Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Grand Maximus Did Not Reach 3000 Limit for Pretender Shell
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 2nd, 2017 @ 11:06am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:cough***third party***cough
What are you saying?
Posted by Insurgent on November 2nd, 2017 @ 11:18am CDT
Posted by Stuartmaximus on November 2nd, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 2nd, 2017 @ 11:48am CDT
Insurgent wrote:Or just get one of the other shells and stuff Grand in one of those.
Nah, not the same. I was on for the cool exclusive translucent pretender shell.
Posted by Relic0037 on November 2nd, 2017 @ 11:58am CDT
Insurgent wrote:Or just get one of the other shells and stuff Grand in one of those.
Pretty much what I will eventually do. Between whatever Hasbro & Takara release, I'm sure there will be a suitable substitute. It won't be quite the same as the one in the picture, but if I find a decent POTP shell for $10 (or whatever the retail price will be... I forget) I can make it work. Losing out on the shell isn't enough to make me cancel my preorder for a figure I thought would be a long shot to ever be produced.
Posted by Flashwave on November 2nd, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT
That's too bad, I couldn't justify getting Grand Max, but the Pretender Shell was who he was and I know a lot of folks were poking forward to him having that. And since it served as an extra gun, all the more loss
Relic0037 wrote:Insurgent wrote:Or just get one of the other shells and stuff Grand in one of those.
Pretty much what I will eventually do. Between whatever Hasbro & Takara release, I'm sure there will be a suitable substitute. It won't be quite the same as the one in the picture, but if I find a decent POTP shell for $10 (or whatever the retail price will be... I forget) I can make it work. Losing out on the shell isn't enough to make me cancel my preorder for a figure I thought would be a long shot to ever be produced.
Should be like $6. Shells will be the same price as the Titan Master accessories like Shuffler and Repugnus.
Posted by RetroFort on November 2nd, 2017 @ 12:31pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on November 2nd, 2017 @ 2:59pm CDT
Hopefully they paint it properly. A translucent Grand shell is not what I would want, but a cartoon accurate colored one would be fine.
Posted by SG Roadbuster on November 2nd, 2017 @ 5:04pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2017 @ 5:10pm CDT
TakaraTomy Mall doesn't cancel preorders, so any canceled preorders on places like BBTS won't affect the figure's production.SG Roadbuster wrote:i wonder how many pre-orders are being cancelled now since the shell goal wasnt hit.
Posted by Deadput on November 2nd, 2017 @ 6:34pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy Mall doesn't cancel preorders, so any canceled preorders on places like BBTS won't affect the figure's production.SG Roadbuster wrote:i wonder how many pre-orders are being cancelled now since the shell goal wasnt hit.
So basically we are not really preordering ourselves but BBTS and other places are and they just resell them to us right?
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2017 @ 6:35pm CDT
Right. Only preorders made directly to TTM by those with Japanese addresses mattered for the 2000 and 3000 marks.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy Mall doesn't cancel preorders, so any canceled preorders on places like BBTS won't affect the figure's production.SG Roadbuster wrote:i wonder how many pre-orders are being cancelled now since the shell goal wasnt hit.
So basically we are not really preordering ourselves but BBTS and other places are and they just resell them to us right?
Posted by Deadput on November 2nd, 2017 @ 6:41pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Right. Only preorders made directly to TTM by those with Japanese addresses mattered for the 2000 and 3000 marks.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy Mall doesn't cancel preorders, so any canceled preorders on places like BBTS won't affect the figure's production.SG Roadbuster wrote:i wonder how many pre-orders are being cancelled now since the shell goal wasnt hit.
So basically we are not really preordering ourselves but BBTS and other places are and they just resell them to us right?
Should of just did a bunch of preorders and then cancel after the 3000 line was made ha ha.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2017 @ 7:05pm CDT
Again, preorders made directly to TTM can't be canceled.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Right. Only preorders made directly to TTM by those with Japanese addresses mattered for the 2000 and 3000 marks.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy Mall doesn't cancel preorders, so any canceled preorders on places like BBTS won't affect the figure's production.SG Roadbuster wrote:i wonder how many pre-orders are being cancelled now since the shell goal wasnt hit.
So basically we are not really preordering ourselves but BBTS and other places are and they just resell them to us right?
Should of just did a bunch of preorders and then cancel after the 3000 line was made ha ha.
Posted by Deadput on November 2nd, 2017 @ 8:16pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Again, preorders made directly to TTM can't be canceled.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Right. Only preorders made directly to TTM by those with Japanese addresses mattered for the 2000 and 3000 marks.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy Mall doesn't cancel preorders, so any canceled preorders on places like BBTS won't affect the figure's production.SG Roadbuster wrote:i wonder how many pre-orders are being cancelled now since the shell goal wasnt hit.
So basically we are not really preordering ourselves but BBTS and other places are and they just resell them to us right?
Should of just did a bunch of preorders and then cancel after the 3000 line was made ha ha.
I meant that we preorder through BBTS and other places and then cancel when they order the ammount, it was also a joke too.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 2nd, 2017 @ 8:51pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Again, preorders made directly to TTM can't be canceled.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Right. Only preorders made directly to TTM by those with Japanese addresses mattered for the 2000 and 3000 marks.Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy Mall doesn't cancel preorders, so any canceled preorders on places like BBTS won't affect the figure's production.SG Roadbuster wrote:i wonder how many pre-orders are being cancelled now since the shell goal wasnt hit.
So basically we are not really preordering ourselves but BBTS and other places are and they just resell them to us right?
Should of just did a bunch of preorders and then cancel after the 3000 line was made ha ha.
I meant that we preorder through BBTS and other places and then cancel when they order the ammount, it was also a joke too.
But what if a store like BBTS needs to cancel 50 pre-orders of the figure, does that mean their middle man is stuck with 50 extra copies of Grand Max? What if someone in Japan just doesn't pay?
By the way, Great Shot is a TTM exclusive too?
Posted by Sabrblade on November 2nd, 2017 @ 9:45pm CDT
He is, yes.chuckdawg1999 wrote:By the way, Great Shot is a TTM exclusive too?
Posted by fenrir72 on November 2nd, 2017 @ 10:26pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on November 2nd, 2017 @ 10:36pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on November 2nd, 2017 @ 11:31pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:TakaraTomy Mall doesn't cancel preorders, so any canceled preorders on places like BBTS won't affect the figure's production.SG Roadbuster wrote:i wonder how many pre-orders are being cancelled now since the shell goal wasnt hit.
So basically we are not really preordering ourselves but BBTS and other places are and they just resell them to us right?
I think we have it all wrong. The price BBTS is selling it at is not enough of a markup for them buying it from TTMall, shipping it and then reselling it. If it were the case, the markup would look more like th markup for last years Legends 2 pack with Dogfight which was triple the actual price in japan.
Like most Takara products, they are getting it through another channel. I have no clue how it works, I am just saying I am pretty sure how it doesnt work.
And this proves what I was saying to Sebertron and Megatronus, our orders, unless done through TTMall directly, have 0 impact. This was entirely dependent on the Japanese market.
Posted by Seibertron on November 3rd, 2017 @ 1:02am CDT
104W
Posted by joevill on November 3rd, 2017 @ 9:39am CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 9:55am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:He is, yes.chuckdawg1999 wrote:By the way, Great Shot is a TTM exclusive too?
Ah, no wonder I couldn't find it on Amazon Japan.
Posted by william-james88 on November 3rd, 2017 @ 11:47am CDT
Seibertron wrote:I 100% disagree. I'm assuming that the US online retailers have a very large impact on those numbers and that they are placing an order with a middle man of some sort that does indeed purchase directly from Takara Tomy mall, and our pre-orders do have a definite impact. If I were a major US online Transformers retailer like BBTS or TFsource, I just can't imagine that they can't directly impact something like this. It wouldn't make sense this far down the road at this point. Your post makes it sound like those retailers don't have connections in Japan, which I'm about 100% certain they do have.
104W
I didnt say they didnt have connections in Japan, I just said they dont buy directly from TTMall. The mark up is too low for that. For most products they get it wholesale through a japanese middleman who can buy directly from Takara like Diamond can buy from Hasbro and then ship to smaller shops. Then when its a TTMall exclusive, they often buy through Hasbro Asia (same with those tokyo toy show exclusives). There have been many instances where TTmall had a limited amount of figures, like UW Defensor for instance, but everyone who wanted one in the world was able to get him with BBTS and TFSource still taking lots of preorders while TTMall was sold out in no time. Defensor at TTmall was 135$ US while he is 149$ at TFSource. That wouldnt even cover shipping and duty. So thats precedent for BBTS and other international retailers getting a TTMall exclusive without buying directly from TTMall.
And this is the same with this set. Scotty P explains it also at the begining of the recent NYCC Podcast with TTMall not caring about international audiences and international orders being purchased from other wholesalers rather than TTMall. It would explain why there werent enough preorders at TTMall to reach the limit when odds are there will be far more than 2000 on the market when all is said and done. If not that would mean that all preorders combined from every seller in the world was less than 3000. Could be, I am just looking at all that we know and scratching my head.
Posted by Burn on November 5th, 2017 @ 1:37am CST
It did indeed contain Gnaw, Hot Rod and Kup (or whatever the fuck they're called in Japan).
Gnaw - Definitely prefer the colours of this guy over the TR one. He was, and still is, a fun little mold.
Hot Rod - I wasn't a big fan of the TR version, partially because I detest Hot Rod, and his future self, but also because it was just ... bland. I find the colours of the Legends one though to be MUCH better. Still not a big fan of the mold but he looks better.
Kup - From the first pictures of him I was never impressed. The alt mode looks like a piece of shit. The robot mode is slightly better, but ... eh, nothing fabulous.
That opinion hasn't changed. I really REALLY don't like the alt mode, the robot mode is okay, but nothing that is going to win him figure of the year award.
What I do like though? I like his transformation. In particular the legs, I really enjoyed how they formed.
The Targetmasters are nothing to get excited over either.
So yeah, yay for Gnaw!
Posted by ExciKaiser on November 5th, 2017 @ 5:46am CST
Real question, I remember in the "rediscovering joy of collecting", that purchasing the latest toys just for following the general movement was a cause of your boredom.
Posted by Insurgent on November 5th, 2017 @ 7:07am CST
Posted by Burn on November 5th, 2017 @ 1:43pm CST
ExciKaiser wrote:Why did you purchased them if you were not convinced from the pictures ?
But I was. I preferred the colours of all three over the Hasbro versions.
I only got Kup because everyone harped on about how great he was. And while the robot mode is okay, the alt mode is still a piece of shit. Good thing I don't display in alt mode.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 5th, 2017 @ 6:04pm CST
Burn wrote:What I do like though? I like his transformation. In particular the legs, I really enjoyed how they formed.
I'm still amazed how a whole bunch of panels come together to form a really solid leg. He's my 3rd favorite deluxe mold from the line, right behind Triggerhapy and the TopTwist twins.
Posted by Burn on November 5th, 2017 @ 6:28pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm still amazed how a whole bunch of panels come together to form a really solid leg.
Exactly! It's really well done. For me though, the rest of the figure is a let down. It does have potential though, if they were to hide all the panels in the "tray", as well as the hands, maybe using a canopy (thus making it a different character).
Posted by william-james88 on November 5th, 2017 @ 9:00pm CST
Burn wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:I'm still amazed how a whole bunch of panels come together to form a really solid leg.
Exactly! It's really well done. For me though, the rest of the figure is a let down. It does have potential though, if they were to hide all the panels in the "tray", as well as the hands, maybe using a canopy (thus making it a different character).
For what it counts, the Hasbro version makes the alt mode look better on the sides since it has different shoulders made to fit with the alt mode.
Posted by Qwan on November 7th, 2017 @ 5:52pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:the TopTwist twins
Heeeyyy, cool to see my dumb nickname for the two of them gaining a bit of traction!
While I'd put Triggerhappy a little further down the list myself as compared to yours (not by much, but he doesn't gel for me quiite as well as he does for others) I do agree that the Kup mold is one of the cleverer designs to come out of this line. The legs are genius for sure, but the torso transformation is no slouch either. My only real complaints with the LG version's vehicle mode are the funny gaps behind the cab where the hands can be seen, and the hands themselves - two connected issues which are significantly less noticeable on the Hasbro version thanks to the shoulder design.
Even with those issues though, I still think he's the best Kup we've ever gotten, in both robot and vehicle mode. Gen Sergeant Kup had an awesome vehicle mode but except for the colors nothing about it ever said Kup to me; PRiD Kup, despite also taking plenty of liberties with the vehicle, ended up with the worst truck bed I've ever seen (and it should've been totally avoidable too!); and so on. This guy has a bit of trouble here and there, but all things considered the vehicle looks cool, looks good and looks Kup. And what more could I ask for?
Posted by fenrir72 on November 7th, 2017 @ 6:27pm CST
Hotrod, Springer,Blurr,Arcee,Kup, Wheelie were the product of their time. Hb wanted to shift to a futuristic out of this world look and Floro Dery answered the call.
Kup is amazing. Awesome design! Just because a vocal minority sez so doesn't mean it has to be true 'cause if they suck so much, how come Takara/Hasbro keeps on "re imagining" them?
Posted by Qwan on November 7th, 2017 @ 6:54pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:if they suck so much, how come Takara/Hasbro keeps on "re imagining" them?
Money, dear boy. Whether they're good or not (and I like them all okay personally, but actually defining the quality of the characters/designs is wayyy too nebulous to really do), they're still nostalgic, and hence all the re-imaginings have a better chance of selling than totally new characters - at least, in the corporate line of thought.
Besides, I don't think anyone was really bashing on Kup's overall design. At worst, there was recognition that in order to accommodate the actual physical properties of a transforming toy, the figure's design had to make a few compromises that people (myself included) weren't entirely happy with.
Posted by ExciKaiser on November 8th, 2017 @ 7:53am CST
Qwan wrote:
Besides, I don't think anyone was really bashing on Kup's overall design.
No, on my part, I bashed only the head. Which in my opinion not improved with the Takara version.
That's why I finally got Orion in order to enjoy this mold.
Posted by fenrir72 on November 8th, 2017 @ 10:22pm CST
ExciKaiser wrote:Qwan wrote:
Besides, I don't think anyone was really bashing on Kup's overall design.
No, on my part, I bashed only the head. Which in my opinion not improved with the Takara version.
That's why I finally got Orion in order to enjoy this mold.
Best Orion will be PotP "Optimus"/Orion Pax! And the Takara version will be a home run! Now if only an Ariel/Elita 1 is also released (not the Starscream mold version though too early to tell how good or bad she will be)
Posted by Cyberpath on November 18th, 2017 @ 8:02am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 18th, 2017 @ 8:05am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 18th, 2017 @ 11:54pm CST
These technical drawings appear to be very close to the final products indicating that these are very near to the last phase of product design, right before the next phase involving the physical construction of the mold. These drawings show us how much Takara is involved with the design process of all Transformers toys, regardless of which company they will be released under.
The scans were found on 北马伊斯力's Weibo page.
Posted by Alpha Dominus on November 19th, 2017 @ 9:39am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 19th, 2017 @ 10:17am CST
Posted by Seibertron on November 19th, 2017 @ 12:57pm CST
This set is still available for pre-order from several of Seibertron.com's advertisers including TheChosenPrime, TFsource and BigBadToyStore. If you're in Japan, you can order this set from Takara Tomy Mall for ¥17,280 (~$155 USD). Pictures from previous news stories can be viewed below.
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Posted by Emerje on November 19th, 2017 @ 1:14pm CST
Emerje
Posted by Ironhidensh on November 19th, 2017 @ 1:21pm CST
Emerje wrote:Only slightly annoying. We've waited this long, another week isn't going to kill any of us.
Emerje
Oh yeah?
*dies*
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 19th, 2017 @ 2:38pm CST
Ironhidensh wrote:Emerje wrote:Only slightly annoying. We've waited this long, another week isn't going to kill any of us.
Emerje
Oh yeah?
*dies*
There's always one in every crowd
But delayed by a week isn't really that bad, usually it's 3 weeks to a month AFAIK.
Posted by Insurgent on November 19th, 2017 @ 5:05pm CST
Posted by nycPrime on November 19th, 2017 @ 7:07pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 19th, 2017 @ 7:30pm CST
Posted by Emerje on November 19th, 2017 @ 8:58pm CST
nycPrime wrote:I'm leaning toward picking up LG-52 Misfire. I've used Anime Export exclusively, but that's no longer an option. What's the next best option with the other import sites? Especially considering quality of service since I assume price is more or less the same.
Here's the three I deal with most:
AmiAmi - 3,040JPY
HLJ - 3,200JPY (pre-sold out)
Hobby Search - 3,400JPY
All have great customer service and similar shipping costs.
Emerje
Posted by nycPrime on November 19th, 2017 @ 9:48pm CST
Emerje wrote:nycPrime wrote:I'm leaning toward picking up LG-52 Misfire. I've used Anime Export exclusively, but that's no longer an option. What's the next best option with the other import sites? Especially considering quality of service since I assume price is more or less the same.
Here's the three I deal with most:
AmiAmi - 3,040JPY
HLJ - 3,200JPY (pre-sold out)
Hobby Search - 3,400JPY
All have great customer service and similar shipping costs.
Emerje
Thanks Emerje. I was thinking about AmiAmi. May pick up a Sharkticon while I'm at it.