SPOILER Interview with Lorenzo di Bonaventura, Transformers: The Last Knight Producer on Origin of Quintessa

After reading what he said it sounds very close to rise of apocalypse book he was Egyptian human who turned into first mutant


https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Apocalypse-X-Men-Terry-Kavanagh/dp/0785105867/ref=sr_1_53?tag=seibertron07-20&ie=UTF8&qid=1498781977&sr=8-53&keywords=Xmen+apocalypse+book

Yep. Just keep piling on the stupid. That'll help.


What does he say about beast wars? My phone won't play the video.

Insurgent wrote:What does he say about beast wars? My phone won't play the video.

He doesn't "get" Beast Wars. The idea of robots turning into animals is a concept his mind can't grasp an understanding of, despite his having been A-OK with the Dinobots being a thing.

So do we really need more proof that this franchise needs a reboot? It seems like the writers just keep coming up with dumber & dumber ideas as the franchise continues.

Wait, I thought Quintessa was the "Great Deceiver" and not one of the actual Creators as seen in AoE.

Possibly the creators we saw in AOE could have been Quintessa in a stage between cybertonian and human

By the way, to all of you here who insisted that we wait for the movie to see what explanation it would give for Bumblebee's self-reconstruction ability, how's that crow tasting for ya?

Sabrblade wrote:By the way, to all of you here who insisted that we wait for the movie to see what explanation it would give for Bumblebee's self-reconstruction ability, how's that crow tasting for ya?

You don't have to be this mean, you do know that, right?

Sabrblade wrote:By the way, to all of you here who insisted that we wait for the movie to see what explanation it would give for Bumblebee's self-reconstruction ability, how's that crow tasting for ya?

It was a guess like any other either they were right or they were wrong and same with people who said it wouldn't be explained those guys just so happened to be on the right side of the coin for this particuler situation.

That's what happens when people are speculating and over hyping themselves for something that hasn't been released.

Megatron Wolf wrote:So do we really need more proof that this franchise needs a reboot? It seems like the writers just keep coming up with dumber & dumber ideas as the franchise continues.

Transformers itself is a dumb idea and most things in the 33 years of the franchise have been rather dumb but the difference is whether it's enjoyable or not like seriously name one great and deep idea Transformers has had without it being a rip off of another idea.

Go ahead name one...

When was the last time a reboot helped anyways? This is a genuine question because in my opinion reboots are overrated and don't always work because I haven't heard anything recently about it for example Spiderman has been rebooted two times already and it's not exactly helping a reboot is not going to magic the problems away since the most important part is the execution and the smart thinking of the product and heck we don't even need a reboot we could get people to fix the movies kinda like how the Fast and Furious films got saved.

Deadput wrote:Transformers itself is a dumb idea

Please stop saying that. If that were true, no one would have seen any value in conceiving it back in the 1980s and none of us would even be here as we are right now. It obviously isn't a dumb idea as we all like it in some way, shape, or form enough to find merit in the idea, so much that it's had enough success and viability to last over three decades. If it's such an inherently dumb idea, then every one of us must all have been foolish enough to fall for it.

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Transformers itself is a dumb idea

Please stop saying that. If that were true, no one would have seen any value in conceiving it back in the 1980s and none of us would even be here as we are right now. It obviously isn't a dumb idea as we all like it in some way, shape, or form enough to find merit in the idea, so much that it's had enough success and viability to last over three decades. If it's such an inherently dumb idea, then every one of us must all have been foolish enough to fall for it.

I never said Transformers was a bad idea I said it was a dumb idea.

Because it is Transformers has always been a dumb, silly, fun, action packed brand who's main attraction is the Transforming robots fighting a war and their toys not the deep characterization or the grand story. (Has there ever been one outside of some of the comics?)

When has Transformers been great when it's super serious without being dull (TF:P) for the whole story?

Now I see why some staff hate movie season. We got some major assclowns in here.

Whatever.

Deadput wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Deadput wrote:Transformers itself is a dumb idea

Please stop saying that. If that were true, no one would have seen any value in conceiving it back in the 1980s and none of us would even be here as we are right now. It obviously isn't a dumb idea as we all like it in some way, shape, or form enough to find merit in the idea, so much that it's had enough success and viability to last over three decades. If it's such an inherently dumb idea, then every one of us must all have been foolish enough to fall for it.

I never said Transformers was a bad idea I said it was a dumb idea.

"Dumb idea" bears the connotation of "bad idea". If that wasn't your intent, then it's a poor choice of wording.

Deadput wrote:Because it is Transformers has always been a dumb, silly, fun, action packed brand who's main attraction is the Transforming robots fighting a war and their toys not the deep characterization or the grand story. (Has there ever been one outside of some of the comics?)

Beast Machines.

Deadput wrote:When has Transformers been great when it's super serious without being dull (TF:P) for the whole story?

Beast Machines (which also had plenty of humor and levity sprinkled throughout its gravitas).

Sabrblade wrote:"Dumb idea" bears the connotation of "bad idea". If that wasn't your intent, then it's a poor choice of wording.

I do mean dumb as in just "dumb fun" or whatever the term is I'm not exactly the best in grammar and my understanding of many words is not always accurate I'm good at making myself sound smart in conversations even to the contrary.

Sabrblade wrote: Beast Machines.

Never watched that show but I do hear that it was a deep show with all the organic vs machine...too bad it has an aesthetic I can't stand at all besides the Vehicons like it has to look good to me for me to be able to enjoy it which I guess is part of why I tolerate the Bay movies.

But Beast Machines wasn't even popular in our fan base when it first came around at the time. (I don't know for sure I was like 4 or 5 back then)

First off, I will say this... Overall, I enjoy the movies. More than anything it's probably nostalgia and my love of the Transfomers that fuels that enjoyment... It's also that love and nostalgia that fuels my anger and disgust in many instances. I am thankful Michael Bay got this going , but I wish he had left after the first movie... I am so used to carefully constructed narratives (Marvel Cinematic Universe comes to mind ) that make the sins of the Transformers movies all the more apparent.

That being said...I read that little blurb from the interview. UGH what a load of Junkion Excrement!! I totally get wanting to be original and make things "your own," but give me a break. Have these jokers ever watched ANY of the series? Read any of the books? My God, if you have ever read the Covenant of Primus the creation arc in that is phenomenal!!! Why rewrite the Transformers Bible when it's already artfully laid out before you?!?

Of course that same question is what I have been asking since "The Fallen came to Earth 10,000 years ago." Marvel movie makers take inspiration from the comics, make minor changes, add a touch of creativity and make it their own...Everyone else wants to copy what Marvel is doing, why the heck can't they do that ONE LITTLE THING for the Transfomers??

Alas, I hope the Bumblebee movie breaks the mold, since Bay isn't directing and the directors keep talking about going for the 80's feel... We can hope.

So if I understand correctly, this is how the timeline has been changed...

Transformers: Here's some Transformers!
RotF: Oh hey turns out they've been around longer than we thought!
DotM: Oh hey turns out they've been around since at least the sixties, this is crazy!
AoE: Yeah, it's crazy how long they've been around, right?
TLK: Oh hey turns out they've REALLY been around since the dark ages!
TF6: Hey guess what guys now HUMANS have been around longer than we thought and they BUILT Transformers, which makes them both older than we thought!
TF7: Jesus built Grimlock as his personal steed.
TF8: God built Jesus.
TF9: Wheeljack built God.
Bumblebee: Bumblebee built Wheeljack.

Makes sense to me.

I watched the movie fairly recently.

Dear lord, what a mess. I love the movie series but even I can't defend this one. I was hoping after AoE's return to form that this would be the best one yet. Alas, it may be the absolute nadir of quality for these movies.

I'm not gonna write a full review because A: I'm not smart/pretentious enough to be a movie critic and B: I can't be bothered, but I will go over the ups and downs.

The good:

>Cogman was great, if overdone a little. As a sociopathic robo-butler he was superb.
>Seeing the HMS Alliance was great, and the implication it's a female transformer was extra-great. (FWIW it's a fantastic museum, with actual members of the crew as guides.)
>The robot designs were top-notch, even the "recycled" ones.
>MACHO MECH NITRO ZEUS was superb and I want him.
>Anthony Hopkins did the best he could given the material he was given.
>Megatron, despite doing very little, was cool.
>Steve Buscemi!

The bad:

>The Decepticons are criminally wasted. Barricade does nothing and gets punked by Bumblebee AGAIN, Megatron doesn't get to do much, Nitro Zeus is funny but ultimately inconsequential, Berserker isn't even in the movie for more than 10 seconds (why did he get a toy again?), Dreadbot and Onslaught do absolutely nothing and die unceremoniously, Mohawk gets...non-fatally decapitated, and Infernocus does bugger all.
>Hot Rod is annoying. Why is he French? Why does he have that ludicrous head design?
>Speaking of wasted designs, we got a Hawker Hurricane and WW1 Tank transformer...and they don't do ANYTHING of consequence! We didn't even get toys of them!
>Hound doesn't get to do much awesome, which is a shame as he was the best part of AOE.
>Sqweeks, whilst cute, is ultimately unnecessary.
>Dragonstorm would have been awesome if he'd actually done anything at all.
>Merlin, the legendary wisest man in all the world, is portrayed as a drunkard and a moron.
>Vivian is a stereotypical Hollywood English woman, and not a very good one either.
>Whilst it was nice to see the HMS Alliance, it is worth noting that the actual submarine doesn't have windows like that (I'm pretty sure flat square glass windows like those would just implode and shatter at those depths). An autistic nitpick for certain, but eh.
>Cogman, whilst hilarious, was definitely overdone. The gangsta stuff was cringeworthy.
>Dinobabies. WTF?
>The plot is completely nonsensical. Not that we came here for great plot, but this one was reeeeaaaally bad.
>The product placement was really noticeable. Particularly the Chinese car website.

The Ugly:

>Cade is...boring really. He was OK in AOE but he was tiresome in this movie.
>That black dude is really, really annoying. Like, what was he there for? Diversity quotas?
>The kids in the opening were just the worst. They couldn't act and it was obvious they were cast to fill the generic Hollywood kid roles- fat one, hispanic one, black one, white nerdy loser one (because according to hollywood, if you're white and wear glasses and act "nerdy" you have to be a tremendous dork)...

And finally, the absolute mountain of sh!t that eclipsed the sun and turned what could have been a mediocre movie into an astonishingly bad one...

>Izabella. My god, what an unlikeable, irritating, badly acted, jumped up and generally punchable little turd. She spends the whole movie doing one of two things: Being an arrogant and annoying gobsh!te or crying. She's supposed to be "badass" but she simultaneously comes across as a Mary Sue AND a useless burden. She does basically nothing the entire film other than announce to the world that she exists and she wants you to take her seriously...

...Wait a minute, holy crap, she's CW Windblade in human form!

So yeah. Not a good movie. Wait for it to hit clearance on Blu-Ray. Certainly don't make the mistake I did and shell out for Imax. It isn't worth it.

No need to spoiler tag your post in this spoiler thread.

Whoops! I forgot Seibertron doesn't use "shrinkable box" spoilers. Will fix.

Cogman was annyoing as hell, the robots just spewed out some random lines that made no sense whatsoever. Everything about the Transformers seems so messy. Everything from their behaviour to their lines. The only ones I liked in this pile of garbage movie was Barricade. He talked normally and was calm.

Dmhead wrote:Cogman was annyoing as hell, the robots just spewed out some random lines that made no sense whatsoever. Everything about the Transformers seems so messy. Everything from their behaviour to their lines. The only ones I liked in this pile of garbage movie was Barricade. He talked normally and was calm.

What lines didn't make sense?

Deadput wrote:

Dmhead wrote:Cogman was annyoing as hell, the robots just spewed out some random lines that made no sense whatsoever. Everything about the Transformers seems so messy. Everything from their behaviour to their lines. The only ones I liked in this pile of garbage movie was Barricade. He talked normally and was calm.

What lines didn't make sense?

They made no sense because it wasn't structured well. Humans had 80% screentime, while the Transformers had like 10. The rest was action scenes.

Dmhead wrote:They made no sense because it wasn't structured well. Humans had 80% screentime, while the Transformers had like 10. The rest was action scenes.

So how does that make them nonsensical? And what does robot screentime have to do with it? They actually had plenty of screentime in the movie it's just that most of said screnntime isn't all that meaningful.


(Anyways there will most likely not be any Transformers films with more then 30 percent screentime anytime soon but perhaps 15 years from now when technology advances more)

Sabrblade wrote:

Insurgent wrote:What does he say about beast wars? My phone won't play the video.

He doesn't "get" Beast Wars. The idea of robots turning into animals is a concept his mind can't grasp an understanding of, despite his having been A-OK with the Dinobots being a thing.

But... that's a stupid thing to say when you have animal transformers in every single movie to date. Including this very one.


As for the robot screen time, film them in vehicle mode because they are being in disguise but allow them to talk in vehicle mode and place them on set like they are looking at each other and the humans they are talkign to. That'll save time. It irks me when I see them in vehicle modes lined up like they are just normal vehicles that have been parked. And a friend pointed out this is the first time we see an Autobot talk in vehicle mode (any transformer if you don't count the Decepticon mobilisation scene in the first film).


At first, I thought the hand from AOE could have been Quintessa pre robotic, but the shape doesn't match at all. So she must have got a completely new hand design when she roboticised if it is her. I hope it isn't. Give us some good from this flaming pile.

Huh. My sig appears to have broken. I'll have to fix that eventually.

Insurgent wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Insurgent wrote:What does he say about beast wars? My phone won't play the video.

He doesn't "get" Beast Wars. The idea of robots turning into animals is a concept his mind can't grasp an understanding of, despite his having been A-OK with the Dinobots being a thing.

But... that's a stupid thing to say when you have animal transformers in every single movie to date. Including this very one.

I think he is referring to organic beastformers hence Beast Wars.

And honestly I agree with that since I've never liked the aesthetic design of Beast Wars and Beast Machines so basically I'm fine with robot animals like Ravage but I don't like organic ones like say Cheetor I ended up watching Beast Wars only because I heard how good it was and I did enjoy the story and characters but I still hate how the show and characters look.

As a kid I liked Transformers that turned into...well actual mechanical vehicles since that made sense for a robot unlike a robot turning into an organic thing unless it was just a skin like the Terminator.

Beast Wars wouldn't work in a live action setting anyways at least not in this day and age plus even if they made a Beast Wars film it wouldn't be much like the original since their not going to copy and paste the story and characters from the show because 1:That's lazy 2: It would still take place in the Bay movies universe.

Plus the uncanny effect and if they put Tarantulas, Blackarachnia, insects or snakes I would never watch it...ever I would rather drink acid.

Oh I never want them to do a live action Beast Wars. But it is just a skin like the terminator, as you say. And even if you ignore the organic skin layer protects them from the energon radiation same way it protects the terminator from the time travel device effects, it could still work in a modern day setting as a disguise. Just think how unnerving it would be if not just any vehicle you see could turn into an alien death robot, but any animal you see could too.

Deadput wrote:As a kid I liked Transformers that turned into...well actual mechanical vehicles since that made sense for a robot unlike a robot turning into an organic thing unless it was just a skin like the Terminator.

Which is exactly what it was for. To shield them from Energon radiation.

Burn wrote:

Deadput wrote:As a kid I liked Transformers that turned into...well actual mechanical vehicles since that made sense for a robot unlike a robot turning into an organic thing unless it was just a skin like the Terminator.

Which is exactly what it was for. To shield them from Energon radiation.

I meant more like they actually wear it over them like a suit is what I mean.

Deadput wrote:

Burn wrote:

Deadput wrote:As a kid I liked Transformers that turned into...well actual mechanical vehicles since that made sense for a robot unlike a robot turning into an organic thing unless it was just a skin like the Terminator.

Which is exactly what it was for. To shield them from Energon radiation.

I meant more like they actually wear it over them like a suit is what I mean.

They do. The organic parts of them in beast wars, at least before they start mutating and whatnot, is just a layer of skin over their robotic bodies. Strip away that organic skin suit and they are as robotic as g1 guys. Beast machines is more integrated, yes.

TLK was a bit too much for me. The worst of the live-action film franchise, IMO. I think it fell into the trap many franchises are falling into since the success of the Marvel Cinematic Universe - building for other movies.

Dislikes:

- So little Optimus Prime should have given room for Bumblebee to be more of a leader, yet Cade is essentially one giving the orders.

- Why weren't Grimlock and Slug in the final battle?

- I really really really wanted to see Cogman as an actual Headmaster

- Credits scene felt a little too X-Men: Apocalypse to me

- Why was Megatron's crew his crew? Other than Barricade, these guys are all new to me.

- Doing nothing with Earth being Unicron.

- Bumblebee speaking is what turns Nemesis Prime back to Optimus Prime. The movie's "Martha" moment. It was cheesy in BvS. It was even cheesier here. Oh and just give Bumblebee his voice back full-time.


Likes:

- Still love the visuals.

- The idea that Unicron is Earth. It was one of my favorite reveals in the TF: Prime cartoon.

- Lennox being a spy within the TRF.


Minor tweaks I would have made:

- A scene showing Nemesis Prime stalking Megatron before Megatron and his crew attacked Cade and the Autobots.

- Cogman doing the Headmaster gimmick on Crosshairs or one of the Decepticons in the abandoned city battle.

Dark of the Moon is still my personal favorite from the live-action series though it felt like actual screen time for Transformers was raised in Age of Extinction. IMO, DotM should have been the end of the series with the Transformers exposed to the mass population (Mission City incident from the first film being blamed on advanced drones).


Bumblebee's spin-off begins shooting soon. Set in the 80s? Sounds like a soft-reboot to do some fan service.

Rysquad wrote:
- So little Optimus Prime should have given room for Bumblebee to be more of a leader, yet Cade is essentially one giving the orders.

Because Cade is actually a leader and not an immature bot-child. Who would ever make Bee leader hell Crosshairs and Drift don't like him as a leader.

Rysquad wrote:- Why was Megatron's crew his crew? Other than Barricade, these guys are all new to me.

Because Megatron's the leader of the Decepticons therefore making all Decepticons part of his crew.

All the other high ranking Decepticons are dead that's why we got these guys who in other universes would probably be the low ranked front line grunts. (Nitro Zeus was the best con anyways and one of the best in the franchise period)

Rysquad wrote:- Doing nothing with Earth being Unicron.

He's not the villian in the movie! He's next movie's villain like Thanos is in the marvel movies.

Rysquad wrote:- A scene showing Nemesis Prime stalking Megatron before Megatron and his crew attacked Cade and the Autobots.

Why would he be stalking Megatron? Prime wasn't himself at the time and they were also on the same side at the time so once again why would he be stalking Megatron and not doing his job of getting the staff?

Plus Prime was still on Cybertron at the time

Rysquad wrote:- Cogman doing the Headmaster gimmick on Crosshairs or one of the Decepticons in the abandoned city battle.

That would kill Crosshairs so basically your saying let a good guy kill a good guy for no reason.

Why would Cogman need to take over him anyways there's no point and Cogman wasn't fighting the Decepticons at any point in the movie so there never was any point where he could do that.

Deadput wrote:

Rysquad wrote:- Cogman doing the Headmaster gimmick on Crosshairs or one of the Decepticons in the abandoned city battle.

That would kill Crosshairs so basically your saying let a good guy kill a good guy for no reason.

Well he was a little on the nuts side ...

Burn wrote:Well he was a little on the nuts side ...

It would fit the character true but kids/fans are going to hate that.

That's like if in the next star wars Chewbacca gets killed gruesomely by some new good guy character for a dumb reason in the first hour of the movie do you think were going to like the new character after that?

How many people like Kylo Ren for doing you-know-what to you-know-who?

Deadput wrote:How many people like Kylo Ren for doing you-know-what to you-know-who?

I do. I never liked Han. Not even in the original trilogy.

Deadput wrote:

Burn wrote:Well he was a little on the nuts side ...

It would fit the character true but kids/fans are going to hate that.

You know this how exactly?

By this stage, people should be use to the "good guys" doing stuff "good guys" don't normally do. You have watched Optimus Prime in the previous four movies yeah?

Burn wrote:You know this how exactly?

By this stage, people should be use to the "good guys" doing stuff "good guys" don't normally do. You have watched Optimus Prime in the previous four movies yeah?

That's not what I meant like Kids hated Hot Rod back in 1986 and he didn't even kill Optiimus directly!

I mean specifically good guys killing good guys without a good reason. How are we supposed to like this new guy when one of the first things he does is kill one of the good guys just to show off a gimmick which he could of done with one of the Decepticons it wouldn't even be a twist or anything it would just be bad writing.

How would you feel if one of the G1 season 2 guys killed off one of the season 1 characters like Hound or Jazz just to show off an ability in their first episode and everybody was cool with it.

Like Bumblebee would fry Cogman right there for doing that to Crosshairs and it would be out of character if Cade and the Autobots were cool with that.

It would actually expand on his character. He's clearly not right in the head, so as far as I'm concerned it wouldn't be out of character.

And it could easily be made to fit into the movie, but it would require competent writing, and that just wasn't going to happen.

I don't know why they even bothered mentioning he was a Headmaster. I suspect there may have been scenes cut as Ryan himself told us that he was supposed to rip heads off and take over the bodies.

Burn wrote:It would actually expand on his character. He's clearly not right in the head, so as far as I'm concerned it wouldn't be out of character.

And it could easily be made to fit into the movie, but it would require competent writing, and that just wasn't going to happen.

I don't know why they even bothered mentioning he was a Headmaster. I suspect there may have been scenes cut as Ryan himself told us that he was supposed to rip heads off and take over the bodies.

It would be in character for Cogman but it would not be in character for Cade, Bee, Hound and Drift to not kill Cogman right there and then.

You think Cade is going to willingly go with a guy who just tore off one of his friends heads and took over his body?

A week before the movie came out there was some small fan event in London or something the cast and Bay were there and one of the few things that Bay talked about were that Cogman's scenes were not able to be completed in time so that's why the stuff wasn't in the film.

Deadput wrote:It would be in character for Cogman but it would not be in character for Cade, Bee, Hound and Drift to not kill Cogman right there and then.

You think Cade is going to willingly go with a guy who just tore off one of his friends heads and took over his body?

Oh Deadput, ever the argumentative aren't you?

I've never once spoken about the characters of others, I've never once spoken of their reaction.

You're just putting words into my mouth to try to justify your position.

And the hilarious part is, we're actually agreeing with each other but you can't control your temper long enough to see it.

Burn wrote:Oh Deadput, ever the argumentative aren't you?

And the hilarious part is, we're actually agreeing with each other but you can't control your temper long enough to see it.

Not trying to be right or something I'm just trying to state what I think are the facts.

Sorry Burn I did not realize that I'm not even mad either just saying although I don't blame anyone for thinking so I'm very literal(is that the word?)

When you said

Burn wrote:as far as I'm concerned it wouldn't be out of character.

I thought you were misinterpreting what I said about it being out of character for Cade and Bee.

It would be in character for Cogman that I agree with.

At this point, the writers of these films basically only know how to write a single personality trait for just about every Transformer in these movies: "Jerkish homicidal maniac".

Sabrblade wrote:At this point, the writers of these films basically only know how to write a single personality trait for just about every Transformer in these movies: "Jerkish homicidal maniac".

But what about...
...
...
...
well shit.

Burn wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:At this point, the writers of these films basically only know how to write a single personality trait for just about every Transformer in these movies: "Jerkish homicidal maniac".

But what about...
...
...
...
well ****.

Heh, you jest, but my saying "just about" leaves room for any personality-less nonentities like Sqweeks, or a genuine good guy like Que.

Fairly certain Sqweeks is just a closet jerkish homicidal maniac.

Burn wrote:Fairly certain Sqweeks is just a closet jerkish homicidal maniac.

I wouldn't know. The movie barely let me get to know the guy.

Sabrblade wrote:At this point, the writers of these films basically only know how to write a single personality trait for just about every Transformer in these movies: "Jerkish homicidal maniac".

That's why I like them so much.

Burn wrote:Fairly certain Sqweeks is just a closet jerkish homicidal maniac.

I saw him as a sort of everyman who was just trapped in a malformed, barely functional body. He clearly put a lot of effort into the...two or so things that he did in the movie, and I feel like he was just really confused throughout. I mean, if YOU were introduced to the Cybertronian War by Isabela Moner crushing on and adopting you, you'd be mighty confused, too.

Nitro Zeus wrote:

Burn wrote:Fairly certain Sqweeks is just a closet jerkish homicidal maniac.

I saw him as a sort of everyman who was just trapped in a malformed, barely functional body. He clearly put a lot of effort into the...two or so things that he did in the movie, and I feel like he was just really confused throughout. I mean, if YOU were introduced to the Cybertronian War by Isabela Moner crushing on and adopting you, you'd be mighty confused, too.

Yeah ... he was totally a jerkish homicidal maniac that was just kept on a leash by a teenage girl.

As much as I like Sqweeks there was no point in him being there and all of the things he did could have been done by someone else Canopy was enough I think and I did really like Canopy for what little time he was on screen for and I liked his voice which was different from the norm.

Heck apparently Izabella doesn't consider Sqweeks to be family considering she said Canopy was the last of her family which makes me think Sqweeks wasn't in the script and was a late addition to be a money maker for Hasbro...... or Sqweeks is the equivalent of a pet.