trypticon and Devestator...)
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690293)
Posted by megatronus on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:33pm CDT
Let's look at Superion - HLJ (one of the more expensive import sites) has him for 11200 Yen, approx. $92. BBTS has Superion listed for $135. Assuming for a moment you're buying a few things from HLJ and ship them together via their Private Warehouse, you're looking at maybe $10 of shipping cost per item. The Superion 5-figure box set will be a bit heavier than the average item, and bulkier, so let's assume BBTS will hit with $2 of shipping for that.
So that's $102 vs. $137, a $35 difference. That's definitely significant enough for me to import. I hope Defensor finds its way to HLJ, because I expect the cost differential/savings to be much greater.
I'm confused by this; I'm not sure what difference you're trying to delineate here. BBTS will only allow you to ship in-stock items - same with TFsource.
Posted by megatronus on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:33pm CDT
Yotsuyasan wrote:Frankly, though, given that BBTS and TFSource only seem to have about a $25.00 mark-up on this, and given that with TFSource at least (I don't know about BBTS here, been ages since I ordered with them) you can get free shipping on this to U.S. addresses even if you are ordering it alone (as it is enough by itself to hit the $150 threshold for free shipping) I feel fine with having not been able to register at the Takara Tomy Mall. I don't think it would have made much of a difference in cost, if any.
Let's look at Superion - HLJ (one of the more expensive import sites) has him for 11200 Yen, approx. $92. BBTS has Superion listed for $135. Assuming for a moment you're buying a few things from HLJ and ship them together via their Private Warehouse, you're looking at maybe $10 of shipping cost per item. The Superion 5-figure box set will be a bit heavier than the average item, and bulkier, so let's assume BBTS will hit with $2 of shipping for that.
So that's $102 vs. $137, a $35 difference. That's definitely significant enough for me to import. I hope Defensor finds its way to HLJ, because I expect the cost differential/savings to be much greater.
Agamemnon wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but TFSource's stack feature needs to have all items arrive before it ships.
I'm confused by this; I'm not sure what difference you're trying to delineate here. BBTS will only allow you to ship in-stock items - same with TFsource.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690298)
Posted by Agamemnon on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:46pm CDT
Right. But, with TFSource's Stack feature, all pre-ordered items have to come in before the stack ships, correct? With BBTS, I can ship my POL at any time, without the need to wait for any pre-order items to come into stock.
Basically, if I take the recent Combiner Wars orders as an example, with all items either added to Stack or POL:
Legends Wave with Groove, Viper, and Warpath arrives
Deluxe Protectobots arrives at same time
Voyager Hotspot and Cyclonus arrive 2 weeks later.
Under TF Source, I have to wait for Hotspot and Cyclonus before the stack ships. With BBTS, I can choose to ship my POL with just the Legends and Deluxe figures, and ship a future POL with the Voyagers.
I know I have the BBTS POL correct. Is this how TFSource's Stack feature works? If this is all true, then I would rather pay the shipping and have the choice when my POL ships than have to wait on an item before my Stack ships. This is especially true for Takara's Defensor (Guardian?) as it is not expected to come in until late in the year. I'd have to guess which other items I want to Pre-order with the set in order to maximize shipping. This isn't an issue with this set due to the cost. But, for other orders that are significantly less than the shipping minimum, well, I'm okay with paying the shipping to have the freedom to determine when to ship.
Does that make sense, or am I talking in circles again.
Posted by Agamemnon on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:46pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but TFSource's stack feature needs to have all items arrive before it ships.
I'm confused by this; I'm not sure what difference you're trying to delineate here. BBTS will only allow you to ship in-stock items - same with TFsource.
Right. But, with TFSource's Stack feature, all pre-ordered items have to come in before the stack ships, correct? With BBTS, I can ship my POL at any time, without the need to wait for any pre-order items to come into stock.
Basically, if I take the recent Combiner Wars orders as an example, with all items either added to Stack or POL:
Legends Wave with Groove, Viper, and Warpath arrives
Deluxe Protectobots arrives at same time
Voyager Hotspot and Cyclonus arrive 2 weeks later.
Under TF Source, I have to wait for Hotspot and Cyclonus before the stack ships. With BBTS, I can choose to ship my POL with just the Legends and Deluxe figures, and ship a future POL with the Voyagers.
I know I have the BBTS POL correct. Is this how TFSource's Stack feature works? If this is all true, then I would rather pay the shipping and have the choice when my POL ships than have to wait on an item before my Stack ships. This is especially true for Takara's Defensor (Guardian?) as it is not expected to come in until late in the year. I'd have to guess which other items I want to Pre-order with the set in order to maximize shipping. This isn't an issue with this set due to the cost. But, for other orders that are significantly less than the shipping minimum, well, I'm okay with paying the shipping to have the freedom to determine when to ship.
Does that make sense, or am I talking in circles again.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690301)
Posted by Syn_13 on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:54pm CDT
Posted by Syn_13 on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:54pm CDT
Hmm, I seem to be in a dilemma. I really want the Deluxe Groove but I cannot justify paying £30 more just to have a more accurate version of Defensor. I do hope Hasbro decide to release Deluxe Groove as they did with Slingshot and Wildrider.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690302)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:56pm CDT
I was basing my "about a $25.00 mark-up" on what the Takara Tomy Mall website is selling Defensor for, ¥16,200, if memory serves. Google tells me that this would be $133.35 in U.S. dollars. So if BBTS and TFSource are charging $159.99, then that is a mark-up of about $25.00, or to be more specific, $26.64.
Since the Takara Tomy Mall is the only place (officially) to purchase the Takara Defensor, then comparing his cost to what other retailers charge for other Unite Warriors gestalts is not really a relevant comparison to determine what the mark-up U.S. retailers are adding to it is.
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 25th, 2015 @ 12:56pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Yotsuyasan wrote:...given that BBTS and TFSource only seem to have about a $25.00 mark-up on this...
...So that's $102 vs. $137, a $35 difference.
I was basing my "about a $25.00 mark-up" on what the Takara Tomy Mall website is selling Defensor for, ¥16,200, if memory serves. Google tells me that this would be $133.35 in U.S. dollars. So if BBTS and TFSource are charging $159.99, then that is a mark-up of about $25.00, or to be more specific, $26.64.
Since the Takara Tomy Mall is the only place (officially) to purchase the Takara Defensor, then comparing his cost to what other retailers charge for other Unite Warriors gestalts is not really a relevant comparison to determine what the mark-up U.S. retailers are adding to it is.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690303)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 25th, 2015 @ 1:00pm CDT
No, you can ship a Source Stack with only part of it in stock. Once Superion and the white Perfect Effect hands & feet are in, hopefully sometime in June, I'm planning to ship what I have so far. I'm not waiting until December when they project Defensor's arrival to get Superion in.
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 25th, 2015 @ 1:00pm CDT
Agamemnon wrote:But, with TFSource's Stack feature, all pre-ordered items have to come in before the stack ships, correct?
No, you can ship a Source Stack with only part of it in stock. Once Superion and the white Perfect Effect hands & feet are in, hopefully sometime in June, I'm planning to ship what I have so far. I'm not waiting until December when they project Defensor's arrival to get Superion in.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690310)
Posted by william-james88 on May 25th, 2015 @ 1:19pm CDT
While that may be correct , it isn't practical in the least since less than 5% of us can order from Takaratomymall. A comparison between channels we can all purchase from is far more practical and helps us make up our arguments since they have a practical connotation, rather than simply theoretical.
The price difference of this exclusivity is even greater than the one Megatronus write about. What might have cost us 102$ US (if we could import it like the others), now costs upwards of 160$ US (doesnt include shipping and heavy customs fee for non USA buyers), which is a significant difference. And now I must seriously rethink about my strategy with these combiners.
I think the smartest thing to do right now is wait. I will wait to see if he comes to HLJ or amiami (I can hope), I will wait to see if there are discounts on Hasbro's version in stores, I will wait to see if Hasbro releases their own groove (the clear plastic usage is not indicative that this is solely a Takara product, the RID figures have clear plastic too). Simply put, I will wait for either a better (aka cheaper) opportunity in owning the Takara figure to present itself, or wait for discounts on the Hasbro versions in store. Whichever comes first.
Posted by william-james88 on May 25th, 2015 @ 1:19pm CDT
Yotsuyasan wrote:megatronus wrote:Yotsuyasan wrote:...given that BBTS and TFSource only seem to have about a $25.00 mark-up on this...
...So that's $102 vs. $137, a $35 difference.
I was basing my "about a $25.00 mark-up" on what the Takara Tomy Mall website is selling Defensor for, ¥16,200, if memory serves. Google tells me that this would be $133.35 in U.S. dollars. So if BBTS and TFSource are charging $159.99, then that is a mark-up of about $25.00, or to be more specific, $26.64.
Since the Takara Tomy Mall is the only place (officially) to purchase the Takara Defensor, then comparing his cost to what other retailers charge for other Unite Warriors gestalts is not really a relevant comparison to determine what the mark-up U.S. retailers are adding to it is.
While that may be correct
, it isn't practical in the least since less than 5% of us can order from Takaratomymall. A comparison between channels we can all purchase from is far more practical and helps us make up our arguments since they have a practical connotation, rather than simply theoretical.The price difference of this exclusivity is even greater than the one Megatronus write about. What might have cost us 102$ US (if we could import it like the others), now costs upwards of 160$ US (doesnt include shipping and heavy customs fee for non USA buyers), which is a significant difference. And now I must seriously rethink about my strategy with these combiners.
I think the smartest thing to do right now is wait. I will wait to see if he comes to HLJ or amiami (I can hope), I will wait to see if there are discounts on Hasbro's version in stores, I will wait to see if Hasbro releases their own groove (the clear plastic usage is not indicative that this is solely a Takara product, the RID figures have clear plastic too). Simply put, I will wait for either a better (aka cheaper) opportunity in owning the Takara figure to present itself, or wait for discounts on the Hasbro versions in store. Whichever comes first.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690312)
Posted by Agamemnon on May 25th, 2015 @ 1:21pm CDT
Hrm....
I wonder if that was a change in policy from when the Stack first was implimented. The reasons for staying with BBTS may have shrunk... And both stores are very close to me...
Thanks, guys!
Posted by Agamemnon on May 25th, 2015 @ 1:21pm CDT
Yotsuyasan wrote:Agamemnon wrote:But, with TFSource's Stack feature, all pre-ordered items have to come in before the stack ships, correct?
No, you can ship a Source Stack with only part of it in stock. Once Superion and the white Perfect Effect hands & feet are in, hopefully sometime in June, I'm planning to ship what I have so far. I'm not waiting until December when they project Defensor's arrival to get Superion in.
Hrm....
I wonder if that was a change in policy from when the Stack first was implimented. The reasons for staying with BBTS may have shrunk... And both stores are very close to me...Thanks, guys!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690334)
Posted by megatronus on May 25th, 2015 @ 3:03pm CDT
No worries!
You are able to select which in-stock items you want to ship, so there's actually a greater degree of flexibility with Stack; you can keep a couple in-stock items in the Stack if you want to generate two orders from it, or wait for another item to come in to get that free shipping. Flip side is once it's in-stock, items are harder to cancel. So both Stack and POL have their benefits, but Stack is a much better system than most realize.
Posted by megatronus on May 25th, 2015 @ 3:03pm CDT
Agamemnon wrote:Yotsuyasan wrote:Agamemnon wrote:But, with TFSource's Stack feature, all pre-ordered items have to come in before the stack ships, correct?
No, you can ship a Source Stack with only part of it in stock. Once Superion and the white Perfect Effect hands & feet are in, hopefully sometime in June, I'm planning to ship what I have so far. I'm not waiting until December when they project Defensor's arrival to get Superion in.
Hrm....
Thanks, guys!
No worries!
You are able to select which in-stock items you want to ship, so there's actually a greater degree of flexibility with Stack; you can keep a couple in-stock items in the Stack if you want to generate two orders from it, or wait for another item to come in to get that free shipping. Flip side is once it's in-stock, items are harder to cancel. So both Stack and POL have their benefits, but Stack is a much better system than most realize.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690345)
Posted by shajaki on May 25th, 2015 @ 4:04pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 25th, 2015 @ 4:04pm CDT
I'd like to front page this, but you can't News every single pic 
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690348)
Posted by Va'al on May 25th, 2015 @ 4:08pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on May 25th, 2015 @ 4:08pm CDT
You learn. Good.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690360)
Posted by shajaki on May 25th, 2015 @ 4:45pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 25th, 2015 @ 4:45pm CDT
Va'al wrote:You learn. Good.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690365)
Posted by Rated X on May 25th, 2015 @ 5:11pm CDT
Well everybody has there own opinion of what is "useless".
What I consider useless is updates to characters who already got an update. Additionally, these molds in robot mode are missing key aesthetics for those autobots. I need them to have those signature carparts on their chests, not backpacks. And a prowl without wings just isnt prowl to me. I call them "lazy repaints" because these new younger hasbro designers were too lazy to flip through the IP archives and find characters that the molds actually resemble. Im sure there are dozens of micromasters, G2 characters, Japan only characters, Unicron trilogy repaints, original RID characters, etc. that the CW molds would have resembled much better for homages. Instead we get, oh its a police car so give it a prowl head. Or its an SUV so paint it red and give it an Ironhide head. Dont forget the inevitable repaints of the repaints so they can sell you bluestreak, smokescreen, ratchet, sideswipe, and Fracture. Im happy with the current CHUG versions of all these characters. Some have their minor flaws, but their key G1 aesthetics are all spot on in a CHUG kind of way. This autobot combiner really fits better with Hasbros strategy. Im surprised Takara would even do something that deviates so far from G1 cartoon or toy accuracy. Its even funnier that Takara was the first one to officially acknowledge the autobot limbs will be made. All we saw from hasbro is leaked store information from a TRU computer.
Posted by Rated X on May 25th, 2015 @ 5:11pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Rated X wrote:A combiner based on lazy repaints that never actually existed in any fiction. For those of you who want to re-enact the G1 episode "Masquerade" that badly, just buy two Menasors.
Is making useless posts your specialty?
Yes. X is our resident FUNposter.
Well everybody has there own opinion of what is "useless".
What I consider useless is updates to characters who already got an update. Additionally, these molds in robot mode are missing key aesthetics for those autobots. I need them to have those signature carparts on their chests, not backpacks. And a prowl without wings just isnt prowl to me. I call them "lazy repaints" because these new younger hasbro designers were too lazy to flip through the IP archives and find characters that the molds actually resemble. Im sure there are dozens of micromasters, G2 characters, Japan only characters, Unicron trilogy repaints, original RID characters, etc. that the CW molds would have resembled much better for homages. Instead we get, oh its a police car so give it a prowl head. Or its an SUV so paint it red and give it an Ironhide head. Dont forget the inevitable repaints of the repaints so they can sell you bluestreak, smokescreen, ratchet, sideswipe, and Fracture. Im happy with the current CHUG versions of all these characters. Some have their minor flaws, but their key G1 aesthetics are all spot on in a CHUG kind of way. This autobot combiner really fits better with Hasbros strategy. Im surprised Takara would even do something that deviates so far from G1 cartoon or toy accuracy. Its even funnier that Takara was the first one to officially acknowledge the autobot limbs will be made. All we saw from hasbro is leaked store information from a TRU computer.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690374)
Posted by shajaki on May 25th, 2015 @ 5:36pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 25th, 2015 @ 5:36pm CDT
*sigh*
So why have a new figure when he already has an updated representation? Sideswipe has a great Classics/Henkei update, and a Masterpiece. So are you saying we should NEVER get another Sideswipe again?
Also the amount of remolding you expect is kind of ludicrous. At that point you might as well make a brand new figure. Which they obviously don't want to go through the trouble to do. So its either these, or nothing. I choose these, you obviously choose nothing, so why not leave it at that instead of continuously raining on everyones parade?
The way I view this whole thing (G1 dudes getting CW figures) is no different than say Optimus Primal being upgraded to Transmetal, then to Optimal Optimus. TF's change bodies ALL THE TIME.
So why have a new figure when he already has an updated representation? Sideswipe has a great Classics/Henkei update, and a Masterpiece. So are you saying we should NEVER get another Sideswipe again?
Also the amount of remolding you expect is kind of ludicrous. At that point you might as well make a brand new figure. Which they obviously don't want to go through the trouble to do. So its either these, or nothing. I choose these, you obviously choose nothing, so why not leave it at that instead of continuously raining on everyones parade?
The way I view this whole thing (G1 dudes getting CW figures) is no different than say Optimus Primal being upgraded to Transmetal, then to Optimal Optimus. TF's change bodies ALL THE TIME.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690379)
Posted by megatronus on May 25th, 2015 @ 5:45pm CDT
Just look at Starscream in the comics - he's had what, 3 bodies in the last year or so?
Posted by megatronus on May 25th, 2015 @ 5:45pm CDT
shajaki wrote:TF's change bodies ALL THE TIME.
Just look at Starscream in the comics - he's had what, 3 bodies in the last year or so?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Unite Warriors Autobot Combiner Teaser (1690392)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 25th, 2015 @ 6:30pm CDT
@ shajster!
Posted by fenrir72 on May 25th, 2015 @ 6:30pm CDT
shajaki wrote:*sigh*
So why have a new figure when he already has an updated representation? Sideswipe has a great Classics/Henkei update, and a Masterpiece. So are you saying we should NEVER get another Sideswipe again?
Also the amount of remolding you expect is kind of ludicrous. At that point you might as well make a brand new figure. Which they obviously don't want to go through the trouble to do. So its either these, or nothing. I choose these, you obviously choose nothing, so why not leave it at that instead of continuously raining on everyones parade?
The way I view this whole thing (G1 dudes getting CW figures) is no different than say Optimus Primal being upgraded to Transmetal, then to Optimal Optimus. TF's change bodies ALL THE TIME.
@ shajster!
