Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte

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Site sponsor Robotkingdom just reported and put up pre-orders for the next two releases of Takara Tomy's Transformers Legends line. Sky-Byte will be LG-06 and Jetfire will be LG-07. Both due to be released in December of this year. While the images provided is small and may vary from the final product, it looks like in a strange turn of events Takara's Jetfire will have a flat red color and lose all the chrome from the Hasbro version.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1596986)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:28am CDT

Sky-Byte has the asymmetrically-colored torso the original had, more paint apps on his legs, and blue missile instead of yellow.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1596990)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:42am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Sky-Byte has the asymmetrically-colored torso the original had, more paint apps on his legs, and blue missile instead of yellow.

Furthermore, it looks like they'll continue to use the Japanese names like they did for Primal and Rattrap. So it may not be Sky-Byte, but Gelshark.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1596993)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:59am CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Sky-Byte has the asymmetrically-colored torso the original had, more paint apps on his legs, and blue missile instead of yellow.

Furthermore, it looks like they'll continue to use the Japanese names like they did for Primal and Rattrap. So it may not be Sky-Byte, but Gelshark.

Oh, is he called Gelshark? I couldn't tell from the tiny pic.

What about Jetfire? Is his name the same or are they going with the "Skyfire" name?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1596998)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:05am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Sky-Byte has the asymmetrically-colored torso the original had, more paint apps on his legs, and blue missile instead of yellow.

Furthermore, it looks like they'll continue to use the Japanese names like they did for Primal and Rattrap. So it may not be Sky-Byte, but Gelshark.
Oh, is he called Gelshark? I couldn't tell from the tiny pic.

What about Jetfire? Is his name the same or are they going with the "Skyfire" name?

I think they're going with Jetfire this time around. The Japanese text just describes the figure, but the first paragraph tells what characters the figures are based on, "Jetfire from the cartoon" and "2000, Galshark from Car Robot" in a sense.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1596999)
Posted by mooncake623 on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:07am CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Sky-Byte has the asymmetrically-colored torso the original had, more paint apps on his legs, and blue missile instead of yellow.

Furthermore, it looks like they'll continue to use the Japanese names like they did for Primal and Rattrap. So it may not be Sky-Byte, but Gelshark.
Oh, is he called Gelshark? I couldn't tell from the tiny pic.

What about Jetfire? Is his name the same or are they going with the "Skyfire" name?

I think they're going with Jetfire this time around. The Japanese text just describes the figure, but the first paragraph tells what characters the figures are based on, "Jetfire from the cartoon" and "2000, Galshark from Car Robot" in a sense.

You can read the text? it's so small..

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597024)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on August 6th, 2014 @ 11:41am CDT

I like Jetfire's stuff better without the chrome "bling" but not so much better that I'd pay import prices and wait until December or whatever.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597028)
Posted by User897 on August 6th, 2014 @ 11:57am CDT

Anyone know of the best choice for a retailer to get Jetfire to the USA? BBTS seems a bit high.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597056)
Posted by Mindmaster on August 6th, 2014 @ 12:59pm CDT

Jetfire looks better without the chrome, but I think I'll stick with the domestic release here in the States.

Sky-Byte/Gelshark looks incredible! The darker blue and silver paint on the side of the shark look so much better. Might invest on Takara's version rather than the Hasbro version.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597061)
Posted by shajaki on August 6th, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT

Mindmaster wrote:Sky-Byte/Gelshark looks incredible! The darker blue and silver paint on the side of the shark look so much better. Might invest on Takara's version rather than the Hasbro version.

*agrees*
gotta say, i was indifferent about hasbros skybyte but would have got him anyways because the character was so great. but now i actually want him.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597099)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on August 6th, 2014 @ 3:26pm CDT

The Takara Tomy Twitter has released images of the transformers legends Rattle / Rattrap package

According to my loose translation of japanese,
【ラットル】なに～オイラが本物のおもちゃになっちゃった！で、でも、このパッケージ最高にイカす！！し、しかもキャラごとに特別マンガも付録するのか！？こりゃ10月発売待ちきれないよ～(>_<)　

The Takara tomy production team is excited for the toy, as well as the special packaging. With each figure will be a manga/ comic related to each character, They can't wait for the figure to release in october.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597113)
Posted by Va'al on August 6th, 2014 @ 4:35pm CDT

Thanks to a tip from fellow Seibertron.com user SW's SilverHammer, we have mirrored below the in-package image of LG01 Rattle (Rattrap) that the Takara Transformers account tweeted earlier today, showing off the new box for the line, which will include redecos of older figures such as Optimus Primal, and newer Generations such as Tankor, Whirl and Roadbuster (and Sky-Byte). Check it out, and compare it to the Hasbro version here!

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597125)
Posted by XDMan on August 6th, 2014 @ 5:27pm CDT

I would imagine Rattrap being stolen in stores. We need...A Better Mousetrap.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597126)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 6th, 2014 @ 5:44pm CDT

I'm going to jump on that Takara Jetfire for sure. Once pre-orders go up at TFSource, I'm taking the Hasbro version off my pre-order stack. The flat red paint apps look a lot better than the red chrome overload on the Hasbro version IMO.

Is Rattrap really any different from the Hasbro version?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597130)
Posted by Peridot on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:17pm CDT

XDMan wrote:I would imagine Rattrap being stolen in stores. We need...A Better Mousetrap.

I don't think Rattrap is actually going to be packaged like that. The way he's displayed in the photo wouldn't really fit on store shelves. Plus, he's not even secured in the box.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597131)
Posted by Tigertrack on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT

Metro Prime wrote:
XDMan wrote:I would imagine Rattrap being stolen in stores. We need...A Better Mousetrap.

I don't think Rattrap is actually going to be packaged like that. The way he's displayed in the photo wouldn't really fit on store shelves. Plus, he's not even secured in the box.

I was thinking he same thing man. Box instead of card though is cool.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597139)
Posted by Optimizzy on August 6th, 2014 @ 6:45pm CDT

Tigertrack wrote: Box instead of card though is cool.

Yeah, if you hate the Earth

Serious question though: Why are Takara's packaging so wildly different than Hasbro's? Have all of the generations toys been boxed?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597141)
Posted by shajaki on August 6th, 2014 @ 7:09pm CDT

boxed! i love it! its like original takara beast wars were.

and just cause hes not secured in the box doesnt mean its not official. could just be a mock up.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597174)
Posted by RSDADDIMUS2 on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:30pm CDT

RatTrap and Inferno were my 2 favorites along with Megs.That's a snazzy figure. I may just want one. :HEADHURTS:

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597175)
Posted by megatronus on August 6th, 2014 @ 9:30pm CDT

Very reminiscent of the original Beast Wars packaging! Simply a nice throwback

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597191)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:11pm CDT

kinda funny that when Takara puts chrome on a figure that hasbro doesn't, people are all like "OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! it has chrome!!!!!!!!! :KREMZEEK:

Hasbro suks and Takara rulz", and then when the opposite happens people be like "eh I could do without the chrome".

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597198)
Posted by megatronus on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:29pm CDT

LOST Cybertronian wrote:kinda funny that when Takara puts chrome on a figure that hasbro doesn't, people are all like "OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! it has chrome!!!!!!!!! Hasbro suks and Takara rulz", and then when the opposite happens people be like "eh I could do without the chrome".

I dunno... I think it depends on the situation.

I haven't seen many (or maybe even any) complaints about most of the AoE chromed stuff, like the Platinum Edition OP & Grimlock 2-pack, or the OP Evolution 2-pack, or the SDCC Dinobots, etc. Even the AoE Leader Prime's chrome is fairly well placed.

Jetfire's chrome isn't just an accent... it comprises a large part of the toy. Especially against a white background, it's a lot. I personally don't really mind it, but probably could have gone for more black on the weapons to break them up a bit.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597200)
Posted by xyl360 on August 6th, 2014 @ 10:51pm CDT

LOST Cybertronian wrote:kinda funny that when Takara puts chrome on a figure that hasbro doesn't, people are all like "OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! it has chrome!!!!!!!!! Hasbro suks and Takara rulz", and then when the opposite happens people be like "eh I could do without the chrome".

Eh, what toys are you talking about, because I don't know of any main line Takara figures to use any chrome on them other than Convoy and his variants (for the grill and bumper) since the original Henkei Henkei figures. My praise of Takara's figures has almost always been due to the use of metallic paint (BIG difference between metallic and chrome) and the sheer number of paint apps (like painting in headlights/tail lights and other details that are molded in but conspicuously unpainted in the Hasbro variants from time to time).

Regarding Jetfire, I'm with the others here. I'm going for the Takara version. I preordered it when I saw it come up on BBTS earlier today and I cancelled my preorder for the Hasbro version. Had Hasbro covered all the red bits with red chrome it may have been worth it, but mixing chrome with a different type of paint for details that are supposed to match doesn't look too good in my opinion (I wasn't a big fan of some of the Henkei Henkei figures with their one-off chrome bits either for the very same reason as it just looked out of place).

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597218)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2014 @ 11:38pm CDT

Optimizzy wrote:Serious question though: Why are Takara's packaging so wildly different than Hasbro's? Have all of the generations toys been boxed?

This is a different line that Generations for Japan. In Japan, the Generations line has been long over. Back when it was in effect, it used a packaging style that look very similar to Hasbro's Generations packaging. But now that Generations is over in Japan, they're starting a new line for the remaining Generations toys to be sold in Japan, which will be known as the Transformers: Legends line. And with a new line comes new packaging.

As for the box-style packaging instead of carded packaging, in this case, it's a homage to the Japanese Beast Wars packaging from the late 90's, which also used boxes instead of cards.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597310)
Posted by mooncake623 on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:30am CDT

Following yesterday's announcement of Takara's Legends Jetfire & Sky-Byte we have Larger images provided to us by the Agabyss Twitter page. Looks like this confirms our guesses of Jetfire loseing all the red chrome in favor of a flat red color, and Sky-Byte having extra paint applications. We've mirrored the images below.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597314)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:37am CDT

COME ON TAKARA! Repaint Sky-Byte into Cybershark! Please!!!!

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597316)
Posted by megatronus on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:38am CDT

mooncake623 wrote:Following yesterday's announcement of Takara's Legends Jetfire & Sky-Byte we have Larger images provided to us by the Agabyss Twitter page. Looks like this confirms our guesses of Jetfire loseing all the red chrome in favor of a flat red color, and Sky-Byte having extra paint applications. We've mirrored the images below.

Considering that Jetfire - looks real nice with the black details on the guns.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597325)
Posted by shajaki on August 7th, 2014 @ 11:05am CDT

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:COME ON TAKARA! Repaint Sky-Byte into Cybershark! Please!!!!

im hoping that too. you gotta figure, if theres a chance they can repaint a toy into anything else that theyll do it. it all equals money to them.

jetfires jetfires jetfires.....
honestly im getting both. because who knows which one ill like better in hand, and it wont kill me to have two

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597366)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 7th, 2014 @ 1:00pm CDT

Extra apps on the guns, red stripes on his chest and autobot sigil with white highlights. Nice!

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597372)
Posted by reluctantyouth on August 7th, 2014 @ 1:56pm CDT

Bravo Takara!!!

So interesting that Hasbro goes shiny chrome and Takara goes old school. I like this version much better and have pre-ordered 2 from TFSource.com. The figures are also listed on BBTS.com and are a dollar cheaper than TFSource. I went for the free shipping when ordering two as it was $151.90 through Source.

I figure this is a solid investment and would rather put my money into a well thought out old school homage than what Hasbro will be giving us. December cannot come soon enough for this great representation!!

Now to Amazon to cancel my Hasbro edition pre-order. Reprolabels could jazz up the Hasbro version but cannot cover up that stupid shiny chrome.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597446)
Posted by Rated X on August 7th, 2014 @ 4:26pm CDT

Looks way better than the Hasbro chrome version. But I still cant seem to pull the trigger on this mold. I hate that fake cockpit and stupid out of scale Macross jet mode. Im waiting on that Mech Form Sky Guardian.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597519)
Posted by WildclawPrime on August 7th, 2014 @ 9:40pm CDT

Still some great upcoming figures for this year. Why is it that Takara has the better paint schemes then the Hasbro releases? Maybe of course it's because either Hasbro is lazy at times, or they just have some bizarre choices. Still, the US versions of Jetfire and Sky-Byte look decent With a few exceptions, I'm really liking the Generations line this year.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597539)
Posted by megatronus on August 7th, 2014 @ 10:19pm CDT

WildclawPrime wrote:Why is it that Takara has the better paint schemes then the Hasbro releases?

Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. It really depends on the particular line & figure.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597596)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 4:45am CDT

From amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Looks like no chrome this time.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597650)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 8th, 2014 @ 9:38am CDT

fenrir72 wrote:From amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Looks like no chrome this time.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597748)
Posted by Cyberpath on August 8th, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT

Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597754)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 8th, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

It's basic economics really. It's actually on par with current Japanese prices for Leader Class, and in fact between US and EU prices (EU being 70 Euros)

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597827)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:From amiami

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

Looks like no chrome this time.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-thread-t101179s125.php#p1597310

The thread you are linking IS NOT from Amiami. So was THAT a means to correct something that does not need to be corrected? :???:

For THOSE too busy to actually read the link

Cost: Y 7560 @ 30% off so it costs Y 5280 but ALL SOLD OUT.

So, do I get a "No" Prize?

Btw here's another link, this time at Hobbysearch:LG07 coming late December 2014

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/1059/0/1

Cost: Y 7000 but HS is charging Y 5950.........not yet SOLD OUT.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597828)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:46pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597831)
Posted by megatronus on August 8th, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT

fenrir72 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597846)
Posted by xyl360 on August 8th, 2014 @ 8:50pm CDT

megatronus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.

I don't know what shade it will be, but I'd bet that the Takara version will use at least slightly different color plastics. They almost always do, sometimes subtly different and other times dramatically so, but it's almost always at least somewhat different.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597892)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 9th, 2014 @ 2:02am CDT

Tomy or specifically anything for the Japanese market has an extra bling, though in this case.......no bling?? hehehehe

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597949)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2014 @ 9:34am CDT

fenrir72 wrote:Tomy or specifically anything for the Japanese market has an extra bling, though in this case.......no bling?? hehehehe

Their Gelshark is shinier than Sky-Byte, and their Jetfire has more paint apps than Hasbro's. So, for Jetfire, it's just a non-shiny bling.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1597972)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 9th, 2014 @ 10:53am CDT

Bling=chrome. So based on the pic......no chrome/bling.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1599327)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 2:52pm CDT

Va'al wrote:

I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1599329)
Posted by Mindmaster on August 14th, 2014 @ 2:57pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?

Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

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Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 3:01pm CDT

Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/

Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1599341)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 14th, 2014 @ 3:42pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/

Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap

No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1599404)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:31pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/

Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap

No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.

So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?

Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Jetfire and Sky-Byte (1599405)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:33pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Thanks! So is this the same toy as the one from this piece of news:

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/japanese-transformers-40/takara-tomy-announces-transformers-legends-new-line-celebrating-30-years-of-transformers-180247/

Because if the Primal is deluxe sized, he should be the same size as the rattrap

No, that's the original BW Optimus Primal figure (well, the 10th anniversary retool). The main difference is in the hands.

So takara is releasing 2 different scaled Optimus Primals in their Legends line then?

Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?

After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".

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Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2014 @ 6:37pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Do we even know for sure that the Legend Commander Collection is even part of the Legends toyline?

After all, it's "Legend Commander Collection" rather than "LegendS Commander Collection".

Silly me, I thought there was some coherence to the similar names #-o