Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG09 Brainstorm, LG08 Swerve and Tailgate - Better Quality Images

So that's why Hasbro spruced up Tailgate's altmode with blue flames. Takara's is practically naked!

Other than that, I frankly can't see too many differences between these and the Hasbro versions.

So Takara's Tailgate is even whiter.

Tsss.

Bunch of racists.

His car mode (Tailgate) was all white in the G1 series so maybe a homage?

fenrir72 wrote:His car mode (Tailgate) was all white in the G1 series so maybe a homage?

Yeah, but that version had its black windows to provide color contrast. The silver/gray windows on this figure blend too much into the white body.

UGH. Other than the articulated head, nothing about 2014 Arcana is better than 1987 Arcana. The arms on the 2014 version....just big chunks of plastic with his arms molded into them....just..no. And while I obviously haven't seen how the Headmaster connection is made, Arcana's head being on a ball joint really worries me as far as durability if it's similar to how it was in 1987. Still, Brainstorm himself is a great figure.

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:His car mode (Tailgate) was all white in the G1 series so maybe a homage?

Yeah, but that version had its black windows to provide color contrast. The silver/gray windows on this figure blend too much into the white body.

Yep. I'll be taking some black glossy paint to the windows/windshields on mine to more closely replicate his G1 look and make him look less bland. I've got the Hasbro version in my POL, but I'll probably be giving him the G1 treatment, eliminating the flames and blacking out the glass. That, or I'll snag the Takara version and black it out.

Either way, my point is someone's getting blacked out whether they like it or not .

I will pass on all of these. The Scout Class minibots are out of scale with the rest of the Classics line-up. This in my opinion is unforgiveable.

Classics Headmasters is what i have wanted for many years.....and this figure is just terrible. The sculpt is mediocre at best, details are non-existent and the Headmaster unit is poorly executed and a step down from the G1 versions.

So i will gladly stick with Fansproject to satisfy my Headmaster needs.

I thought about getting Brainstorm -- I never had a headmaster. Plus, he's one of my favourite characters from "Rebirth" -- he's got Wheeljack's innovation combined with Sideswipe's enthusiasm. (which makes Michael Bell the perfect voice actor for him.)

But the Nebulan mode doesn't look that great... size limitations perhaps? On the other hand the head and the Autobot look pretty good though.

Wonder if he can transform without removing the head.. probably not?

DMSL wrote:I will pass on all of these. The Scout Class minibots are out of scale with the rest of the Classics line-up. This in my opinion is unforgiveable.

Do you believe them to be too big, or too small?

Sabrblade wrote:So that's why Hasbro spruced up Tailgate's altmode with blue flames. Takara's is practically naked!

I'd take this version...if the windows were black. It just looks unpainted without any contrast.

Brainstorm looks meh, Hasbro's is more IDW accurate. But we do get to see the headmaster unit in detail. Pretty cute, really worried about the headmaster's head becoming loose and popping the socket.

Madeus Prime wrote:Brainstorm looks meh, Hasbro's is more IDW accurate.

There appear to be no differences between the Hasbro and Takara Brainstorms.

So, wait...aren't these still just mock-ups digitally altered (at least in Tailgate's case), of the Hasbro production units?

Wolfman Jake wrote:So, wait...aren't these still just mock-ups digitally altered (at least in Tailgate's case), of the Hasbro production units?

It's weird. The first pics we got had text at the bottom that said that these were the "foreign versions", yet here we get big sized official pics that look exactly the same.

Either Takara's figures are no different from Hasbro's versions (barring Tailgate's blue flames being removed), or something's up here.

Cyberpath wrote:I thought about getting Brainstorm -- I never had a headmaster. Plus, he's one of my favourite characters from "Rebirth" -- he's got Wheeljack's innovation combined with Sideswipe's enthusiasm. (which makes Michael Bell the perfect voice actor for him.)

But the Nebulan mode doesn't look that great... size limitations perhaps? On the other hand the head and the Autobot look pretty good though.

Wonder if he can transform without removing the head.. probably not?

It would look awkward with the jet having a kibble on his butt. Arcana in the USA version was the pilot while Brainstorm was kind of like KITT when in vehicle mode. I Japan, the heads weren't merged personalities but one individual and the vehicle was inert until merged with a "master". It was the Powermasters had that feature that you need the figure in engine mode to unlock the 'bot mode or put pressure on the locking tabs. The headmasters of old had the built in tech spec meter as a gimmick.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:So, wait...aren't these still just mock-ups digitally altered (at least in Tailgate's case), of the Hasbro production units?

It's weird. The first pics we got had text at the bottom that said that these were the "foreign versions", yet here we get big sized official pics that look exactly the same.

Either Takara's figures are no different from Hasbro's versions (barring Tailgate's blue flames being removed), or something's up here.

I doubt they're exactly the same... Takara's figures rarely are.

this is springer all over again. those two were barely different. theyll have to be side by side to find the differences.

To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

-Kanrabat- wrote:To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

Guess it depends on how much you want the extra paint apps.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

Guess it depends on how much you want the extra paint apps.

Also, what will be the pricetag of the Takara one with shipping? The Canadian one is likely to cost around 70$ with the taxes. So...

Also, this is my 2500th post!

-Kanrabat- wrote:To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

I'm going with the Takara one, because the red chrome on the Hasbro version doesn't look right to me.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

I'm going with the Takara one, because the red chrome on the Hasbro version doesn't look right to me.

The chrome can be removed. There's red plastic underneath it.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

I'm going with the Takara one, because the red chrome on the Hasbro version doesn't look right to me.

The chrome can be removed. There's red plastic underneath it.

How to remove chrome without destroying anything?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

I'm going with the Takara one, because the red chrome on the Hasbro version doesn't look right to me.

The chrome can be removed. There's red plastic underneath it.

How to remove chrome without destroying anything?

Super Clean available at your local Target/Walmart/etc. type of stores for about 6 bucks.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

I'm going with the Takara one, because the red chrome on the Hasbro version doesn't look right to me.

The chrome can be removed. There's red plastic underneath it.

How to remove chrome without destroying anything?

Super Clean available at your local Target/Walmart/etc. type of stores for about 6 bucks.

Woah! Talk about effective! I don't know if we have that specific product in Canada, but I'm gonna try it with Hertel or something.

I wonder if brainstorm will get a repaint or remold, and if so into who?

ausbot wrote:I wonder if brainstorm will get a repaint or remold, and if so into who?

I wonder what the Cloud line might use him for.

Sabrblade wrote:

ausbot wrote:I wonder if brainstorm will get a repaint or remold, and if so into who?

I wonder what the Cloud line might use him for.

The Cloud line is complete, no new figures. All 8 figures are now known, and we've known from the start that's all it'll have.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ausbot wrote:I wonder if brainstorm will get a repaint or remold, and if so into who?

I wonder what the Cloud line might use him for.

The Cloud line is complete, no new figures. All 8 figures are now known, and we've known from the start that's all it'll have.

I though it was said somewhere that there'd be a final fifth wave.

EDIT: And now I can't find anything on that, so Wave 4 might indeed be the end.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

ausbot wrote:I wonder if brainstorm will get a repaint or remold, and if so into who?

I wonder what the Cloud line might use him for.

The Cloud line is complete, no new figures. All 8 figures are now known, and we've known from the start that's all it'll have.

I though it was said somewhere that there'd be a final fifth wave.

A surprise wave? Weird, the Cloud site only mentions the 4.

I edited my post.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

DMSL wrote:I will pass on all of these. The Scout Class minibots are out of scale with the rest of the Classics line-up. This in my opinion is unforgiveable.

Do you believe them to be too big, or too small?

In my opinion they are too small.

Scale has always been an issue with Transformers in G1. It's about time we moved passed that.

DMSL wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

DMSL wrote:I will pass on all of these. The Scout Class minibots are out of scale with the rest of the Classics line-up. This in my opinion is unforgiveable.

Do you believe them to be too big, or too small?

In my opinion they are too small.

Scale has always been an issue with Transformers in G1. It's about time we moved passed that.

Meaning Hasbro should finally set up a standard size for their TF line? Wouldn't cost/design factors also have to be taken into consideration?

fenrir72 wrote:

DMSL wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

DMSL wrote:I will pass on all of these. The Scout Class minibots are out of scale with the rest of the Classics line-up. This in my opinion is unforgiveable.

Do you believe them to be too big, or too small?

In my opinion they are too small.

Scale has always been an issue with Transformers in G1. It's about time we moved passed that.

Meaning Hasbro should finally set up a standard size for their TF line? Wouldn't cost/design factors also have to be taken into consideration?

That would be tough though. I would like my vehicles to be in scale but then again i see tailgate as a small guy you know. So i would prefer if he were small.
Plus, there's always that 'small car, giant jet' thing, which means starscream would tower over any of the cars.

As for Brainstorm's repaint/remold? What about Dreadwing or even Darkwing.
Really like these though, but apart from tailgate, hasbro's look fine enough.

Scale? In Transformers? Surely you jest.

Sabrblade wrote:Scale? In Transformers? Surely you jest.

I raise you with this:



Everybody on screen are inside Astrotrain, even a fully formed Devastator in TF The Movie. For those who dont know, In robot mode, Astrotrain is the size of a standard seeker.

Well we got in-hand images of Cloud Shockwave from eBay seller lena81822, how about some new images of the Takara version the mold Cloud Shockwave came from? Today we get to see the first in-hand images of the Takara Legends Whirl! Can you spot the differences? Which version do you prefer? Let us know what you think in our forums here.

i like it. but the knee joints dont really make me want to gamble on this mold a second time.

DMSL wrote:Scale has always been an issue with Transformers [since] G1. It's about time we moved passed that.

It looks goofy as hell. Kinda neat..... but in a goofy way. Pass. He's got a pony tail.

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:To buy the Takara version of Leader Jetfire or not... That is the question...

I'm going with the Takara one, because the red chrome on the Hasbro version doesn't look right to me.

The chrome can be removed. There's red plastic underneath it.

I'd rather keep my figures as unaltered as possible, for collectability and potential resellability. That's why it's the Takara version of leader Jetfire for me!

Thanks to Taghobby we get some new Figure King magazine images of Legends Brainstorm, Swerve and Tailgate. In this scan you can see that Legends Brainstorm has replaced a lot of the grays in the Hasbro version with blacks and the red and blue on Legends Swerve and Tailgate is darker as well. Let us know what you think of these differences in the Seibertron.com forums here and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

And no attention for the two campaigns in the same images?

The first with the clocks (yes, clock, 25cm or 10 inches in diameter) seems to be exclusive to the ever-popular (and often rigged) Crane Games, while the ones with the weapons is exclusive to Lost Age. They are:

Ptera Spear: repainted from Prime Knock Out's weapon
Spino Hammer: repainted from BH Deluxe Twinstrike's weapon
Tricera Mace: repainted from BH Deluxe Windrazor's weapon
Prime Axe: repainted from BH Dreadwing's melee weapon.

It's 2014 and headmasters still don't have individually poseable legs.

What Optimus Primal is that?

rpetras wrote:What Optimus Primal is that?

The 10th Anniversary retool of Ultra Optimus Primal.

rpetras wrote:What Optimus Primal is that?

the original ultra sized mold, and i believe its the reborn/10th remold (new robot head, monkey face, and chest plate).

Swerve's Targetmaster has been changed into Phaser, and his gun mode is painted to resemble the My First Blaster.

Sabrblade wrote:Swerve's Targetmaster has been changed into Phaser, and his gun mode is painted to resemble the My First Blaster.

Good eye on the My First Blaster. And in case someone's wondering who this Phaser is, he's a G1 Micromaster Combiner. His partner is Blast Master, now known as Payload.


Left: Blast Master, Right: Phaser

legends brainstorm? how intriguing hopefully we will see other legends size head masters

Ultra Markus wrote:legends brainstorm? how intriguing hopefully we will see other legends size head masters

Actually, it's the Voyager figure. Takara is currently calling their Generations line "Legends"