Takara Tomy Legends Lio Convoy Revealed

maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

Freaking called it. No matter how much it does or doesn't look like him, if Hasbro releases a lionformer; Takara turns it into Lio Convoy.
At least this one looks a lot more like him and actually has his face unlike that disastrous Thundertron repaint.

I know it sounds like I'm being negative but this thing looks absolutely beautiful. Too bad the price tag's so high (due to, of course, being an exclusive) otherwise I'd be thinking very hard about it.

Well, looks like everyone's a dollar richer now

Take note that's not Alpha Trion's face, but I can't tell which Prime face it is.

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

Doubtful, but it is a really sweet repaint. Marvelous

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

Doubt it. Just order it online. Hopefully won't be a TakaraTomy mall exclusive.

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

I doubt it. They didnt do it last time when Takara did the same thing:



Not saying ti wont happen, but this really looks like the cases in the past where Takara and Hasbro just do 2 dfferent thing. Like the example above.

Funny enough, that mold above was also released as Alpha Trionser

I wonder what his bio will say. The last new Lio Convoy toy we got (excluding the Legend Commander Collection figure) had a bio that described him as the cartoon version having changed his name twice and having dimension-hopped from the Japanese cartoon universe circa post-Beast Wars Neo into the Prime universe.

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

They are. Its name is Alpha Trion.

In other words, this seems to be Takara's way of releasing the Alpha Trion mold in the Japanese market, apparently wanting it to not be Alpha Trion.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

Doubtful, but it is a really sweet repaint. Marvelous

i basically answered that question right after i posted. they might release it as a convention exclusive
but i highly doubt it

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Well, looks like everyone's a dollar richer now

Take note that's not Alpha Trion's face, but I can't tell which Prime face it is.

Looking closely, it seems to have the plates at the side that the Wave 3 Voyager Optimus does.
Unsurprisingly since they'd likely not release that mold as Optimus and just Octane (and probably Scourge somewhere down the line), so they're finding a use for that face like they did with Convobat.

Kurona wrote:Freaking called it. No matter how much it does or doesn't look like him, if Hasbro releases a lionformer; Takara turns it into Lio Convoy.
At least this one looks a lot more like him and actually has his face unlike that disastrous Thundertron repaint.

I know it sounds like I'm being negative but this thing looks absolutely beautiful. Too bad the price tag's so high (due to, of course, being an exclusive) otherwise I'd be thinking very hard about it.

Its not exclusive, its just a normal retail release of the legends line. its only expensive because the yen is high and TFSource passes their higher costs onto us. The toy is really only 30-35 quid in Japan, which is the same price you get hasbro voyagers at in Scotland, right?

Kurona wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Well, looks like everyone's a dollar richer now

Take note that's not Alpha Trion's face, but I can't tell which Prime face it is.

Looking closely, it seems to have the plates at the side that the Wave 3 Voyager Optimus does.
Unsurprisingly since they'd likely not release that mold as Optimus and just Octane (and probably Scourge somewhere down the line), so they're finding a use for that face like they did with Convobat.

So they're switching out Sovereign for Diac? Makes sense, as Apex is already in use for Super Ginrai. Shame though, I'd have loved to see a Daburu (read: White Leo) retool for him

will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

That all depends on if they're going to include either Brawn toy in the Legends line, though.

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

There is no problem with Brawn, he was never in the legends line yet.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Freaking called it. No matter how much it does or doesn't look like him, if Hasbro releases a lionformer; Takara turns it into Lio Convoy.
At least this one looks a lot more like him and actually has his face unlike that disastrous Thundertron repaint.

I know it sounds like I'm being negative but this thing looks absolutely beautiful. Too bad the price tag's so high (due to, of course, being an exclusive) otherwise I'd be thinking very hard about it.

Its not exclusive, its just a normal retail release of the legends line. its only expensive because the yen is high and TFSource passes their higher costs onto us. The toy is really only 30-35 quid in Japan, which is the same price you get hasbro voyagers at in Scotland, right?

Voyagers tend to be about 25 here... though I've seen rumours of standard retail price increases for them in Titans Return. They've already happened for Deluxes - 16/17 to 20, bloody outrageous - but I've yet to really see it happen for Voyagers, aside from Kapow selling them for 30 which I think is just an individual thing more than anything.
Is this a usual thing, then? TFSource marking up prices that high for Takara's toys?

Sabrblade wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

That all depends on if they're going to include either Brawn toy in the Legends line, though.

Titan Master in Legends, Legends Class in Adventure, possibly as his retool Outback as a Fallback *ba dum tsssssssssssssss*. For that matter, I'm half expecting Kickback to be placed in Adventure as well, to complement Bombshell and Sharpnel there.

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

There is no problem with Brawn, he was never in the legends line yet.

Except for the fact that he's dead circa the time that all the Headmaster guys came from. They'd have to explain his being alive again with some kind of resurrection story (which they could do, but the fact that they'd have to do that means that he couldn't just show up on his own without that kind of newly-made explanation).

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

There is no problem with Brawn, he was never in the legends line yet.

Except for the fact that he's dead circa the time that all the Headmaster guys came from. They'd have to explain his being alive again with some kind of resurrection story (which they could do, but the fact that they'd have to do that means that he couldn't just show up on his own without that kind of newly-made explanation).

do all of the toys have to connect with their comics in some way

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

There is no problem with Brawn, he was never in the legends line yet.

Except for the fact that he's dead circa the time that all the Headmaster guys came from. They'd have to explain his being alive again with some kind of resurrection story (which they could do, but the fact that they'd have to do that means that he couldn't just show up on his own without that kind of newly-made explanation).

do all of the toys have to connect with their comics in some way

Every TF Legends toy comes with a comic that promotes said toy within the continuity that the Legends comics take place in. Takara's very fond of creating an astute synergy between their toys and their fiction.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

There is no problem with Brawn, he was never in the legends line yet.

Except for the fact that he's dead circa the time that all the Headmaster guys came from. They'd have to explain his being alive again with some kind of resurrection story (which they could do, but the fact that they'd have to do that means that he couldn't just show up on his own without that kind of newly-made explanation).

do all of the toys have to connect with their comics in some way

Every TF Legends toy comes with a comic that promotes said toy within the continuity that the Legends comics take place in. Takara's very fond of creating an astute synergy between their toys and their fiction.

weel that would ruin any new toys for characters they kill off

Bumblebee21 wrote:do all of the toys have to connect with their comics in some way

No, all their comics have to connect with their toys The comics are written much after and are more of an extra. The legends universe itself is a new world based on the toyline.

Kurona wrote:Is this a usual thing, then? TFSource marking up prices that high for Takara's toys?

See for yourself:
http://tfsource.com/legends-series/lg35-super-ginrai/

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:will takara do megatron since the fusion cannon will most likely be for him and blitzwing would have his sword instead of the fusion cannon.

I'd say no because he's already represented in the line in the form of Galvatron's Titan Master Nucleon. Unlike the US portrayal, in the Legends manga he actually is Megatron, having popped out of his Leader Class body.

how would they put legends brawn in though

There is no problem with Brawn, he was never in the legends line yet.

Except for the fact that he's dead circa the time that all the Headmaster guys came from. They'd have to explain his being alive again with some kind of resurrection story (which they could do, but the fact that they'd have to do that means that he couldn't just show up on his own without that kind of newly-made explanation).

do all of the toys have to connect with their comics in some way

Every TF Legends toy comes with a comic that promotes said toy within the continuity that the Legends comics take place in. Takara's very fond of creating an astute synergy between their toys and their fiction.

weel that would ruin any new toys for characters they kill off

It's not Takara's fault that Hasbro killed off Brawn back in Transformers: The Movie (1986). They'll just have to write in a resurrection story to justify a TF Legends Brawn toy, probably using the Brawn animation error in "Carnage in C-Minor" as a starting point.

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:do all of the toys have to connect with their comics in some way

No, all their comics have to connect with their toys The comics are written much after and are more of an extra. The legends universe itself is a new world based on the toyline.

Kurona wrote:Is this a usual thing, then? TFSource marking up prices that high for Takara's toys?

See for yourself:
http://tfsource.com/legends-series/lg35-super-ginrai/

thats a tad confusing


they did the same thing with soundwave hes $90

Called it...along with alot of you apparently. Nice to see Lio is getting some love. Now if IDW would just add him to their cast.

Dear Primus, all these reveals are hurting my head...either way, I likely won't be getting A3 or Lio, due to cost concerns. Wallet only holds so much, unfortunately...

The yen is much stronger than the dollar now, as compared to last year, or even earlier this year. TFSource is a reseller, so they make their profit through a mark-up when they buy products overseas and resell it here in the U.S. Because it takes more dollars now to pay for products in Japan that cost about the same yen as they have for a while now, we, the U.S. consumers, get charged more to make up for the higher investment TFSource is paying to bring these products here. I sincerely don't think they're price gouging just to get richer, but increase the price to match the depreciating U.S. dollar and maintain their profit margin. Unfortunately, it's just kind of a hard time right now to be a U.S. collector of Japanese collectibles. Prices may go back down again if the dollar starts gaining on the yen once more.

All I have to say is that I prefer this version over Alpha Trion.

Youheidx is at it again, this time with Transformers Legends LG-21 Hard Head.

Primus' blessing came in a one two punch. Fortmax, Wheelie ,Rewind, Windblade and Weirdwolf (Broadcast is still on the way)

What I can say is......don't don't don't let the initial images unless it's by Alfes or Ryan (even then it's still hard to tell) as it depends on the quality of your PC monitor.

Weirdwolf's face, well his mouth part is orange and well so awesome. Fortmax too. Though a 20% recycled but the colors and appearance in person (or robot) so amazing! I can just forget about the lack of ramp and city mode. He is so AWESOME!

Lio Convoy? Awesome! Not sure if I'd buy this over Alpha Trion, but I might. Maybe. We'll see.

Personally I wanna see a TR Leader Class Big Convoy, with a "base mode" that looks like an ice age mammoth hut, a more articulated mammoth mode and an overall similar aesthetic to Alpha Trion/Transmetal 2s, with mostly mechanical detailing with the odd bit of organic fur/bone/flesh.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

They are. Its name is Alpha Trion.

His name is Alpha Trion.

His name is Alpha Trion.

HIS NAME IS ALPHA TRION!!



How did no one else do that yet?!

Seriously though. I like it. Much better than Alpha Trion. Only because I don't have any versions of Convoy as a Lion. Lio/Leo Convoy, always the bridesmaid never the bride for me.

Black Hat wrote:Lio Convoy? Awesome! Not sure if I'd buy this over Alpha Trion, but I might. Maybe. We'll see.

Personally I wanna see a TR Leader Class Big Convoy, with a "base mode" that looks like an ice age mammoth hut, a more articulated mammoth mode and an overall similar aesthetic to Alpha Trion/Transmetal 2s, with mostly mechanical detailing with the odd bit of organic fur/bone/flesh.

That sounds amazing. I didnt know I wanted that but i want it now. Like right now!

As for getting this over Alpha Trion, I hear you. The deal here is that this mold was made for alpha trion. It has the 2 alt modes referencing his previously concieved toys and is based on a design made specifically for him (like the unicorn lion horn which makes no sense on Li Convoy)

itscramtastic wrote:Seriously though. I like it. Much better than Alpha Trion. Only because I don't have any versions of Convoy as a Lion. Lio/Leo Convoy, always the bridesmaid never the bride for me.

That beign the case, why settle for a repaint of a toy made for alpha trion (see above) and not just get the actual Lio Convoy instead?

Also, if anyone cares, this is using the Sentinel Prime head.

Bumblebee21 wrote:i basically answered that question right after i posted. they might release it as a convention exclusive
but i highly doubt it

Yeah, your right its doubtful. Not only that but Hasbro releasing it as an exclusive wouldnt help anyone at all. The whole point of hoping for a Hasbro release of a Takara product is so that it can be more affordable and attainable for us. But as we saw with that Takara Voyager RID Grimlock, bringing that over to the US and turning it into an exclusive didnt do anything. Because its still only available for americans online and costs even more than the Takara one originally did since they paried it with bumblebee. So trading a toy that is exclusive to takara for a Hasbro exclusive is useless. If anyone wants this toy, they should just order it online, its not harder than buying any other toy online. And all in all, this price isnt bad considering Club figures of voyager scale would cost even more than this at initial release.

Can't say I'm surprised to see Takara releasing the mold as Lio Convoy. But I would've preferred if they did their take on A3, just to see how much better they could make it look.
I'm still missing any representation of A3 in my collection and the Hasbro one just doesn't do it for me color-wise

itscramtastic wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

They are. Its name is Alpha Trion.

His name is Alpha Trion.

His name is Alpha Trion.

HIS NAME IS ALPHA TRION!!



How did no one else do that yet?!

Seriously though. I like it. Much better than Alpha Trion. Only because I don't have any versions of Convoy as a Lion. Lio/Leo Convoy, always the bridesmaid never the bride for me.

I thought we weren't supposed to talk about Project Mayhem...

The only figure approximating Lio Convoy in my collection is Leobreaker from Cybertron. This interests me a bit..

Remember this guys, whenever Takara doesnt do a colour scheme Hasbro does (like this Alpha Trion) that turns the Hasbro version into a toy exclusive to Hasbro. Hasbro's Alpha Trion is now an exclusive Hasbro release and it sure beats the previous Alpha Trion who was exclusive to Takara.



Meaning it just got way more desireable with a whole new collector market (Japan) realizing they will have to import that figure to have the character as part of their collection.

Do I really need this many Optomi? It's over twice the original, so it better fix all the QC issues from the hasbro release. Now that I said that the entire upper torso probably won't work if I get it

From Takara:

This guy looks gorgeous, definitely pre-ordering him, gonna also try to get A3 as well as they're so different.

william-james88 wrote:Remember this guys, whenever Takara doesnt do a colour scheme Hasbro does (like this Alpha Trion) that turns the Hasbro version into a toy exclusive to Hasbro. Hasbro's Alpha Trion is now an exclusive Hasbro release and it sure beats the previous Alpha Trion who was exclusive to Takara. Meaning it just got way more desireable with a whole new collector market (Japan) realizing they will have to import that figure to have the character as part of their collection.

Wouldn't that mean that ordering from America would be cheaper since the Yen is stronger now? Also, I'm surprised stores like amiami and hlj don't sell hasbro products to Japan and the like since the figures all come from the same place, I'm genuinely confused about that

that black on mindwipe looks cool

And... pre-ordered through bbts! It was a bit of a tough pill to swallow that, for less than what I pre-ordered him for, I could get a3 and astrotrain, but, hopefully, better images can assuage me, because he is gorgeous

I don't even really know who Lio Convoy really is, and I think this is awesome. (I am, however, aware that the character exists, and what he looks like)

Hellscream9999 wrote:Wouldn't that mean that ordering from America would be cheaper since the Yen is stronger now? Also, I'm surprised stores like amiami and hlj don't sell hasbro products to Japan and the like since the figures all come from the same place, I'm genuinely confused about that

Cheaper than before but not cheaper than buying their version of the mold locally. They also get a heavy tax penalty and customs and shipping from the US to Japan is not cheap at all.

Your question about why stores dont stock both since they come from the same place can also be asked about why your TRU or Walmart dont stock both if they come from the same place. Its because they dont come from the same place. Hasbro and Takara are indepedent companies and they cant sell in eachother's market, contractually. Its like of Adidas and Nike shoes are made in the same factory, its still different companies, doesnt matter if it was made in the same factory or not. So if Amiami or HLJ want Hasbro products, they have to import them just like Red Mercury does in Japan.

Here is how much Alpha Trion is for Japanese people: He can only be gotten bunded with Astrotrain for 110$ (and notice he is sold out, like I said, its our turn to luck out with an exclusive).

http://www.redmercury.co.jp/shop/detail ... =RED-13447



And yes, thats right, Hasbro Sondwave costs 95$ for Japanese fans. Its the same price TFSource charges here for the Takara version, proving that both sell for the same price point in their respective markets.

Hellscream9999 wrote:And... pre-ordered through bbts! It was a bit of a tough pill to swallow that, for less than what I pre-ordered him for, I could get a3 and astrotrain, but, hopefully, better images can assuage me, because he is gorgeous

I did the same, not because I'm completely sold on Lio Convoy, but because I may not get the choice in the future, based on how quickly Legends Blurr, Scourge, and Wheelie sold out...

william-james88 wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Seriously though. I like it. Much better than Alpha Trion. Only because I don't have any versions of Convoy as a Lion. Lio/Leo Convoy, always the bridesmaid never the bride for me.

That being the case, why settle for a repaint of a toy made for alpha trion (see above) and not just get the actual Lio Convoy instead?

.

Wait, which one is the actual Lio Convoy? Thundertron? Or the BW one?

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder what his bio will say. The last new Lio Convoy toy we got (excluding the Legend Commander Collection figure) had a bio that described him as the cartoon version having changed his name twice and having dimension-hopped from the Japanese cartoon universe circa post-Beast Wars Neo into the Prime universe.

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

They are. Its name is Alpha Trion.

In other words, this seems to be Takara's way of releasing the Alpha Trion mold in the Japanese market, apparently wanting it to not be Alpha Trion.

Is there a reason that Takara won't eventaully release this mold of Alpha Trion as Alpha Trion?

Did someone once say that they don't follow IDW comic?

TK415 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder what his bio will say. The last new Lio Convoy toy we got (excluding the Legend Commander Collection figure) had a bio that described him as the cartoon version having changed his name twice and having dimension-hopped from the Japanese cartoon universe circa post-Beast Wars Neo into the Prime universe.

Bumblebee21 wrote:maybe hasbro will release a version of this to.

They are. Its name is Alpha Trion.

In other words, this seems to be Takara's way of releasing the Alpha Trion mold in the Japanese market, apparently wanting it to not be Alpha Trion.

Is there a reason that Takara won't eventaully release this mold of Alpha Trion as Alpha Trion?

Did someone once say that they don't follow IDW comic?

Most of the time they don't release redecos or minor retools of the same toy in a line; unless the respective characters were originally redecoes/minor retools of each other like the Seekers or Trailbreaker and Hoist.

TK415 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:In other words, this seems to be Takara's way of releasing the Alpha Trion mold in the Japanese market, apparently wanting it to not be Alpha Trion.

Is there a reason that Takara won't eventaully release this mold of Alpha Trion as Alpha Trion?

Did someone once say that they don't follow IDW comic?

Two words: mold repetition. TakaraTomy is doubling their efforts in avoiding that, while Hasbro does the opposite. Plus, Alpha Trion is already represented in the line by that Minimus Ambus redeco, and he's a relatively minor character there. If anything, a Legends Alpha Trin would be an exclusive.

And good eye to the one who noticed Lio Convoy uses Infinitus:


Transformers Titans Return Infinitus Gallery

I wonder if Sovereign will be repurposed somewhere down the line.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And good eye to the one who noticed Lio Convoy uses Infinitus

it was me