Takara Tomy Transformers Power of the Primes First Line-Up Revealed
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It appears we have an answer, courtesy of Planet Iacon over on Facebook, who bring us the full list of the first releases of Power of the Prime by Takara Tomy - though yet unnamed and lacking images (the one used in the thumbnail is for illustrative purposes only) - with the PP code for every figure (much like UW for Unite Warriors, or LG for Legends)! Currently scheduled for a May 2018 release, we're bound to hear more about this in the coming months, as only three Prime Masters, three Legend class, one Deluxe and two Leaders are currently shown off. Check it out below!
Takara Transformers Power of Prime Series:
PP-01 Micronus, 800 Yen
PP-02 Liege Maximo, 800 Yen
PP-03 Vector Prime, 800 Yen
PP-04 Dinobot Slash, 1500 Yen
PP-05 Wind Charger, 1500 Yen
PP-06 Beach comber, 1500 Yen
PP-07 Autobot Jazz, 2800 Yen
PP-08 Rodimus Prime, 7000 Yen
PP-09 Optimus Prime, 7000 Yen
All scheduled to be released on May 2018
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Posted by bodrock on December 1st, 2017 @ 3:29am CST
My Platinum Grim looks interesting in alt mode, but his bot legs make Tall Man look short. If I wanted perfect, though, I'd save up for the MP.
I'm curious how PotP Grimlock will look in-hand...but I don't love his T-Rex.
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 1st, 2017 @ 6:37am CST
Legends look like they're just back by themselves going off of the price, which is slightly disappointing but since they're doing the pretenders separately there's nothing to go with them.
The lack of the other deluxe's and both voyagers still kinda gives hope for the return of unite warriors. I think they're saving the teams for that and releasing everyone else under this new subline. That would put the final nail in the coffin for a full team for jazz though.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 1st, 2017 @ 8:06am CST
steals_your_goats wrote:The lack of the other deluxe's and both voyagers still kinda gives hope for the return of unite warriors. I think they're saving the teams for that and releasing everyone else under this new subline. That would put the final nail in the coffin for a full team for jazz though.
Yeah, Jazz being solo makes me wonder if they will even touch Inferno.
Dreadwind could still end up in either this line or a UW reboot. They might just be saving him to release as a 2 pack Buster/Hydra, or they could be using those 2 as limbs for Starscream (or whatever character they will use that torso for).
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 1st, 2017 @ 8:19am CST
Skritz wrote:Well, to be fair, Sideswipe can just be a red Sunstreaker with a new head and added port for Prime Armor.
No, just no. They are brothers, but not twins. But more important than that, the Breakdown/Sunstreaker mold sucks. New line, I want new molds. So far, we have Inferno, Dreadwind and Blackwing that are based on CW molds. Dreadwind and Blackwing have enough changes to satisfy me. So, Inferno is the only one that I would consider just a lazy new head CW redeco. I really hope they keep it to only him, at least for the regular releases.
Oddly enough, I'm much more open to a lazy redeco of the new PotP molds. CW had their time, let those molds have their rest now, unless they go with a Dreadwind/Blackwing level of retooling.
Posted by Tranzilla on December 1st, 2017 @ 8:54am CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:The lack of the other deluxe's and both voyagers still kinda gives hope for the return of unite warriors. I think they're saving the teams for that and releasing everyone else under this new subline. That would put the final nail in the coffin for a full team for jazz though.
Yeah, Jazz being solo makes me wonder if they will even touch Inferno.
Dreadwind could still end up in either this line or a UW reboot. They might just be saving him to release as a 2 pack Buster/Hydra, or they could be using those 2 as limbs for Starscream (or whatever character they will use that torso for).
I wouldn't mind seeing PW Starscream retooled for Skyquake and Jazz redone as Ricochet/Stepper.
Posted by Agamemnon on December 1st, 2017 @ 9:07am CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 1st, 2017 @ 9:08am CST
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 1st, 2017 @ 9:09am CST
Those prices are surprisingly reasonable. Makes me wonder just how different these are going to be compared to the Hasbro ones...
Posted by o.supreme on December 1st, 2017 @ 9:14am CST
steals_your_goats wrote:
Those prices are surprisingly reasonable. Makes me wonder just how different these are going to be compared to the Hasbro ones...
In this particular case, I'm guessing not very different at all
Posted by durroth on December 1st, 2017 @ 9:22am CST
Posted by Skritz on December 1st, 2017 @ 10:26am CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 1st, 2017 @ 10:30am CST
I mean...if you think about it, If they are contemplating a continuation of UW...You have:
Volcanicus
Starscream Combiner
Guard City
Abominus
Elita-1 Combiner
Battle Gaia
Predaking....
If they incorporate Guard City and even Battle Gaia into the mix, these are molds they already have at their disposal to pad things out while they manufacture new ones. This would just be awesome...but all we can do is wait and see.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 1st, 2017 @ 10:42am CST
Skritz wrote:Well, it turns out that the Prime Masters differ in engineering from the Titan Masters in that they got a pin rather than a screw. Goddamn it! This may end up completely ruining my custom plans unless someone more experience than me can explain how to remove a pin. Because if that emblem part of the Prime Master can't be replaced I may end up having to use a Titan Master that doesn't match the robot mode of the Pretender character.
By pin, do you mean a rivet (with kind of a flat head)?
Some were able to "fix" Kup's and Orion Pax's leg panels by heating the rivet head with a soldering iron until the panel was able to pull out. Swapped the panels, then heated the rivet again to secure it. If the prime masters are the same way, you should be able to heat the rivet and pull the maxtrix/face off the back and the pin out the front.
It may just work pretty well, especially if you want to use a TR face. It would depend on the hole size for the rivet versus the screw in the master's body. If you get lucky and things match up, then you should be able to screw the TM face on through the PM body and not have to use the rivet to secure it.
Posted by Skritz on December 1st, 2017 @ 10:44am CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Skritz wrote:Well, it turns out that the Prime Masters differ in engineering from the Titan Masters in that they got a pin rather than a screw. Goddamn it! This may end up completely ruining my custom plans unless someone more experience than me can explain how to remove a pin. Because if that emblem part of the Prime Master can't be replaced I may end up having to use a Titan Master that doesn't match the robot mode of the Pretender character.
By pin, do you mean a rivet (with kind of a flat head)?
Some were able to "fix" Kup's and Orion Pax's leg panels by heating the rivet head with a soldering iron until the panel was able to pull out. Swapped the panels, then heated the rivet again to secure it. If the prime masters are the same way, you should be able to heat the rivet and pull the maxtrix/face off the back and the pin out the front.
It may just work pretty well, especially if you want to use a TR face. It would depend on the hole size for the rivet versus the screw in the master's body. If you get lucky and things match up, then you should be able to screw the TM face on through the PM body and not have to use the rivet to secure it.
I'm not really an expert, hell, I'm a noob at customizing and all that engineering so see for yourself.
Posted by Evil Eye on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:08am CST
Skritz wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Skritz wrote:Well, it turns out that the Prime Masters differ in engineering from the Titan Masters in that they got a pin rather than a screw. Goddamn it! This may end up completely ruining my custom plans unless someone more experience than me can explain how to remove a pin. Because if that emblem part of the Prime Master can't be replaced I may end up having to use a Titan Master that doesn't match the robot mode of the Pretender character.
By pin, do you mean a rivet (with kind of a flat head)?
Some were able to "fix" Kup's and Orion Pax's leg panels by heating the rivet head with a soldering iron until the panel was able to pull out. Swapped the panels, then heated the rivet again to secure it. If the prime masters are the same way, you should be able to heat the rivet and pull the maxtrix/face off the back and the pin out the front.
It may just work pretty well, especially if you want to use a TR face. It would depend on the hole size for the rivet versus the screw in the master's body. If you get lucky and things match up, then you should be able to screw the TM face on through the PM body and not have to use the rivet to secure it.
I'm not really an expert, hell, I'm a noob at customizing and all that engineering so see for yourself.
Oh man, that really, REALLY sucks.
I have to say, between the cheap-looking Dinobots and their horrendous combined mode, the appalling leader classes, the atrocity that is Starscream, and now the non-customizable Prime Masters, this line looks like it's going to be a disaster. The only things I'm looking forward to now are the Terrorcons and Moonracer.
Posted by Skritz on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:15am CST
Edit: In case anyone wonder, I got a spare Triggerhappy, Misfire and Quake to make into Bomb-Burst, Submarauder (once the wings are removed) and Skullgrin. My original intent was to unscrew the Prime Master's backback and replace it with a 3d printed face but Hasbro just had to be douche. One has to wonder if it isn't deliberate because they don't want people to make customs. Which, if you ask me, is nonsense because customs generally require you to buy spare figures to hack apart and repaint. Hence, more sales. But big companies are generally stupid.
Posted by Rated X on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:24am CST
o.supreme wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:
Those prices are surprisingly reasonable. Makes me wonder just how different these are going to be compared to the Hasbro ones...
In this particular case, I'm guessing not very different at all
I agree. We could very well be seeing repeat of the Takara Trypticon syndrome where you are just paying for the same exact figure in a nicer box. The $65 leader class prices are especially suspect since Legends Overlord costs almost $100 on preorder. The good news is money saved. The bad news is we might not be getting the Leader figures in awesome shiny decos without the crappy grey plastic. I was planning to skip the Hasbro for those particulary. As far as the absence of the Dinobots in the preorders and the possible continuation of the unite warriors line, I would say pay close attention to Takaras deco for Slash. Whatever she gets is highly likely the other Dinobots will get. If she is chromed out, expect Diaclone Dinobots. G2 Dinobots might also be a possibility considering they are going G2 to release the Megatron mold.
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:43am CST
Not everything is some anti fan conspiracy guys.
Posted by Skritz on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:45am CST
steals_your_goats wrote:Not everything is some anti fan conspiracy guys.
Where did I even imply that?
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:48am CST
Skritz wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Not everything is some anti fan conspiracy guys.
Where did I even imply that?
Skritz wrote: but Hasbro just had to be douche. One has to wonder if it isn't deliberate because they don't want people to make customs. But big companies are generally stupid.
Posted by Evil Eye on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:50am CST
steals_your_goats wrote:Yes God forbid a company not want their products to be bastardized and mutilated.
Why would Hasbro care if I buy a Prime Master and swap out the core panel (or just take it apart to repaint it)? A sale is a sale.
How dare they the more logical and less "Hur dur hasblow" answer is it's most likely cheaper or easier to manufacture that way.
I'm no engineer but I'm pretty sure a rivet is more expensive and labour intensive than a screw.
Not everything is some anti fan conspiracy guys.
Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.
Posted by Skritz on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:55am CST
steals_your_goats wrote:Skritz wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Not everything is some anti fan conspiracy guys.
Where did I even imply that?Skritz wrote: but Hasbro just had to be douche. One has to wonder if it isn't deliberate because they don't want people to make customs. But big companies are generally stupid.
I would not call that a 'conspiracy', for crying out loud. This is about on par with some videogame companies being against modding.
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 1st, 2017 @ 12:00pm CST
Skritz wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Skritz wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:Not everything is some anti fan conspiracy guys.
Where did I even imply that?Skritz wrote: but Hasbro just had to be douche. One has to wonder if it isn't deliberate because they don't want people to make customs. But big companies are generally stupid.
I would not call that a 'conspiracy', for crying out loud. This is about on par with some videogame companies being against modding.
There is zero proof that this was a deliberate move against customizers. You're just making shit up to be mad about.
Posted by Skritz on December 1st, 2017 @ 12:20pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 1st, 2017 @ 12:25pm CST
Posted by RodimusRex on December 1st, 2017 @ 1:22pm CST
I would also be very surprised if Takara uses stickers and if Optimus isn't lighter/brighter with blue hands and some extra silver paint.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 1st, 2017 @ 3:21pm CST
Not just with how they're handling the line, but it remains to be seen how they're handling the names as the current Legends line and Unite Warriors had both US and Japanese names. For those curious:
- Jazz: Meister
- Windcharger: Charger
- Rodimus Prime: Rodimus Convoy
- Optimus Prime: Convoy
Posted by Prime Target on December 1st, 2017 @ 3:23pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 1st, 2017 @ 5:10pm CST
As for the combiners, I do feel like it would be a good time for Takara to bring back Unite Warriors for a second round. There is plenty of ground yet to cover with classic G1 combiners and the new combiners from the Power of the Primes line, as well as the opportunity for more "EX" releases to cover repaints like Guard City and Battle Gaia.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on December 1st, 2017 @ 6:46pm CST
Black Hat wrote:I have to say, between the cheap-looking Dinobots and their horrendous combined mode, the appalling leader classes, the atrocity that is Starscream, and now the non-customizable Prime Masters, this line looks like it's going to be a disaster. The only things I'm looking forward to now are the Terrorcons and Moonracer.
Lol you got a lot to complain about.
Edit: I love to customize my toys, and I'm not extremely upset about the Prime Masters having pins instead of screws. Hell, they're not even supposed to become heads anyway. That's only a bonus option. For what they're meant to be used for, it kinda makes the point of the screw irrelevant.
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on December 1st, 2017 @ 6:48pm CST
ChErikS, wrote:So guess who arrived today. Was very excited to get him as when I saw an early version of the figure I was amazed and thought this would be my new favorite Generations Starscream, after having him in hand I have found him to be less impressive.
Here are his included accessories. His power core is referred to as the Seeker Enigma.
His robot mode is certainly where he shines. Great articulation and appearance, though he has some seriously huge boots. I didn't love the way his cannons mounted on his shoulders, but actually far preferred it when I used the combiner feet instead. It reminds me a lot of Cybertron Starscream in this configuration.
He is covered in pre-applied stickers and several are done fairly poorly. Note his feet where the stickers do not lay flat due to the detail molding beneath them:
Transformation to jet is fairly simplistic, in fact I think some people will find it way too simplistic for a voyager figure. Tabbing his wings in perfectly is a real challenge and I gave up in frustration after a few minutes.
Finally there is his combiner mode. It is actually surprisingly stable, though rather convoluted to arrive to. He is sporting his classic Starscream crown. Also his instructions only refer to this as his super robot mode, doesn't seem to have its own name and uses the deluxe wave one bots as his limbs.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachmen ... .27861212/
He will be staying in his bot mode on my shelf as that is what I am happiest with by far.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on December 1st, 2017 @ 6:53pm CST
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on December 1st, 2017 @ 7:02pm CST
Now we just need a voyager Shockwave, and maybe a new voyager Soundwave to replace that weird elongated torso Soundwave from FoC. Oh yeah and a voyager Ironhide and Ratchet would make me happy too.
Posted by william-james88 on December 1st, 2017 @ 10:02pm CST
SillyMcGilly wrote:I'm just thankful we now have a voyager Starscream with a nice robot mode.
I am still waiting for one
Only problem to me is he's probably not gonna be redone into Skywarp and Thundercracker because of his scale.
I dont see how scale changed anything. Every other Generations Starscream got recoloured into those two other seekers and the scales were all over the place.
Plus, we have a listing for a TRU exclusive Thundercraker so I think both the redecos will be store exclusives.
So you may get your wish
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Posted by william-james88 on December 1st, 2017 @ 10:18pm CST
The great take away from this is that Toysrus has recieved a shipment of Power of the Primes Wave 1 Deluxes and Legends. It is unknown if this first shipment only contained what was sold online or if it also contained stock for their brick and mortar stores, which would currently be on their way and possibly show up on shelves soon. So let us know if you do find these toys in Toysrus stores in the sightings section and your local sightings thread.
We thank Bucky for having reached out to let us know of these listings.
Posted by Flashwave on December 1st, 2017 @ 10:28pm CST
Relative scale aside I love these Dinobots. Would I prefer bigger and more intimidating scale? Sure. But these giys are fun toys.
And Slag has a great 5mm prg hole.
Posted by hurricane567 on December 1st, 2017 @ 10:44pm CST
Windcharger only, S&H is still $6, for an $8 item. Pass.
Posted by Seibertron on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:03pm CST
hurricane567 wrote:Windcharger+Steelbane, S&H is $6
Windcharger only, S&H is still $6, for an $8 item. Pass.
Or it's free shipping if you order $29 worth of products, which is a great deal especially at the discounted prices.
Posted by Flashwave on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:52pm CST
hurricane567 wrote:Windcharger+Steelbane, S&H is $6
Windcharger only, S&H is still $6, for an $8 item. Pass.
You gotta remember Priority Mail is the lowest option they will go and even that minimum is 5 bucks. The extra dollar is packagung cost rounded up. First Class Mail is fine person to person but its not as gairenteed safe as Priority so a business wont touch it. Its also hy I o verything I can to NOT have to ship PRIORITY when I ell on Eay, when I can stuff a small Priority box into a manila bhubnle packer and come in $3 cheaper you better believe I am gonna do it.
Posted by boyatlarge on December 1st, 2017 @ 11:59pm CST
Posted by Flashwave on December 2nd, 2017 @ 12:01am CST
boyatlarge wrote:I got all of the PotP deluxes and legends class figures at Target easily. For those of you who don't already know how to do this, another thread listed the DPCI codes or all of the sets at Target. Go to any Target Inventory checker sites and enter the code and your zip code and it will show you if your store has it in stock. I saw that my nearest store had the deluxes in stock and when I got there and they were not on the shelf, I found an employee, showed him the DPCI code and he went in the back and found a case and I was able to get Jazz, Slug, Swoop, and Dreadwind. I then saw that a Target about 15 miles out had the legends and did the same thing there and was able to pick up Slash, Windcharger, and Beachcomber. Anyway, for those still looking, if you can find the DPCI codes (I can't remember which thread had them listed now) and Google a Target Inventory Checker site, this may help you get your hands on the ones that have shipped to your nearest stores. Good luck.
Tried that. None of my stores had them may have gotten picked by other collectors. Got my Drluxes though when HTS had them. The Voyagers and Legends are reserved on Amazon. If I find them before the 1tth, cancelling is not hard. If I don't, thrn I am set
Posted by Aimless Misfire on December 2nd, 2017 @ 7:24am CST
Posted by Agamemnon on December 2nd, 2017 @ 9:13am CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:Hasbrotoyshop & Toys R Us gets them in stock. I check that same day & they're already sold out. I'm pretty sure they only got 1 **** case in. Just like when my Walmarts get anything in, they only get 1 case. I'm just gonna order from ebay or Amazon & skip the frustration & hassle.
BBTS might be a cheaper option than either Amazon or eBay. I haven't checked recently, so I don't know for sure what these are going for in the jungle or bay.
Posted by Skritz on December 2nd, 2017 @ 10:30am CST
Posted by Super Megatron on December 2nd, 2017 @ 2:02pm CST
Posted by Skritz on December 2nd, 2017 @ 2:39pm CST
Posted by AutobotDad on December 2nd, 2017 @ 3:37pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 2nd, 2017 @ 8:15pm CST
Aimless Misfire wrote:Hasbrotoyshop & Toys R Us gets them in stock. I check that same day & they're already sold out. I'm pretty sure they only got 1 **** case in. Just like when my Walmarts get anything in, they only get 1 case. I'm just gonna order from ebay or Amazon & skip the frustration & hassle.
We should all remember that these toys were not supposed to come out until December/January. Any case found out there before then is sheer dumb luck and so far these have not been found at the biggest toy retailer in the US (volume wise, which is Walmart) nor have these been found in any other country in the world. So we really should relax. its wave 1, the wave most ordered. Anyone remember when no one was finding Triggerhappy? I remember people being as desperate as Jennifer Connely in Requiem for a Dream, but now that toy is everywhere.
Posted by william-james88 on December 2nd, 2017 @ 8:34pm CST
However, saltcandyHakata on Twitter, has found an alternate configuration by playing around with Voyager Grimlock and the only two released deluxe Dinobots so far, Swoop and Slug. They have found that combiner fists can connect to the bottom of Grimlock's feet, meaning that you can extend the dino legs as smaller combiner arms and simply plug in the fists. This makes for a much less bulky combiner and fun option configuration to have while waiting for the rest of the team to complete the combiner. More than that, it shows the possibility of this combining system having a decent looking combiner made from just three robots. Road Caesar anyone?
Posted by Super Megatron on December 2nd, 2017 @ 8:39pm CST