Takara Tomy Announces New 30th Anniversary Transformers Legends Line

Huh, I'd skip on the Rattrap personally, but I've always wanted to get one of the two accurate Primals (The one being featured here and the Telemocha one)

Not sure where the red beast eyes are coming from (Call of the Wild? Just matching bot mode?), but the rest of Rattle's deco might be a bit more show-accurate. If Rattrap's case hadn't been split up for later and I had it in hand, I might be able to say for sure.

And his guns remain clear and unpaintable for this release too. Huh. This trend of softer plastic is really starting to concern me. Rhinox's butt was one thing, but it's starting to creep into places it needn't be.

I want an primal but one thats in scale with the others, voyager please.

awww. "Legends" made me think this might be a Legion/Cyberverse size line, and the BW bots would be great for that scale. if we'd gotten painted guns I'd probably be sold on Ratty, but as it is right now, I don't see it nice enough to pay the extra. Primal is ok, he's just Primal. But I'd like to see more from this line. I know it has potential, lad.

Well, looks like we have found the sequel to Japan's Generations, and the outlet for the current Generations

Optimus Primal is the one toy I am extremely annoyed I had given to my brother to play with. The gorilla face/chest panel has gone forever, as are most of the missiles and the mutant face. Everything else works perfectly fine, and he still resists on the shelf, but he's quite glaringly incomplete in both modes.


This might tempt me..

Sounds like this may be their new Generations line?

I'm not interested in either Rattrap or Primal (Got the TRU one a long time back with the accurate head and I'm happy with it). I am very interested to see where this goes from here.

Now, this is what I think of when I think of a 30th Anniversary line. "Thrilling 30" my ass! Not so thrilling when half of it is shitty repaints of crappy movie figures and a quarter of it is Asian market rereleases of the other quarter, which are impossible to get SDCC exclusives.

Unfortunately I don't see myself picking up either of these. The Rattrap, though more robot accurate, I think I prefer the Hasbro beast mode accurate one. And the Optimus is basically just a repaint of the 10th Anniversary remold of the original, which I already own both versions of. Would have preferred a new mold.

But I really hope they continue this trend and do more Beasties.

UltraPrimal wrote:Now, this is what I think of when I think of a 30th Anniversary line. "Thrilling 30" my ass! Not so thrilling when half of it is shitty repaints of crappy movie figures

which molds in the line are movie repaints?

Takara, you're killing me here! I'm already having enough difficulty tracking down all your Telemocha figures and now you throw more new Beast Wars toys at me?! Have mercy, Takara!

Bumblevivisector wrote:Not sure where the red beast eyes are coming from (Call of the Wild? Just matching bot mode?),

Rattrap's black rat eyes turned red whenever he was in robot mode:

Rated X wrote:I want an primal but one thats in scale with the others, voyager please.

This one is in scale with Rattrap, since that Rattrap is a BIG Deluxe.

The previous Japanese Deluxe Primal toy is already in scale with the others.




What we need is a taller Dinobot.

I've fine with this Primal reissue. It's a great mold that still holds up well over 15 years later. I really doubt that the way Hasbro and Takara have been making figures lately they'd be able to top the original. Sure the gorilla mode is still a little wonky, but the updated bot mode really lets this figure shine.

Now if they wanted to make a bigger Transmetal Primal I wouldn't have a problem with that.

Emerje

Awwww, why didn't they use the most ACCURATE remold of Primal, this one just has the new robot head you know what, why am I complaining if I know im buying it anyway! (goes to corner)

The Thuggernaut wrote:Awwww, why didn't they use the most ACCURATE remold of Primal, tbis one just hasthe new robot head you know what, why am I complaining if I know im buying it anyway! (goes to corner)

No, this one has the remolded robot chest/gorilla face. This is the more accurate one.

Optimizzy wrote:

UltraPrimal wrote:Now, this is what I think of when I think of a 30th Anniversary line. "Thrilling 30" my ass! Not so thrilling when half of it is shitty repaints of crappy movie figures

which molds in the line are movie repaints?

He's talking about the special "# of 30" releases, you can find the current list in this thread.

Sabrblade wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:Awwww, why didn't they use the most ACCURATE remold of Primal, tbis one just hasthe new robot head you know what, why am I complaining if I know im buying it anyway! (goes to corner)

No, this one has the remolded robot chest/gorilla face. This is the more accurate one.

Really? It is! I must be going deaf, it is the most accurate mold the paint job threw me off big time, even though it's not the show accurate paintjob I'm still getting it

The Thuggernaut wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:Awwww, why didn't they use the most ACCURATE remold of Primal, tbis one just hasthe new robot head you know what, why am I complaining if I know im buying it anyway! (goes to corner)

No, this one has the remolded robot chest/gorilla face. This is the more accurate one.

Really? It is! I must be going deaf, it is the most accurate mold the paint job threw me off big time, even though it's not the show accurate paintjob I'm still getting it

What do you mean you must be going deaf?

Siger wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

The Thuggernaut wrote:Awwww, why didn't they use the most ACCURATE remold of Primal, tbis one just hasthe new robot head you know what, why am I complaining if I know im buying it anyway! (goes to corner)

No, this one has the remolded robot chest/gorilla face. This is the more accurate one.

Really? It is! I must be going deaf, it is the most accurate mold the paint job threw me off big time, even though it's not the show accurate paintjob I'm still getting it

What do you mean you must be going deaf?

That's just how I roll

No, what we need is a COLOR ACCURATE version of dinobot. all i ever see is dinobot with the purple in bot mode, its frusterates me to no end Show accurate colors please!

Whitemest wrote:No, what we need is a COLOR ACCURATE version of dinobot. all i ever see is dinobot with the purple in bot mode, its frusterates me to no end Show accurate colors please!

The one in the pics I posted is colored show-accurate.

But, it's shorter than Rhinox, when Dinobot was the tallest season 1 Maximal.

Sabrblade wrote:

Whitemest wrote:No, what we need is a COLOR ACCURATE version of dinobot. all i ever see is dinobot with the purple in bot mode, its frusterates me to no end Show accurate colors please!

The one in the pics I posted is colored show-accurate.

But, it's shorter than Rhinox, when Dinobot was the tallest season 1 Maximal.

Im good with the size of deluxe dinobot. How many times did he fide on ratraps back ? He really doesnt need to be that big. A raptor is not a huge dino.

Rated X wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Whitemest wrote:No, what we need is a COLOR ACCURATE version of dinobot. all i ever see is dinobot with the purple in bot mode, its frusterates me to no end Show accurate colors please!

The one in the pics I posted is colored show-accurate.

But, it's shorter than Rhinox, when Dinobot was the tallest season 1 Maximal.

Im good with the size of deluxe dinobot. How many times did he fide on ratraps back ? He really doesnt need to be that big. A raptor is not a huge dino.

Rattrap got bigger as a Transmetal. Or at least bulkier, since all that extra bulk made him easier for Dinobot to ride (who was still rather hunched over and cramped whenever he rode the still smaller-than-him Rattrap).

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

UltraPrimal wrote:Now, this is what I think of when I think of a 30th Anniversary line. "Thrilling 30" my ass! Not so thrilling when half of it is shitty repaints of crappy movie figures

which molds in the line are movie repaints?

He's talking about the special "# of 30" releases, you can find the current list in this thread.

Yeah, sorry. Meant the list of 30 special exclusive figures commemorating the anniversary, not the Thrilling 30 line aka Generations 2014. Haven't perused the thread, but according to TFWiki...

01 – SDCC 2013 Metroplex
02 – SDCC 2013 Prime: Beast Hunters Shockwave’s Lab
03 – Platinum Edition Ultra Magnus
04 – Platinum Edition Grimlock vs. Bruticus
05 – ACGHK 2013 Metroplex
06 – Cybertron Con 2013 Prime: Beast Hunters Shockwave’s Lab
07 – Cybertron Con 2013 Prime: Beast Hunters Beast Hunter Optimus Prime
08 – Masterpiece Acid Storm
09 – Masterpiece Soundwave
10 – Platinum Edition Predaking
11 – Construct-Bots Predaking
12 – Year of the Horse Platinum Edition Optimus Prime
13 – Year of the Horse Platinum Edition Starscream
14 – Age of Extinction First Edition Optimus Prime
24 – Age of Extinction Evolution 2-Pack Grimlock
25 – Age of Extinction Evolution 2-Pack Slug
26 – Age of Extinction Evolution 2-Pack Strafe
28 – Age of Extinction Smash & Change Silver Knight Optimus Prime
29 – Age of Extinction Silver Knight Optimus Prime & Grimlock
30 – Fan Built Bot Windblade

Granted, there's still 9 left to be revealed, and there's only 6 movie figures, and there's only a couple repeats, I'm still pretty underwhelmed when this is what we were promised:

Of that teaser, all we've gotten is Whirl, Shrapnel, Laserbeak, and Rumble. Maybe Barricade if you count the TFCC version. And though most of the characters on this page I don't care about, I really would have wanted a new Greatshot/Sixshot figure. Defensor and Sky Lynx would have been cool too.

UltraPrimal wrote:I'm still pretty underwhelmed when this is what we were promised:

Of that teaser, all we've gotten is Whirl, Shrapnel, Laserbeak, and Rumble. Maybe Barricade if you count the TFCC version. And though most of the characters on this page I don't care about, I really would have wanted a new Greatshot/Sixshot figure. Defensor and Sky Lynx would have been cool too.

That's not a toy teaser. That's a teaser for the Transformers: The Ultimate Pop-Up Universe book. All that artwork was gathered together and put into that pop-up book.

This is the most adorable thing ever:
http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/search/legends/index.html
http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/toy/event/2014/06/web.html

A Transformers: Legends web comic by Hayato Sakamoto.

It appears to be an office comedy starring the Beast Wars cast as "TF Toy Otaku" (TF toy fans). They're all wearing business neckties and love TF toys/merchandise from all of the past 30 years. So there are a LOT of Easter eggs to be found in the toys that they have.

From what I can tell, these yon-koma gags revolve around the "Generation Gap", with young Rattrap (or Rattle-kun) expressing his love for Beast Wars and the others either not having heard of it or unwilling to accept it.

A few things to note:

- "Axalon" is mentioned, don't know if it's the company name.
- It seems the Beast Wars characters have kept their Japanese vocal tics, with Rhinox' -dana, Cheetor's -nyan and Silverbolt's -desu.
- We should keep an eye on what aspect of Transformers fandom each character represents. Primal seems to be the "G1-purist" of rejecting the new, Rattrap is the young enthusiast and Rhinox... well, the modern collector who uses the current, American, terms.
- Rhinox has a mustache!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Rhinox has a mustache!

It appears to be some sort of toothbrush mustache.

I love that Primal is holding Animated Optimus. That is awesome on multiple levels.

Metro Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Rhinox has a mustache!

It appears to be some sort of toothbrush mustache.

It appears to be a Block 'stache.

Kinda like some Austrian guy.

RhA wrote:

Metro Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Rhinox has a mustache!

It appears to be some sort of toothbrush mustache.

It appears to be a Block 'stache.

Kinda like some Austrian guy.

J. Jonah Jamieson is Austrian?

RhA wrote:

Metro Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Rhinox has a mustache!

It appears to be some sort of toothbrush mustache.

It appears to be a Block 'stache.

Kinda like some Austrian guy.

Or Charlie Chaplin.

i preordered rattrap. im a big enough beast wars fan that ill probably like him even if the differences are minor. im just happy to see another figure go to takara. these days you just never know what theyll get and what the wont.

so... heres an image from the tokyo toy show.



anyone else wonder why he's exactly the same as the hasbro rattrap? or quite likely IS the hasbro rattrap?

shajaki wrote:so... heres an image from the tokyo toy show.



anyone else wonder why he's exactly the same as the hasbro rattrap? or quite likely IS the hasbro rattrap?

TFormers doesn't allow hotlinking, so your pic is broken.

As for why, Takara likely didn't have theirs ready and so used Hasbro's as a placeholder preview for what is to come of their figure.

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:so... heres an image from the tokyo toy show. anyone else wonder why he's exactly the same as the hasbro rattrap? or quite likely IS the hasbro rattrap?

TFormers doesn't allow hotlinking, so your pic is broken.

As for why, Takara likely didn't have theirs ready and so used Hasbro's as a placeholder preview for what is to come of their figure.

crap. it worked in the preview...
anyways, i was slightly worried because i dont think ive ever seen takara show off a hasbro specific product.

Sabrblade wrote:

RhA wrote:

Metro Prime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Rhinox has a mustache!

It appears to be some sort of toothbrush mustache.

It appears to be a Block 'stache.

Kinda like some Austrian guy.

J. Jonah Jamieson is Austrian?

Tripple J wins.

shajaki wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:so... heres an image from the tokyo toy show. anyone else wonder why he's exactly the same as the hasbro rattrap? or quite likely IS the hasbro rattrap?

TFormers doesn't allow hotlinking, so your pic is broken.

As for why, Takara likely didn't have theirs ready and so used Hasbro's as a placeholder preview for what is to come of their figure.

crap. it worked in the preview...
anyways, i was slightly worried because i dont think ive ever seen takara show off a hasbro specific product.

It happens, usually when they don't have their deco redy, and the usual reaction is "FAIL, I DON'T NEED THAT, IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE CHEAPER HASBRO VERSION!", which in turn is usually followed by "F**K" whent he figure is released and it turns out the deco is different.


This line is interessting. It does seem to be the new Tak Generations line, and I like how it seems to be very BW centric.

Comics #3 and #4 are up, featuring Silverbolt, Tigatron, Airazor, plus Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy

Transformers Legends yonkoma page

And as I predicted, each character represents a different aspect. Tigatron's is possibly the most off from the original, being really into the ladies (even referencing TM2 Blackarachnia bra!), and Airazor, well... at least they kept her US gender

Courtesy of the Agabyss.com Twitter feed we have images of three additional figures to be released in Takara Tomy's Transformers Legends line; Roadbuster, Whirl, and Tankor. Each sports an alternative deco to their Hasbro Generations counterparts. Enough of a difference to import? Let us know after you check out the images mirrored below.

Aw man, those are so much nicer!

Sabrblade wrote:Aw man, those are so much nicer!

Forget that, how can TakaraTomy get away with Whirl and Roadbuster? I demand details!

At a first glance, only whirl looks different. Im good with the hasbro versions, screw these versions. Wheres the god damn show accurate skids everybody wants ?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Comics #3 and #4 are up, featuring Silverbolt, Tigatron, Airazor, plus Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy

Transformers Legends yonkoma page

And as I predicted, each character represents a different aspect. Tigatron's is possibly the most off from the original, being really into the ladies (even referencing TM2 Blackarachnia bra!), and Airazor, well... at least they kept her US gender

Would you or another fan be willing to translate these comics for the non-Japanese speaking audience? They look hilarious.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

The only one with any big differences is Whirl with his blue cockpit an feet as opposed to black.

Different enough to import = No.

And I just got a Roadbuster.

Seems like the Tomy version won't come with the decals(?)Instant get! I'll get the Tomy RB in 'bot mode and keep the hasbro in vehicle mode. Whirl will sure 'cause the high priced ebay Whirl's to drop like rocks.

Mindmaster wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

Mad genius? Please explain?

fenrir72 wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Takara, you mad genius you.

Mad genius? Please explain?

As you recall, Roadbuster and Whirl made up the Deluxe Vehicles. There was actually a third, tank-like robot in the line they originated from, Special Armored Batallion Dorvack, which was called "Bonaparte Tulcas", the blue and gray tank you see to the far right. It was presumably not included into Generation One due to it not having a convincing robot mode. (more can be read here)

I was saying that Takara were comprised of mad geniuses because they're releasing their version of Tankor, whose deco and physique (tank-treaded feet, chicken legs, claw hand(s), and general bulkiness) coincidentally somewhat matches up to the Bonaparte Tulcas, thus making up the third never-to-be Deluxe Vehicle that someone could totally repurpose as so.

TLDR version: Takara is being sneaky and cheeky by releasing a blue and gray tank character in a wave that is comprised of modern reimaginings of the 1985 Deluxe Vehicles, whose ranks were ripped from another transforming robot toyline that had a third, blue and gray tank character that was never released as a Deluxe Vehicle in the original Generation One run for one reason or another.

Oh Tankor! Got it.

I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.

megatronus wrote:I'm definitely going to get Takara's Tankor to lead my Hasbro Drones, much as I have Takara's Scourge to lead my Hasbro Sweeps.

That's how I display my Scourage and Sweeps as well.