Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber - Dengeki Hobby Scans
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Posted by Xephon0930 on August 24th, 2014 @ 2:09pm CDT
I still wonder if Star Saber can hold his sword edge facing forward and not with the blade wielded at its side. That and where did that shield come from?
Posted by wewyllenium on August 24th, 2014 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 24th, 2014 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by Agamemnon on August 24th, 2014 @ 2:41pm CDT
megatronus wrote:I knew Star Saber was big, but the Brainmaster himself is as big as the standard MP cars? That's just wild(ly awesome).
I think the Brainmaster is the little dude, kinda like a Powermaster, Headmaster, or Targetmaster. Star is the same of the deluxeish size bot, if mnemory serves, And Star Saber is the deluxish folded up into the larger armor. At least I think that's how it goes.
And, whoah. This is looking awesome!!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 24th, 2014 @ 2:52pm CDT
Agamemnon wrote:megatronus wrote:I knew Star Saber was big, but the Brainmaster himself is as big as the standard MP cars? That's just wild(ly awesome).
I think the Brainmaster is the little dude, kinda like a Powermaster, Headmaster, or Targetmaster. Star is the same of the deluxeish size bot, if mnemory serves, And Star Saber is the deluxish folded up into the larger armor. At least I think that's how it goes.
And, whoah. This is looking awesome!!
Since we're getting technical, here are the official names:
Tiny figure: Yuuki no Brain (Brain of Courage)
Intermediate figure: Saber
Full combined figure: Star Saber
The term "Brainmaster" is used in a gimmick describing sense only.
Posted by TulioDude on August 24th, 2014 @ 3:20pm CDT
Theres eens to some artistic liberty taken with his solo jet mode.
Wonder how he will look doing this:
You know,without the helmet.
Posted by WildclawPrime on August 24th, 2014 @ 4:18pm CDT
Posted by Ravage XK on August 24th, 2014 @ 5:21pm CDT
Posted by Xephon0930 on August 24th, 2014 @ 7:05pm CDT
Ravage XK wrote:Nope, still does nothing for me.
Surprising that there are still you guys taking the time to post this.
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 24th, 2014 @ 7:05pm CDT
Ravage XK wrote:Nope, still does nothing for me.
What's wrong with it? Star Saber didn't call you on his phone?
Posted by griftimus prime on August 24th, 2014 @ 7:25pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 24th, 2014 @ 7:57pm CDT
Best. Masterpiece! EVER!
Posted by guarayakha on August 24th, 2014 @ 9:57pm CDT
griftimus prime wrote:i wonder what the repaint will be called?
BlackStarSaber, obviously.
Posted by Agamemnon on August 24th, 2014 @ 10:15pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Agamemnon wrote:megatronus wrote:I knew Star Saber was big, but the Brainmaster himself is as big as the standard MP cars? That's just wild(ly awesome).
I think the Brainmaster is the little dude, kinda like a Powermaster, Headmaster, or Targetmaster. Star is the same of the deluxeish size bot, if mnemory serves, And Star Saber is the deluxish folded up into the larger armor. At least I think that's how it goes.
And, whoah. This is looking awesome!!
Since we're getting technical, here are the official names:
Tiny figure: Yuuki no Brain (Brain of Courage)
Intermediate figure: Saber
Full combined figure: Star Saber
The term "Brainmaster" is used in a gimmick describing sense only.
Oh, that's it, thanks! I should have remembered that too, what with Saber Blade being said so often (even in Japanese) in the Victory cartoon. Plus, I was expecting correction from our resident Sabrblade, and his awesomeness in not having to reference the Wiki. (Is TFwiki wired directly into his brain? )
So, it was Saber, combining to become Star Saber, then combining with Victory Leo to become Victory Saber. (Plus the Yuuki no Brain initial combination with Saber.) It was weird to not see the little guy emphasized more, what given the characters in Masterforce. Perhaps they wanted the Brainmasters, Multiforce, and Chestforce (or Breastforce, depending on the translation viewed?) to be completely separate from Masterforce. Or perhaps they are all assumed to be transectors? Something tells me I am losing something in the translation of the subtitled episodes...
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 24th, 2014 @ 10:55pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 24th, 2014 @ 10:56pm CDT
As for an MP Victory Leo, that's hopefully a 50/50 chance but given the projected response maybe 90%?
Hopefully not a repeat of Starconvoy that didn't get a Grandus re-issue
Posted by Agamemnon on August 24th, 2014 @ 11:04pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm a little worried that the figure won't be able to hold the sword straight.
Yeah, Xephon0930 mentioned this too. From looking at the pictures, it looks like the huge forearms may be the culprit. It's hard to see if the handle of the sword is long enough for the guard to clear the forearm.
Posted by kirbenvost on August 24th, 2014 @ 11:27pm CDT
One thing I'm glad for is the movable antennae. It was kind of bugging me how far they pointed outwards, so I'm happy to see they can point out to varying degrees.
I also really like how well the spaceship mode all fits together compared to every other version so far. Finally, no huge gaps!
All signs are pointing to this being one of the best MPs ever!
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 24th, 2014 @ 11:32pm CDT
kirbenvost wrote:Hmm, it doesn't really look like he'll be able to hold it straight. Kind of a silly design, but the original was like that too.
One thing I'm glad for is the movable antennae. It was kind of bugging me how far they pointed outwards, so I'm happy to see they can point out to varying degrees.
I also really like how well the spaceship mode all fits together compared to every other version so far. Finally, no huge gaps!
All signs are pointing to this being one of the best MPs ever!
On the original toy the blade went into the hilt a different way so it faced forward, maybe that can be done on this figure too.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2014 @ 7:56am CDT
The way I always viewed the Brainmasters (after watching the Victory cartoon, that is) was that the little brain guys weren't their own persons but were more like manifestations of the larger robots' minds or minds and souls (or maybe, retroactively, their sparks, but that's a different can of worms), with the larger robots being the true versions of them.Agamemnon wrote:It was weird to not see the little guy emphasized more, what given the characters in Masterforce. Perhaps they wanted the Brainmasters, Multiforce, and Chestforce (or Breastforce, depending on the translation viewed?) to be completely separate from Masterforce. Or perhaps they are all assumed to be transectors? Something tells me I am losing something in the translation of the subtitled episodes...
After all, during the transformation sequences for each, the smaller dudes were often seen changing into some kind of energy form prior to entering the chests of the larger robots. Though, there were some occasions that the stock footage transformation sequences weren't used and did show the actual, physical brain robots to be inside the chests, but I still think that they're just emissaries for the true selves of the larger Brainmaster Autobots.
Plus, they don't actually have real names of their own, just decriptors for what kind of brains they are (Courage, Skill, Strength, Intelligence).
Posted by Mindmaster on August 25th, 2014 @ 11:49am CDT
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on August 25th, 2014 @ 9:05pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on August 25th, 2014 @ 10:25pm CDT
Posted by Agamemnon on August 25th, 2014 @ 10:28pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:Looks nice!Did Saber ever appeared by himself on the cartoon?
You mean without his Star armor? On the odd occasion. There were even times when the Star armor was needed for other reasons and Saber would fight without it.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 25th, 2014 @ 10:55pm CDT
Yeah, I'm only referring to Saber. I'm well aware that this figure's Star Saber form is just a smidge taller than the G1 figure's Star Saber form.
Though, Saber being this small makes him about the same height as the MP cars, such as Wheeljack, who was about the same height at Perceptor in the Victory cartoon, who was about the same height as Saber:
Posted by Destron MP1B on August 26th, 2014 @ 11:54am CDT
He also appears to be one of the tallest MP figures, looks to be as tall as MP 5...
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 26th, 2014 @ 7:52pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on August 27th, 2014 @ 7:18am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2014 @ 7:33am CDT
Posted by Powered Convoy on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:02am CDT
Va'al wrote:Once again coming at us from Hideashi Yuki on Twitter, we get some comparison shots of the third part of the prototype for MP-25 Star Saber - and it's Yuuki no Brain, Brainmaster of Courage! Check out the images showing the tiny figure alongside its predecessors and some other size comparisons.
TFYuki is Hisashi Yuki, not Hideashi Yuki.
Also, when did MP Star Saber get the designation of MP-25? We still don't know what designation he'll get as far as I've heard. Ultra Magnus is MP-22. Granted we don't know if Star Saber will be MP-23 or something higher yet, but last I heard he wasn't stated to have a number yet.
Randy
Posted by hinomars19 on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:18am CDT
It really is interesting to see how everything is sizing up! I want this sucker badly
Posted by Destron MP1B on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:03am CDT
*Smallest TF's are the WST line, specifically, Bumble Bee or Ravage, lol.
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Posted by Kibble on August 27th, 2014 @ 10:40am CDT
Powered Convoy wrote:Va'al wrote:Once again coming at us from Hideashi Yuki on Twitter, we get some comparison shots of the third part of the prototype for MP-25 Star Saber - and it's Yuuki no Brain, Brainmaster of Courage! Check out the images showing the tiny figure alongside its predecessors and some other size comparisons.
TFYuki is Hisashi Yuki, not Hideashi Yuki.
Also, when did MP Star Saber get the designation of MP-25? We still don't know what designation he'll get as far as I've heard. Ultra Magnus is MP-22. Granted we don't know if Star Saber will be MP-23 or something higher yet, but last I heard he wasn't stated to have a number yet.
Randy
I was wondering where MP-25 came from as well... For all we know, it could have its own numbering system like the movie 'MP' figures. But if site staff know something we don't, then who the hell is MP-23 & 24? Spill it!
Posted by Counterpunch on August 27th, 2014 @ 11:51am CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on August 27th, 2014 @ 12:12pm CDT
Kibble wrote:Powered Convoy wrote:Va'al wrote:Once again coming at us from Hideashi Yuki on Twitter, we get some comparison shots of the third part of the prototype for MP-25 Star Saber - and it's Yuuki no Brain, Brainmaster of Courage! Check out the images showing the tiny figure alongside its predecessors and some other size comparisons.
TFYuki is Hisashi Yuki, not Hideashi Yuki.
Also, when did MP Star Saber get the designation of MP-25? We still don't know what designation he'll get as far as I've heard. Ultra Magnus is MP-22. Granted we don't know if Star Saber will be MP-23 or something higher yet, but last I heard he wasn't stated to have a number yet.
Randy
I was wondering where MP-25 came from as well... For all we know, it could have its own numbering system like the movie 'MP' figures. But if site staff know something we don't, then who the hell is MP-23 & 24? Spill it!
I'm getting a bad feeling that MP-23 is the brainmaster unit, MP-24 is Saber, with MP-25 being Starsaber.
Anyway, I think we'll be seeing a Victory Leo and possibly a Dai Atlas in the distant future.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2014 @ 12:54pm CDT
They wouldn't give separate components of a single Masterpiece release individual ID numbers. When Rumble and Jaguar were packaged together, they were both given a single ID number of MP-15. Likewise for Frenzy and Buzzsaw together as a 2-pack being MP-16.Madeus Prime wrote:I'm getting a bad feeling that MP-23 is the brainmaster unit, MP-24 is Saber, with MP-25 being Starsaber.
As far as can be told, the "MP-25" thing is incorrect (no offense intended towards the news crew).
Posted by VioMeTriX on August 27th, 2014 @ 1:04pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2014 @ 1:07pm CDT
It's not like the brain is even supposed to do anything anyway. It's not even a person; just the core component of Star Saber that goes into his chest.VioMeTriX wrote:it really is sad that with a flagship masterpiece figure, the brain master has the pose ability of an 80's action master toy. and weve seen some small transformers with mad articulation...
Posted by megatronus on August 27th, 2014 @ 2:12pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's not like the brain is even supposed to do anything anyway. It's not even a person; just the core component of Star Saber that goes into his chest.VioMeTriX wrote:it really is sad that with a flagship masterpiece figure, the brain master has the pose ability of an 80's action master toy. and weve seen some small transformers with mad articulation...
No offense, but that's a really, really sorry excuse.
Posted by Powered Convoy on August 27th, 2014 @ 2:44pm CDT
Randy
Posted by Va'al on August 27th, 2014 @ 3:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:They wouldn't give separate components of a single Masterpiece release individual ID numbers. When Rumble and Jaguar were packaged together, they were both given a single ID number of MP-15. Likewise for Frenzy and Buzzsaw together as a 2-pack being MP-16.Madeus Prime wrote:I'm getting a bad feeling that MP-23 is the brainmaster unit, MP-24 is Saber, with MP-25 being Starsaber.
As far as can be told, the "MP-25" thing is incorrect (no offense intended towards the news crew).
All of that, including the name, are the result of a very tired me typing early in the morning. Apologies!
Posted by Agamemnon on August 27th, 2014 @ 3:20pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They wouldn't give separate components of a single Masterpiece release individual ID numbers. When Rumble and Jaguar were packaged together, they were both given a single ID number of MP-15. Likewise for Frenzy and Buzzsaw together as a 2-pack being MP-16.Madeus Prime wrote:I'm getting a bad feeling that MP-23 is the brainmaster unit, MP-24 is Saber, with MP-25 being Starsaber.
As far as can be told, the "MP-25" thing is incorrect (no offense intended towards the news crew).
All of that, including the name, are the result of a very tired me typing early in the morning. Apologies!
Awww, we still love you, Va'al!!
Posted by Flashwave on August 27th, 2014 @ 6:39pm CDT
VioMeTriX wrote:it really is sad that with a flagship masterpiece figure, the brain master has the pose ability of an 80's action master toy. and weve seen some small transformers with mad articulation...
You're talking about something that is half as tall and half as wide as the Armada minicon Ramjet figure. This is a fgurine that would be the right size to fit onto a HotWheels car, or an HO scale model train. Which is 1/87th of your size. To put it bluntly, and with as much sarcasm as possible:
The hell else do you want??
Posted by fenrir72 on August 27th, 2014 @ 8:33pm CDT
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:17pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 27th, 2014 @ 9:19pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)
I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 28th, 2014 @ 12:32pm CDT
megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)
I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.
SNAP! He broke... Darn, he was so small!
Posted by fenrir72 on August 28th, 2014 @ 5:35pm CDT
megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)
I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.
Dr. Wu is a 3rd party company, those guys can charge as much as they want. They aren't tied up as much as Tomy has to deal with costs despite the typical stereotype against multinationals/big corporations short selling us.
Remember how there were such big plans for UM? But costs was the primary concern in one of the interviews released.
And one thing, just what else can you add to such a wee wee figure? Head articulation? Remember, he already carries the face/brainmaster gimmick etc.
Besides, if I/you have Starsaber now, I'd be playing with his default/super mode over the Brainmaster.
Posted by megatronus on August 28th, 2014 @ 9:56pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)
I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.
Dr. Wu is a 3rd party company, those guys can charge as much as they want. They aren't tied up as much as Tomy has to deal with costs despite the typical stereotype against multinationals/big corporations short selling us.
Remember how there were such big plans for UM? But costs was the primary concern in one of the interviews released.
And one thing, just what else can you add to such a wee wee figure? Head articulation? Remember, he already carries the face/brainmaster gimmick etc.
Besides, if I/you have Starsaber now, I'd be playing with his default/super mode over the Brainmaster.
I'm saying it's possible and feasible to give a small figure articulation. I'm sorry if you enjoy the crappy Spike that doesn't even look like Spike or have a face (!), but wait, not sorry.
Posted by fenrir72 on August 29th, 2014 @ 3:18am CDT
megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:megatronus wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Given the size,I don't think it will be feasible to give the Brain of Courage full articulation. It's like hoping that the "Spike" figure in MP-10 to have the same features (which will rack up the costs)
I think the Spike argument is less fair, given the existence of Dr Wu's Partners.
Dr. Wu is a 3rd party company, those guys can charge as much as they want. They aren't tied up as much as Tomy has to deal with costs despite the typical stereotype against multinationals/big corporations short selling us.
Remember how there were such big plans for UM? But costs was the primary concern in one of the interviews released.
And one thing, just what else can you add to such a wee wee figure? Head articulation? Remember, he already carries the face/brainmaster gimmick etc.
Besides, if I/you have Starsaber now, I'd be playing with his default/super mode over the Brainmaster.
I'm saying it's possible and feasible to give a small figure articulation. I'm sorry if you enjoy the crappy Spike that doesn't even look like Spike or have a face (!), but wait, not sorry.
FACE PALM!
Nowhere did I say I enjoyed the MP-10 Spike figure to a point of putting it on a pedestal.I used it as an analogy about incorporating too much impractical features to an accessory that will, if at all,add to the awesome playability of an already great product....the MP-10. I bought MP-10 for Optimus! Good that Tomy included Spike........period. Could they have put more articulation? Maybe? Add more facial details? Doubt it....the scale is just too small (by the by, if you mean details like the figs in Human Alliance.....well no thanks)
Speaking of details, I'd rather the type used on the KISS Players figs.