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Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries

Transformers News: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries

Wednesday, November 20th, 2019 11:38AM CST

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We have a slew of sightings for the final figures in the Siege line. Apeface was already released online in the Us and at brick and mortar in Canada but that was just the beginning. In the span of one day, we have sightings from Australia, Canada and the US for sought after toys such as leader Astrotrain, deluxe Crosshairs & Spinister and micromasters Ratbat & Rumble and Direct Hit & Power Punch.

Here are a breakdown of the sightings:

Leader Astrotrain has been found in Australia at Toymate Majura Park in Canberra for $79.99 AUD. Here is the source.
Leader Astrotrain has been found in the US at Walmart in Newburgh, NY. The sightings comes from rattrap007.
Leader Astrotrain has been found in Canada at Toysrus in Oakville Ontario by Matt, who wrote to us on our Facebook page.

Micromaster wave 5 2 packs have been found in Canada at Toysrus in Winnepeg. Source is Cybertron.ca.
Micromaster wave 5 2 packs have been found in the US at Target in Tallahassee. The sighting comes from Golddeadend.

Deluxe Crosshairs & Spinister have been found in the US at Walmart in Milwaukee. The sightings comes from Scypris.

Transformers News: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries

Transformers News: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries

Transformers News: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries
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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045081)
Posted by Glarryg on November 20th, 2019 @ 12:13pm CST
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I got my Apeface in the mail today and I wanted to point out that, since his torso completely flips over when going from robot to ape mode, the robot mode's headmaster socket becomes the ape mode's sphincter.

Glarryg
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045082)
Posted by Skritz on November 20th, 2019 @ 12:22pm CST
Glarryg wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I got my Apeface in the mail today and I wanted to point out that, since his torso completely flips over when going from robot to ape mode, the robot mode's headmaster socket becomes the ape mode's sphincter.

Glarryg


So if you have the TR Titanmaster you can give him a literal butthead? :-?
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045083)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 20th, 2019 @ 12:27pm CST
Glarryg wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I got my Apeface in the mail today and I wanted to point out that, since his torso completely flips over when going from robot to ape mode, the robot mode's headmaster socket becomes the ape mode's sphincter.

Glarryg


A carry over from prolapse of the primes range :)
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045090)
Posted by Bounti76 on November 20th, 2019 @ 2:28pm CST
Now that the final figures of the Siege line have started to make their way out to retail in the U.S., all the codes included with the packaging can now be input into Transformers.com to reveal a map of Cybertron! All you need to do is buy every Siege figure to find the hidden codes on the packages. Should be easy and inexpensive, right? You could do that, or..... you could feast your eyes on these photos that have been included below, with many thanks to Seibertronian ScottyP for these screenshots! The final code, included with Spinister, reveals not only his profile, but also a beautifully rendered map of the Transformers home planet. Check them out and let us know what you think below!

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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045100)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 20th, 2019 @ 5:18pm CST
Looks like the Aligned media version of Cybertron.

Odd that Kaon is up in the northern hemisphere not too far from Iacon, when it was previously in the southern hemisphere far away from Iacon as per the Dreamwave version of Cybertron seen in The Ultimate Guide.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045102)
Posted by Flashwave on November 20th, 2019 @ 5:20pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Looks like the Aligned media version of Cybertron.

Odd that Kaon is up in the northern hemisphere not too far from Iacon, when it was previously in the southern hemisphere far away from Iacon as per the Dreamwave version of Cybertron seen in The Ultimate Guide.

Northern Hemisphere, but opposite side. I am more intrigued about the "Unicron Ejection Site'" where Kaon should be. Has this Cybertron already dealt with the Cahos Bringer? Was a cast off of rhe planet rather thsn a brother? A mitosis of Cybertron?
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045103)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 20th, 2019 @ 5:24pm CST
Flashwave wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Looks like the Aligned media version of Cybertron.

Odd that Kaon is up in the northern hemisphere not too far from Iacon, when it was previously in the southern hemisphere far away from Iacon as per the Dreamwave version of Cybertron seen in The Ultimate Guide.

Northern Hemisphere, but opposite side.
That's another thing, too. Iacon not being at the north pole of the planet like before.

Even more bizarre is that the High Council Pavilions are not only outside of Iacon but so far away that they apparently have their own municipal jurisdiction and zip code! :P
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045108)
Posted by Flashwave on November 20th, 2019 @ 5:51pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Looks like the Aligned media version of Cybertron.

Odd that Kaon is up in the northern hemisphere not too far from Iacon, when it was previously in the southern hemisphere far away from Iacon as per the Dreamwave version of Cybertron seen in The Ultimate Guide.

Northern Hemisphere, but opposite side.
That's another thing, too. Iacon not being at the north pole of the planet like before.

Even more bizarre is that the High Council Pavilions are not only outside of Iacon but so far away that they apparently have their own municipal jurisdiction and zip code! :P

Similar to DC being seperate I guess
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045110)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 20th, 2019 @ 5:56pm CST
Flashwave wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Looks like the Aligned media version of Cybertron.

Odd that Kaon is up in the northern hemisphere not too far from Iacon, when it was previously in the southern hemisphere far away from Iacon as per the Dreamwave version of Cybertron seen in The Ultimate Guide.

Northern Hemisphere, but opposite side.
That's another thing, too. Iacon not being at the north pole of the planet like before.

Even more bizarre is that the High Council Pavilions are not only outside of Iacon but so far away that they apparently have their own municipal jurisdiction and zip code! :P

Similar to DC being seperate I guess
Also, Darkmount is nowhere near Polyhex, when the two were first introduced in Marvel as Darkmount being Straxus's fortress in Polyhex.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045124)
Posted by Seibertron on November 20th, 2019 @ 7:08pm CST
It all makes sense now ...

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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045127)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 20th, 2019 @ 7:39pm CST
Seibertron wrote:It all makes sense now ...

No.

>:oP












:lol:
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045136)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 20th, 2019 @ 9:43pm CST
I just picked up Bluestreak and I have to say it's actually a pretty nice figure. Only real complaint is that the door wings can't be angled, but other than that he's nice
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045137)
Posted by STngAR on November 20th, 2019 @ 9:48pm CST
Seibertron wrote:It all makes sense now ...

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Wait... what???
Planet Jublees
:POPCORN:

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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045144)
Posted by TFfangeek on November 20th, 2019 @ 11:41pm CST
I do not know if a full list of the Transformers Siege black light codes has been posted here on Seibertron, but if not here are all 33 codes listed by wave/group that they were released in.

Siege Black Light Codes:

Wave 1
Cog-fortressmaximus
Sideswipe-sunstreaker
Hound-maccadams
Skytread/Flywheels-duocon
Optimus Prime-iacon
Megatron-kaon
Shockwave-tarn
Ultra Magnus-forgeofsolus

Wave 2
Soundwave: LAMPPOST
Sixgun: METROPLEX
Prowl – PRAXUS
Ironhide – TRITHYLLIUM
Starscream – NULLRAY
Chromia – SIIEXXXIITSFAT

Wave 3

Red Alert-rung
Brunt-Trypticon
Refraktor-Reflector
Springer-Triplechanger
Galaxy upgrade Optimus Prime-Convoy
Jetfire-Skyfire
Omega Supreme-Crystalcity

Wave 4

Barricade: Badcop
Mirage: Turbofox
Impactor: Wreckers
Thundercracker: Seekers

Wave 5

Spinister: Rspiniste
Crosshairs: Pinpoint
Apeface: Turboworm
Astrotrain: Ionicdisplacer

Exclusives

Greenlight-lancer
Ratchet-Arcwelder
Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce (G2 Sideswipe and Slamdance)-Grandrain
Decepticon Phantom Strike Squadron- (Skywarp and Battlemasters)-Teleport

Transform and Roll Out...to the Earthrise toy line.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045152)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 21st, 2019 @ 2:22am CST
Seibertron wrote:It all makes sense now ...

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Well, there's another thing I can't unsee >:oP
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045155)
Posted by Flashwave on November 21st, 2019 @ 3:06am CST
TFfangeek wrote:Chromia – SIIEXXXIITSFAT
.

Um... What the heck? Did the writer fall asleep on his keyboard for that?
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045158)
Posted by Buck2814 on November 21st, 2019 @ 5:24am CST
Flashwave wrote:
TFfangeek wrote:Chromia – SIIEXXXIITSFAT
.

Um... What the heck? Did the writer fall asleep on his keyboard for that?


No. It stands for Season 2 Episode 32 The Search For Alpha Trion
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045162)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 21st, 2019 @ 8:58am CST
Flashwave wrote:
TFfangeek wrote:Chromia – SIIEXXXIITSFAT
.

Um... What the heck? Did the writer fall asleep on his keyboard for that?

If I remember correctly when Chromia came out, people on this site were saying it was Season 2 Episode 32 Search For Alpha Trion because she first appeared in that episode
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045166)
Posted by haldand on November 21st, 2019 @ 11:35am CST
I love stuff like this. Always loved maps, even as a kid.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045173)
Posted by william-james88 on November 21st, 2019 @ 6:19pm CST
Flashwave wrote:
TFfangeek wrote:Chromia – SIIEXXXIITSFAT
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Um... What the heck? Did the writer fall asleep on his keyboard for that?

Do you know of Roman Numerals?
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045175)
Posted by STngAR on November 21st, 2019 @ 6:36pm CST
I was in shock today when I went to Walmart and they had Crosshairs and Spinister. That head sculpt on Spinister is amazing. ;)^

:MAXIMAL:
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045179)
Posted by Flashwave on November 21st, 2019 @ 7:17pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
TFfangeek wrote:Chromia – SIIEXXXIITSFAT
.

Um... What the heck? Did the writer fall asleep on his keyboard for that?

Do you know of Roman Numerals?


...ah ha. Okay then. A puzzle in an enigma. I didnt pick up on that being a roman numeral. Makes more sense then.

EDIT: S2 E32 The Search for Alpha Trion. Okay. Got it
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045185)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 21st, 2019 @ 7:58pm CST
As we reported a few days ago, Amazon.com currently has the Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Apeface up for $24.99, a 20% off deal. And Apeface is still in stock at this moment.

Well, after Apeface, we also have news that the 2 final deluxes from Siege are also now on Amazon. Spinister and Crosshairs are currently listed on Amazon for Pre-order, and as a bonus, Crosshairs is listed as $17.99, a $2 savings (10%). The pre-orders are set to come in stock at the end of December, and if you are someone who was looking for another Transformer to help you cross the free shipping mark with Apeface, you are in luck, as pre-orders count towards the shipping!

You can click on any of the pictures below to take you straight to their Amazon page and place your orders! And let us know in the comments section below what all you pick up, and stay tuned, as hopefully the remaining members of the wave will be up (and maybe at reduced prices) too!

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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045193)
Posted by Flashwave on November 21st, 2019 @ 9:22pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:As we reported a few days ago, Amazon.com currently has the Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Apeface up for $24.99, a 20% off deal. And Apeface is still in stock at this moment.

Well, after Apeface, we also have news that the 2 final deluxes from Siege are also now on Amazon. Spinister and Crosshairs are currently listed on Amazon for Pre-order, and as a bonus, Crosshairs is listed as $17.99, a $2 savings (10%). The pre-orders are set to come in stock at the end of December, and if you are someone who was looking for another Transformer to help you cross the free shipping mark with Apeface, you are in luck, as pre-orders count towards the shipping!

You can click on any of the pictures below to take you straight to their Amazon page and place your orders! And let us know in the comments section below what all you pick up, and stay tuned, as hopefully the remaining members of the wave will be up (and maybe at reduced prices) too!

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Apinister is Already unavailable. Poop. That wasnt up long. Pre order is open for Crosshairs. I cannot decide though if I really like this rehead of Ironhide as acrosshairs nore than I do having been using Cloud RoadBuster as Crosshairs.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045198)
Posted by bodrock on November 21st, 2019 @ 10:42pm CST
Spinister looks great!! I am going to have a hard time resisting him.....I got lucky and scored Astrotrain in Oregon, at the Starwarstore.com physical location in the Washington Square mall.
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He was certainly on my must-have list! If I can find Rung and Ratbat, I will be good....until Earthrise :ic$:
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045203)
Posted by kirbenvost on November 22nd, 2019 @ 2:56am CST
Spinister is currently unavailable.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045213)
Posted by joevill on November 22nd, 2019 @ 11:09am CST
not available! #-o
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045222)
Posted by bodrock on November 22nd, 2019 @ 12:22pm CST
Transforming Astrotrain to spaceship was almost a blast from the past — it’s not as sleek as the G1 model, but he’s fully loaded with an arsenal now!
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Good luck on all your hunts this week, TF fans!
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045243)
Posted by boyatlarge on November 22nd, 2019 @ 2:37pm CST
I just picked up Spinister at my local Walmart (Rogers, AR). There was only 2 of them so I grabbed one. Crosshairs was there, too (3 of them) but since I have Ironhide and Rachet already, not needing Crosshairs right now. May want to check your local Walmarts.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045254)
Posted by adamage1 on November 22nd, 2019 @ 3:31pm CST
Heads up: there may be a variant/factory defect out there for WFC: Siege Blue Streak. Of the 5 copies I found at Walmart (52nd Ave. location in Fargo), one of them was missing the silver face paint (see photo).

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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045356)
Posted by Mindmaster on November 24th, 2019 @ 11:46am CST
Got my Micromasters, Battlemasters, and Apeface in a couple nights ago. I like the Micromaster Combiner idea and hope they do more sets like these in the future. Ratbat and Frenzy Rumble are nice additions to the Soundwave fam, even if Rumble’s a little chubby. Rung is pure win, looks great with other IDW-original figures, and Singe looks good with Hairsplitter/Schrute/whatever. Apeface is neat, but I like his jet mode more than I do his gorilla mode.

Can’t wait for Spinister, Crosshairs, and Astrotrain!
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045357)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 24th, 2019 @ 11:56am CST
Mindmaster wrote:Got my Micromasters, Battlemasters, and Apeface in a couple nights ago. I like the Micromaster Combiner idea and hope they do more sets like these in the future. Ratbat and Frenzy Rumble are nice additions to the Soundwave fam, even if Rumble’s a little chubby. Rung is pure win, looks great with other IDW-original figures, and Singe looks good with Hairsplitter/Schrute/whatever. Apeface is neat, but I like his jet mode more than I do his gorilla mode.

Can’t wait for Spinister, Crosshairs, and Astrotrain!

In terms of transforming Apeface, I agree. Everytime I do the gorilla mode transformation, I get worried because of the way the neck tabs in. That said, I do prefer the look of the gorilla mode, mostly because I like some of the little touches, like covering the robot face, that I didn't expect them to do. Plus, I love how the gorilla mode has almost as much articulation as a Prime Wars figure :lol:
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045359)
Posted by bodrock on November 24th, 2019 @ 12:37pm CST
Apeface’s ape mode sounds great! Always wanted more articulation in the figure.

I may wait to hunt Rung and the Micromasters down, but I hope I see them soon!

Astrotrain’s articulation & accessories are great, as expected. I had a lot of fun with his transformations too.
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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045360)
Posted by Cobotron on November 24th, 2019 @ 2:55pm CST
Rad pics, Bod!! :APPLAUSE: ;)^
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045371)
Posted by bodrock on November 24th, 2019 @ 8:18pm CST
Thanks Cobo! I took a lot of pics of Astrotrain — best update ever ;)
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045372)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 24th, 2019 @ 8:34pm CST
Finally found a cool way to mount Fracas

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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045477)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 26th, 2019 @ 8:08pm CST
ended up messing around with siege voyager Prime and some of his other figures, and it's pretty cool how different and yet how similar these all can be.

SS Prime is cooler cause Steampunk look, classics is the most fun, PotP has the best head, and Siege is the best all around. Still a fantastic voyager

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Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045495)
Posted by william-james88 on November 26th, 2019 @ 10:25pm CST
Siege is my favourite Prime. But I do like classics just because it was a slightly different take on the truck and the transformation is simple fun. Plus I have the toy accurate one with those beautiful chromed legs.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045510)
Posted by Inactive_____ on November 27th, 2019 @ 7:13am CST
SURPRISE DOUBLE FEATURE! :michaelbay:

Seeing as I've managed to acquire a couple Siegekers, I thought I'd give my thoughts on the mold overall.

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Honestly, I feel like the seeker mold may well actually be my dark horse of the Siege line. I was thoroughly underwhelmed by it at first, but it's so much better in hand. If Galaxy Prime didn't exist, it may well be my favourite Siege mold. (Granted, I haven't dipped too thoroughly into Siege as a whole so take that as you will.)

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Starscream is probably the weaker of the two. Aside from having the wrong head, he doesn't wear the mold as well imo. He's very grey, like, turn him around and he could blend in with a concrete wall.

I must have a later run of the figure, as he has the G1 Decepticon symbols, and his chest rarely pops off.

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Thundercracker is great. The blue is fantastic, and really makes the mold pop. The details are clearer and even the battle damage looks nicer. Again, he had the wrong head but, I can fix that if I'm feeling brave.

AdDiTionAl SiEge tHouGhTs

Now that Siege is coming to a close, I wanna kinda reflect on the line as a whole. Siege was pretty good. There was definitely a marked step up in quality from the latter half of Prime Wars. Plastic feels nicer, Figures feel denser, and there have been some fun little engineering tricks that have been worked in. Obviously, the TF team has a higher budget to play with now. If the concessions made in TR and POTP were made so we could get the current standard then I'm happy.

However, If I were to offer one criticism, then it would be this. Siege, I feel, lacked a unified aesthetic. And what I mean by that is that while Siege has some clear design cues, the way and amount they were actually used varies from figure to figure. For example, I feel like say, the Seekers, and like, Prowl, you can conceivably believe from different lines. I'm not surprised to hear that they're the battle damage for Earthrise, as I feel like they never fully committed to it any way. Kind of a shame too, as I feel like using the grittier, more battle worn look might have helped out some of the blander molds like Prowl, Red Alert or Megatron.

In any case, I'm glad Siege happened, and I'm interested in what Earthrise has in store.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045522)
Posted by adamage1 on November 27th, 2019 @ 10:43am CST
The head swap for Thundercracker and Starscream is actually a piece of cake. With no glue on either head, it’s just a matter of removing the screw and separating the front and back halves. A small flathead screwdriver can help with this, using small twisting motions to pry them apart. If you’re careful, you can get them both apart without too much effort or scratch marks. I think I got both mine apart with just my fingernails. Just be careful with the light-pipe plastic as translucent plastic tends to be weaker.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045524)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 27th, 2019 @ 11:59am CST
The battle damage is still in Earthrise to an extent
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045527)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 27th, 2019 @ 12:22pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:The battle damage is still in Earthrise to an extent
Isn't just the dirt marks on Hoist, though?
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045544)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 27th, 2019 @ 6:02pm CST
I finally got Omega today and he's a great figure. Hips sound a bit too heavy, but otherwise he's perfect. Definitely worth picking up in my opinion
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045552)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 27th, 2019 @ 8:55pm CST
Gemstonegemini wrote:AdDiTionAl SiEge tHouGhTs

Now that Siege is coming to a close, I wanna kinda reflect on the line as a whole. Siege was pretty good. There was definitely a marked step up in quality from the latter half of Prime Wars. Plastic feels nicer, Figures feel denser, and there have been some fun little engineering tricks that have been worked in. Obviously, the TF team has a higher budget to play with now. If the concessions made in TR and POTP were made so we could get the current standard then I'm happy.

However, If I were to offer one criticism, then it would be this. Siege, I feel, lacked a unified aesthetic. And what I mean by that is that while Siege has some clear design cues, the way and amount they were actually used varies from figure to figure. For example, I feel like say, the Seekers, and like, Prowl, you can conceivably believe from different lines. I'm not surprised to hear that they're the battle damage for Earthrise, as I feel like they never fully committed to it any way. Kind of a shame too, as I feel like using the grittier, more battle worn look might have helped out some of the blander molds like Prowl, Red Alert or Megatron.

In any case, I'm glad Siege happened, and I'm interested in what Earthrise has in store.

I think this is a great idea -- here at the end of the year, at the end of the line, it's a good opportunity to take stock and review the line as a whole. Your input is valuable, too. And while I agree that there was a wide range of aesthetic variety among individual toys, especially with the battle damage, I felt that Siege had a very consistent aesthetic overall. In fact, it was one of my favorite parts of the series.

Looking back at Prime Wars, I think that the play features and their engineering considerations drove the design and the art style. While Siege is very much "G1+," I think they managed to take minor liberties to liven it up and help it stand apart from Masterpiece. This is most evident with the Cybertronian Decepticons, covered in greebles and paint splatters, but Autobots like Hound, Optimus, Ironhide, and Impactor also fit. The Sideswipe and Prowl molds were much cleaner by comparison, but I felt like they still belong. With those molds in particular, it does seem like they may have been looking ahead to Earthrise to ensure that the cartoon Autobots compare well across the WfC lines.

When it was announced, I thought that Fire Blasts would be my favorite part. While I did enjoy them, I haven't taken the time to stage battles like I thought I would. Instead, my favorite part of the line as a whole is the simplicity of most transformations. Siege Sideswipe is probably my favorite figure to transform in the history of the franchise: it's simple, intuitive, and supports the articulation of the figure. Both modes look amazing. I don't have a problem with Prowl's feet, and I quickly got over the Starscream backpack concern. I have seven different Seekers, and I still have as much fun transforming them as the first time. I'm going to treat Springer as an exception because I think they pulled off the look of all three modes, and taking him out of the equation, I think I enjoy every toy.

Prime Wars got me back into TF toys, but Siege turned me into a superfan.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045558)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 28th, 2019 @ 1:12am CST
If you enjoyed the look of Springer's modes then why didn't you enjoy him?
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045560)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 28th, 2019 @ 1:33am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:If you enjoyed the look of Springer's modes then why didn't you enjoy him?

I hate his transformation. It isn't intuitive, it isn't fun, there are a couple of places where it seems to lock in too tight. I don't have much display space at the moment, so most of my play is just transforming a handful of characters back and forth, maybe find a few poses. I changed him into each alt-mide exactly once, then back into a robot. He'll probably stay that way most of the time. I don't want a statue, I want a toy. Complex transformations are the main reason I stopped buying Masterpiece figures.

Ultimately, I don't know how they could have done him better, though. I'm really impressed with how they made it as toon-accurate in all modes as they did. I swapped out the T30 figure with no regrets. I think it's the best toy that it could have been, but it's still one of my least favorite across the line.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045563)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 28th, 2019 @ 5:13am CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:Ultimately, I don't know how they could have done him better, though. I'm really impressed with how they made it as toon-accurate in all modes as they did. I swapped out the T30 figure with no regrets. I think it's the best toy that it could have been, but it's still one of my least favorite across the line.


I find his lack of toon accuracy spoils the figure and he kind of ends up looking a bit too blocky in the wrong areas. I think I've liked just about every other Springer more (even the ones with only 2 modes and repaints). Hoping he gets a redo at some point but it will be many years if ever. Maybe an upscaled mechfans assault soldier to voyager size with a few more bits that fold away/into position would be a lot better.

Siege faves for me would be refraktor toy color (cartoon one loses out for not having the accessories), Brunt, Skytread (despite it not being anywhere close to the efforts of POTP Battletrap :( ) and the weaponisers -mainly from being characters I wanted than the ability to give other figures that sometimes suffer from having holes where they shouldn't the ugliest boots.

Siege dislikes would be all the autobot cars, Optimus (voyager and leader) and Springer -which is the only one I spent money on and thought I would like.

If Titans Return hadn't got me back into buying non MP transformers I'm not sure Siege would have. Price hikes and less innovation isn't a great combo.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045564)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 28th, 2019 @ 5:34am CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:If you enjoyed the look of Springer's modes then why didn't you enjoy him?

I hate his transformation. It isn't intuitive, it isn't fun, there are a couple of places where it seems to lock in too tight. I don't have much display space at the moment, so most of my play is just transforming a handful of characters back and forth, maybe find a few poses. I changed him into each alt-mide exactly once, then back into a robot. He'll probably stay that way most of the time. I don't want a statue, I want a toy. Complex transformations are the main reason I stopped buying Masterpiece figures.

Ultimately, I don't know how they could have done him better, though. I'm really impressed with how they made it as toon-accurate in all modes as they did. I swapped out the T30 figure with no regrets. I think it's the best toy that it could have been, but it's still one of my least favorite across the line.

Thank you for sharing your reasoning :) I still prefer T30 Springer myself but ultimately I appreciate the choice it gives everyone, even though myself, I despair with toon accuracy, preferring new takes. Though on saying that I can never resist fun looking toys, regardless of what style they're going with!
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045599)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 29th, 2019 @ 2:31am CST
I don't care for Springer's transformation either, even though I like his modes too. And I decided to swing by my Walmart tonight after the black Friday craziness died down, and I found one single Spinister on the peg so I picked him up. He's a pretty sharp figure, I haven't really messed with him much, but I like him. I got Apeface last week, I still need Omega Supreme, who will most likely be my Christmas present to myself.
Re: Siege Astrotrain and Final Siege Deluxes and Micromasters Found in US and other Countries (2045639)
Posted by bacem on November 30th, 2019 @ 10:43am CST
Didn't planned on getting jetfire, but black friday sale happened for the first time in my country, for some reason.so i ended up with one. Trying to do different configuration than the official ones, i think this is pretty neat.

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