Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed
Wednesday, May 9th, 2018 9:21PM CDT
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The news keeps on flowing right in from the Shizouka Hobby Show! Up next are yet another pair of highly anticipated Masterpiece figures, in the form of new toy accurate MP-29+ Bōei Sanbō (Defense Officer) Laserwave (Shockwave) and MP-36+ Megatron! These new figures come to us from an image provided by あると鉄火@AKG委託予定 on Twitter, which shows the 2 new repainted masterpiece figures advertised against a starry background.
While we do not have any actual figure images yet to show you, we can note immediately that Megatron now has a new toy inspired head, chest details, and red paint on the insides of his arms and legs. Also of note is that Laserwave is a much darker, anime accurate purple color this time around.
With this announcement, it appears as though a pattern is emerging: older Masterpiece figures designed to look like the toy are getting redone in cartoon styled paintwork whereas some of the newer cartoony Masterpiece figures are getting redone with toy accurate details and colorings. Interesting to see where this pattern goes from here.
Check out the image below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
While we do not have any actual figure images yet to show you, we can note immediately that Megatron now has a new toy inspired head, chest details, and red paint on the insides of his arms and legs. Also of note is that Laserwave is a much darker, anime accurate purple color this time around.
With this announcement, it appears as though a pattern is emerging: older Masterpiece figures designed to look like the toy are getting redone in cartoon styled paintwork whereas some of the newer cartoony Masterpiece figures are getting redone with toy accurate details and colorings. Interesting to see where this pattern goes from here.
Check out the image below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Credit(s): あると鉄火@AKG委託予定 on Twitter
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958578)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:22pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also, I'm wrong about Shockwave being toy-based. The ad says he's anime colored.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958579)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:23pm CDT
Updating as a I speak
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:23pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also, I'm wrong about Shockwave being toy-based. The ad says he's anime colored.
Updating as a I speak
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958581)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:25pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:25pm CDT
And there is the Megatron I have wanted.
He will be pre-ordered. As Cobo-the-wise once said, Patience does pay off
He will be pre-ordered. As Cobo-the-wise once said, Patience does pay off
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958584)
Posted by Cobotron on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:29pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:29pm CDT
You have learned well D-Max.
Is there an echo in here?
PATIENCE WINS!!!!!!!!!
That Megatron looks DOPE! That was exactly what I was waiting for.
I knew I could rely on you takara. Thank you!
In the MP-42 Cordon thread Cobotron literally JUST wrote:AWE YEAH!
That is AWESOME!!!!! I knew my patience would pay off. It has really been working for me and what I'm after to just wait and simmer on Masterpiece figures. I've handled Sunstreaker and he is beautiful. Glad I can have the mold more inline to my likings.
Is there an echo in here?
PATIENCE WINS!!!!!!!!!
That Megatron looks DOPE! That was exactly what I was waiting for.
I knew I could rely on you takara. Thank you!
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958585)
Posted by Terrsolpix on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:29pm CDT
Posted by Terrsolpix on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:29pm CDT
By some mirracle please cause the original MP-36 to go down in price 
Otherwise kinda digging that shockwave. I’d still prefer the lavender deco but this’d do in a pinch.
Otherwise kinda digging that shockwave. I’d still prefer the lavender deco but this’d do in a pinch.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958588)
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:31pm CDT
Now I shall rejoice.
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:31pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Whistle whistle whistle worriers!!!
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... led/41199/
Now I shall rejoice.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958589)
Posted by sol magnus on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:32pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:32pm CDT
Toy accurate Megatron should quiet the "I hate cartoons" folk for at least a while.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958590)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:33pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:33pm CDT
It's kinda funny how we went from 0 to 4 new MP reveals in like an hour, even if we did know MP42 and MP43 were coming/had preorders for MP42. And they are seem to have killed it!
I need to listen to you more often Cobo, I really should!
It's also funny because this means some of us will be pre-ordering 2 very different Megatrons at the same time in the MP line
I need to listen to you more often Cobo, I really should!
It's also funny because this means some of us will be pre-ordering 2 very different Megatrons at the same time in the MP line
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958591)
Posted by Cobotron on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:33pm CDT
But I don't hate cartoons. Just that one.
Posted by Cobotron on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:33pm CDT
Sure will!sol magnus wrote:Toy accurate Megatron should quiet the "I hate cartoons" folk for at least a while.
But I don't hate cartoons. Just that one.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958594)
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:39pm CDT
No. There was 1 reveal. Repaints don't count, just like those damn kids need to get off my lawn!!!
Just kidding (kinda), you kids can enjoy your repaints, I guess.
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:39pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:It's kinda funny how we went from 0 to 4 new MP reveals in like an hour, even if we did know MP42 and MP43 were coming/had preorders for MP42. And they are seem to have killed it!
I need to listen to you more often Cobo, I really should!
It's also funny because this means some of us will be pre-ordering 2 very different Megatrons at the same time in the MP line
No. There was 1 reveal. Repaints don't count, just like those damn kids need to get off my lawn!!!
Just kidding (kinda), you kids can enjoy your repaints, I guess.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958595)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:40pm CDT
But that one reveal was an absolute killer wasn't it?
Still shaking. So much awesomeness in so little time
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:40pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:It's kinda funny how we went from 0 to 4 new MP reveals in like an hour, even if we did know MP42 and MP43 were coming/had preorders for MP42. And they are seem to have killed it!
I need to listen to you more often Cobo, I really should!
It's also funny because this means some of us will be pre-ordering 2 very different Megatrons at the same time in the MP line
No. There was 1 reveal. Repaints don't count, just like those damn kids need to get off my lawn!!!
Just kidding (kinda), you kids can enjoy your repaints, I guess.
But that one reveal was an absolute killer wasn't it?
Still shaking. So much awesomeness in so little time
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958598)
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:43pm CDT
It was quite good. While the MPM line anoys me for taking slots from G1, I absolutely love these MP Beasties. I'm so hoping for rhinox and Waspinator.
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:43pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ironhidensh wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:It's kinda funny how we went from 0 to 4 new MP reveals in like an hour, even if we did know MP42 and MP43 were coming/had preorders for MP42. And they are seem to have killed it!
I need to listen to you more often Cobo, I really should!
It's also funny because this means some of us will be pre-ordering 2 very different Megatrons at the same time in the MP line
No. There was 1 reveal. Repaints don't count, just like those damn kids need to get off my lawn!!!
Just kidding (kinda), you kids can enjoy your repaints, I guess.
But that one reveal was an absolute killer wasn't it?
Still shaking. So much awesomeness in so little time
It was quite good. While the MPM line anoys me for taking slots from G1, I absolutely love these MP Beasties. I'm so hoping for rhinox and Waspinator.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958600)
Posted by LevelRage on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:46pm CDT
Posted by LevelRage on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:46pm CDT
I'd pick up that Shockwave right there instead of the last one. The darker purple just looks so much better. Hope it's a decent price though.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958604)
Posted by william-james88 on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:48pm CDT
Makes no goddam sense. The original MP was so anime accurate, it even came with those toon srtickers
Posted by william-james88 on May 9th, 2018 @ 9:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Also, I'm wrong about Shockwave being toy-based. The ad says he's anime colored.
Makes no goddam sense. The original MP was so anime accurate, it even came with those toon srtickers
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958616)
Posted by Hydrargyrus on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:08pm CDT
So, I just looked at some Shockwave pictures, and I can’t figure out where the lavender color scheme is from. It might be my colorbindness, though. Anyone know?
Also, I was thinking that I should pick up an MP Shockwave when they released him in a darker color. I’ll probably pick this one up.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:08pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Also, I'm wrong about Shockwave being toy-based. The ad says he's anime colored.
Makes no goddam sense. The original MP was so anime accurate, it even came with those toon srtickers
So, I just looked at some Shockwave pictures, and I can’t figure out where the lavender color scheme is from. It might be my colorbindness, though. Anyone know?
Also, I was thinking that I should pick up an MP Shockwave when they released him in a darker color. I’ll probably pick this one up.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958619)
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:21pm CDT
I'm right there with you. While I love cartoon based Megatron's head, I really have a special place for the toy version of G1 Megatron. He has such a distinct and unique look ... I just love seeing it whether it's in artwork or as the toy. It's just damn cool.
Dark colored Shockwave is extremely welcomed.
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:21pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:And there is the Megatron I have wanted.
He will be pre-ordered. As Cobo-the-wise once said, Patience does pay off
I'm right there with you. While I love cartoon based Megatron's head, I really have a special place for the toy version of G1 Megatron. He has such a distinct and unique look ... I just love seeing it whether it's in artwork or as the toy. It's just damn cool.
Dark colored Shockwave is extremely welcomed.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958620)
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:28pm CDT
I just want to clarify this. I don't think any of us "hate the cartoons" look. Those of us who aren't fans of the flat plain panels just want the level of detailing from the toys or manga applied to the general cartoon look. Big difference there.
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:28pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Toy accurate Megatron should quiet the "I hate cartoons" folk for at least a while.
I just want to clarify this. I don't think any of us "hate the cartoons" look. Those of us who aren't fans of the flat plain panels just want the level of detailing from the toys or manga applied to the general cartoon look. Big difference there.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958622)
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:35pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:35pm CDT
Time to figure out a trigger crotch transformation
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958623)
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:37pm CDT
Takara has had a long history with the ridiculous lavender color. While the color purple might come across occasionally as "lavender" in the cartoon from time to time, I don't think any of us actually perceive those lighter colors as being the actual colors of those figures. It's like the use of blue for comic book "accurate" black. I realized when I was reading the comics way back in the day that the colors in the book weren't accurate, just like "purple" Soundwave from the Marvel comics should have been blue. Just because Soundwave was purple in the comics doesn't mean I want a comic book "accurate" Soundwave. Please, Primus, no thank you. Takara has taken "cartoon" accuracy to an absurd level instead of a common sense level. Wish they'd snap out of it and would quit using lavender. There's no place for it. It's regular purple or dark purple, Takara.
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:37pm CDT
MagicDeath wrote:So, I just looked at some Shockwave pictures, and I can’t figure out where the lavender color scheme is from. It might be my colorbindness, though. Anyone know?
Takara has had a long history with the ridiculous lavender color. While the color purple might come across occasionally as "lavender" in the cartoon from time to time, I don't think any of us actually perceive those lighter colors as being the actual colors of those figures. It's like the use of blue for comic book "accurate" black. I realized when I was reading the comics way back in the day that the colors in the book weren't accurate, just like "purple" Soundwave from the Marvel comics should have been blue. Just because Soundwave was purple in the comics doesn't mean I want a comic book "accurate" Soundwave. Please, Primus, no thank you. Takara has taken "cartoon" accuracy to an absurd level instead of a common sense level. Wish they'd snap out of it and would quit using lavender. There's no place for it. It's regular purple or dark purple, Takara.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958624)
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:38pm CDT
Yah, I think that's the only thing missing here. I'm with you on this one, ScottyP.
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:38pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Time to figure out a trigger crotch transformation
Yah, I think that's the only thing missing here. I'm with you on this one, ScottyP.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958627)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:59pm CDT
what about the marvel comicbook accurate megs
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:59pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Toy accurate Megatron should quiet the "I hate cartoons" folk for at least a while.
what about the marvel comicbook accurate megs
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958629)
Posted by fenrir72 on May 9th, 2018 @ 11:13pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on May 9th, 2018 @ 11:13pm CDT
Takara Tomy mall exclusives for the MP Laserwave and Megs? Laserwave looks more Takara 1985 toy accurate purple by the looks of it.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958639)
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:16am CDT
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:16am CDT
Looks like I need them lol. Except shocks.
Should I wait for a more toy accurate sunny?
Should I wait for a more toy accurate sunny?
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958640)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:18am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:18am CDT
What? Takara, how rude!
And he's even packed with a left translucent hand, like I wanted.
More stock photos HERE.
And he's even packed with a left translucent hand, like I wanted.
Cyberpath wrote: (26 Jun 2016)
Kind of wish Takara had included a transparent left hand, too. So he could do this...
Weeee!
More stock photos HERE.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958645)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:31am CDT
His purple wasn't always a consistent shade..
But it was generally this dark tone.
Posted by Cyberpath on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:31am CDT
MagicDeath wrote:So, I just looked at some Shockwave pictures, and I can’t figure out where the lavender color scheme is from. It might be my colorbindness, though. Anyone know?
Also, I was thinking that I should pick up an MP Shockwave when they released him in a darker color. I’ll probably pick this one up.
His purple wasn't always a consistent shade..
But it was generally this dark tone.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958669)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:25am CDT
I do. I always recall Shockwave being light purple in the cartoons and dark purple in the comics. Since the cartoon was what I saw first, that's where my mind is locked.
I also feel like the darker color is going to make him look smaller, which is a bad thing for that figure.
Edit:
Human memory for color isn't great:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/BF03197418
Our vision also changes as we age, but that would largely affect perception of depth, since changes in how we perceive color would probably occur before we have memory.
I guess another potentially important factor is that I was 1-2yrs old when the cartoon first aired. I grew up with VHS recordings and later the chopshopped G2 re-airing. Perhaps the colors faded some?
Posted by Dr. Caelus on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:25am CDT
Seibertron wrote:MagicDeath wrote:So, I just looked at some Shockwave pictures, and I can’t figure out where the lavender color scheme is from. It might be my colorbindness, though. Anyone know?
Takara has had a long history with the ridiculous lavender color. While the color purple might come across occasionally as "lavender" in the cartoon from time to time, I don't think any of us actually perceive those lighter colors as being the actual colors of those figures.
I do. I always recall Shockwave being light purple in the cartoons and dark purple in the comics. Since the cartoon was what I saw first, that's where my mind is locked.
I also feel like the darker color is going to make him look smaller, which is a bad thing for that figure.
Edit:
Human memory for color isn't great:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/BF03197418
Our vision also changes as we age, but that would largely affect perception of depth, since changes in how we perceive color would probably occur before we have memory.
I guess another potentially important factor is that I was 1-2yrs old when the cartoon first aired. I grew up with VHS recordings and later the chopshopped G2 re-airing. Perhaps the colors faded some?
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958675)
Posted by angtre on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:59am CDT
Posted by angtre on May 10th, 2018 @ 7:59am CDT
Megaplex variant in 3, 2, 1...
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958713)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 10th, 2018 @ 11:34am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on May 10th, 2018 @ 11:34am CDT
Shockwave looks good. I'm not sure I'll get him over Quakeblast (who is both ridiculously affordable AND a really, really good figure) but were I to get any version of that mold it would be that.
Megatron looks pretty ace too, I'm almost tempted by that version.
Megatron looks pretty ace too, I'm almost tempted by that version.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958729)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 10th, 2018 @ 1:06pm CDT
Discoloration of the masters is a major problem with restoration and upgrading footage to HD (I don't see the point in HD, really), so anything is a close approximation at best. I don't suppose the color codes are included with the original animation models?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 10th, 2018 @ 1:06pm CDT
Caelus wrote:I guess another potentially important factor is that I was 1-2yrs old when the cartoon first aired. I grew up with VHS recordings and later the chopshopped G2 re-airing. Perhaps the colors faded some?
Discoloration of the masters is a major problem with restoration and upgrading footage to HD (I don't see the point in HD, really), so anything is a close approximation at best. I don't suppose the color codes are included with the original animation models?
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958775)
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on May 10th, 2018 @ 5:27pm CDT
Once they release the 1986 in 4k then yes we will see the major difference. Not only that but high dynamic range will be implemented into the film also.
I find it puzzling how people say HD, FHD, and UHD is no different than 480p signal coming from a DVD.
A FHD 1080P signal blows any dvd's 480p signal out of the water.
Shockwave in the cartoons was actually both colors of purple. In the 1986 movie he is closer to mp-29+ . While mp-29 is colored after the sunbow cartoon.
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on May 10th, 2018 @ 5:27pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Caelus wrote:I guess another potentially important factor is that I was 1-2yrs old when the cartoon first aired. I grew up with VHS recordings and later the chopshopped G2 re-airing. Perhaps the colors faded some?
Discoloration of the masters is a major problem with restoration and upgrading footage to HD (I don't see the point in HD, really), so anything is a close approximation at best. I don't suppose the color codes are included with the original animation models?
Once they release the 1986 in 4k then yes we will see the major difference. Not only that but high dynamic range will be implemented into the film also.
I find it puzzling how people say HD, FHD, and UHD is no different than 480p signal coming from a DVD.
A FHD 1080P signal blows any dvd's 480p signal out of the water.
Shockwave in the cartoons was actually both colors of purple. In the 1986 movie he is closer to mp-29+ . While mp-29 is colored after the sunbow cartoon.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958796)
Posted by Hydrargyrus on May 10th, 2018 @ 9:15pm CDT
This is what I needed to see. Thanks.
I do think that the brighter MP Shockwave is acceptable (don’t have it, though), but LG Shockwave and Galvatron are definitely ridiculous.
Posted by Hydrargyrus on May 10th, 2018 @ 9:15pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:MagicDeath wrote:So, I just looked at some Shockwave pictures, and I can’t figure out where the lavender color scheme is from. It might be my colorbindness, though. Anyone know?
Also, I was thinking that I should pick up an MP Shockwave when they released him in a darker color. I’ll probably pick this one up.
His purple wasn't always a consistent shade..
But it was generally this dark tone.
This is what I needed to see. Thanks.
I do think that the brighter MP Shockwave is acceptable (don’t have it, though), but LG Shockwave and Galvatron are definitely ridiculous.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958797)
Posted by NTESHFT on May 10th, 2018 @ 9:35pm CDT
Posted by NTESHFT on May 10th, 2018 @ 9:35pm CDT
Masterpiece BW Megatron....wheres that shut up and take my money gif at when I need it? I can't wait to see full color pics. I'm gonna guess he will be around the $230 range?
I never really thought too much about the preference of the toy (cartoon accurate versus toy accurate) until now. I like cartoon accurate myself. For me that's where it started. Plus back then I didn't understand why certain toys,like Ironhide, looked nothing like the cartoon. But ,of course knowing the history now, I get it.
I never really thought too much about the preference of the toy (cartoon accurate versus toy accurate) until now. I like cartoon accurate myself. For me that's where it started. Plus back then I didn't understand why certain toys,like Ironhide, looked nothing like the cartoon. But ,of course knowing the history now, I get it.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958855)
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2018 @ 7:41am CDT
I'm sure the animators probably had something they used, but the production team wasn't that specific (and probably didn't care about specifics) which probably lead to some of the wild color variations. The production team binders were in black and white, probably because only the character designers and Hasbro higher ups needed them in color, but you can still tell Shockwave was supposed to be dark in color.
The note in the bottom center is telling the artist to "change the light blue rangefinder to light pink/purple". Very specific.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on May 11th, 2018 @ 7:41am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Caelus wrote:I guess another potentially important factor is that I was 1-2yrs old when the cartoon first aired. I grew up with VHS recordings and later the chopshopped G2 re-airing. Perhaps the colors faded some?
Discoloration of the masters is a major problem with restoration and upgrading footage to HD (I don't see the point in HD, really), so anything is a close approximation at best. I don't suppose the color codes are included with the original animation models?
I'm sure the animators probably had something they used, but the production team wasn't that specific (and probably didn't care about specifics) which probably lead to some of the wild color variations. The production team binders were in black and white, probably because only the character designers and Hasbro higher ups needed them in color, but you can still tell Shockwave was supposed to be dark in color.
The note in the bottom center is telling the artist to "change the light blue rangefinder to light pink/purple". Very specific.
Emerje
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (1958864)
Posted by Cyberpath on May 11th, 2018 @ 8:58am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on May 11th, 2018 @ 8:58am CDT
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Posted by Ironhidensh on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:17am CDT
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:17am CDT
What was the retail (domestic) price upon release for Shockwave?
$209 seems a tad high.
$209 seems a tad high.
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Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:48am CDT
As Emerje wrote elsewhere, its pretty close all considering. I remember really hating the price of the original release.
On amiami (whch include taxes), the domestice (meaning Japan) price for Shockwave was 18,144 JPY (165 USD). However, since it wasnt exclusive we could all purchase from other retailers which gave discounts. Amiami for instance was 12,090 JPY (110 USD). Thats the price I paid plus shipping.
He was 160 USD at import shops like BBTS (so very close to the MSRP in Japan).
The MSRP this time around is 21,600JPY, so 3000 higher than the original. Thats around US$198, and once again BBTS aint that much higher than MSRP. Since this one is a TTMall exclusive, thre isnt any option to purchase at 30% off from other Japanese shops.
In short, this item is 30$ more in Japan and since there is no 30% off option, it seems like a major jump.
Posted by william-james88 on May 11th, 2018 @ 9:48am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:What was the retail (domestic) price upon release for Shockwave?
$209 seems a tad high.
As Emerje wrote elsewhere, its pretty close all considering. I remember really hating the price of the original release.
On amiami (whch include taxes), the domestice (meaning Japan) price for Shockwave was 18,144 JPY (165 USD). However, since it wasnt exclusive we could all purchase from other retailers which gave discounts. Amiami for instance was 12,090 JPY (110 USD). Thats the price I paid plus shipping.
He was 160 USD at import shops like BBTS (so very close to the MSRP in Japan).
The MSRP this time around is 21,600JPY, so 3000 higher than the original. Thats around US$198, and once again BBTS aint that much higher than MSRP. Since this one is a TTMall exclusive, thre isnt any option to purchase at 30% off from other Japanese shops.
In short, this item is 30$ more in Japan and since there is no 30% off option, it seems like a major jump.
Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece MP-29+ Boei Sanbo (Defense Officer) Laserwave and MP-36+ Megatron Revealed (2008205)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 5th, 2019 @ 4:51am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on February 5th, 2019 @ 4:51am CST
Rumour: MP Bumblebee v2 is in the works.
If true, perhaps they will have him transform into a "chibi" beetle this time? (That might work better next to characters such as Gears.)
And probably more yellow. And more cartoon-accurate, more articulation.. etc. etc.
Source: "TTemploy" @2005
If true, perhaps they will have him transform into a "chibi" beetle this time? (That might work better next to characters such as Gears.)
And probably more yellow. And more cartoon-accurate, more articulation.. etc. etc.
Source: "TTemploy" @2005
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Posted by ZeroWolf on February 5th, 2019 @ 5:41am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 5th, 2019 @ 5:41am CST
So this is still very much a rumour at this junction, but two of our fellow Seibertron users, TFanPage101 and Cyberpath have shared with us a rumour first circulated on the TFW2005 boards by a user over there by the name of TTEmploy
The rumour states that the masterpiece following MP-44 will be none other than a new version of Bumblebee, with a robot mode closely resembling the G1 animation model and with an Alt mode to match the chibifed cartoon model which was done to match the original G1 toy.
The rumour also gives a run down on what he'll include and a Japanese price as well as his release date. These details are included in the original and subsequent posts. He also states that preorders will open on the twelfth of February. Apparently included is the figure itself, a Spike figure, two different faces, a gun effect part, a numberplate, seal and instructions.
Prehaps as proof to these claims, or as a reaction to the rumour, the TagHobby website created a listing for the figure, with matching details.
Here is what the listing says:
No source is given on the TagHobby site.
So again, it must be stressed that this is all rumours currently.
Till then why not have a look at Seibertron's own gallery of MP-21 Bumblebee to see the old version or check out a top 5 list of non-movie Bumblebee toys as compiled by several Seibertron.com users:
Transformers Masterpiece Bumblebee Gallery
Top Five Non-Movie Bumblebee Toys
What do you think of this? Would you pick up a new Bumblebee? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
The rumour states that the masterpiece following MP-44 will be none other than a new version of Bumblebee, with a robot mode closely resembling the G1 animation model and with an Alt mode to match the chibifed cartoon model which was done to match the original G1 toy.
The rumour also gives a run down on what he'll include and a Japanese price as well as his release date. These details are included in the original and subsequent posts. He also states that preorders will open on the twelfth of February. Apparently included is the figure itself, a Spike figure, two different faces, a gun effect part, a numberplate, seal and instructions.
Prehaps as proof to these claims, or as a reaction to the rumour, the TagHobby website created a listing for the figure, with matching details.
Here is what the listing says:
[BREAK NEWS]
TAKARATOMY於2019年9月推出變形金剛 MASTER PIECE系列 MP45 大黃蜂 Ver.2，暫時知道附有人偶Figure、武器及Effect部件，售價達日圓13,000(未含稅)，會有什麼新玩法，留意我們日後報導。
TAGHOBBY get the updated news!! TAKARATOMY will release the TRANSFORMERS Master Piece Series MP45 Blublebee Ver.2.0 in Sep 2019. It include figure, weapon and effect part. We are very surprise for the price of ver.2.0 is 13,000Yen(Not included tax).
No source is given on the TagHobby site.
So again, it must be stressed that this is all rumours currently.
Till then why not have a look at Seibertron's own gallery of MP-21 Bumblebee to see the old version or check out a top 5 list of non-movie Bumblebee toys as compiled by several Seibertron.com users:
Transformers Masterpiece Bumblebee Gallery
Top Five Non-Movie Bumblebee Toys
What do you think of this? Would you pick up a new Bumblebee? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
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Posted by Beachjezus on February 5th, 2019 @ 5:52am CST
Posted by Beachjezus on February 5th, 2019 @ 5:52am CST
Yikes
It’s like Masterpiece has rebooted with insane prices. And your next masterpiece is New Seekers. Just my prediction.
It’s like Masterpiece has rebooted with insane prices. And your next masterpiece is New Seekers. Just my prediction.
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Posted by Randomhero on February 5th, 2019 @ 5:58am CST
Posted by Randomhero on February 5th, 2019 @ 5:58am CST
I think the picture of original MP Bee’s face says it all and is everyone’s face with this news.
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:00am CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:00am CST
This is so pathetic it hurts; we've really come full circle here, haven't we, now it seems that all the old mp's are being made unofficially invalid because they aren't 'cartoon' enough. Can't wait for the price to be revealed to be $200 due to how many panels they had to use to get him to look that terrible; so to summarize my thoughts:
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Posted by Evil Eye on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:10am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:10am CST
MP Bumblebee 2.0? Really?
I mean, I guess the actually good one will come down in price on the aftermarket, but I couldn't think of a less necessary "remake" in the MP line if I tried. The Seekers? Yeah, the current mold is awful, they deserve a remake (albeit not how they'll probably end up, costing £300 a piece and taking three years to transform for the sake of """"accuracy""""). Sideswipe? I guess, he was the first MP car bot I suppose, though without going on a long rant all he really needs is better ankle and elbow articulation (the latter could be accomplished with a very basic retool) and IMO he'd be fine, you can even finagle a decent ab crunch out of his transformation joint. But...Bumblebee? I mean, if him turning into a realistic VW Beetle as oppose to a penny racer really activates your almonds, I guess, but honestly I always thought the fact he goes from an accurate Beetle into a pretty spot-on G1 Bumblebee with minimal kibbly bits and a sensible transformation is a selling point in itself.
I mean, I guess the actually good one will come down in price on the aftermarket, but I couldn't think of a less necessary "remake" in the MP line if I tried. The Seekers? Yeah, the current mold is awful, they deserve a remake (albeit not how they'll probably end up, costing £300 a piece and taking three years to transform for the sake of """"accuracy""""). Sideswipe? I guess, he was the first MP car bot I suppose, though without going on a long rant all he really needs is better ankle and elbow articulation (the latter could be accomplished with a very basic retool) and IMO he'd be fine, you can even finagle a decent ab crunch out of his transformation joint. But...Bumblebee? I mean, if him turning into a realistic VW Beetle as oppose to a penny racer really activates your almonds, I guess, but honestly I always thought the fact he goes from an accurate Beetle into a pretty spot-on G1 Bumblebee with minimal kibbly bits and a sensible transformation is a selling point in itself.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:24am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:24am CST
It does seem really unnecessary to me, especially since there is still others to do (imagine how much a masterpiece triple changing Astrotrain would cost...)
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Posted by angtre on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:36am CST
Posted by angtre on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:36am CST
I'm not into cartoon-accurate toys very much, as I prefer the additional detail of the first MPs. So for me, should this rumor be true, this is a "no".
Still, a chibi Bumblebee might mean finally getting MP Cliffjumper.
Still, a chibi Bumblebee might mean finally getting MP Cliffjumper.
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Posted by ThunderThruster on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:40am CST
Posted by ThunderThruster on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:40am CST
Really? How about finishing off the rest of the Ark crew before hitting the reset/reboot/redo button on characters that already ready have decent representation!
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:58am CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 5th, 2019 @ 6:58am CST
I legitimately feel bad for mp collectors; the line (once meant to be coherent) has been pseudo rebooted so many times, having the cast even look like they belong together is now impossible 
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Posted by Cyberpath on February 5th, 2019 @ 7:16am CST
I disagree!
(Tracks is on the desk atm.)
⠀
Posted by Cyberpath on February 5th, 2019 @ 7:16am CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:I legitimately feel bad for mp collectors; the line (once meant to be coherent) has been pseudo rebooted so many times, having the cast even look like they belong together is now impossible
I disagree!
(Tracks is on the desk atm.)
⠀
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Posted by Nathaniel Prime on February 5th, 2019 @ 7:19am CST
Sunstreaker and Sideswipe just look so perfect with each other. I love how they all look together. I guess a new MP Bee will be nice, but I'm trying to get the original, since I found the beautiful G2 version for 40$
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on February 5th, 2019 @ 7:19am CST
Cyberpath wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I legitimately feel bad for mp collectors; the line (once meant to be coherent) has been pseudo rebooted so many times, having the cast even look like they belong together is now impossible
I disagree!
(Tracks is on the desk atm.)
⠀
Sunstreaker and Sideswipe just look so perfect with each other. I love how they all look together. I guess a new MP Bee will be nice, but I'm trying to get the original, since I found the beautiful G2 version for 40$
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Posted by no-one on February 5th, 2019 @ 7:28am CST
Posted by no-one on February 5th, 2019 @ 7:28am CST
So you're saying MP Bee 2.0 with cartoon accurate alt-mode, but all I'm hearing is toy accurate alt-mode. 
I don't like the toon aesthetic direction the MP line is going, but I'd buy the fuck out of any SD BeetleBee you slap in front of me. The real world alt-mode of the current MP Bee bugs me.
I don't like the toon aesthetic direction the MP line is going, but I'd buy the fuck out of any SD BeetleBee you slap in front of me. The real world alt-mode of the current MP Bee bugs me.
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Posted by frogbat on February 5th, 2019 @ 7:30am CST
Posted by frogbat on February 5th, 2019 @ 7:30am CST
yeah think since mp10 - most figures are pretty much compatible in spite of some changes in the focus for the aesthetic (authentic vehicles vs the cartoon accuracy). Thing is at the end of the day, I personally think that cartoon accuracy has been the main objective for a long time. It's just that engineering has come to the point where Takara are getting closer and closer.
My main issue isn't the fact they're revisiting bumblebee, it's more that I'd rather have them finish the season 1 and two characters off or if they have to re visit a character, they should pick the seekers.
My main issue isn't the fact they're revisiting bumblebee, it's more that I'd rather have them finish the season 1 and two characters off or if they have to re visit a character, they should pick the seekers.
