Takara Legends Blurr pictured with Targetmaster and Scourge pictured with Sweep Headmaster
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:00am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:03am CDT
Reread the news story again and take note of the orange silhouette in the background of Blurr's picture.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Wait, what? So is this reissued Legends Blurr a targetmaster now to match their Hot Rod and Kup? Which is what I would have liked even before they reintroduced Targetmasters to these Titans figures who had been Targetmasters in G1 rather than Headmasters?
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:05am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Reread the news story again and take note of the orange silhouette in the background of Blurr's picture.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Wait, what? So is this reissued Legends Blurr a targetmaster now to match their Hot Rod and Kup? Which is what I would have liked even before they reintroduced Targetmasters to these Titans figures who had been Targetmasters in G1 rather than Headmasters?
Um yeah i did but i don't get it. So... you have to buy Legends Doublecross to get Blurr's Targetmaster?
Posted by william-james88 on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:07am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Every time I see that goofy-looking mustache, pointed chin, and squared head combination, I can't help but be instantly reminded of.
I think more of this
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That they have. A relatively recent example would be AOE Evasion Mode Optimus coming not with Optimus' BFG, but with a fusion shotgun for DOTM Voyager Megatron
You beat me to it! Although apparently, that is the gun he uses in the film during that farm scene against cemetery wind so there was some added context.
Wolfman Jake wrote:If I'm right, we don't have any clue what the final waves of Legends or Voyagers will bring either. There's a lot more that could be coming down the pipeline for Transformers Legends after the latest reveals.
Your right, we have no concrete evidence. The only rumours we have is a Voyager Ape Face and Snap Dragon.
Posted by Kurona on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:08am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Reread the news story again and take note of the orange silhouette in the background of Blurr's picture.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Wait, what? So is this reissued Legends Blurr a targetmaster now to match their Hot Rod and Kup? Which is what I would have liked even before they reintroduced Targetmasters to these Titans figures who had been Targetmasters in G1 rather than Headmasters?
Um yeah i did but i don't get it. So... you have to buy Legends Doublecross to get Blurr's Targetmaster?
Yeah, Haywire comes with Doublecross.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:09am CDT
That's the idea.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Reread the news story again and take note of the orange silhouette in the background of Blurr's picture.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Wait, what? So is this reissued Legends Blurr a targetmaster now to match their Hot Rod and Kup? Which is what I would have liked even before they reintroduced Targetmasters to these Titans figures who had been Targetmasters in G1 rather than Headmasters?
Um yeah i did but i don't get it. So... you have to buy Legends Doublecross to get Blurr's Targetmaster?
Though, Doublecross was gonna come with Haywire for Blurr anyway regardless of whether or not Blurr was gonna be among the reissued figures. It was fortuitous that Blurr and Scourge both got chosen to be reissued since Doublecross and Sharkticon both come with an accessory meant for each of them, enabling Takara to advertise that fact even moreso now.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:10am CDT
Kurona wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Reread the news story again and take note of the orange silhouette in the background of Blurr's picture.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Wait, what? So is this reissued Legends Blurr a targetmaster now to match their Hot Rod and Kup? Which is what I would have liked even before they reintroduced Targetmasters to these Titans figures who had been Targetmasters in G1 rather than Headmasters?
Um yeah i did but i don't get it. So... you have to buy Legends Doublecross to get Blurr's Targetmaster?
Yeah, Haywire comes with Doublecross.
oh for... That's even WORSE for me. I was tempted to get a new Legends Blurr to replace mine that has the slightly messed up antenna (which occured while to trying to fix the sloppy QC my figure had) and now to get the Targetmaster I would like (especially since I originally owned Targetmaster Blurr in G1 during my childhood) I have to buy a whole other toy I do not want. If they'd packaged Haywire with the Blurr rerelease I'd be sorted...
Posted by Kurona on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:12am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:16am CDT
Kurona wrote:Yeah, it's pretty frustrating. I'm just glad Haywire's being released at all.
If only we could get Haywire as a seperate purchase. Or at least bundled with a few other Targetmaster gun guys even if just redecos and give them to other figures who need a bit more firepower. You get a Targetmaster...and you get a Targetmaster...and you get a Targetmaster...
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:18am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kurona wrote:Yeah, it's pretty frustrating. I'm just glad Haywire's being released at all.
If only we could get Haywire as a seperate purchase. Or at least bundled with a few other Targetmaster gun guys even if just redecos and give them to other figures who need a bit more firepower. You get a Targetmaster...and you get a Targetmaster...and you get a Targetmaster...
So then everyone can complain that there's guys that are Targetmasters now that weren't Targetmasters in G1?
Posted by Kurona on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:18am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kurona wrote:Yeah, it's pretty frustrating. I'm just glad Haywire's being released at all.
If only we could get Haywire as a seperate purchase. Or at least bundled with a few other Targetmaster gun guys even if just redecos and give them to other figures who need a bit more firepower. You get a Targetmaster...and you get a Targetmaster...and you get a Targetmaster...
It'd be pretty cool -- I could see Hasbro eventually releasing them as exclusives or a Platinum set much like Unite Warriors Groove or Adventure Battle Grimlock.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:19am CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Kurona wrote:Yeah, it's pretty frustrating. I'm just glad Haywire's being released at all.
If only we could get Haywire as a seperate purchase. Or at least bundled with a few other Targetmaster gun guys even if just redecos and give them to other figures who need a bit more firepower. You get a Targetmaster...and you get a Targetmaster...and you get a Targetmaster...
So then everyone can complain that there's guys that are Targetmasters now that weren't Targetmasters in G1?
Ah but unlike Titan/Headmasters, the Targetmasters don't form any integral part of the main robot. But yeah there's always someone who wants to complain.
Posted by william-james88 on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:24am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Reread the news story again and take note of the orange silhouette in the background of Blurr's picture.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Wait, what? So is this reissued Legends Blurr a targetmaster now to match their Hot Rod and Kup? Which is what I would have liked even before they reintroduced Targetmasters to these Titans figures who had been Targetmasters in G1 rather than Headmasters?
Um yeah i did but i don't get it. So... you have to buy Legends Doublecross to get Blurr's Targetmaster?
Yup so as you see, Takara is not immune to dick moves. They could have included this targetmaster with the upcoming Blurr rerelease but NOPE!
I would put an Angry Joe meme but I dont want Burn to yell at me.
Posted by Cyberpath on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:26am CDT
Other than the Targetmasters and their appropriate masters, the two pair-ups that make "sense" are Bumblebee & Spike, and Octane & Ghost Starscream.
Bring on, Snap & Ape!
Posted by william-james88 on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:38am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Yeah, Takara has been sneaky sticking unrelated smaller toys to their figures in the Legends line, so fans would "have" to buy everything.
Other than the Targetmasters and their appropriate masters, the two pair-ups that make "sense" are Bumblebee & Spike, and Octane & Ghost Starscream.
I will say that I found the Sweep head with Shakticon to be a very smart combo since both are army builders.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:38am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:39am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Reread the news story again and take note of the orange silhouette in the background of Blurr's picture.Carnivius_Prime wrote:Wait, what? So is this reissued Legends Blurr a targetmaster now to match their Hot Rod and Kup? Which is what I would have liked even before they reintroduced Targetmasters to these Titans figures who had been Targetmasters in G1 rather than Headmasters?
Um yeah i did but i don't get it. So... you have to buy Legends Doublecross to get Blurr's Targetmaster?
Yup so as you see, Takara is not immune to dick moves. They could have included this targetmaster with the upcoming Blurr rerelease but NOPE!
Again, Blurr being chosen by the Japanese fans to be reissued is a happy accident. Still, no matter what TakaraTomy would have done, there will always be complaints, from Haywire being included with the wrong figure, to people already having Legends Blurr feeling forced to buy a Blurr re-release, redecoed or not, just for a newly included Haywire.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:39am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Yeah, Takara has been sneaky sticking unrelated smaller toys to their figures in the Legends line, so fans would "have" to buy everything.
Other than the Targetmasters and their appropriate masters, the two pair-ups that make "sense" are Bumblebee & Spike, and Octane & Ghost Starscream.
I will say that I found the Sweep head with Shakticon to be a very smart combo since both are army builders.
Yeah that I can understand. Haywire with Doublecross makes no sense at all. In fact why was Doublecross even brought back in this age as a Titans figure. I barely even remember him from G1 at all.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:41am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:already having Legends Blurr feeling forced to buy a Blurr re-release, redecoed or not, just for a newly included Haywire.
At least that would have been G1 accurate at least in the west where in the 80s we got regular versions of Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, Cyclonus and Scourge and THEN they were all re-released as Targetmasters not long after.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:42am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Yeah that I can understand. Haywire with Doublecross makes no sense at all. In fact why was Doublecross even brought back in this age as a Titans figure. I barely even remember him from G1 at all.
Because he is awesome. That is why. I love my Doublecross(Twinferno) figure.
Posted by triKlops on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:48am CDT
The 3 Sweep heads are a bonus for my 3 TR Scourge Sweeps.
Also looking forward to getting in on the the Blurr rerelease.
Posted by Kurona on July 18th, 2017 @ 9:57am CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 18th, 2017 @ 11:34am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Every time I see that goofy-looking mustache, pointed chin, and squared head combination, I can't help but be instantly reminded of...
That's not a pointed chin, it's a little goatee. The chin itself is more square.
But yes, that is such a stereotypical RAF mustache. Though I can also see the Wario and Waluigi resemblance.
Carnivius_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Yeah, Takara has been sneaky sticking unrelated smaller toys to their figures in the Legends line, so fans would "have" to buy everything.
Other than the Targetmasters and their appropriate masters, the two pair-ups that make "sense" are Bumblebee & Spike, and Octane & Ghost Starscream.
I will say that I found the Sweep head with Shakticon to be a very smart combo since both are army builders.
Yeah that I can understand. Haywire with Doublecross makes no sense at all. In fact why was Doublecross even brought back in this age as a Titans figure. I barely even remember him from G1 at all.
Doublecross was a notable character in The Headmasters, showing up in a few episodes (one of which is the inspiration for his headmaster fig being based on White Leo). So he fits right in with the rest of the updates to the 1987 cast and would be desirable to Japanese G1 fans anyway - coming with an accessory for Blurr is a bonus. And as has been pointed out, Blurr's reissue was not a guarantee, just a happy coincidence.
Getting off of Doublecross.. I did a search of this thread for pics of Legends-series Scourge, I was amused to discover that Takara has continued a grand tradition with him. This instance of it is particularly amusing to me given another character named Scourge.
Amusing canon-fanmode aside, I think it's also notable that LG-26 Scourge doesn't have too much more paint than the Hasbro version - a decent chunk of the difference is just in where it's applied (abs and kneecaps instead of the leg and chest greebling stickers from the original toy, more of the top of the altmode instead of the side intakes and also no greenish-blue paint, the inside of the wings instead of the 5mm ports on the sides - though that is still an area of extra paint..). There's no paint on the shoulder detail, only paint on the upper detail of his forearms, no red paint on the fingertips.. Kind of a shame. But painting the abs and kneecaps instead of duplicating the stickers from the original toy is a definite improvement. And the extra paint it does have is well-used too (painting the mustache, painting the center of the "Disintegrator ray"/"Rocket booster", etc.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 18th, 2017 @ 11:51am CDT
I also ordered three of the rereleases of Scourge. Not surprisingly, I plan to use the extra Sweeps heads from the three Takara Legends Sharkticons I preordered to create my Sweeps army. I was content at first just to use a trio of Hasbro Scourges as my Sweeps, letting the Takara version be Scourge proper. I was even content to give them the exclusive Sweeps heads once getting my order of Sharkticons. But, since the opportunity has now presented itself, I might as well get some extra Takara Scourges so that the colors match much better between the bodies and the heads of the Sweeps. I usually like my Sweeps army to look different from my main Scourge figure in my displays, and different paint jobs used to suffice for that, but now, I'll let just different face sculpts serve that function. It makes better sense to for a G1 display too, as the Sweeps looked basically identical to Scourge in the original cartoon and animated movie. A small change to their facial hair is a more subtle nod to their underling status than a completely different paint job.
Posted by Poyguimogul on July 18th, 2017 @ 5:36pm CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on July 19th, 2017 @ 4:48am CDT
Kurona wrote:Given the RiD Warrior, I think the reason can fairly be assumed to be "Someone in Hasbro really really likes Doublecross".
It certainly would appear so. I kinda wish we'd get a Deluxe TR Repugnus and Grotusque though. Particularly Repugnus, he was always my favourite (though in terms of figure representation, Grotusque probably deserves it more).
The Monsterbots were always so cool. When the awesome two-headed dragon is the least imaginative monster in the lineup you're doing something right, even if Repugnus' beast mode is kinda cuddly.
Posted by Kurona on July 19th, 2017 @ 4:54am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on July 19th, 2017 @ 5:03am CDT
THAT SAID, if the rumours of CW compatible beast combiners in POTP are true, I wouldn't mind one of the two remaining Monsterbots getting whatever the POTP gimmick will be and one getting a retool from one of the Terrorcons.That way we could have all three of the gimmicks of CW, TR and POTP in one team.
Posted by Hero Alpha on July 19th, 2017 @ 11:57am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 19th, 2017 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 19th, 2017 @ 12:53pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Yeah, also looking forward to Doublecross, he looks weird in a good way. It's generally the Decepticons that change into beasts so this is interesting, especially with two dragon heads. Plus, it's fun to pick up a character that's not from the original series once in a while.
Doublecross was in the original series. Unless you mean he wasn't in the cartoon. He had a G1 figure and was in Headmasters and the comics.
Posted by Cyberpath on July 19th, 2017 @ 1:48pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Cyberpath wrote:Yeah, also looking forward to Doublecross, he looks weird in a good way. It's generally the Decepticons that change into beasts so this is interesting, especially with two dragon heads. Plus, it's fun to pick up a character that's not from the original series once in a while.
Doublecross was in the original series. Unless you mean he wasn't in the cartoon. He had a G1 figure and was in Headmasters and the comics.
The Sunbow cartoon. (S1-4.)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on July 21st, 2017 @ 3:01pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 21st, 2017 @ 3:07pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:For all of you saying that Ghost Starscream is Chasm, you're wrong. Turns out it's Nightbeat.
Yeah, we found that out once the pictures dropped.
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on July 21st, 2017 @ 5:46pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Decepticon Stryker wrote:For all of you saying that Ghost Starscream is Chasm, you're wrong. Turns out it's Nightbeat.
Yeah, we found that out once the pictures dropped.
I thought someone might have mentioned it before, but I was too lazy. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a 1000 page essay due.... Ill just do it tomorrow.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 22nd, 2017 @ 4:04pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Kurona wrote:Decepticon Stryker wrote:For all of you saying that Ghost Starscream is Chasm, you're wrong. Turns out it's Nightbeat.
Yeah, we found that out once the pictures dropped.
I thought someone might have mentioned it before, but I was too lazy. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a 1000 page essay due.... Ill just do it tomorrow.
That would be me, once I recognized the chest design in the original photos. They did miss a deco opportunity with him, the mouth plate and the crown-like design:
Transformers Machine Wars Starscream Gallery
That said, I'm still awaiting the future uses, if any, for the pretool heads, especially the creativity from eHobby. Using the Getaway head for Bludgeon is a stroke of genius (even if we see the Stylor body design yet again!).
Posted by Mindmaster on July 23rd, 2017 @ 11:59am CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 24th, 2017 @ 9:20pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on July 24th, 2017 @ 9:51pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Would anyone be willing to provide a closeup of Godbomber hitched to Ginrai? Specifically, of where the hitch connects?
God Bomber's red hitch connects between Ginrai's folded up feet. There's a small slot there.
Mine are combined at the moment but here's a pic showing the connection slot:
Ignore the red circles, the slot is between the red circles. Where his shins/feet come together in truck mode they make a slot for the hitch.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 24th, 2017 @ 10:11pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on July 24th, 2017 @ 10:48pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I know it connects there. But what I was asking for was a pic of that spot, with the two connected.
O.K. Here you go:
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 24th, 2017 @ 11:01pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 29th, 2017 @ 11:48pm CDT
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Since his reformatting into a heroic Autobot in a small protoform body, Black Convoy has been put in charge of a Dimensional Patrol protoform squadron charged with capturing the remaining Combatrons, who have fled to the Legends Universe. His soldiers locate the fugitives and forcibly reformat Greejeeber into one of them, and when his comrades reach out to help, protoform-Greejeeber turns on them and reformats them as well. Only Dolrailer gets away and urges Dark Ai to save herself, believing her to be their last hope. The arrival of a black tanker truck briefly makes him think Black Convoy has returned to normal, but the vehicle reveals itself to be a mass-produced Dimensional Patrol drone based on Convoy's old body and reformats him.
Refusing to leave the Legends world with Dark Ai still on the loose, Black Convoy and Skids announce that during their indefinite stay, the world's transtectors will be sealed off for the security's sake. As Autobot Axalon and Decepticon Tera-Kura alike grumble about this, Dark Ai appears at Axalon and reveals that she's carrying backup data of Black Convoy and the Combatrons' evil personalities. Rattrap and the Autobots agree to help her install the data into Black Convoy and make him turn on the Dimensional Patrol, just as the Patrol learns of Dark Ai's location and have their drones carpet bomb Axalon. The Autobot Headmasters fight back by incapacitating the drones with Skids's keep-out tape, modifying them into transtectors, and taking control of them. Black Convoy responds by scanning Hardhead and adopting a Headmaster form himself, but this is just what the Autobots had been hoping for: as soon as Black Convoy combines with one of the drones, Dark Ai enters its cockpit and installs the backup data, restoring Black Convoy to his "normal" self. Turning against the Dimensional Patrol, he helps the Autobots drive Skids and the protoform soldiers out of the Legends Universe.
In the aftermath, Black Convoy restores the other Combatrons and prepares to return home, now in command of new drone soldiers captured from the Patrol. He considers conquering the Legends Universe first, but writes it off as a joke when the Autobots train their guns at him. Dark Ai punishes him for the jest with an electrical whip while teaching him that the enemy of your enemy is your friend, surprising Rattrap with the fact that she's the domineering one of the two.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 30th, 2017 @ 12:47am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 31st, 2017 @ 10:14am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:At last, full high quality scans and an English summary of the Black Convoy pack-in comic.
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Since his reformatting into a heroic Autobot in a small protoform body, Black Convoy has been put in charge of a Dimensional Patrol protoform squadron charged with capturing the remaining Combatrons, who have fled to the Legends Universe. His soldiers locate the fugitives and forcibly reformat Greejeeber into one of them, and when his comrades reach out to help, protoform-Greejeeber turns on them and reformats them as well. Only Dolrailer gets away and urges Dark Ai to save herself, believing her to be their last hope. The arrival of a black tanker truck briefly makes him think Black Convoy has returned to normal, but the vehicle reveals itself to be a mass-produced Dimensional Patrol drone based on Convoy's old body and reformats him.
Refusing to leave the Legends world with Dark Ai still on the loose, Black Convoy and Skids announce that during their indefinite stay, the world's transtectors will be sealed off for the security's sake. As Autobot Axalon and Decepticon Tera-Kura alike grumble about this, Dark Ai appears at Axalon and reveals that she's carrying backup data of Black Convoy and the Combatrons' evil personalities. Rattrap and the Autobots agree to help her install the data into Black Convoy and make him turn on the Dimensional Patrol, just as the Patrol learns of Dark Ai's location and have their drones carpet bomb Axalon. The Autobot Headmasters fight back by incapacitating the drones with Skids's keep-out tape, modifying them into transtectors, and taking control of them. Black Convoy responds by scanning Hardhead and adopting a Headmaster form himself, but this is just what the Autobots had been hoping for: as soon as Black Convoy combines with one of the drones, Dark Ai enters its cockpit and installs the backup data, restoring Black Convoy to his "normal" self. Turning against the Dimensional Patrol, he helps the Autobots drive Skids and the protoform soldiers out of the Legends Universe.
In the aftermath, Black Convoy restores the other Combatrons and prepares to return home, now in command of new drone soldiers captured from the Patrol. He considers conquering the Legends Universe first, but writes it off as a joke when the Autobots train their guns at him. Dark Ai punishes him for the jest with an electrical whip while teaching him that the enemy of your enemy is your friend, surprising Rattrap with the fact that she's the domineering one of the two.
Posted by Kurona on July 31st, 2017 @ 7:56pm CDT
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:02pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm finding myself continually frustrated with how Takara's Triggerhappy looks. It's very minor, but the white guns seem to be tinted blue and what they've gone for with the face just doesn't look as good as Hasbro's. But I really want that Targetmaster...
I have the Hasbro version, and...to be honest, while the Targetmaster is neat, I just don't care. Hell, I don't even use his actual guns on mine, I just have him use the arm-mounted ones. And to me, the Hasbro face paint is better, and the peg hole on the Takara chest looks weird.
Not sure if that'll actually help your decision, I just wanted to throw that out there.
Posted by Emerje on July 31st, 2017 @ 8:38pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm finding myself continually frustrated with how Takara's Triggerhappy looks. It's very minor, but the white guns seem to be tinted blue and what they've gone for with the face just doesn't look as good as Hasbro's. But I really want that Targetmaster...
I feel like a lot of the colors in these photos come down to bad photography. The guns and other color-matched parts are different colors between the photos. But wouldn't it make more sense for those parts to be the same color as the pure white on the head?
I'm a little more concerned about the head being a lighter shade of blue from the rest of the body, that's consistent in all of the photos.
Emerje
Posted by primalxconvoy on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:28pm CDT
The heck?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 31st, 2017 @ 11:37pm CDT
Even as a good guy, Black Convoy maintains a Lawfully Evil brand of order that's just too rigid for the other good guys to tolerate.primalxconvoy wrote:What? Scourge gets turned into an Autobot, and turns the other Cobatrons into Autobots, only to be fought by OTHER Autobots who want to turn him and his comrades BACK into Decepticons?
The heck?