Stock Images of Miner Megatron and Senator Ratbat 2 Pack

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:The design team is really doing their homework, even if they may set a questionable trend; Senator Ratbat being made of Scourge. First we had Universe 2008 Ratbat made of C-Sideways who was used for BotCon 2009 Scourge, then Generations Ratbat made of Scourge from the same line:


Transformers Generations Ratbat Gallery

Perceptor1996 wrote:I wonder is this is almost a sign that senator Ratbat could be in Transformers One. Just getting us ready to see these characters on the big screen.

Perceptor1996 wrote:I know that, it still doesn't mean it isn't tied into it. We started getting every Beast Wars character leading into a Beast themed movie. Now were getting a bunch of prewar characters leading into a prewar movie.

Sabrblade wrote:

Perceptor1996 wrote:I know that, it still doesn't mean it isn't tied into it. We started getting every Beast Wars character leading into a Beast themed movie. Now were getting a bunch of prewar characters leading into a prewar movie.

We got Beast Wars toys in Kingdom (two years ago, btw) because 2021 was the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars (and because of backlash when Hasbro did nothing to celebrate the 20th anniversary back in 2016).

Nemesis Destron wrote:No doubt there will be sellers on eBay that will separate this set for anyone who prefers one figure over the other.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:They're getting their use out of that SS86 Scourge mold.

Whifflefire wrote:Oooh, I am growing more fond of that Megatron. Ratbat also looks very nice. I don't have either of these molds myself (though I have experienced both through my brother's collection), so this might be something I go for if it's not too hard to obtain.

Regardless of whether is meant to tie in to Transformers One, I am glad they are still doing designs from the original IDW series. There's still hope for more MTMTE characters!

Emerje wrote:This is obviously part of a greater set of figures as Will alluded to in the article, it appears to be a debate stage of some sort with Ratbat facing off against somebody that would be on the opposite box. I'm thinking IDW Orion Pax in the bottom corner. But who would be in the top? I know what Senator I want it to be. Senator Shockwave! Maybe as either a retooled Siege Seeker or LE Metalhawk?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:They're getting their use out of that SS86 Scourge mold.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:They're getting their use out of that SS86 Scourge mold.

Like they did for the classic deluxe.
Yet they didn't for the Titan Returns one.

Transformers Toys Legacy Evolution Voyager Senator Shockwave & Deluxe Data Clerk Orion Pax Humble Origins 2-Pack, Action Figures for Boys and Girls Ages 8 and Up

HUMBLE ORIGINS 2-PACK: Experience the early origins of Shockwave and Optimus Prime with these two Transformers collectible action figures. This 2-Pack comes with Senator Shockwave and Data Clerk Orion Pax toys for 8 year old boys and girls
CELEBRATING PRE-CYBERTRONIAN WAR HISTORY: This 2-pack depicts Shockwave as a kind-hearted senator and Orion Pax as a data clerk working in the Cybertronian archives
2 EPIC MODES: Senator Shockwave Transformers action figure converts from robot to Cybertronian jet mode in 20 steps. Data Clerk Orion Pax Transformers figure converts from robot to Cybertronian all-terrain vehicle mode in 15 steps
AWESOME ACCESSORIES: These Transformers toys for 8 year old boys and girls come with Energon Axe and blaster accessories. Accessories attach to the figures in both modes
EXCLUSIVE PACKAGING ART: Packaging features a piece of exclusive artwork. Collect all pre-Cybertronian war packs to piece together the full scene (each sold separately, subject to availability)

Sabrblade wrote:So, who wants to guess what molds this Shockwave and Orion will be made out of? And from how things have been, our options are any molds from Siege, Earthrise, Kingdom, Studio Series 86, and Legacy.

Nemesis Primal wrote:You are either blessed with powers of prophecy...or you've looked at TFW and/or Amazon Australia sometime within the last hour and a half, and you've seen there's a listing that exists which uses the pictures and URL for the Tyranny set but has the name and description for:

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:You are either blessed with powers of prophecy...or you've looked at TFW and/or Amazon Australia sometime within the last hour and a half, and you've seen there's a listing that exists which uses the pictures and URL for the Tyranny set but has the name and description for:

Must be the former because this is the only TF fan site I visit. Just a very lucky guess is all.

I'm sticking with my guess of either Metal Hawk or a Siege Seeker retool. For Prime probably the Siege mold since I think it gives them more freedom to mess around with the truck mode. I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

Watch them do Impactor again.

Emerje.

Perceptor1996 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Perceptor1996 wrote:I know that, it still doesn't mean it isn't tied into it. We started getting every Beast Wars character leading into a Beast themed movie. Now were getting a bunch of prewar characters leading into a prewar movie.

We got Beast Wars toys in Kingdom (two years ago, btw) because 2021 was the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars (and because of backlash when Hasbro did nothing to celebrate the 20th anniversary back in 2016).

Toy development does not happen that quick and we know that they have been interesting in putting Beast Wars characters in the movies sense "The Last Knight" and "Rise of the Beast" was pushed back multiple times because both the pandemic and the need for more production time. The point of Kingdom was to bring the Beasts back into peoples memories and to be sure that Hasbro had all those name trademarks again. So it's a safe assumption that all these prewar two packs regardless of being based on G1, IDW or the Highmoon games are a form of brand synergy to get people in the mind set of prewar Transformers to build hype for "Transformers One".

Sabrblade wrote:So, who wants to guess what molds this Shockwave and Orion will be made out of? And from how things have been, our options are any molds from Siege, Earthrise, Kingdom, Studio Series 86, and Legacy.

Emerje wrote:I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, who wants to guess what molds this Shockwave and Orion will be made out of? And from how things have been, our options are any molds from Siege, Earthrise, Kingdom, Studio Series 86, and Legacy.

Emerje wrote:I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

Prime is said to be deluxe in the listing, so maybe just Kup again. Though the mold that would suit the IDW version best I think would be the new armada cab figure.

Shockwave would be metalhawk, pretty sure.

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, who wants to guess what molds this Shockwave and Orion will be made out of? And from how things have been, our options are any molds from Siege, Earthrise, Kingdom, Studio Series 86, and Legacy.

Emerje wrote:I can't see them going Deluxe, but maybe Hound could be used for Roller if there's a bottom half of the set featuring some Dekuxe figures.

Prime is said to be deluxe in the listing, so maybe just Kup again. Though the mold that would suit the IDW version best I think would be the new armada cab figure.

Shockwave would be metalhawk, pretty sure.

Well that's dumb, it should be the same Prime that was friends with Shockwave who was basically G1 Prime with some Cybertronian kibble in bot mode. We just got TWO deluxe Orion Pax figures in the past few years, time for a proper Voyager IDW version. The DW version was his War Within body, which would be a nice figure to have, but I don't see them making one. Wouldn't surprise me if they just reused the Pulse Orion Pax mold (from SS86 Kup) and gave it a new head.
Hopefully the listing is wrong as a lot of previous Amazon leaks have been such as the Golden Disk listings.

Emerje

sol magnus wrote:As for Pax, he's not IDW at all. He's Dreamwave - he was never a data clerk in IDW v.1.

Emerje wrote:Shockwave is a retooled Siege Seeker (called it!). They said they'd fight for a color variant if people ask for it, possibly as a Selects.

I wonder if Trashmaster is an Armada Overload retool since it has Evo-Fusion features?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Shockwave is a retooled Siege Seeker (called it!). They said they'd fight for a color variant if people ask for it, possibly as a Selects.

Purple and lavender?

I wonder if Trashmaster is an Armada Overload retool since it has Evo-Fusion features?

Would be be large enough as a voyager if he had the combining capability?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Shockwave is a retooled Siege Seeker (called it!). They said they'd fight for a color variant if people ask for it, possibly as a Selects.

Purple and lavender?

I wonder if Trashmaster is an Armada Overload retool since it has Evo-Fusion features?

Would be be large enough as a voyager if he had the combining capability?

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:Shockwave is a retooled Siege Seeker (called it!). They said they'd fight for a color variant if people ask for it, possibly as a Selects.

Purple and lavender?

This one.

Emerje wrote:I wonder if Trashmaster is an Armada Overload retool since it has Evo-Fusion features?

Nemesis Destron wrote:Man should have paid the engineers involved extra to better design the under part of Senator Shockwave's alt-mode ....'nuff said!

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:Man should have paid the engineers involved extra to better design the under part of Senator Shockwave's alt-mode ....'nuff said!

You are aware of how the Siege Tetrajet mold's altmode looks, yes?