Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail
Saturday, May 30th, 2015 1:20PM CDT
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Japan resident Matt has spotted the latest Takara Tomy TAV Transformers figures in Japan.
The figures found were:
TAV 17 Shrapnel for 1105 Yen (8.90$ US)
TAV 16 Bombshell for 1105 Yen (8.90$ US)
TAV 15 Voyager Lockdown 2975 Yen (23.96$ US)
You gotta love how Japan has a reliable release schedule, and nothing beats those local prices, which are the same as the local Hasbro prices (at least for the Legends figures here).
The figures found were:
TAV 17 Shrapnel for 1105 Yen (8.90$ US)
TAV 16 Bombshell for 1105 Yen (8.90$ US)
TAV 15 Voyager Lockdown 2975 Yen (23.96$ US)
This was found at an electronics store named Yamada Denki.
You gotta love how Japan has a reliable release schedule, and nothing beats those local prices, which are the same as the local Hasbro prices (at least for the Legends figures here).
Credit(s): Matt in Japan
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692460)
Posted by jgilkinson on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:35pm CDT
Posted by jgilkinson on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:35pm CDT
Anyone know if the white decal on the insections is a removeable sticker or a paint app?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692463)
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:43pm CDT
Removeable sticker but you would be stuck with a nasty indent which is not present in the hasbro mold:
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:43pm CDT
jgilkinson wrote:Anyone know if the white decal on the insections is a removeable sticker or a paint app?
Removeable sticker but you would be stuck with a nasty indent which is not present in the hasbro mold:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692469)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:57pm CDT
From page one, it was confirmed that the ADVENTURE faction symbols are stickers.
Just last page we have shown that not only the ADVENTURE stickers are removable from the Insecticon chests, those chest have been remolded with circle indents to accomodate the ADV stickers. So far, those are the only figures remolded this way.
One more reason for me to stick with Hasbro on the Insecticons.
Also, deluxe Lockdown is so big that he's been reclassified as a voyager! In fact, many older figures would be reclassified due to the changes in standard sizes of TFs.
A great example is Ultra Beast Machine Jetstorm. If re-released, he would be sold as a LEADER class toy and priced as such.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2015 @ 1:57pm CDT
jgilkinson wrote:Anyone know if the white decal on the insections is a removeable sticker or a paint app?
From page one, it was confirmed that the ADVENTURE faction symbols are stickers.
Just last page we have shown that not only the ADVENTURE stickers are removable from the Insecticon chests, those chest have been remolded with circle indents to accomodate the ADV stickers. So far, those are the only figures remolded this way.
One more reason for me to stick with Hasbro on the Insecticons.
Also, deluxe Lockdown is so big that he's been reclassified as a voyager! In fact, many older figures would be reclassified due to the changes in standard sizes of TFs.
A great example is Ultra Beast Machine Jetstorm. If re-released, he would be sold as a LEADER class toy and priced as such.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692476)
Posted by jgilkinson on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:29pm CDT
oh yeah that made my mind up for me. Saw a few of these guys on clearance at a local walmart so heading there to grab whats left. Thanks
Posted by jgilkinson on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:29pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:jgilkinson wrote:Anyone know if the white decal on the insections is a removeable sticker or a paint app?
Removeable sticker but you would be stuck with a nasty indent which is not present in the hasbro mold:
oh yeah that made my mind up for me. Saw a few of these guys on clearance at a local walmart so heading there to grab whats left. Thanks
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692477)
Posted by Autobot_Crossfire on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:29pm CDT
Posted by Autobot_Crossfire on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:29pm CDT
I find it funny how Takara made their voyagers cheaper than Hasbro's, but our release of this mold was still cheaper because it was a deluxe. 
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692480)
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:35pm CDT
No, the voyagers arent cheaper because Lockdown IS NOT priced as a voyager. He is priced between a voyager and deluxe. A voyager would cost between 25-30$ US in Japan.
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:35pm CDT
Autobot_Crossfire wrote:I find it funny how Takara made their voyagers cheaper than Hasbro's, but our release of this mold was still cheaper because it was a deluxe.
No, the voyagers arent cheaper because Lockdown IS NOT priced as a voyager. He is priced between a voyager and deluxe. A voyager would cost between 25-30$ US in Japan.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692481)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:39pm CDT
Like Battle Blade Bumblebee before him, Animated Lockdown is quite tall for a Deluxe. TakaraTomy took advantage of his height, put him in a box and bumped the price by 1,000 Yen. That doesn't make him a Voyager Class figure, as Ultra Magnus is still 800 Yen more expensive (3,500 vs. 4,300 Yen).
Gotta appreciate TakaraTomy's flexible pricing structure.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:39pm CDT
Autobot_Crossfire wrote:I find it funny how Takara made their voyagers cheaper than Hasbro's, but our release of this mold was still cheaper because it was a deluxe.
Like Battle Blade Bumblebee before him, Animated Lockdown is quite tall for a Deluxe. TakaraTomy took advantage of his height, put him in a box and bumped the price by 1,000 Yen. That doesn't make him a Voyager Class figure, as Ultra Magnus is still 800 Yen more expensive (3,500 vs. 4,300 Yen).
Gotta appreciate TakaraTomy's flexible pricing structure.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692487)
Posted by megatronus on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on May 30th, 2015 @ 2:55pm CDT
Yup. HLJ has TAV Ultra Magnus for 3440 Yen, Lockdown is only 2800. Also, Lockdown is low stock, so scoop him up while he's cheap!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692566)
Posted by dragons on May 30th, 2015 @ 8:59pm CDT
Posted by dragons on May 30th, 2015 @ 8:59pm CDT
what is with lockdown having kabuki mack up on his face?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692580)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:42pm CDT
I should probably get my mind out of the gutter, but that sentence is priceless.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:42pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Should we ask Kanrabat to look at his Junkion again?
I should probably get my mind out of the gutter, but that sentence is priceless.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692581)
Posted by Starsaber468 on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:47pm CDT
Posted by Starsaber468 on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:47pm CDT
Willaim just wanted to tell you we a4e most likely going to get a g2 generations menasor we MIGHT get a botcon exclusive flywheels
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692583)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:51pm CDT
Lol I didn't notice! Lol!
Get yo mind out of da gutter!
I pity the fool!
Grow up!
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 9:51pm CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Should we ask Kanrabat to look at his Junkion again?
I should probably get my mind out of the gutter, but that sentence is priceless.
Lol I didn't notice! Lol!
Get yo mind out of da gutter!
I pity the fool!
Grow up!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692586)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on May 30th, 2015 @ 10:00pm CDT
Sir, we do not use that phrase in a site where adults collect and discuss about transforming toys for kids.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on May 30th, 2015 @ 10:00pm CDT
Silly wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Should we ask Kanrabat to look at his Junkion again?
I should probably get my mind out of the gutter, but that sentence is priceless.
Lol I didn't notice! Lol!
Get yo mind out of da gutter!
I pity the fool!
Grow up!
Sir, we do not use that phrase in a site where adults collect and discuss about transforming toys for kids.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692598)
Posted by shajaki on May 30th, 2015 @ 10:29pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 30th, 2015 @ 10:29pm CDT
The Transformer Tweeting Guru TFyuki has decided to tease us once again, this time with Transformers Adventure TAV-18 Drift! This version has added paint applications compared to the Stateside Hasbro Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Class Drift, and is slated for release in Japan this June. Differences include: mustache/beard painted, helm trim, blue on the chest, black trim on the skirt, and more red and black on the legs and feet. See the pics below, and be sure to check out Seibertron's own Gallery of RID Drift!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692599)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2015 @ 10:31pm CDT
Look like dragon have a little brother!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 30th, 2015 @ 10:31pm CDT
Starsaber468 wrote:http://www.fromtexttospeech.com/texttospeech_output_files/0595690001433042947/6472057.mp3
Look like dragon have a little brother!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692618)
Posted by shajaki on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:04pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:04pm CDT
Blogger slash Tweeter Alfes2010 has posted some pictures of TakaraTomy Transformers Adventure figures TAV-15 Lockdown, TAV-16 Bombshell & TAV-17 Shrapnel! Lockdown is of course a re-deco of the original Transformers Animated figure, while the Insecticons (Bombshell & Skrapnel) hail from the Legends Class Generations/Combiner Wars lines. Lockdown aside from deco remains unchanged, but the bugs have been slightly remolded in order to incorporate the circle TAV logo sticker on their chests. This development may turn some off, the unified deco of the pair still pleases this reporter. See the pics below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your Transformers News!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692620)
Posted by Cobotron on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CDT
That 
tattoo on Lockdown's chest is pretty dope.
The whole deco is sweet.
tattoo on Lockdown's chest is pretty dope.The whole deco is sweet.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692622)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:11pm CDT
Lockdown looks so sick! (Not literally lol.)
I know I am just stating the obvious but those paint aps on his chest and face really make him look, well EVIL!
Hey guys? have you noticed that Lockdown has green lightpiping, painted over with red? Just pointing out something kinda silly about this figure.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:11pm CDT
shajaki wrote:Blogger slash Tweeter Alfes2010 has posted some pictures of TakaraTomy Transformers Adventure figures TAV-15 Lockdown, TAV-16 Bombshell & TAV-17 Shrapnel! Lockdown is of course a re-deco of the original Transformers Animated figure, while the Insecticons (Bombshell & Skrapnel) hail from the Legends Class Generations/Combiner Wars lines. Lockdown aside from deco remains unchanged, but the bugs have been slightly remolded in order to incorporate the circle TAV logo sticker on their chests. This development may turn some off, the unified deco of the pair still pleases this reporter. See the pics below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your Transformers News!
Lockdown looks so sick! (Not literally lol.)
I know I am just stating the obvious but those paint aps on his chest and face really make him look, well EVIL!
Hey guys? have you noticed that Lockdown has green lightpiping, painted over with red? Just pointing out something kinda silly about this figure.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692627)
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:20pm CDT
This discussion belongs in the botcon thread and has been moved. Any news you may have would need a source and if you have that, you can send it in by using the link in my signature.
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:20pm CDT
Starsaber468 wrote:Willaim just wanted to tell you we a4e most likely going to get a g2 generations menasor we MIGHT get a botcon exclusive flywheels
This discussion belongs in the botcon thread and has been moved. Any news you may have would need a source and if you have that, you can send it in by using the link in my signature.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692632)
Posted by megatronus on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:29pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:29pm CDT
Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692634)
Posted by Burn on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:30pm CDT
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
Posted by Burn on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:30pm CDT
megatronus wrote:Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692641)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:34pm CDT
Yeah I know, they don't even fit on the chests!
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:34pm CDT
Burn wrote:megatronus wrote:Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
Yeah I know, they don't even fit on the chests!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692642)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:36pm CDT
Pardon my ignorance, but is the code scanner game thing even available in Japan? Because if they don't, the usage of those stickers is even more ridiculous.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:36pm CDT
Burn wrote:megatronus wrote:Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
Pardon my ignorance, but is the code scanner game thing even available in Japan? Because if they don't, the usage of those stickers is even more ridiculous.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692645)
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:40pm CDT
They have their own game app just for them.
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2015 @ 11:40pm CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Burn wrote:megatronus wrote:Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
Pardon my ignorance, but is the code scanner game thing even available in Japan? Because if they don't, the usage of those stickers is even more ridiculous.
They have their own game app just for them.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692672)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on May 31st, 2015 @ 12:53am CDT
Thanks for the info!
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on May 31st, 2015 @ 12:53am CDT
william-james88 wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Burn wrote:megatronus wrote:Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
Pardon my ignorance, but is the code scanner game thing even available in Japan? Because if they don't, the usage of those stickers is even more ridiculous.
They have their own game app just for them.
Thanks for the info!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692676)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 31st, 2015 @ 1:16am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 31st, 2015 @ 1:16am CDT
Remember, the oversized stickers are just dummy stickers for packaging and, per Takara's request, photographing, as they prevent the real codes from being scanned and used without the purchase of the toys in question. In person, once you have these out of the package, the scannable insignias will be of a smaller size, fitting the figures appropriately. Still, I'll be ripping the stickers of the Insecticons, Powerglide, and Cosmos, replacing them with appropriate licensed Decepticon and Autobot decals from Ocean once I get my paws on them.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692679)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2015 @ 1:22am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2015 @ 1:22am CDT
dragons wrote:what is with lockdown having kabuki mack up on his face?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1692901)
Posted by Emerje on May 31st, 2015 @ 9:12pm CDT
Well, glad I didn't buy these and try to remove the stickers. Not sure why Takara Tomy bothered to make them look so G1 if they were just going to remold them. They look bad with or without the stickers. Glad I went with the Hasbro versions after all.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on May 31st, 2015 @ 9:12pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
Well, glad I didn't buy these and try to remove the stickers. Not sure why Takara Tomy bothered to make them look so G1 if they were just going to remold them. They look bad with or without the stickers. Glad I went with the Hasbro versions after all.
Emerje
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693491)
Posted by Optimizzy on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:38am CDT
why is this kinda stuff even said? I wish people would stop being TT fanboys and just like Transformers.
Posted by Optimizzy on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:38am CDT
Burn wrote:megatronus wrote:Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
why is this kinda stuff even said? I wish people would stop being TT fanboys and just like Transformers.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693514)
Posted by william-james88 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:50am CDT
Yeah, me too. Both companies care about the brand and have their own agendas with products they want to put out and in what way. And it's not like Takara is the be all end all, after all they were the ones who came up with the Microns which is a concept very few like. Oh sure Takara, give Megatron a gorilla micron I have to piece together myself instead of a nice cannon.
Posted by william-james88 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:50am CDT
Optimizzy wrote:Burn wrote:megatronus wrote:Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
why is this kinda stuff even said? I wish people would stop being TT fanboys and just like Transformers.
Yeah, me too. Both companies care about the brand and have their own agendas with products they want to put out and in what way. And it's not like Takara is the be all end all, after all they were the ones who came up with the Microns which is a concept very few like. Oh sure Takara, give Megatron a gorilla micron I have to piece together myself instead of a nice cannon.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693518)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:52am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:52am CDT
Said gorilla becomes a very nice cannon.william-james88 wrote:Optimizzy wrote:Burn wrote:megatronus wrote:Ugh. Why do those stickers have to be so big?
Really kills the figures doesn't it? Worse is the knowledge this comes from TakaraTomy. You'd expect this sort of thing from Hasbro.
why is this kinda stuff even said? I wish people would stop being TT fanboys and just like Transformers.
Yeah, me too. Both companies care about the brand and have their own agendas with products they want to put out and in what way. And it's not like Takara is the be all end all, after all they were the ones who came up with the Microns which is a concept very few like. Oh sure Takara, give Megatron a gorilla micron I have to piece together myself instead of a nice cannon.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693527)
Posted by william-james88 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:08pm CDT
Haha! I am glad you like him. What I dont like is that since it isnt one piece, it tends to split a bit and not be even. Also that cannon is HUGE. My other beef was with Ironhide. Hasbro's Kup had these great movie Ironhide weapons that would have gone great with Takara's Ironhide. But no, instead we get:
Instead of this:
Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Sergeant Kup Gallery
Also, while I have you here Sabr, could you explain to me what these are in terms of toy/fiction?
Posted by william-james88 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:08pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Said gorilla becomes a very nice cannon.william-james88 wrote:Yeah, me too. Both companies care about the brand and have their own agendas with products they want to put out and in what way. And it's not like Takara is the be all end all, after all they were the ones who came up with the Microns which is a concept very few like. Oh sure Takara, give Megatron a gorilla micron I have to piece together myself instead of a nice cannon.
Haha! I am glad you like him. What I dont like is that since it isnt one piece, it tends to split a bit and not be even. Also that cannon is HUGE. My other beef was with Ironhide. Hasbro's Kup had these great movie Ironhide weapons that would have gone great with Takara's Ironhide. But no, instead we get:
Instead of this:
Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Sergeant Kup Gallery
Also, while I have you here Sabr, could you explain to me what these are in terms of toy/fiction?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693536)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:33pm CDT
Left to right: Gob 2, Zad 1, Optimus Prime Blaster, Bumblebee Sword, Zad 2, Gob 1
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:33pm CDT
Those are the first wave of the Gacha Arms Microns. Little capsule toy Arms Microns that were sold in Japanese vending machines. The little Autobot ones are Autobots (of course) and the little animal ones are Decepticons.william-james88 wrote:Also, while I have you here Sabr, could you explain to me what these are in terms of toy/fiction?
Left to right: Gob 2, Zad 1, Optimus Prime Blaster, Bumblebee Sword, Zad 2, Gob 1
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693538)
Posted by william-james88 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:41pm CDT
So that is actually Optimus that turns into a gun for...who?
Posted by william-james88 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:41pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Left to right: Gob 2, Zad 1, Optimus Prime Blaster, Bumblebee Sword, Zad 2, Gob 1
So that is actually Optimus that turns into a gun for...who?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693540)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:44pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:44pm CDT
Best to think of OPB and BBS as separate dudes from the bigger versions who just happen to resemble the bigger versions for some reason or another.william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Left to right: Gob 2, Zad 1, Optimus Prime Blaster, Bumblebee Sword, Zad 2, Gob 1
So that is actually Optimus that turns into a gun for...who?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693545)
Posted by Optimizzy on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:51pm CDT
To me, the point is these are rather unimaginative gimmicks. I don't mind the idea behind them but I thought they way they were released was cheap. My AM Ironhides gun broke when input him together. I wasn't too happy. I love little target master guys but I think the point is that this was a misstep. But the missteps from Takara are kinda ignored because they are "the good company" whereas Hasbro is "the bad company".
It just seems like many of us blame Hasbro for everything wrong and Takara for everything right and that just isn't so. It's hard to enjoy the fandom sometimes when so many people seem to feel the need to crap on it because of the company that released it.
I'll freely admit that most of the time Takara has a superior product But they seem geared towards collectors and fans, and Hasbro isn't.
The argument is like, "I like fruit and oranges. But look at that bannana! Why arent you an orange you bannana!"
Posted by Optimizzy on June 2nd, 2015 @ 12:51pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Left to right: Gob 2, Zad 1, Optimus Prime Blaster, Bumblebee Sword, Zad 2, Gob 1
So that is actually Optimus that turns into a gun for...who?
To me, the point is these are rather unimaginative gimmicks. I don't mind the idea behind them but I thought they way they were released was cheap. My AM Ironhides gun broke when input him together. I wasn't too happy. I love little target master guys but I think the point is that this was a misstep. But the missteps from Takara are kinda ignored because they are "the good company" whereas Hasbro is "the bad company".
It just seems like many of us blame Hasbro for everything wrong and Takara for everything right and that just isn't so. It's hard to enjoy the fandom sometimes when so many people seem to feel the need to crap on it because of the company that released it.
I'll freely admit that most of the time Takara has a superior product But they seem geared towards collectors and fans, and Hasbro isn't.
The argument is like, "I like fruit and oranges. But look at that bannana! Why arent you an orange you bannana!"
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693613)
Posted by prjkt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:05pm CDT
Posted by prjkt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:05pm CDT
Yeah the rage at Hasbro vs love for Takara is a little unbalanced, but check the "When was the Hasbro version better" thread here (can't link on mobile) for some role reversal there.
The whole arms micron thing seems silly to us westerners, but it was aimed at the Japanese teen market, with whom modelling is a big thing. Some of the weapons that are packed in with the figures are pretty sweet, but most of the Gacha ones ("gotcha?") are pretty stupid. I kind of regret buying all 12 in translucent colours, though I may follow Sabr's lead when TFCC Serpentor arrives and make his staff...
The whole arms micron thing seems silly to us westerners, but it was aimed at the Japanese teen market, with whom modelling is a big thing. Some of the weapons that are packed in with the figures are pretty sweet, but most of the Gacha ones ("gotcha?") are pretty stupid. I kind of regret buying all 12 in translucent colours, though I may follow Sabr's lead when TFCC Serpentor arrives and make his staff...
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693616)
Posted by william-james88 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:08pm CDT
Here's the thread http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/when-was-the-hasbro-version-better-than-the-takara-version--p1692812.php
Arms micron is actually ignored but I guess its because the terrible weapons in the Hasbro versions didnt make them better versions either way (and NO ONE made a dark grey megatron, NO ONE!!!!!!!!).
Gotta admit though, that giant purple bat which turns into a sickle and gives megatron dark energon wings was pretty stellar.
Posted by william-james88 on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:08pm CDT
prjkt wrote:Yeah the rage at Hasbro vs love for Takara is a little unbalanced, but check the "When was the Hasbro version better" thread here (can't link on mobile) for some role reversal there.
The whole arms micron thing seems silly to us westerners, but it was aimed at the Japanese teen market, with whom modelling is a big thing. Some of the weapons that are packed in with the figures are pretty sweet, but most of the Gacha ones ("gotcha?") are pretty stupid. I kind of regret buying all 12 in translucent colours, though I may follow Sabr's lead when TFCC Serpentor arrives and make his staff...
Here's the thread http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/when-was-the-hasbro-version-better-than-the-takara-version--p1692812.php
Arms micron is actually ignored but I guess its because the terrible weapons in the Hasbro versions didnt make them better versions either way (and NO ONE made a dark grey megatron, NO ONE!!!!!!!!).
Gotta admit though, that giant purple bat which turns into a sickle and gives megatron dark energon wings was pretty stellar.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693621)
Posted by prjkt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:15pm CDT
Posted by prjkt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 4:15pm CDT
That was kind of a given though, I'd say for Prime/AM Hasbro was the clear winner, as they actually had paint jobs and weren't given extra random ports all over. But that's a topic for another thread.
Semi-related, I'm glad from the promo pics that for Ground Vehicon General they seem to be using the Prime mould and not the AM mould, even though the differences are subtle on this mould, it still looks a little more streamlined.
I wonder what other random releases will end up in this line, we've had Animated, Beast Hunters, Prime and Generations Legends all lumped in.
Semi-related, I'm glad from the promo pics that for Ground Vehicon General they seem to be using the Prime mould and not the AM mould, even though the differences are subtle on this mould, it still looks a little more streamlined.
I wonder what other random releases will end up in this line, we've had Animated, Beast Hunters, Prime and Generations Legends all lumped in.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693644)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 2nd, 2015 @ 5:40pm CDT
Easy. Do as I did. Get both and switch the weapons around! As an added bonus, misstransform Kup to make him very different.
Modding the second I-Gear Generations Kup head from the kit may be a bit overkill though.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 2nd, 2015 @ 5:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Haha! I am glad you like him. What I dont like is that since it isnt one piece, it tends to split a bit and not be even. Also that cannon is HUGE. My other beef was with Ironhide. Hasbro's Kup had these great movie Ironhide weapons that would have gone great with Takara's Ironhide. But no, instead we get:
Instead of this:
Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Sergeant Kup Gallery
Easy. Do as I did. Get both and switch the weapons around! As an added bonus, misstransform Kup to make him very different.
Modding the second I-Gear Generations Kup head from the kit may be a bit overkill though.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693645)
Posted by Optimizzy on June 2nd, 2015 @ 5:46pm CDT
I got both and painted Ironhide with a bit more red. I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
Posted by Optimizzy on June 2nd, 2015 @ 5:46pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Haha! I am glad you like him. What I dont like is that since it isnt one piece, it tends to split a bit and not be even. Also that cannon is HUGE. My other beef was with Ironhide. Hasbro's Kup had these great movie Ironhide weapons that would have gone great with Takara's Ironhide. But no, instead we get:
Instead of this:
Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Sergeant Kup Gallery
Easy. Do as I did. Get both and switch the weapons around! As an added bonus, misstransform Kup to make him very different.
Modding the second I-Gear Generations Kup head from the kit may be a bit overkill though.
I got both and painted Ironhide with a bit more red. I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693707)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 9:45pm CDT
Great idea! His micron is perfect for Brawn!
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 9:45pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:william-james88 wrote:Haha! I am glad you like him. What I dont like is that since it isnt one piece, it tends to split a bit and not be even. Also that cannon is HUGE. My other beef was with Ironhide. Hasbro's Kup had these great movie Ironhide weapons that would have gone great with Takara's Ironhide. But no, instead we get:
Instead of this:
Transformers Prime: Robots In Disguise Sergeant Kup Gallery
Easy. Do as I did. Get both and switch the weapons around! As an added bonus, misstransform Kup to make him very different.
Modding the second I-Gear Generations Kup head from the kit may be a bit overkill though.
I got both and painted Ironhide with a bit more red. I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
Great idea! His micron is perfect for Brawn!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693726)
Posted by Moosey on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:26pm CDT
I totally didn't realize the Micron's name was Lip, so I originally completely misread this as you were giving Ironhide some lipstick, as you can tell, I was confused with what this had to do with Brawn!
Posted by Moosey on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:26pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote: I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
I totally didn't realize the Micron's name was Lip, so I originally completely misread this as you were giving Ironhide some lipstick, as you can tell, I was confused with what this had to do with Brawn!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693727)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:35pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:35pm CDT
"lip" was likely a typo for Kup, meaning Kup was painted into Brawn, not the Micron (whose name is "Iro", btw).Moosey wrote:Optimizzy wrote: I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
I totally didn't realize the Micron's name was Lip, so I originally completely misread this as you were giving Ironhide some lipstick, as you can tell, I was confused with what this had to do with Brawn!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693733)
Posted by Optimizzy on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:43pm CDT
Indeed. Sorry guys, I meant "Kup"
Posted by Optimizzy on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"lip" was likely a typo for Kup, meaning Kup was painted into Brawn, not the Micron (whose name is "Iro", btw).Moosey wrote:Optimizzy wrote: I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
I totally didn't realize the Micron's name was Lip, so I originally completely misread this as you were giving Ironhide some lipstick, as you can tell, I was confused with what this had to do with Brawn!
Indeed. Sorry guys, I meant "Kup"
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693737)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:52pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on June 2nd, 2015 @ 10:52pm CDT
I'm assuming Optimizzy was posting from a "smart" phone. Gotta love autocorrect! 
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693749)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:12pm CDT
Lol you think like my mom!
I knew it had to be someone's name because it was capitalized. I was just wondering why his name was Lip, because like you, I didn't know that!
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:12pm CDT
Moosey wrote:Optimizzy wrote: I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
I totally didn't realize the Micron's name was Lip, so I originally completely misread this as you were giving Ironhide some lipstick, as you can tell, I was confused with what this had to do with Brawn!
Lol you think like my mom!
I knew it had to be someone's name because it was capitalized. I was just wondering why his name was Lip, because like you, I didn't know that!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693766)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:39pm CDT
Lip.
Kup.
Lip ----> Kup
From lips to a cup!
Iphones are going all metaphysical on us! The first steps toward sentience before they take over.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:39pm CDT
SillySpringer wrote:Moosey wrote:Optimizzy wrote: I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
I totally didn't realize the Micron's name was Lip, so I originally completely misread this as you were giving Ironhide some lipstick, as you can tell, I was confused with what this had to do with Brawn!
Lol you think like my mom!
I knew it had to be someone's name because it was capitalized. I was just wondering why his name was Lip, because like you, I didn't know that!
Lip.
Kup.
Lip ----> Kup
From lips to a cup!
Iphones are going all metaphysical on us! The first steps toward sentience before they take over.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693769)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:42pm CDT
Why Didn't I think of that!
Maybe that is what they where thinking of! Wow!
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on June 2nd, 2015 @ 11:42pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:SillySpringer wrote:Moosey wrote:Optimizzy wrote: I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
I totally didn't realize the Micron's name was Lip, so I originally completely misread this as you were giving Ironhide some lipstick, as you can tell, I was confused with what this had to do with Brawn!
Lol you think like my mom!
I knew it had to be someone's name because it was capitalized. I was just wondering why his name was Lip, because like you, I didn't know that!
Lip.
Kup.
Lip ----> Kup
From lips to a cup!
Iphones are going all metaphysical on us! The first steps toward sentience before they take over.
Why Didn't I think of that!
Maybe that is what they where thinking of! Wow!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers TAV Shrapnel, Lockdown and Bombshell spotted at retail (1693831)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 6:16am CDT
Or you know, it could simply be that the letters at the right of both K and U on a keyboard are L and I.
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 6:16am CDT
SillySpringer wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:SillySpringer wrote:Moosey wrote:Optimizzy wrote: I re painted lip and turned him into Brawn.
I totally didn't realize the Micron's name was Lip, so I originally completely misread this as you were giving Ironhide some lipstick, as you can tell, I was confused with what this had to do with Brawn!
Lol you think like my mom!
I knew it had to be someone's name because it was capitalized. I was just wondering why his name was Lip, because like you, I didn't know that!
Lip.
Kup.
Lip ----> Kup
From lips to a cup!
Iphones are going all metaphysical on us! The first steps toward sentience before they take over.
Why Didn't I think of that!
Maybe that is what they where thinking of! Wow!
Or you know, it could simply be that the letters at the right of both K and U on a keyboard are L and I.
