Studio Series 38 Bumblebee Movie Optimus Prime Out at Select Stores in the US + New Pics

ZeroWolf wrote:I really didn't care about dragging G1 into the bee movie...but...that Optimus looks the business. Looks like a fun toy to play with and pose.

truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.

truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Good looking truck mode. Garbage robot mode. If I get it, it won't be at full price.

Shuttershock wrote:Ironically the longest smokestacks we’ve gotten in a while.

metalogan wrote:

truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.

Agreed 1000% . Part of the stoic mystique of the character was to give him the solid " poker face" . I love the eyes.. Prime always had a concerned or compassionate look to the eyes. It was subtle but carefully and thoughtfully designed. When his eyes did emote in G1, it was for a reason.

I just wrote on another thread how everything that is animated CGI or otherwise emote too much. From Shrek, to Yoda to the new Transformers cartoon. It , to me, is cringeworthy. People don't look like that, except people that work at Applebees. Smirks, Eye rolls, or one eyebrow raised seem to be the popular and go-to expressions for animators because they underestimate the viewer's intelligence. Dumb it down and really show those emotions so people can "SEE" what they are feeling. No room for subtle nuances in this biz.

I think animation and facial expressions should be relegated to strictly outlandish humor like Ren and Stimpy which utilized the approach to parody animation as well.

Oh.. and again.. I like your thought! haha

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Is it just me or are his proportions off?

metalogan wrote:

truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.

Agreed 1000% . Part of the stoic mystique of the character was to give him the solid " poker face" . I love the eyes.. Prime always had a concerned or compassionate look to the eyes. It was subtle but carefully and thoughtfully designed. When his eyes did emote in G1, it was for a reason.

I just wrote on another thread how everything that is animated CGI or otherwise emote too much. From Shrek, to Yoda to the new Transformers cartoon. It , to me, is cringeworthy. People don't look like that, except people that work at Applebees. Smirks, Eye rolls, or one eyebrow raised seem to be the popular and go-to expressions for animators because they underestimate the viewer's intelligence. Dumb it down and really show those emotions so people can "SEE" what they are feeling. No room for subtle nuances in this biz.

I think animation and facial expressions should be relegated to strictly outlandish humor like Ren and Stimpy which utilized the approach to parody animation as well.

Oh.. and again.. I like your thought! haha

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

metalogan wrote:

truegrit wrote:Seeing this toy reminds me how there was absolutely no issue with Optimus having a faceplate in the movie, in terms of understanding what was said and being able to emote.

Agreed 1000% . Part of the stoic mystique of the character was to give him the solid " poker face" . I love the eyes.. Prime always had a concerned or compassionate look to the eyes. It was subtle but carefully and thoughtfully designed. When his eyes did emote in G1, it was for a reason.

I just wrote on another thread how everything that is animated CGI or otherwise emote too much. From Shrek, to Yoda to the new Transformers cartoon. It , to me, is cringeworthy. People don't look like that, except people that work at Applebees. Smirks, Eye rolls, or one eyebrow raised seem to be the popular and go-to expressions for animators because they underestimate the viewer's intelligence. Dumb it down and really show those emotions so people can "SEE" what they are feeling. No room for subtle nuances in this biz.

I think animation and facial expressions should be relegated to strictly outlandish humor like Ren and Stimpy which utilized the approach to parody animation as well.

Oh.. and again.. I like your thought! haha

So, basically you want everyone to look like they just had extensive Botox and can’t emote?

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Good looking truck mode. Garbage robot mode. If I get it, it won't be at full price.

What don't you like about the robot mode? It looks screen accurate, detailed, well-proportioned, and devoid of excess kibble or fake parts. That's a win to me.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Good looking truck mode. Garbage robot mode. If I get it, it won't be at full price.

What don't you like about the robot mode? It looks screen accurate, detailed, well-proportioned, and devoid of excess kibble or fake parts. That's a win to me.

It's ugly. It was ugly on screen too. Just because it's screen accurate doesn't make it a good figure. His legs (especially his feet) look mutilated, and that lower torso looks like Megatron grabbed a handful of his grille and ripped it out, along with some guts. I do like the boxy look, but his chest just looks too big for the rest of him. He's misproportioned. It looks like they used an unfinished rendering of the figure in the movie because they were running behind schedule in post-production.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:I really enjoy this new look. Maybe it's not the design we should have had first, but rather a nice change on what we're used to( I respect your opinion btw )

Ironhidensh wrote:3) I hate all versions of movie Megatron. Its a design I've never cared for in any version of him. That said, when I found Jetfire at Target the other day, SS DotM Megatron was obviously there as well. Holding it in hand, I have to say, it looks much, much better than any of the pictures or reviews have shown him to be. I hate this design, but if I find it on sale, I'll be getting it. It does that much justice to the film character.

-Kanrabat- wrote:This is one of the very few voyager that I won't hesitate to pay the full 46$CAN when I see it at retail.

Seriously.

Perfect looking in all modes, paint everywhere, absolutely no blatant hollow bits, and a very clever transformation. It's like a freaking MASTERPIECE.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I still think the lower torso and the legs are atrocious.

-Kanrabat- wrote:However, I don't see how the legs are "atrocious". They acheive the perfect G1 look while storing all the truck bits in a very efficient way.

carytheone wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:However, I don't see how the legs are "atrocious". They acheive the perfect G1 look while storing all the truck bits in a very efficient way.

Well he's not wearing the typical go-go space boots. I remember complaints about skinny thighs in another thread. The blue boot bit doesn't seem to go as high and from the knee down is the same thickness as the top of the leg. I think they look fine, but I can see why people would have a problem with them not looking like we're accustomed to.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

carytheone wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:However, I don't see how the legs are "atrocious". They acheive the perfect G1 look while storing all the truck bits in a very efficient way.

Well he's not wearing the typical go-go space boots. I remember complaints about skinny thighs in another thread. The blue boot bit doesn't seem to go as high and from the knee down is the same thickness as the top of the leg. I think they look fine, but I can see why people would have a problem with them not looking like we're accustomed to.

Oh, so that's why I find those legs perfectly fine. They are more human proportioned than usual. A TF trope that is a nessecity but I don't really like are the huge lower legs with micro thighs. This Optimus have more "normal" looking legs. Furthermore I found it a genius move to see the truck bits integrate like the gaz canissers in the thighs.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.

I see. In that vain, I agree that they nailed the truck mode. For me the robot mode still leaves something to be desired. As far as G1 aesthetic is concerned, I thought they got the Evasion Mode version closer to what G1 Prime would look like in live action. I guess if there's a sequel to the Bee movie maybe we'll see more if this Prime.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.

I see. In that vain, I agree that they nailed the truck mode. For me the robot mode still leaves something to be desired. As far as G1 aesthetic is concerned, I thought they got the Evasion Mode version closer to what G1 Prime would look like in live action. I guess if there's a sequel to the Bee movie maybe we'll see more if this Prime.

How so? I can understand if Evasion Mode Optimus is how you prefer G1 Optimus to be interpreted in live action, but whether or not you think it's a good execution of it, Bumblebee Movie Optimus is a more direct translation of the G1 design into live action.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes, I got that it's your opinion, I was just wondering why you have that opinion, that's all. I'm trying to understand why most of the fandom is fainting over this figure. I don't see it, to me it's mediocre at best. I'm trying to look at it from a different perspective.

For me, it's the closest they have ever come to making what I envisioned a movie Prime should look like way back in the beginning if the movieverse. That's the best I can say. It looks more like Optimus than any other movie Optimus has.

I see. In that vain, I agree that they nailed the truck mode. For me the robot mode still leaves something to be desired. As far as G1 aesthetic is concerned, I thought they got the Evasion Mode version closer to what G1 Prime would look like in live action. I guess if there's a sequel to the Bee movie maybe we'll see more if this Prime.

How so? I can understand if Evasion Mode Optimus is how you prefer G1 Optimus to be interpreted in live action, but whether or not you think it's a good execution of it, Bumblebee Movie Optimus is a more direct translation of the G1 design into live action.

I disagree. The Bee Prime looks like an unfinished version of G1 Prime.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Hmm, torn on what to do with this Prime. I will get him, but he really won't go with my movie collection. Maybe he'll just be my voyager Prime for my Generations shelf.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:I'm not saying you can't think Evasion Mode Optimus is a better live-action interpretation of the G1 design, but Bee Optimus is at least a more literal and direct translation of it.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:I'm not saying you can't think Evasion Mode Optimus is a better live-action interpretation of the G1 design, but Bee Optimus is at least a more literal and direct translation of it.

I'm willing to concede that point, because I can see that that's what the intention was. But the figure is not finished, if they were going for G1 Prime. G1 Prime had a grille and legs and feet that were bulkier than the skeleton this figure is standing on. It's like his entire lower half was left undone. Ironically, the Siege voyager got it right in reverse. Near perfect robot mode, garbage truck mode. But that's going off topic.

Deadput wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:I'm not saying you can't think Evasion Mode Optimus is a better live-action interpretation of the G1 design, but Bee Optimus is at least a more literal and direct translation of it.

I'm willing to concede that point, because I can see that that's what the intention was. But the figure is not finished, if they were going for G1 Prime. G1 Prime had a grille and legs and feet that were bulkier than the skeleton this figure is standing on. It's like his entire lower half was left undone. Ironically, the Siege voyager got it right in reverse. Near perfect robot mode, garbage truck mode. But that's going off topic.

It's literally the design from the movie which was a Cybertronian form, he so happens to transform into the truck from the end of the movie.

He wouldn't have the grill or any other main truck parts.

Deadput wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:I'm not saying you can't think Evasion Mode Optimus is a better live-action interpretation of the G1 design, but Bee Optimus is at least a more literal and direct translation of it.

I'm willing to concede that point, because I can see that that's what the intention was. But the figure is not finished, if they were going for G1 Prime. G1 Prime had a grille and legs and feet that were bulkier than the skeleton this figure is standing on. It's like his entire lower half was left undone. Ironically, the Siege voyager got it right in reverse. Near perfect robot mode, garbage truck mode. But that's going off topic.

It's literally the design from the movie which was a Cybertronian form, he so happens to transform into the truck from the end of the movie.

He wouldn't have the grill or any other main truck parts.