Studio Series 86 Sweep Found Discounted at US Retail + Colour Comparison with Scourge

I think I might actually use Sweep as Scourge. I like the brighter toy blue. The paler blue kind of makes it look like a copy or a clone of the original (which is what Sweeps are).

They've made FINDING either of these figures more trouble than it's worth in many ways...

DeathReviews wrote:They've made FINDING either of these figures more trouble than it's worth in many ways...

That's why Hasbro has made it extra easy to preorder the Sweep. That's all that they can control on their end.

I wasn't gonna get the Sweep unless I saw it in stores, because I figured it was the exact same as Scourge just with the hand switched, but now I might have to order it online. And I also like the brighter blue better.

It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

o.supreme wrote:It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

Voyagers are going to be a problem for a while since Hasbro is making them 3 to a case meaning someone is always shortpacked. The problem with Scourge is that he was shortpacked 1 for every 2 Hot Rods. Then Hot Rod was shortpacked with Bee movie Screamer in the next wave. That's why you saw him around for a while.

The Sweeps?

Pah!

Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.

I knew about the 2:1 ratio, but I think it's the slowness of the product coming to stores which is the bigger issue, I guess that's why ordering from Pulse is at least a guarantee.

So, who does The Sweep come packed with? I think the last new SS Voyager I saw in store was Starscream (and only once). Haven't seen BB "Thrust" or Wreck-Gar yet.

o.supreme wrote:It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

Is Blurr still sticking around or has he sold out as well?

-Kanrabat- wrote:The Sweeps?

Pah!

Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.

Yeah and there isn't even a chimney transformer for them to team up with smh

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

Voyagers are going to be a problem for a while since Hasbro is making them 3 to a case meaning someone is always shortpacked. The problem with Scourge is that he was shortpacked 1 for every 2 Hot Rods. Then Hot Rod was shortpacked with Bee movie Screamer in the next wave. That's why you saw him around for a while.

And also people were buying duplicate Scourges to use as Sweeps, since we didn't know about this release yet.

o.supreme wrote:So, who does The Sweep come packed with? I think the last new SS Voyager I saw in store was Starscream (and only once). Haven't seen BB "Thrust" or Wreck-Gar yet.

This case is supposed to be 2 Sweeps, 1 Wreck-Gar.

william-james88 wrote:Is Blurr still sticking around or has he sold out as well?

I haven't seen any SS86 deluxe in my area since early summer. The last of the Kup/Blurr/Jazz wave are gone, though they did hang around for a while

Nemesis Primal wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

Voyagers are going to be a problem for a while since Hasbro is making them 3 to a case meaning someone is always shortpacked. The problem with Scourge is that he was shortpacked 1 for every 2 Hot Rods. Then Hot Rod was shortpacked with Bee movie Screamer in the next wave. That's why you saw him around for a while.

And also people were buying duplicate Scourges to use as Sweeps, since we didn't know about this release yet.

o.supreme wrote:So, who does The Sweep come packed with? I think the last new SS Voyager I saw in store was Starscream (and only once). Haven't seen BB "Thrust" or Wreck-Gar yet.

This case is supposed to be 2 Sweeps, 1 Wreck-Gar.

Yeah, they kind of mitigated things by making Wreck-Gar shortpacked, but in back to back waves, so you essentially get even distribution of BB Thrust, Wreck Gar and Sweep over 2 waves.

Makes sense, that's what they did in Kingdom, bringing back Cyclonus who was initially sort packed in wave 1, into wave 3 with Rhinox. I'm hoping Inferno will be offered again when Tigatron eventually comes out.

Kinda hoping SS gets a gaming greats line similar to star wars figures, it would be a nice way of getting some newer versions of the baynus game only figures, cell shaded Devy which would probably fit with ss86 stuff, FOC stuff (eeeww) and a 8bit style Ultra Magnus & Rodimus colored Magnus from mystery of Convoy

-Kanrabat- wrote:Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.

If it did we would have to pay leader class price. Like Siege Astrotrain.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.

If it did we would have to pay leader class price. Like Siege Astrotrain.

Lol, true that!

I got Slag today, he looks good in both modes, but I'd say the dinosaur mode is my favourite of the two. The transformation is a lot more complicated than Grimlock's, to the point where I was caught off guard a few times, but he's a chonky lil boi with a good amount of weight to him, he doesn't feel brittle or flimsy at all, and looks good next to Grimlock. The less said about Daniel the better.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:The Sweeps?

Pah!

Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.

Yeah and there isn't even a chimney transformer for them to team up with smh

In the UK, some people might imagine this when they hear of "the Sweeps":

- https://youtu.be/0zThQ4jDNEc

Every time Unicron says "And these shall be your minions, the Sweeps", I imagine them all making that annoying sound effect, and requiring Scourge to translate for them to Galvatron, just like Matthew Corbett.

Anyway, I thought this new version came with a different face? It's a bit silly not to.

Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

Sorry if this is old news by now, but I saw photos that showed Sweep being a lighter variation of blue than Scourge. I wish he wasn’t such an electric blue color… Either more desaturated, or a shade of Scourge’s blue would’ve been better imo… But I am happy they’re not exactly the same.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

Smaller than Origins Bee?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

primalxconvoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

The Titan's Return one was half the price, so it better be.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

The Titan's Return one was half the price, so it better be.

And these little beauties are even cheaper!

- https://showzstore.com/mechfanstoys-mft ... p0094.html

Just a shame they aren't selling the set with the clear purple and the other one with gold parts...

https://youtu.be/nMv6hj6y73Q

Rodimus Prime wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

Smaller than Origins Bee?

Good question, I'll have to check when I open it up. Off the cuff, I want to say no.

primalxconvoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

I want to say yes but I don't have one handy to compare.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

I want to say yes but I don't have one handy to compare.

I think comparing it to PotP Brawn or Beachcomber would be close enough. If I remember correctly they were around the same height (as were most other Legends at the time)

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

I want to say yes but I don't have one handy to compare.

I think comparing it to PotP Brawn or Beachcomber would be close enough. If I remember correctly they were around the same height (as were most other Legends at the time)

Stop being fools and just check out the damn video review.

I mean, for Shark's sake.

Good size comparison at 06:04 and 10:11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO72OMp85OY

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

I want to say yes but I don't have one handy to compare.

I think comparing it to PotP Brawn or Beachcomber would be close enough. If I remember correctly they were around the same height (as were most other Legends at the time)

Stop being fools and just check out the damn video review.

I mean, for Shark's sake.

I have already watched it and knew. My question was the move the dialogue.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

I want to say yes but I don't have one handy to compare.

I think comparing it to PotP Brawn or Beachcomber would be close enough. If I remember correctly they were around the same height (as were most other Legends at the time)

I don't keep figures on display so I don't have anything from POTP handy. I do have the Cyberverse version of Gnaw handy though. That figure is fun.

Here's another video, which compares all of the previous Sharkticons:

- https://youtu.be/jZGRzoO49Es

Saw Wreckgar instore today. The size of him has convinced me to pick him up at some point (when he's not £32) the forearms and bike mode look a bit iffy but the robot mode looks great. Also one of them on the shelve had some really bad paint on its right elbow.
I think i'd be tempted to pick up Gnaw though displaying the TR one has it came in packaging with it's legs folded to give it the appearance of being a bigger figure wont be that far off the height of ss86 Gnaw,

Got my 3x Gnaws in the mail today. They'll make a nice part of my ever growing Sharkticon army.

I like him better than the TR mold, but maybe not as much as the 3P ones I have. I never got the Cyberverse one. It just looked awful to me.

So I got super lucky and found 2 Gnaws for $5 a piece (also has the rest of the wave, but that is for another thread). Does anyone else have problems with the extra fin not staying on the back? the piece is really loose and always falls out on both. As for the rest of the figure, it is decent but I wish they hid the head better in beast mode.

I wonder if anyone's gonna bother and return a Scourge inside a Sweep's packaging.

I feel like the difference in blues between Scourge and the Sweep is like "nighttime Scourge" and "daytime Scourge".

I just got Wreck gar and he looks really impressive. His size and bulk is very much voyager. I love how the front of the motorcycle is almost completely hidden aside from some of the windshield, helping the illusion that his robot mode head morphs into the front of the bike and it's super cool that this illusion is brought to life with the robot head fitting into the alt mode front. I also really love how the wheels plug into the robot mode with those spikes peeking out.

My only issue (aside from the alt mode not being that great in the back half, but that's an issue i have with the wreck gar design in general) is that the back wheel has obstacles stopping it from spinning freely. Did I mess up, does your back wheel move freely?

william-james88 wrote:I just got Wreck gar and he looks really impressive. His size and bulk is very much voyager. I love how the front of the motorcycle is almost completely hidden aside from some of the windshield, helping the illusion that his robot mode head morphs into the front of the bike and it's super cool that this illusion is brought to life with the robot head fitting into the alt mode front. I also really love how the wheels plug into the robot mode with those spikes peeking out.

My only issue (aside from the alt mode not being that great in the back half, but that's an issue i have with the wreck gar design in general) is that the back wheel has obstacles stopping it from spinning freely. Did I mess up, does your back wheel move freely?

For the back wheel, you messed up a bit. You just need to fold that bar the right way and the rear wheel would spin freely.

BTW, I plan to get the old Generations Deluxe Junkheap so that he can ride on Wreck Garr in bike mode.

-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, I plan to get the old Generations Deluxe Junkheap so that he can ride on Wreck Garr in bike mode.

You wouldn't rather wait for the new one coming next year?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I just got Wreck gar and he looks really impressive. His size and bulk is very much voyager. I love how the front of the motorcycle is almost completely hidden aside from some of the windshield, helping the illusion that his robot mode head morphs into the front of the bike and it's super cool that this illusion is brought to life with the robot head fitting into the alt mode front. I also really love how the wheels plug into the robot mode with those spikes peeking out.

My only issue (aside from the alt mode not being that great in the back half, but that's an issue i have with the wreck gar design in general) is that the back wheel has obstacles stopping it from spinning freely. Did I mess up, does your back wheel move freely?

For the back wheel, you messed up a bit. You just need to fold that bar the right way and the rear wheel would spin freely.

BTW, I plan to get the old Generations Deluxe Junkheap so that he can ride on Wreck Garr in bike mode.

Yup, it works now

-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, I plan to get the old Generations Deluxe Junkheap so that he can ride on Wreck Garr in bike mode.

If you have SS86 Hot Rod, give him a ride on the bike, you'll be amazed. I think they specifically designed the 2 together. Hot Rod has perfect articulation to be able to sit in a riding pose and the opening hands allow you to hold the handlebars without the 5mm portion of the hands having to be lined up perfectly. Wreck Gar has just enough room for Hot Rod's feet.

Deluxe seems to be the perfect size for a rider. I suspect a voyager might be just a little too big to ride without looking like a fat guy riding a mini-bike

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, I plan to get the old Generations Deluxe Junkheap so that he can ride on Wreck Garr in bike mode.

If you have SS86 Hot Rod, give him a ride on the bike, you'll be amazed. I think they specifically designed the 2 together. Hot Rod has perfect articulation to be able to sit in a riding pose and the opening hands allow you to hold the handlebars without the 5mm portion of the hands having to be lined up perfectly. Wreck Gar has just enough room for Hot Rod's feet.

Deluxe seems to be the perfect size for a rider. I suspect a voyager might be just a little too big to ride without looking like a fat guy riding a mini-bike

That's too bad since the whole point of these guys is they can ride eachother

william-james88 wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:BTW, I plan to get the old Generations Deluxe Junkheap so that he can ride on Wreck Garr in bike mode.

If you have SS86 Hot Rod, give him a ride on the bike, you'll be amazed. I think they specifically designed the 2 together. Hot Rod has perfect articulation to be able to sit in a riding pose and the opening hands allow you to hold the handlebars without the 5mm portion of the hands having to be lined up perfectly. Wreck Gar has just enough room for Hot Rod's feet.

Deluxe seems to be the perfect size for a rider. I suspect a voyager might be just a little too big to ride without looking like a fat guy riding a mini-bike

That's too bad since the whole point of these guys is they can ride eachother

They're Junkions, I would think fat guy on a mini bike would be right up their alley?

After seeing a sumo on a cycle, animated Bulkhead wouldn't look out of place on one.

blackeyedprime wrote:After seeing a sumo on a cycle, animated Bulkhead wouldn't look out of place on one.

You're giving me the mental image of Bulkhead riding Prowl.

Well, if the newly reported store inventory listings going around for the 2022 Generations lines can be believed, we may be getting a Deluxe Class '86 Arcee next year. I wonder if this will be a retool of the Earthrise/Kingdom Arcee release, or even a brand new mold, given that I think Hasbro knows they blew it with their latest Arcee Generations figure. I hope it's not just a premium paint job for the same exact figure. You can't just put lipstick on that pig, Hasbro.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I hope it's not just a premium paint job for the same exact figure. You can't just put lipstick on that pig, Hasbro.

Leakers are saying it's exactly that.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:I hope it's not just a premium paint job for the same exact figure. You can't just put lipstick on that pig, Hasbro.

Leakers are saying it's exactly that.

I now have to believe that the pandemic and lack of product in stores took away Arcee's chance of being the top shelfwarmer of all time. She could have been the one 3 years running if there was enough product to shelfwarm.

I thought the Arcees were for the Bumblebee movie and Prime, I didn't think we were getting an SS86 or G1-style figure.