Super7 Transformers Ultimates Bludgeon, Grimlock, Megatron, and Tracks revealed and preorders open

Gotta say... That Bludgeon will be MINE!

Definitely getting Bludgeon and Grimlock. Grimlock will be going with post-movie figures (SS86 Grimlock is pre-movie for me) since he's pretty big at 9" tall. Bludgeon's 8.5" is about as tall as MP Starscream to the top of his head so I might stick him (and Banzaitron) with MPs. Megatron and Tracks I have no use for, though I might get Megatron if he's on sale.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Definitely getting Bludgeon and Grimlock. Grimlock will be going with post-movie figures (SS86 Grimlock is pre-movie for me) since he's pretty big at 9" tall. Bludgeon's 8.5" is about as tall as MP Starscream to the top of his head so I might stick him (and Banzaitron) with MPs. Megatron and Tracks I have no use for, though I might get Megatron if he's on sale.

Emerje

If some 3P smart-ass make a mini-tank Bludgeon compatible with that turret accessory, we will basically have a MP Bludgeon! One more reason to get him.

That Bludgeon's gonna be great to own, even if he's not quite easy to put in a CHUG display.

Quantum Surge wrote:That Bludgeon's gonna be great to own, even if he's not quite easy to put in a CHUG display.

That figure is 9" tall. So unless Bludgeon was a freaking GIANT, he'll be right at home in the current Masterpiece display. So in a CHUG display, he may be way too big.

That's to the tip of his helmet. He'll be very tall, but depending on how he's posed and positioned, he'll be okay. My plans for him are alongside Marvel comics Decepticon leaders, and he'll be imposing, but that's the right aesthetic for him.

I also don't care about scale too much, so YMMV.

Yes, as a Marvel leader, hell b perfect in that CHUG display. Especially because you have all the parts included to make Marvel Bludgeon.

It's hard to pre-order these without having in-hand reports of the first wave.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:It's hard to pre-order these without having in-hand reports of the first wave.

You mean about overall quality and feels?
Completely understandable. Especially because these figures are the price of a Leader.

If there was a way for Bludgeon to work as an actual Pretender Shell (with a hollow space inside him), then this would be even better. I'm sure that someone would then make a figure go for inside him.

Anyway, he's the only one I would want, on account of him not transforming.

Also, how would this look, standing amongst existing "classics" MOTU figures by Super 7? They should do so of the Pretender Shells like that AND give them how compartments too.

I know most of you guys seem to be excited by that Bludgeon, but that Megatron looks like it's been made to recreate his infamous "drunk" scene - he's got a happy, smiling face with Energon drool & a hand holding a half-empty Energon cube.

BumbleDouche wrote:I know most of you guys seem to be excited by that Bludgeon, but that Megatron looks like it's been made to recreate his infamous "drunk" scene - he's got a happy, smiling face with Energon drool & a hand holding a half-empty Energon cube.

It's mostly because there was never such a big and detailed OFFICIAL Bludgeon figure before, while there's Megs aplenty. Still, if one want to have fun recreating scenes without having to pay 300$ for MP-36, this Megs is a no-brainer.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

BumbleDouche wrote:I know most of you guys seem to be excited by that Bludgeon, but that Megatron looks like it's been made to recreate his infamous "drunk" scene - he's got a happy, smiling face with Energon drool & a hand holding a half-empty Energon cube.

It's mostly because there was never such a big and detailed OFFICIAL Bludgeon figure before, while there's Megs aplenty. Still, if one want to have fun recreating scenes without having to pay 300$ for MP-36, this Megs is a no-brainer.

Yeah, I get that. I just found at amusing to consider that an official Megatron could be interpreted as slyly advocating drunkenness to children - or us poor impressionable collectors!

BumbleDouche wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

BumbleDouche wrote:I know most of you guys seem to be excited by that Bludgeon, but that Megatron looks like it's been made to recreate his infamous "drunk" scene - he's got a happy, smiling face with Energon drool & a hand holding a half-empty Energon cube.

It's mostly because there was never such a big and detailed OFFICIAL Bludgeon figure before, while there's Megs aplenty. Still, if one want to have fun recreating scenes without having to pay 300$ for MP-36, this Megs is a no-brainer.

Yeah, I get that. I just found at amusing to consider that an official Megatron could be interpreted as slyly advocating drunkenness to children - or us poor impressionable collectors!

Well, that scene in that episode was indeed doing that. I think that's why IDW referenced a similar scene with (Kup?) getting drunk on Kreemzeek's special brew cans?

Regardless, some of the G1 Autobots advertised or alluded to advertisements of alcohol (Jazz's "Martini"), tobacco (Mirage's "Gittannes") , etc.

Beside, these Super 7 figures are not aimed at children.
So they have a few more liberties.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Beside, these Super 7 figures are not aimed at children.
So they have a few more liberties.

"Aimed" is subjective. What's the actual information in the box/accompanying papers?

primalxconvoy wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Beside, these Super 7 figures are not aimed at children.
So they have a few more liberties.

"Aimed" is subjective. What's the actual information in the box/accompanying papers?

Not that subjective when the figures are expensive, comes with a ton of little parts, and sold online only by specialised geek stores.

primalxconvoy wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Beside, these Super 7 figures are not aimed at children.
So they have a few more liberties.

"Aimed" is subjective. What's the actual information in the box/accompanying papers?

Well, even ignoring the fact they're $55 made-to-order figures only available at sites that sell pretty much exclusively to adult collectors...

if we look at the outer box for one of their TMNT Ultimates figures:

Anything sold online exclusively or at conventions is considered adult collectibles.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Anything sold online exclusively or at conventions is considered adult collectibles.

Yup. Even if those would be a BOTCON set made exclusively out of Rescue Bots molds, ironically.

I like the look of Grimlock quite a bit... Imo overall that sculpt does a really good job of capturing a toon-ish look, specifically with the proportions.
The problem for me, is I don't care about any of those accessories... Not a single one.
Even the extra dino hands are unnecessary.
I know those aren't images of the real products, but that little Wheelie almost looks like he is one molded piece of plastic, and another one that's stuck in a sitting pose... Maybe the knees bend? But it sure doesn't look like the hip joints are articulated... It looks like the shoulders swivel, but I wouldn't doubt if the head doesn't.

Similar to R.E.D. Megatron, I'd have to find this on a really big sale to buy it.
Hell, even at $30 I'm not sure this would be worth it.

I like the overall look of Megatron, but his head is a bit large, and I wish there was black outline all the way around the eyes.
I don't like either of the alternate heads, but what's maybe more bothersome is there looks to be very limited articulation at the hips; the second image shows a render that very looks cheated-- his left leg is somehow outside of the black pelvis piece, which isn't even possible.
Then look at his right shoulder... That also doesn't look possible. How is the very top of the shoulder gone? It's somehow disappeared into the upper torso??

I get these are 7.5"+ in height, but for non-converting figures, these look to have really limited articulation.
And these are $55 each?
For someone who doesn't mind non-transforming figures, these are way overpriced for what they are and what they lack.

Sowndwave76 wrote:And these are $55 each?
For someone who doesn't mind non-transforming figures, these are way overpriced for what they are and what they lack.

Are you new to this hobby?
Lemme point you out toward FIGMA...

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Are you new to this hobby?
Lemme point you out toward FIGMA...

If by "new to this hobby" you mean "don't collect anime figures", then yes.
A major difference is that these Super 7 figures seem to have substantially less detail and articulation.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Are you new to this hobby?
Lemme point you out toward FIGMA...

If by "new to this hobby" you mean "don't collect anime figures", then yes.
A major difference is that these Super 7 figures seem to have substantially less detail and articulation.

It's a style. And they are WAY bigger and massive, plus the number of accessories is pretty big. So the price is right.

But whatever, there's a golden rule that we ALL abide by: the things we don't like or that don't interest us will ALWAYS be "too expensive" no matter the price. ¯\_( ͡°ヮ ͡°)_/¯

Another factor to consider regarding the price:

Super7's figures are made in really low quantities compared to retail lines, or even some other more limited collector lines. Probably less than 10,000 pieces of each figure, if they're in the same range as Mezco stuff. When you're doing stuff at that low of quantity, you don't get the savings that come from economies of scale, so even if it's something that could be priced at like $30-35 and still be profitable if it were being made in the high 10s of thousands, at this small of a production run the materials etc. costs them more per figure to make it, so they have to price it substantially higher to actually make a profit.

-Kanrabat- wrote:
It's a style. And they are WAY bigger and massive, plus the number of accessories is pretty big. So the price is right.

But whatever, there's a golden rule that we ALL abide by: the things we don't like or that don't interest us will ALWAYS be "too expensive" no matter the price. ¯\_( ͡°ヮ ͡°)_/¯

Anytime profit is involved, there's too much gray area to say "the price is right".
And the exact opposite can be said; if you like and have interest in something, "it's worth it" no matter the price.
At any rate, it can also be stated with as much validity that all of this stuff is overpriced.

I'd also say there are plenty of times where someone may not be interested in a figure (even to the point of "not liking it"), and that doesn't automatically then mean they think it's overpriced.

All right everyone, pack it in, show's over. Franchise has officially jumped the shark, or in this case, an alligator made out of Optimus Prime.

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New wave is looking really good. G2 megs with plenty of heads, tarn, Croc with building with arm and wreckgar/junkion being nice as well.

You're forgetting the #1 offering, Nickel!

This new wave is really quite fantastic, I love it! I had cancelled my Banzaitron preorder and was content to let these pass, but i just preordered Tarn and re-preordered Banzaitron, I'll give them a shot.

I think Tarn will eventually go to the Cyberverse shelf, he scales better with them it seems than the MMC one, and I want Nickel for the Scavengers, so at this point, we only need a Fulcrum to complete that set!

Once again official third parties do what Hasbro refuses to, just not transformable. At this point Hasbro will probably never give us a proper transforming Tarn figure despite his popular IDW stories and his visage now being all over the Cyberverse animated series, but at least we can get the next best official thing from Super7. The new Ultimate Tarn stands at a 7" scale (roughly the size of a Voyager) meaning he should work well with the modern Transformers scale. He includes an alternate unmasked head, a spare mask "prop", double canon, a bunch of hands and, most importantly, Nickle with her backpack. Could this open the door to more DJD members? Probably not, but it's still a good looking figure.

Meanwhile we never got that easy Titans Return Skullsmasher repaint into Alligaticon, the misassembled monsters made from Optimus Prime's parts from the G1 cartoon episode "City of Steel". This will be our first official Alligaticon figure, but he'll also include Prime's severed head, the tower Prime's arm was mounted to, and a Decepticon battle taxi, bet you thought we'd never get a figure of that!

The wave wraps up with less obscure G2 Megatron featuring both his G1 and G2 canons, extra hands, swappable blue and gray faces, a bunch of hands and many weapons straight out of the G2 comic. Then there's Wreck-Gar who comes with his cartoon and toy heads, cartoon and toy axes, Energon treats, a mini TV for Earth broadcasts, wax and cloth for detailing Ultra Magnus, gun wheel shields.

Ultimates wave 3 is expected to be out third quarter of 2022 and cost around $55 each. You can pick these up and just about any of our site sponsors. Big thanks to Seibertronians D-Maximal_Primal via email and AcademyofDrX on the Energon Pub Forums for letting us know.

And here I just recently tracked down a Junkion Blacksmith Optimus Prime headmaster to fully turn my Poison Dragon Skullcruncher KO into a "What if the Autobots had just decided to roll with Alligatormus Prime?" custom. Of course the colors don't quite match, and he's not complete until I find that Matrix sticker and put it under his tech-spec cover.

I was hoping one of G2 Megs' accessories would be the protoplasm stripper with an in scale Dr. Biggles Jones. Still might get him though.

While it is disappointing that Tarn gets yet another non-transforming figure, I am looking forward to that set. For one thing, I finally get Nickel, meaning my Scavengers literally will only need a Fulcrum. And for another, a non-transforming Tarn will go good on the Cyberverse shelf.

The other 3 are also pretty cool. This is a nice assortment

NICKEL

I'm also excited for Nickel

AcademyofDrX wrote:NICKEL

I'm also excited for Nickel

She truly makes me wonder if we will finally see a Fulcrum in some capacity somewhere, maybe like this

While I'm glad for a (relatively) more accessible Tarn - with Nickel as a bonus! -, I can't help but be amused that the character portrayed as so addicted to transformation he keeps burning through T-Cogs...has so far only non-transformable figures.

True, that character trait didn't play that big a part after his introduction, but still.

MaximalNui wrote:While I'm glad for a (relatively) more accessible Tarn - with Nickel as a bonus! -, I can't help but be amused that the character portrayed as so addicted to transformation he keeps burning through T-Cogs...has so far only non-transformable figures.

True, that character trait didn't play that big a part after his introduction, but still.

It's torturous. I keep hoping Cyberverse will give us a transforming toy of him. The iron is so strong!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

MaximalNui wrote:While I'm glad for a (relatively) more accessible Tarn - with Nickel as a bonus! -, I can't help but be amused that the character portrayed as so addicted to transformation he keeps burning through T-Cogs...has so far only non-transformable figures.

True, that character trait didn't play that big a part after his introduction, but still.

It's torturous. I keep hoping Cyberverse will give us a transforming toy of him. The iron is so strong!

It's over my friend, Cyberverse is over.

Super7 definitely got the attention of Transformers fans when they announced Transformers Action Masters as part of their Ultimates assortment. While pricey, they made more sense as an update than any other non transforming action figure of Transformers characters. Well, we now have in had images and assessments of all these figures. We have reviews from Toy Bro as well as in hand images from Weibo and a TF fan called analogue. Analogue's pictures of Action Master Bombshell are especially fun since we see a comparison to the G1 Action Master Bombshell which shows us how faithful this updated version is.

This first wave has Action Master Bombshell and Banzaitron as well as Optimus and Starscream.

Those are basically MP Action Masters.
But the line works very well for pretenders too.

I pre-ordered Bludgeon and I hope a Thunderwing is in the works.

As I half expected after handling their Voltron figure, these look great and that's about it. Optimus Prime has ZERO playability and can barely move, the RED figure looks better. I just canceled my order at BBTS. I think it's safe to say that Super7 will not be making figures that appeal to Transformer fans on a whole.

Hell yeah, I want these. I doubt they will, but I would love to see a Treadshot one and put it next to my G1 one!

-Kanrabat- wrote:Those are basically MP Action Masters.
But the line works very well for pretenders too.

I pre-ordered Bludgeon and I hope a Thunderwing is in the works.

I wouldn't call them MP with their limited articulation.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Those are basically MP Action Masters.
But the line works very well for pretenders too.

I pre-ordered Bludgeon and I hope a Thunderwing is in the works.

I wouldn't call them MP with their limited articulation.

MP-ish?

Eh, a bit disappointed the Action Master Partners don't work as well as the originals (except Needler, but even he needs partforming), but then again I should've expected it. Hasbro tends to be protective of the whole transformation conversion when it regards to third-party licenses.

Guess I'll save it for Alligaticon and Tarn, then.

Hmm, unsure on these in hand shots. They look pretty good, but I was hoping for a bit more shoulder movement, and it looks a little weird in person? Starscream in particular came out looking odd.

I plan to get Tarn. I'm still thinking on Banzaitron and Bludgeon, but not sure with the price tag on those ones yet

I just want them to look good on a shelf next to other Transformers and I think these will do the part. I pre-ordered ones that I thought would work well at the 7" Voyager height and likely wont get a good figure from Hasbro so Banzaitron, Bludgeon, Tarn, Alligaticon, and Grimlock (who's 9").

Emerje

For me, this line and RED just miss the mark for the most part. Making better Action Masters is a nice idea, but any TF really has to transform.

The Aligaticon is the only one of these kind of figures that's tempting. I have a 3rd party one, though, and I'm happy with that for this kind of character. They'd have to get that level of niche. Maybe I'd get more Quintessons.

Loved Banzai-Tron back in the day, but this update screwed up his mouthplate: it's supposed to look like it was carved into a mouth with fangs, emulating some actual samurai armor face guards. This slight inversion would look OK, if someone hadn't missed the point. I was going to get some of these, but now I'll pass unless there's an affordable 3P replacement head for my favorite Action Master.

I LOVE what Super 7 is doing for Thundercats, and the whole ReAction line, but these TFs aren't quite living up to the "Ultimate" moniker.

I opened up my Banzai-tron, and he's basically exactly what I was looking for, a scaled-up Action Master. The articulation is more limited than I was expecting, but I think that's mostly due to the priority on the sculpt, which I can't find fault with. It still has the basics down, and I'm not planning to do anything too wild with him. I'm only getting one figure per wave, and due to the cost and the figure style, I think that's a good fit for my collection.

For those curious about scale, he's almost exactly the same height as Siege Megatron, just a smidge taller. His humanoid proportions are a little oversized--he has a bigger head, and some of his body segments are larger--so he feels scaled a little bigger even when he's not taller. He'll stand out in a Generations collection for his design much more than for his size.