SDCC 2022 Legacy Reveals Include TM2 Megatron, Pointblank, Skullgrin and More

Pointblank is looking good, also is alpha trion a sweep/scourge retool?

ZeroWolf wrote:Pointblank is looking good, also is alpha trion a sweep/scourge retool?

Yes, he is. What little can be seen of Transmetal 2 Megatron looks pretty promising! Can't wait for proper pictures of him. I might have to start thinking of a 3D printable Beast Machines harness.

Seems Weird to jump straight to Transmetal 2 Megatron after getting all the S1 beast wars characters out.

My thoughts on the new Legacy revals:

> Okay, it may sound weird, but I laughed for a solid minute when I saw Pointblank's name was changed to "Autobot Blanker", because I have a friend who goes by the nickname "Blanca", but because of our region's dialect everyone pronounces it as "Blanker". She knows nothing about Transformers, she's only seen the first Michael Bay movie and her favourite Transformer is Frenzy, so I feel as if I need to tell her there is now a Transformer named Blanker, knowing damn well that she won't get the joke.
> That Alpha Trion and Orion Pax set is actually really nice, I like how Alpha Trion has turned out, I don't have the Studio Series 1986 Scourge or Sweep, but it looks like he wears the mould well. I also like the Vector Sigma accessory, it's one of those things they didn't need to add but it's awesome that they did. Once this set becomes available on Hasbro Pulse UK I'll definitely buy it.
> It's good to see that Skullgrin has turned out to be a Deluxe instead of the Core mentioned in the leaks, though I do wonder what the original plan was for the "Energon Monster" from the leaks? Or if it was always supposed to be Skullgrin and "Energon Monster" was just a working name? Either way, Skullgrin being a Deluxe rather than a Core has given me renewed hope for a decent Bludgeon at some point in the future.
> Transmetal 2 Megatron isn't exactly how I pictured it in my head, but I'm still satisfied with how it looks. I never had the original Transmetal 2 Megatron when I was a kid in the 90's, and when Botcon did their own version in 2016 I wasn't able to get that either. I actually saw the Botcon Megatron for sale on one of the dealer tables at TFNation once, it was £200 and I was upset that I couldn't afford it, but now I'm glad that I didn't fork over that much cash for a Transmetal 2 Megatron, because this new version is, by my standards, absolutely fine.

That Skullgrin looks


And yes, that TM2 Megatron looks perfectly fine so far.

Megatrons a bit disapointing after that super expensive statue shown at SDCC

megatrons a maybe, it really will depend how good it is compared to the original figure and it's size.

crankcase is a maybe, g1 skids is way better than legacy skids but I get the feeling legacy crankcase will be way better than g1 crankcase.

pointblank is a definite.

Skullgrin isnt as much fun with out having a bigger figure to pretend pretender (classics skyshadow/TR skyshadow, Baynus bludgeon tank/Baynus deluxe bludgeon) but he will go with tr metalhawk and clasics thunderwingand. Guessing the battlemaster can pretend pretender with him.

Megatron looks pretty terrible in my opinion.

Alpha Trion from 86 Scourge with Pax from 86 Kup is surprisingly good-looking. Point Blank is kinda cool. No opinion on Crankcase but I LOVE Skullgrin. Not sure why, I just really dig the look of him.

~ Grim

Found this pretty good picture of the back of Transmetal 2 Megatron's packaging on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ShockblastP/status/ ... 56/photo/1

If he turns out like in those renders, he's gonna be awesome. A bit surprised he's called "Transmetal 2" in the packaging itself! And VERY puzzled by the use of the Transformers: Prime Predacon insignia as his faction symbol in said packaging.

Megatron skipped leg day....

IGN has an article up with additional better-quality images of Trion and Orion, showing the alt modes and the full extent of the retooling: https://www.ign.com/articles/new-transf ... c-con-2022

Current thoughts so far:
-Inferno, Crankcase, & Skullgrin are on my purchase list, as is the Trion/Orion set
-Pointblank is a maybe, leaning towards no (his lower legs look terribly thin and hollow in that shot, and I'm not even usually bothered by hollows on figures, guess that budget had to go to the 2-step Targetmaster though)
-Waiting for repaints from Armada Screamer and TM2 Megatron
-Dead End is a no since I'm not doing Menasor

Rtron wrote:And VERY puzzled by the use of the Transformers: Prime Predacon insignia as his faction symbol in said packaging.

It probably means that "Prime Universe Predaking" as a half-assed repaint with maybe a new head sculpt that doesn't even look like Prime Predaking is on the way soon.

Interesting to see Hasbro dust off a botcon exclusive for sdcc. Talking about that vector sigma. That version of the vector sigma ball and key looks identical to the one that was released at botcon 07 to go with the alpha trion exclusive there. The stand is different though. though I thought unicron.com made that for the show. Could be mistaken.

Embedding the Twitter pic of TM2 Megatron for all to see:



So he's a fully organic dragon this time. A Transmetal without the metal.

Immortal Starscream wrote:Interesting to see Hasbro dust off a botcon exclusive for sdcc. Talking about that vector sigma. That version of the vector sigma ball and key looks identical to the one that was released at botcon 07 to go with the alpha trion exclusive there. The stand is different though. though I thought unicron.com made that for the show. Could be mistaken.

No, you're not mistaken. Unicron.com did make the BotCon 2007 accessory. This is a new one made by Hasbro.

Is this really all they are showing at SDCC? No Studio series at all and not even altmodes and accessories for the new ones they did show? They seem to have really dropped the ball again.

Either way here is what I think:

Deluxes all look good with the standout being Skullgrin. I can't wait to pick all 4 up.

Voyagers we have seen before. Getting Starscream, skipping Inferno since it is BW.

Dragon megs looks terrible. Shame they retooled kingdom megs to make him, but does not surprise me at all. Easy pass.

The 2 pack looks great and I will be picking it up.

Really wished they showed The Fallen. Hopefully there is more to come.

LinaNui wrote:Is this really all they are showing at SDCC? No Studio series at all and not even altmodes and accessories for the new ones they did show? They seem to have really dropped the ball again.

This is only Day 1! The weekend events haven't even begun yet. Sheesh.

LinaNui wrote:Dragon megs looks terrible. Shame they retooled kingdom megs to make him,

Surely you jest.

LinaNui wrote:Is this really all they are showing at SDCC? No Studio series at all and not even altmodes and accessories for the new ones they did show? They seem to have really dropped the ball again.

Either way here is what I think:

Deluxes all look good with the standout being Skullgrin. I can't wait to pick all 4 up.

Voyagers we have seen before. Getting Starscream, skipping Inferno since it is BW.

Dragon megs looks terrible. Shame they retooled kingdom megs to make him, but does not surprise me at all. Easy pass.

The 2 pack looks great and I will be picking it up.

Really wished they showed The Fallen. Hopefully there is more to come.

Apparently they're revealing the alt modes and accessories on August 16th in a livestream. Cause that makes more sense than just showing it all off at once

Sabrblade wrote:

LinaNui wrote:Is this really all they are showing at SDCC? No Studio series at all and not even altmodes and accessories for the new ones they did show? They seem to have really dropped the ball again.

This is only Day 1! The weekend events haven't even begun yet. Sheesh.

LinaNui wrote:Dragon megs looks terrible. Shame they retooled kingdom megs to make him,

Surely you jest.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it either, looks like a new mold to me.

Sabrblade wrote:Embedding the Twitter pic of TM2 Megatron for all to see:



So he's a fully organic dragon this time. A Transmetal without the metal.

He looks pretty metallic to me, look at the top of the dragon's neck, or his knees for example. The parts they picked out in purple in general. Either way, the render looks very nice. Can't wait to see the real thing.

The images we got of the Transformers SDCC Panel weren't great and that's to be expected from pictures of a slide presentation. So, it's best to wait for proper pictures to form an opinion. And we have a better picture for that. Below is a clear image of the back of the box of Legacy Transmetal 2 Megatron which shows the official renders of the robot mode and alt mode. This is our first look at the alt mode along with the extended wingspan. We can also see that he comes with an effect part for the ultimate fire breathing dragon imagery.

Let us know if this looks better for you and if this excited you more than before.

The image comes from Shockblast Prime on Twitter.

Megatron's wings don't look organic, neither do the parts sculpted into his legs and I'm sure the tail will have a lot of mechanical details, too. I really like it, it feels more cohesive than the original and I wont miss the car mode at all since vehicle modes weren't really a TMII feature, I prefer keeping it unique to Optimal Optimus. I can easily see how they'd remake him as Beast Machines Megatron if that's an option, just swap the wings and head. It would be kinda fitting if he was repainted into Prime Predaking considering how the other Prime figures turned out.

Thoughts on the rest:
Alpha Trion & Orion Pax - Best we've had yet, they look perfect despite being retools. And since Pax is a Kup retool we can really amp up the battle damage.

Dead End - Once again loses his feet, but he's still another great looking Stunticon.

Crankcase - Kinda hard to tell from the picture, but I'm sure it's fine. Hope he has proper guns.

Pointblank/Blanker - Not sure what to make of it. He's done right, everything is where it should be, but his crotch is weirdly long and his torso isn't quite right. I'll get him since I need a Pointblank, but not sure how I feel about him, we'll see what the later pics look like.

Skullgrin - Love it, looks really cool. Appears to have the same alt mode as the original figure's inner bot, the guns on his back are the same as the ones hidden in original's hands and the tank treads can be seen on the back of his legs.



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Sabrblade wrote:
So he's a fully organic dragon this time. A Transmetal without the metal.

Those wings don't look organic one bit, I think he is still as robotic as the first one there just isn't any vac metal finish or vehicle components.

LinaNui wrote:Really wished they showed The Fallen. Hopefully there is more to come.

We newsed what you would get days ago to avoid such posts. All SDCC would reveal would be some Legacy and the first look at the Earthspark line.

william-james88 wrote:The SDCC Panel gave us reveals of Legacy wave 3 (no wave 4 for you!).

That's fine, we know Breakdown is coming. I am still curious about the whole "Energon Monster" thing. Was that just a placeholder name for Iguanas and now Skullgrin (one as a core and the other as a deluxe?)

I mean I was hoping the "izer" theme would continue in some new form, but oh well, at least we have Red Cog, and 2 Wrecker Fossilizers coming.

So another Pretender that isn't really a Pretender. Yay ... some day maybe ...

And yay, another Autobot Targetmaster! Just need Sureshot (which I'm sure could easily be re-used for Energon Cliffjumper if they wanted to)

But that Pax/Trion set...definitely want.

100% going to get that Skullgrin!

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The SDCC Panel gave us reveals of Legacy wave 3 (no wave 4 for you!).

That's fine, we know Breakdown is coming. I am still curious about the whole "Energon Monster" thing. Was that just a placeholder name for Iguanas and now Skullgrin (one as a core and the other as a deluxe?)

I mean I was hoping the "izer" theme would continue in some new form, but oh well, at least we have Red Cog, and 2 Wrecker Fossilizers coming.

Yeah, looks like a placeholder name.

Back to Megatron, AHA, now I se why the other pic was off, the shins are mistransformed. They stretch out for Dragon mode but must be compressed for bot mode. Looks awesome, I am very happy with how he turned out. I have no need for vac metal.

Alpha Trion looks great, love the headsculpt. Not really interested in Orion Pax but the figure looks good and the paintjob is nice. Wish I didn't have to pay close to $70 for a definitive Alpha Trion in my collection but I know I'll be happy once I have the guy in hand

TMII Megatron, yesssssssss. The blast effect is a nice addition, and this guy looks pretty solid. The toon accurate dragon head looks dope, and the robot head looks good too, an improvement to the shows look imo. I didn't like that they copy and pasted regular Megatron head onto dragon Megatron body in cartoon, looked lame and this looks nicer so far. I was gonna skip this guy and get the (hopefully) inevitable cryotek but I like the mold enough to get both. I need a rival for my potp Optimal Optimus anyways. Dragon mode torso looks a little messy but wings and head are great. Not sure what the "gUesS hEs nAwT tRansMetUL" complaints are about, it says it in the name. And it looks accurate to the cartoon. And the cartoon never made him look all that "transmetal" either so I don't see what the whoop is about it lol

I have no interest in "blanker" but I hope those that do are happy. Don't like the forearms though

Don't really care about crankcase either so thats money saved

Dead end looks pretty cool. Not collecting the stunticons but this one is my favorite so far

Skullgrin is an instant buy. Just beautiful. Love it. Love the design. I'm sure I'll like the alt mode. And he looks like he has tiny little legs inside his normal legs so for a second I thought he was gonna be a real Pretender haha

The SDCC panel convened, and with it a number of Transformer toy reveals. What does Death think?

Skullgrin: They got the head right, seemingly. But beyond that, it's no Pretender. I'll be interested in seeing the alt mode. Definitely looks like he'll be a tank of some kind.
Blanker: Don't recognize it, so it might be a new mold. Looks like the legs are hollow at the shins, and the pelvis seems a bit off.
Crankcase: We all knew they wouldn't leave the Skids mold alone!
Dead End: Glad to see the 3rd in the Stunticon set! It'll probably be as hard to find/order as the others...
Dragon Megatron: I was never really a fan of the Beast Wars iterations of Megatron. So I don't have the pull of nostalgia tempting me. Collectors and fans, you have nothing to fear because I won't be picking this one up. Just more for the rest of you!
Orion Pax/Alpha Trion set: The inclusion of a Vector Sigma piece is interesting, but not enough to tempt me. I guess the Studio Series Scourge mold was probably the closest they could get to Alpha Trion when they had to pick which figure to use for a remold. Hope they show pics of the alt modes soon.

In the end, only Dead End and perhaps Skullgrin are 'review-worthy' from my perspective...

Before I jump into thoughts on the SDCC reveals, just wanted to say that Target sent me emails overnight showing Metroplex and Motormaster are supposed to come in stock in 10 days to ship. Will be nice to get them cheap thanks to the deals I used.

As for the reveals:

Trion/Pax: this set looks surprisingly good, and I want Vector Sigma and the key, so I guess I'll get them. Trion will look good on the Cyberverse shelf too.

Megatron: i was not thrilled with the slide picture, but the box makes him look so much better, now I am excited for him!

Dead End: shame my favorite stunticon kinda looks funky, mostly with the leg design.

Crankcase: I must have missed everyone and their mother saying he would be a Skids partial, that surprised me. Doesn't look bad.

Skullgrin: happy he is a deluxe, but he looks off. I hope future pictures make him look better.

Pointblank: same as Skullgrin, he looks off, hopefully future pictures make him look better.

Hopefully we get a Cryotek out of it.

Loving TMII Megs. Looks awesome.

Need better pics of the rest before I can make an assessment.

"Blanker" is another "Titans Return Octane/Octone" situation wherein Hasbro is using the Japanese name instead of the English one.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

LinaNui wrote:Dragon megs looks terrible. Shame they retooled kingdom megs to make him,

Surely you jest.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it either, looks like a new mold to me.

Honestly when I was first scrolling down the screen looking at the grainy angled pic of the slide, I kind of sort of thought that the pelvis, hips and thighs were the same. Then I scrolled back up to do a double take by expanding the pic and stopped thinking that. At first glance they do look similar. They have several key designs that they share. Especially when you're looking at a bad pic. With the other pics and now product shots out, there shouldn't be any way to confuse them.

YIKES!!!

Apparently they aren't going to reveal the alt modes or accessories until August 16th, which... just... why? Genuinely baffling decision.

For the half reveals, both Alpha Trion and Orion Pax look really good, and come with some cool accessories. TM II Megatron looks great IMO, I really like the dragon head and how articulated the neck is. Hopefully he's large and has a commanding presence in hand.

As for the deluxes, these pics are to poor to make any final judgments, but at this point Skullgrin looks cool, Dead End looks OK, Pointblank looks pretty bad, and that pic of Crankcase is too low quality to really tell much of anything, except that he has Skid's legs, which is disappointing.

EDIT: What do you know, a better pic of Pointblank. It makes me feel a bit better about his arms, but man do his hips look rough.

As of now, I think I'll be picking up Skullgrin, Dead End, and Pointblank for deluxes, both voyagers, and TMII Megatron. Crankcase is a maybe

Better pics of the accessory-less bot modes (from TFW):

Tuned Agent wrote:Better pics of the accessory-less bot modes (from TFW):

There's something about Megatron's face that looks... off.

Like, very inaccurate to either the original toy or his cartoon face.

33 steps for a dragon that barely looks any different from the bot?

HOW?

Regardless, Dragon Megs looks amazing.

-Kanrabat- wrote:33 steps for a dragon that barely looks any different from the bot?

HOW?

Regardless, Dragon Megs looks amazing.

Ever transform the original toy? That thing was gymnastics incarnate.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:33 steps for a dragon that barely looks any different from the bot?

HOW?

Regardless, Dragon Megs looks amazing.

Ever transform the original toy? That thing was gymnastics incarnate.

I never had enough interests in the original to pay the absurd secondary market price. So I can't tell.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:33 steps for a dragon that barely looks any different from the bot?

HOW?

Regardless, Dragon Megs looks amazing.

Ever transform the original toy? That thing was gymnastics incarnate.

I never had enough interests in the original to pay the absurd secondary market price. So I can't tell.

"Absurd" is definitely a good word for the original toy's transformation. The whole thing turned upside-down, inside out, backwards, and all other which ways in order to get every single body part in completely different positions between from beast mode and robot mode. It was ridiculously over-complicated.

Yeah I remember getting TMII Megs and Tigerhawk brand new on the same day when they first came out. Actually all BW Ultras I got in pairs...fun times.

Starscream is looking better and better
Inferno, not so much. The arms and torso look like they just have the Ant legs all over the place

Megatron's face, yeesh. Looks like he had one too many big macs and he's got heartburn. Face barely fits in the helmet. Maybe I'll wait on cryotek after all, idk

Pointblank just looks like a mess all around now

Sabrblade wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:Better pics of the accessory-less bot modes (from TFW):

There's something about Megatron's face that looks... off.

Like, very inaccurate to either the original toy or his cartoon face.

Isn't that the carrobot Gigatron/ Robot in Disguise Megatron's face?

Sculyblast wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:Better pics of the accessory-less bot modes (from TFW):

There's something about Megatron's face that looks... off.

Like, very inaccurate to either the original toy or his cartoon face.

Isn't that the carrobot Gigatron/ Robot in Disguise Megatron's face?

...No?

Sabrblade wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:Better pics of the accessory-less bot modes (from TFW):

There's something about Megatron's face that looks... off.

Like, very inaccurate to either the original toy or his cartoon face.

It could have been worse... I think this will still be the Transformer of the year.

I await dragon Megs with impatience.

LinaNui wrote:skipping Inferno since it is BW.

I say this about any Bayverse toy.

Hasbro sent us the actual images used in the SDCC 2022 Transformers presentation so we get a clearer look at them. Compared to the images in the back of the box though, TM2 Megatron's robot mode ankles are not transformed correctly making him look a bit more lanky. We also have an image of the back of Skullgrin's box showing us his double cannon tank alt mode. It is very G1 accurate and you can compare that to the G1 comic design below. We also have pics of the alt modes for Alpha Trion and Orion Pax which will be available to preorder on Hasbro Pulse soon. The other alt modes and weapons have not been shown and we will know more in about a month's time, according to Hasbro. Let us know which of these you will be adding to your collection.

Sabrblade wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:Better pics of the accessory-less bot modes (from TFW):

There's something about Megatron's face that looks... off.

Like, very inaccurate to either the original toy or his cartoon face.

It's the nose and teeth. Both are triangular in the new toy, while they were square in both the original toy and the show. Also, he has protruding cheeks in this new toy, while his cheeks were flat in the original toy and the show. Fortunately, it seems to be the toy's only real miss. It's a big one because it's the facesculpt, but oh well, everything else looks great.

Noticed a cat hair over his left thigh in his picture, guessing that's not included!

Also, the complicated transformation is nothing new, I never had the original one, but I've seen reviews and that thing's transformation is crazy!