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Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder!

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Thursday, December 8th, 2011 9:10PM CST

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Shout! Factory has now posted advanced orders for the massive Japanese Collection Box Set. This 13 DVD set includes the complete series of Headmasters, Super-God MasterForce and Victory! Each with their original Japanese audio tracks, English subtitles, and an art gallery.

Shout! Factory wrote:TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION – Headmasters -- Optimus Prime lives again, the energy of the Matrix has been released and peace reigns on Cybertron . . . but all that is about to change with the startling arrival of the newest breed of TRANSFORMERS warriors.

TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION – Super-God Masterforce -- Following their victory over the DESTRONS (a/k/a DECEPTICONS) at the end of Headmasters, the CYBERTRONS (AUTOBOTS) depart Earth, leaving behind only a small group to protect the planet from any future menace. But when the powerful DESTRONS return to an unsuspecting planet, the CYBERTRONS must come out of hiding to defend their human friends once again — only this time they’ll be unable to do it on their own!

TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION – Victory -- Victory is the third and final installment of this Japanese trilogy— introduces four new factions to the TRANSFORMERS universe. Each group comes equipped with its own unique power and the ability to combine to form much larger, more powerful TRANSFORMERS, making each and every battle even more epic!


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Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321046)
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 8th, 2011 @ 9:24pm CST
That's great, but when are Masterforce and Victory going to be available individually?
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Posted by SW's SilverHammer on December 8th, 2011 @ 9:37pm CST
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Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321060)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 8th, 2011 @ 9:50pm CST
Finally!

Though it's a bittersweet feeling, I've been waiting for this for a while.

I kind of find it a bit hypocritical that they keep using "Cybertron" and "Destron" on the packaging when the subs use "Autobot" and "Decepticon".

I still wanna know the retail release date (not the online release date, which we know is 1/10/2012).
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321063)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 8th, 2011 @ 10:09pm CST
I was starting to think this got canceled. Not a big fan of having to read TV but I've always wanted to see how G1 played out in Japan.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321074)
Posted by GetRightRobot on December 8th, 2011 @ 10:32pm CST
Darth Bombshell wrote:That's great, but when are Masterforce and Victory going to be available individually?



I don't know man, since this set was announced, I have not heard anything about individual releases. I have a copy (DVD) of the Masterforce series with the UK english dub, and the new Headmasters box set. Victory is causing a problem for me too.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321094)
Posted by Joetx on December 9th, 2011 @ 12:27am CST
Darth Bombshell wrote:That's great, but when are Masterforce and Victory going to be available individually?


No kidding. Going by the price of Headmasters alone, you'd think it would be less expensive to get them individually rather than the whole set.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321138)
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 9th, 2011 @ 7:50am CST
GetRightRobot wrote:I don't know man, since this set was announced, I have not heard anything about individual releases.


According to this, it was supposed to have been released this week, but unless the stores near me didn't stock it, it wasn't. It could have gotten held back when this did, but I never heard about it.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321159)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 9:20am CST
Darth Bombshell wrote:
GetRightRobot wrote:I don't know man, since this set was announced, I have not heard anything about individual releases.


According to this, it was supposed to have been released this week, but unless the stores near me didn't stock it, it wasn't. It could have gotten held back when this did, but I never heard about it.
Shortly after that was posted, that statement was retracted (though this was mostly for the Complete Collection, but since there's been no such announcement for Masterforce I guess it's safe to assume the same for it).
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321183)
Posted by kirbenvost on December 9th, 2011 @ 10:52am CST
Man, so many expensive things coming out this time of year. I really want this. Is it going to be exclusive to their store?
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321196)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 11:27am CST
What the-?!! :shock:

Look at the list of DVD contents near the bottom of the page. There's a ton of typos and other weirdness all over!

These episode titles seem to have been taken from a bunch of sources such as the Metrodome/Madman DVDs, TV-Nihon's fansubs, and TFWiki's episode lists.

"The Master Sword Is In Danger" is missing the word "Sword"

Goshooter's name in Masterforce episode 6 is parsed "Go Shooter".

The term "Godmaster" is consistently used when Hasbro said that they would be using "Powermaster" instead.

"A Fierce Battle!! The Autobots Are In Trouble" mispells "Fierce" as "Pierce".

"Expose The Decepticons’ Dark Trap" is missing the word "Trap".

"The Underground City Of Terror" should be written as "Big City - Underground Terror" since the city itself is neither underground nor terrible.

All six clip show episodes (minus the fourth one) that were broadcast in Japan are listed here, in spite of them not being included in the Metrodome and Madman DVDs (because they aren't necessary).

Though, if they were gonna include these, why leave out the fourth? If it was done on purpose, why not leave them all out?

"Assemble! Combiner Warriors" is written as "Transformer Warriors Assembled".

"The Strongest! Victory Saber" is missing its first half, reading as only "Victory Saber".



:???: 8-} >:oP :KREMZEEK: :-B :o) 8-| :-s :GHOST: :HEADHURTS: :HEADHURTS: :HEADHURTS:
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321203)
Posted by unicron nemesis on December 9th, 2011 @ 11:35am CST
If only they ship outside US...darn...
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321208)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 11:47am CST
unicron nemesis wrote:If only they ship outside US...darn...
Where you at? Both Europe and Australia got these series on DVD first. ;)
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321213)
Posted by El Duque on December 9th, 2011 @ 12:04pm CST


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For Immediate Release



The Wait is Over! Fans Can Pre-Order Now to

Own This Entire Collection on DVD!



TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION

featuring

HEADMASTERS, SUPER-GOD MASTERFORCE, and VICTORY

in a collectible 13-dvd box set



SHIPS WEEK OF JANUARY 2, 2012

ONLY FROM SHOUT! FACTORY’S OFFICIAL ONLINE STORE SHOUTFACTORYSTORE.COM



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Early happy New Year 2012! Fans and collectors can finally bring home TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION DVD box set from Shout! Factory, in collaboration with Hasbro. This is the rare Japanese trilogy that followed the popular “Generation 1” animated series. Available for the first time in North America, this 13-DVD box set is fully loaded with over 42 hours of entertainment, including all episodes that originally aired from the three Japanese series — Headmasters, Super-God Masterforce and Victory — each with their original Japanese audio tracks, English subtitles, and an art gallery. TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION DVD box set finally available exclusively at Shout! Factory’s official online store ShoutFactoryStore.com and shipping to customers beginning January 2, 2012. Pre-order begins now!

Pre-order Link: http://www.shoutfactorystore.com/prod.aspx?pfid=5257431





Synopsis

TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION – Headmasters

Optimus Prime lives again, the energy of the Matrix has been released and peace reigns on Cybertron . . . but all that is about to change with the startling arrival of the newest breed of Transformers warriors



TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION – Super-God Masterforce

Following their victory over the DESTRONS (a/k/a DECEPTICONS) at the end of Headmasters, the CYBERTRONS (AUTOBOTS) depart Earth, leaving behind only a small group to protect the planet from any future menace. But when the powerful DESTRONS return to an unsuspecting planet, the CYBERTRONS must come out of hiding to defend their human friends once again — only this time they’ll be unable to do it on their own!


TRANSFORMERS: THE JAPANESE COLLECTION – Victory

Victory is the third and final installment of this Japanese trilogy— introduces four new factions to the TRANSFORMERS universe. Each group comes equipped with its own unique power and the ability to combine to form much larger, more powerful TRANSFORMERS, making each and every battle even more epic!



About Hasbro

Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS) is a branded play company providing children and families around the world with a wide range of immersive entertainment offerings based on the Company’s world-class brand portfolio. From toys and games, to television programming, motion pictures, video games and a comprehensive licensing program, Hasbro strives to delight its customers through the strategic leveraging of well-known and beloved brands such as THE TRANSFORMERS, LITTLEST PET SHOP, NERF, PLAYSKOOL, MY LITTLE PONY, G.I. JOE, MAGIC: THE GATHERING and MONOPOLY. The Hub, Hasbro’s multiplatform joint venture with Discovery Communications (NASDAQ: DISCA, DISCB, DISCK) launched on October 10, 2010. The online home of The Hub is http://www.hubworld.com. The Hub logo and name are trademarks of Hub Television Networks, LLC. All rights reserved.



Come see how we inspire play through our brands at http://www.hasbro.com. © 2011 Hasbro, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



About Shout! Factory

Shout! Factory is a diversified entertainment company devoted to producing, uncovering and revitalizing the very best of pop culture. Founders Richard Foos, Bob Emmer and Garson Foos have spent their careers sharing their music, television and film faves with discerning consumers the world over. Shout! Factory’s DVD offerings serve up classic, contemporary and cult TV series, riveting sports programs, live music, animation and documentaries in lavish packages crammed with extras. The company’s audio catalogue boasts GRAMMY®-nominated boxed sets, new releases from storied artists, lovingly assembled album reissues and indispensable “best of” compilations. These riches are the result of a creative acquisitions mandate that has established the company as a hotbed of cultural preservation and commercial reinvention. Shout! Factory is based in Santa Monica, California. For more on Shout! Factory, visit shoutfactory.com.



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Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321220)
Posted by unicron nemesis on December 9th, 2011 @ 12:16pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
unicron nemesis wrote:If only they ship outside US...darn...
Where you at? Both Europe and Australia got these series on DVD first. ;)


Neither of these places I'm afraid. I'm in Singapore, S.E Asia.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321228)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 12:55pm CST
unicron nemesis wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
unicron nemesis wrote:If only they ship outside US...darn...
Where you at? Both Europe and Australia got these series on DVD first. ;)


Neither of these places I'm afraid. I'm in Singapore, S.E Asia.
Heh heh. Funny you mention that, since Singapore was one of the places that got these shows broadcasted in terrible English. ;)
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321237)
Posted by kirbenvost on December 9th, 2011 @ 1:39pm CST
Great, so it's exclusive to Shout Factory's store, and they only ship to the US. F U, Shout Factory, F U. :roll:
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321250)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 2:07pm CST
kirbenvost wrote:Great, so it's exclusive to Shout Factory's store, and they only ship to the US. F U, Shout Factory, F U. :roll:
Just wait till it comes to retail. Sheesh.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321292)
Posted by kirbenvost on December 9th, 2011 @ 3:57pm CST
I thought exclusive to their store meant it's not coming out at retail at all.

There's actually no place to buy these locally for me now, since our HMV locations are all going out of business, and I doubt Best Buy/Future shop would stock something so obscure... Well, I'd gladly buy it on Amazon too, so if it's not *only* available from Shout Factory, I don't have to worry.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321295)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 4:06pm CST
kirbenvost wrote:I thought exclusive to their store meant it's not coming out at retail at all.

There's actually no place to buy these locally for me now, since our HMV locations are all going out of business, and I doubt Best Buy/Future shop would stock something so obscure... Well, I'd gladly buy it on Amazon too, so if it's not *only* available from Shout Factory, I don't have to worry.
The Beast Wars complete set started off as an exclusive to their site, yet it came out to retail many months later.

IIRC, Darth Bombshell told me that this set will also be coming to retail much later on as well.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321301)
Posted by kirbenvost on December 9th, 2011 @ 4:54pm CST
Alright, in that case I can easily wait. Thanks!
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321323)
Posted by Darth Bombshell on December 9th, 2011 @ 6:28pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Shortly after that was posted, that statement was retracted (though this was mostly for the Complete Collection, but since there's been no such announcement for Masterforce I guess it's safe to assume the same for it).


I know it was retracted. It said so in that post. It didn't specify, however, whether or not it was for both of just the Complete Collection only, so I just assumed it was for the Complete Collection only.

Sabrblade wrote:IIRC, Darth Bombshell told me that this set will also be coming to retail much later on as well.


Yes, the insert that came with the Headmasters set said that this would be released in retail. (It did say "coming soon", so no set date was announced.) In any case, since the complete sets of G1 Transformers, GI Joe, Beast Wars, Jem and Reebot were made available shortly after their exclusive period, it's reasonable to assume it will, too.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321402)
Posted by cotss2012 on December 9th, 2011 @ 10:36pm CST
The box design is amazingly well-coordinated with their G1 and Beast Wars sets. Will they be putting out similar sets for Beast Machines and Animated?
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321406)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 10:45pm CST
cotss2012 wrote:The box design is amazingly well-coordinated with their G1 and Beast Wars sets. Will they be putting out similar sets for Beast Machines and Animated?
Beast Machines, I could see. Animated, however, is doubtful, since that series is own by both Hasbro and Cartoon Network, who broke ties with each other after Animated ended, splitting the rights between them. This is why season 3 has yet to be released on DVD.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321409)
Posted by cotss2012 on December 9th, 2011 @ 10:48pm CST
How about RID/Armadaverse?
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321410)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 10:51pm CST
cotss2012 wrote:How about RID/Armadaverse?
RiD's ownership is also a mess, since it was dubbed by Saban, who was bought by Disney, but then Saban returned and took back only Power Rangers from Disney, so now Disney still owns RiD. >:oP

Unicron Trilogy is a maybe, but they came out on DVD not too long ago.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321417)
Posted by Galvatron X on December 9th, 2011 @ 11:24pm CST
I probably shouldn't drink and order DVDs, but I just ordered this set!


I can't wait; these are all new to me. I haven't seen any of these episodes except for a Headmaster episode or two.

These better be good - I hold you guys responsible! :lol:
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321429)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2011 @ 11:54pm CST
Galvatron X wrote:I probably shouldn't drink and order DVDs, but I just ordered this set!


I can't wait; these are all new to me. I haven't seen any of these episodes except for a Headmaster episode or two.

These better be good - I hold you guys responsible! :lol:
Keep an open mind and you may enjoy them. Don't have too high expectations as these are from the 1980s, after all.

For me personally, I enjoyed all three. I liked The Headmasters a little better than G1, Masterforce I LOVED so much, and Victory I liked about the same as G1. But, these are but my own opinions, as many have differing one from mine.

The Headmasters often gets a lot of flak from fans calling it lousy and awful, but then one would have to say the same about G1 since it's about the same quality (except that The Headmasters has an actual overarching story and some drama elements that Westerners wouldn't see in a TF cartoon until Beast Wars).

Masterforce was, and probably is, the most drastically different of any TF series in that it was very human centric. However, once you watch it, you realize that that's what makes it so good. These humans are probably the best human characters of any TF series. Even the most annoying ones were useful and competent. But don't think that they take away the spotlight from the bots. In fact, the special relationship between the humans and the bots in this series is so unique that it genuinely enhances the series itself.Let's just say that this show had a lot of character put into it. :D

Victory is the one that "feels" the most like G1 again (despite The Headmasters being direct continuation of G1 seasons 3), in that its stories were episodic and mostly standalone for a while, much like the Saturday morning cartoon feel of the G1 cartoon. Though, it's second half picks things up to make the stakes higher and the story better.

Hope this helps. ;)
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321431)
Posted by cotss2012 on December 9th, 2011 @ 11:56pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:How about RID/Armadaverse?
RiD's ownership is also a mess, since it was dubbed by Saban, who was bought by Disney, but then Saban returned and took back only Power Rangers from Disney, so now Disney still owns RiD. >:oP


Speaking of which... when are we gonna get some Power Rangers on DVD, and not just the movies and the collection of ten random episodes from the first ten years? Although I don't consider anything past Zordon's death to be canon, I have to admit that Time Force was pretty decent, and I've heard good things about RPM.

Edit: Not that I have ever watched Power Rangers, or ever would... [-(

Sabrblade wrote:Unicron Trilogy is a maybe, but they came out on DVD not too long ago.


Only Armada (at least in seasonal form), and only by Rhino.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321436)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2011 @ 12:06am CST
cotss2012 wrote:Speaking of which... when are we gonna get some Power Rangers on DVD, and not just the movies and the collection of ten random episodes from the first ten years? Although I don't consider anything past Zordon's death to be canon, I have to admit that Time Force was pretty decent, and I've heard good things about RPM.

Edit: Not that I have ever watched Power Rangers, or ever would... [-(
Well, all 19 seasons are on Netflix. ;)

cotss2012 wrote:Only Armada (at least in seasonal form), and only by Rhino.
:WHISTLE:
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Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321437)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 10th, 2011 @ 12:06am CST
cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:How about RID/Armadaverse?
RiD's ownership is also a mess, since it was dubbed by Saban, who was bought by Disney, but then Saban returned and took back only Power Rangers from Disney, so now Disney still owns RiD. >:oP


Speaking of which... when are we gonna get some Power Rangers on DVD, and not just the movies and the collection of ten random episodes from the first ten years? Although I don't consider anything past Zordon's death to be canon, I have to admit that Time Force was pretty decent, and I've heard good things about RPM.

Edit: Not that I have ever watched Power Rangers, or ever would... [-(

Sabrblade wrote:Unicron Trilogy is a maybe, but they came out on DVD not too long ago.


Only Armada (at least in seasonal form), and only by Rhino.


Nope all three parts of the Unicron trilogy were released.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321440)
Posted by Galvatron X on December 10th, 2011 @ 12:13am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Hope this helps. ;)


Yes, that definitely does. Thanks, man!



On a slightly-related note - I'm looking forward to seeing these in their native Japanese format (Japanese with English subtitles). I want to hear them as they were originally aired!
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321442)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2011 @ 12:18am CST
Galvatron X wrote:On a slightly-related note - I'm looking forward to seeing these in their native Japanese format (Japanese with English subtitles). I want to hear them as they they were originally aired!
Good man. Japanese with subs are the best, no, the only way to get the full experience of these Japanese-original creations.

Not to mention how there's no English voice track on these anyway, so.. yeah. ;)

And even if there was it would be either that horrible Omni Productions dub or a fandub, niehter of which can fully capture the spirit of the original. :-B
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321471)
Posted by cotss2012 on December 10th, 2011 @ 1:54am CST
Sabrblade wrote: :WHISTLE:
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I've always wondered what those were. Bootlegs? Foreign releases? No store that I'm aware of has ever actually had those in stock.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321496)
Posted by PowerEncarnate on December 10th, 2011 @ 3:46am CST
this would be interesting if they had it with English dialogue in addition to the original Japanese with subtitles...i mean really how hard would it be to dub it?
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321501)
Posted by cotss2012 on December 10th, 2011 @ 4:03am CST
MechHaven wrote:this would be interesting if they had it with English dialogue in addition to the original Japanese with subtitles...i mean really how hard would it be to dub it?


Considering that English audiences would demand that the original voice actors reprise their roles, and that most of the original voice actors have been out of touch for the past 27 years (except Susan Blu, Judd Nelson, and a few others who reprised their roles for Animated), doing a PROPER dub could be insanely hard. Also, was Ultra Magnus in any of those series? I only ask because Robert Stack is kinda dead.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321508)
Posted by PowerEncarnate on December 10th, 2011 @ 4:39am CST
cotss2012 wrote:
MechHaven wrote:this would be interesting if they had it with English dialogue in addition to the original Japanese with subtitles...i mean really how hard would it be to dub it?


Considering that English audiences would demand that the original voice actors reprise their roles, and that most of the original voice actors have been out of touch for the past 27 years (except Susan Blu, Judd Nelson, and a few others who reprised their roles for Animated), doing a PROPER dub could be insanely hard. Also, was Ultra Magnus in any of those series? I only ask because Robert Stack is kinda dead.


you make a good point...but its an easy pass for me because my family are not foreign language friendly and as such i would never get to watch it. i cant be the only one out there in this boat either
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321630)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 10th, 2011 @ 2:18pm CST
MechHaven wrote:this would be interesting if they had it with English dialogue in addition to the original Japanese with subtitles...i mean really how hard would it be to dub it?


Robert Stack didn't do Ultra Magnus in the series. It wouldn't be cost effective to do a new English dub as it's doubtful the sales would justify it. It has been said several times by shout and Hasbro that there's no way they could include the Star dubs due to copyright and language.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321637)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2011 @ 2:53pm CST
cotss2012 wrote:I've always wondered what those were. Bootlegs? Foreign releases? No store that I'm aware of has ever actually had those in stock.
What country are you in? Those were the official releases made by Paramount in 2008. I bought both from Target back when they were for sale.

MechHaven wrote:this would be interesting if they had it with English dialogue in addition to the original Japanese with subtitles...i mean really how hard would it be to dub it?
MUCH harder than you think.

For one, there do exist English dubs of these series, but they were dubbed in Malaysia and are beyond terrible, getting almost everyone's names wrong and using actors who had zero talent with little to no idea what they were doing with these series.

Giving them a proper dub wouldn't be feasible either because it would cost too much to do. It would be unprofitable. Not to mention how most would want the original voice cast to come back, when veteran voice actors are much more expensive than they were 20 years ago, which is why you don't see them doing much mainstream work anymore (no one can afford them).

Watching them in Japanese with English subs is the best way to see them.

MechHaven wrote:you make a good point...but its an easy pass for me because my family are not foreign language friendly and as such i would never get to watch it. i cant be the only one out there in this boat either
Why should that matter? They don't have to watch them with you. You can watch them on your own. Besides, it's not like it's a bad thing to watch something in a foreign language. Don't tell me they're against anything that isn't in English.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321662)
Posted by cotss2012 on December 10th, 2011 @ 4:44pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:What country are you in?


The People's Soviet Socialist Republic of California. :-(
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321673)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2011 @ 4:59pm CST
cotss2012 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:What country are you in?


The People's Soviet Socialist Republic of California. :-(
Never heard of it. :lol:
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321682)
Posted by cotss2012 on December 10th, 2011 @ 5:21pm CST
Really? I'm pretty sure that it's the same country where Michael Bay lives.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321708)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2011 @ 6:04pm CST
cotss2012 wrote:Really? I'm pretty sure that it's the same country where Michael Bay lives.
>:oP Read the :lol: smiley.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321833)
Posted by Julie85 on December 10th, 2011 @ 10:02pm CST
Aren't they going to release individual sets for Victory and Masterforce? This is really unfair to those of us who already bought Headmasters.
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1321834)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2011 @ 10:05pm CST
Julie85 wrote:Aren't they going to release individual sets for Victory and Masterforce? This is really unfair to those of us who already bought Headmasters.
Yes. They did this with G1 and Beast Wars too (releasing the complete set before finishing up the individual season sets, that is).
Re: Shout! Factory Transformers: The Japanese Collection up for preorder! (1322598)
Posted by PowerEncarnate on December 12th, 2011 @ 9:47pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:I've always wondered what those were. Bootlegs? Foreign releases? No store that I'm aware of has ever actually had those in stock.
What country are you in? Those were the official releases made by Paramount in 2008. I bought both from Target back when they were for sale.

MechHaven wrote:this would be interesting if they had it with English dialogue in addition to the original Japanese with subtitles...i mean really how hard would it be to dub it?
MUCH harder than you think.

For one, there do exist English dubs of these series, but they were dubbed in Malaysia and are beyond terrible, getting almost everyone's names wrong and using actors who had zero talent with little to no idea what they were doing with these series.

Giving them a proper dub wouldn't be feasible either because it would cost too much to do. It would be unprofitable. Not to mention how most would want the original voice cast to come back, when veteran voice actors are much more expensive than they were 20 years ago, which is why you don't see them doing much mainstream work anymore (no one can afford them).

Watching them in Japanese with English subs is the best way to see them.

MechHaven wrote:you make a good point...but its an easy pass for me because my family are not foreign language friendly and as such i would never get to watch it. i cant be the only one out there in this boat either
Why should that matter? They don't have to watch them with you. You can watch them on your own. Besides, it's not like it's a bad thing to watch something in a foreign language. Don't tell me they're against anything that isn't in English.


not against, just not understanding. and i would think that an english dialogue version that was actually decent would see a much larger more mainstream release....i do not expect to see this set or any part of it in my local walmart. from a marketing standpoint, getting any item in major retailers stock increases the chances of larger profit. i really do not care if they could get the original g1 cast or not but i hate having to watch a show 3 times(1: read the dialogue, 2: watch the action, 3: put them together.) just to get all of it, and most people i know feel the same way...just seems to me that it would sell faster and more copies if they had english dub
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MechHaven wrote:not against, just not understanding.
That's what the subtitles are for. ;)

Plus, the more you watch, the more likely you might be to pick up the meanings of some Japanese words or phrases. I myself watched enough subbed anime to get an understanding of a few Japanese words/phrases, so it's cool when I can catch what they're saying ont he spot. 8)

MechHaven wrote:and i would think that an english dialogue version that was actually decent would see a much larger more mainstream release....i do not expect to see this set or any part of it in my local walmart. from a marketing standpoint, getting any item in major retailers stock increases the chances of larger profit.
The current release of just The Headmasters series has been made available at all major retail chains (Wal-Mart, Target, Toys 'R' Us, Best Buy, Kmart, etc.). A lack of English hasn't stopped it from reaching mainstream markets, so it shouldn't stop this one either.

MechHaven wrote:i really do not care if they could get the original g1 cast or not but i hate having to watch a show 3 times(1: read the dialogue, 2: watch the action, 3: put them together.) just to get all of it, and most people i know feel the same way...
Three times? Dude, what action is there on the screen when they're speaking? Mouth movement? That's not much to look at. Most action goes unsubbed since it mostly consists of grunting, groaning, yelling, or other combat related noises. Exposition and action are almost always kept apart. And if someone does decide to speak during the action parts, it's usually during a frame in which there is little happening on screen for that moment. Or it's a short phrase like "Take this!", "Die!", or an attack's name called out in English (yes, the Japanese like slip English phrases into their dialogue).

It isn't a difficult feat to watch and read the screen at the same time, as there's usually a balance made between spoken dialogue and heavy action.

MechHaven wrote:just seems to me that it would sell faster and more copies if they had english dub
Well, maybe, but it just wasn't feasible, as they would have had to spend more money to dub it than what they had to just sub it and put it on DVD.

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