SDCC 2016: Titans Return Voyager Class Alpha Trion #HasbroSDCC

Awesome pics WJ! That is bad***

joeprime276 wrote:Awesome pics WJ! That is bad***

Hell yeah! And these are actually Seibertron's pics (the site owner's), I just do the posting

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I mean, I think the point is that he was never a headmaster before and it's not replicating something they remember. Of course they're gonna make some fiction to show him becoming a headmaster; that's part of marketing.

Not saying I agree, I'm fine with and actually like Blurr being a headmaster; but I don't think this is a valid argument.

People asked if there would be fiction supporting this. Hasbro said not necessarily and people didnt like that because it made even less sense to change the toys (even though its the other dam way aound). But now there is from Takara. So you get the best of both worlds. You get fiction which supports the new toy and at the same time they dont have to change anything in MTMTE.

That's what really ticks me off anymore. This is not directed at you Will but you bring up a point that just grinds my gears. People demand an explanation for everything and get pissy when a toy doesn't have fiction, or has a new feather they they haven't had before. "Why is blur a headmaster? Why is Galvatron? Sky Lynx never combined before I need to know why they're doing this"

What happened to people having an imagination?

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I mean, I think the point is that he was never a headmaster before and it's not replicating something they remember. Of course they're gonna make some fiction to show him becoming a headmaster; that's part of marketing.

Not saying I agree, I'm fine with and actually like Blurr being a headmaster; but I don't think this is a valid argument.

People asked if there would be fiction supporting this. Hasbro said not necessarily and people didnt like that because it made even less sense to change the toys (even though its the other dam way aound). But now there is from Takara. So you get the best of both worlds. You get fiction which supports the new toy and at the same time they dont have to change anything in MTMTE.

That's what really ticks me off anymore. This is not directed at you Will but you bring up a point that just grinds my gears. People deman an explanation for everything and get pissy when a toy doesn't have fiction. "Why is blur a headmaster? Why is Galvatron? Sky Lynx never combined before I need to know why they're doing this"

What happened to p pole having an imagination?

I was kinda thinking the same thing. I love the comics and the old cartoon. Great stories, great fiction. But with my toys, I totally make up reasons for a toy to be the way it is. I don't know why all the "It's not in the fiction, so I can't like and/or accept it!!!" thoughts.

Make up your own story. Stop worrying. It's a toy with a head. You'll feel better.

Randomhero wrote:That's what really ticks me off anymore. This is not directed at you Will but you bring up a point that just grinds my gears. People deman an explanation for everything and get pissy when a toy doesn't have fiction. "Why is blur a headmaster? Why is Galvatron? Sky Lynx never combined before I need to know why they're doing this"

What happened to p pole having an imagination?

If it's not EXACTLY like how it was when I was a kid, no matter how badly drawn what I had as a kid was, then this new stuff SUCKZ!!!!

I was on the fence about Alpha Trion, but those pics look really good.

I think it's more the idea that they're getting a new, re-invented version of the character first rather than a representation of what they had as a kid - which, considering Generations literally being a redone G1 line at this point, is what would be the main draw.

Again though, personally I like Blurr and the like being headmasters as it adds play value, and I like Sky Reign because Sky Reign is awesome. My only problem comes when the new gimmick takes away in some fashion, like with the now-infamous Galvatron Headmaster Crown.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:That's what really ticks me off anymore. This is not directed at you Will but you bring up a point that just grinds my gears. People deman an explanation for everything and get pissy when a toy doesn't have fiction. "Why is blur a headmaster? Why is Galvatron? Sky Lynx never combined before I need to know why they're doing this"

What happened to p pole having an imagination?

I was kinda thinking the same thing. I love the comics and the old cartoon. Great stories, great fiction. But with my toys, I totally make up reasons for a toy to be the way it is. I don't know why all the "It's not in the fiction, so I can't like and/or accept it!!!" thoughts.

Make up your own story. Stop worrying. It's a toy with a head. You'll feel better.

I agree with both of you, hence why I dont feel this comic changes anything for me in the least. I love my toys and they can be whatever I choose them to be

Imagination is a depleting resource.

Sabrblade wrote:

Randomhero wrote:That's what really ticks me off anymore. This is not directed at you Will but you bring up a point that just grinds my gears. People deman an explanation for everything and get pissy when a toy doesn't have fiction. "Why is blur a headmaster? Why is Galvatron? Sky Lynx never combined before I need to know why they're doing this"

What happened to p pole having an imagination?

If it's not EXACTLY like how it was when I was a kid, no matter how badly drawn what I had as a kid was, then this new stuff SUCKZ!!!!

Exactly. I know you're joking but how many times do we see people actually being serious about that? It's ridiculous the entitlement people feel they deserve on toys that are an option to continue getting.

Cobotron wrote:Imagination is a depleting resource.

Here, let me add some:

Cobotron wrote:Imagination is a depleting resource.

Good thing you and your Blue Bluestreak have plenty of it to share!

Also, I just noticed that A3's side antennae/ears are like the helmets or Sentinel's head guards, not part of the actual titanmaster

Cobotron wrote:Imagination is a depleting resource.

Not me. Don't need an explanation and I don't demand one. I can create my own and enjoy what I get.

i have no attachment to a wolf alpha trion. if it was more g1 looking i might like it better

I was just looking at the original Powermaster Optimus Prime and got a little curious: can anyone show a size comparison of TR PMOP's vehicle mode cab with say, Classics or CW Optimus' vehicle mode? It'd be interesting to see if they're similarly sized...

Bumblebee21 wrote:i have no attachment to a wolf alpha trion. if it was more g1 looking i might like it better

You mean you'd rather he didnt transform?

Considering it is the same size as Magnus, I'd say check out the Emgo review here:



If I'm remembering watching the review correctly, the leader cab is dwarfed by the voyagers

Kurona wrote:I was just looking at the original Powermaster Optimus Prime and got a little curious: can anyone show a size comparison of TR PMOP's vehicle mode cab with say, Classics or CW Optimus' vehicle mode? It'd be interesting to see if they're similarly sized...

This is all I could find for comparisons:


Transformers Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime Gallery

Kurona wrote:I was just looking at the original Powermaster Optimus Prime and got a little curious: can anyone show a size comparison of TR PMOP's vehicle mode cab with say, Classics or CW Optimus' vehicle mode? It'd be interesting to see if they're similarly sized...

It's smaller. Smaller than a deluxe vehicle but little bigger than a legends toy

Or try this (googled, not mine):

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Imagination is a depleting resource.

Good thing you and your Blue Bluestreak have plenty of it to share!

Also, I just noticed that A3's side antennae/ears are like the helmets or Sentinel's head guards, not part of the actual titanmaster

Yeah, I had figured that. I did notice in the pics from Botcon they weren't up as high and looked much more like the horns on Big Convoy(which I thought was really cool). The inbox image from Botcon and the pictures from SDCC show them all the way up and they continue the purple horns that start on the face. Still looks awesome. I can't wait for that guy.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Imagination is a depleting resource.

Good thing you and your Blue Bluestreak have plenty of it to share!

Also, I just noticed that A3's side antennae/ears are like the helmets or Sentinel's head guards, not part of the actual titanmaster

Yeah, I had figured that. I did notice in the pics from Botcon they weren't up as high and looked much more like the horns on Big Convoy(which I thought was really cool). The inbox image from Botcon and the pictures from SDCC show them all the way up and they continue the purple horns that start on the face. Still looks awesome. I can't wait for that guy.

I really hope he is a great figure. He really looks like he can be, and he is the voyager I'm most excited more (though Astrotrain is a close second)

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Imagination is a depleting resource.

Good thing you and your Blue Bluestreak have plenty of it to share!

Also, I just noticed that A3's side antennae/ears are like the helmets or Sentinel's head guards, not part of the actual titanmaster

Yeah, I had figured that. I did notice in the pics from Botcon they weren't up as high and looked much more like the horns on Big Convoy(which I thought was really cool). The inbox image from Botcon and the pictures from SDCC show them all the way up and they continue the purple horns that start on the face. Still looks awesome. I can't wait for that guy.

I really hope he is a great figure. He really looks like he can be, and he is the voyager I'm most excited more (though Astrotrain is a close second)

Yeah. I was on the fence about getting him. I really like what I see from the pictures. Then I saw how much I can get for my Botcon 2007 Alpha Trion. So now that one is on eBay and I'm eagerly awaiting Titans Return Alpha Trion.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Yeah. I was on the fence about getting him. I really like what I see from the pictures. Then I saw how much I can get for my Botcon 2007 Alpha Trion. So now that one is on eBay and I'm eagerly awaiting Titans Return Alpha Trion.

Plus he does look pretty majestic. And despite having a more organic looking beast unicorn/lion thingy mode and a starship mode, they do pull off the differences very well.

william-james88 wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:i have no attachment to a wolf alpha trion. if it was more g1 looking i might like it better

You mean you'd rather he didnt transform?

no but i just want a tiny G1 nod like his head or something, maybe a weapon. I'm sure as soon i see him in hand i'll probably get him.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Or try this (googled, not mine):

He is so smol

Found some interesting stuff on TFW2005:

Chucez wrote:

soundwaverulls wrote:

Chucez wrote:Talked to the Hasbro guys and they said there's a chance for a CW shuttle blast off if the forums make enough noise.

Edit: I'm not sure but is Titans Unite the third installment of prime wars? TR deluxes that can combine? Or is that like Omega Supreme, who is a titan that combines from his many pieces to form a mega dude?

Wait, where is did you get this "Titans Unite" from?

I got that from one of the Hasbro reps at the booth.

Now it's safe to assume that this might have been a word mix-up, but if it isn't, I might have an idea as to what the next line is. Given the tease of Overlord (two vehicles combining into one robot) and the rumor of Iron Apex (who is undoubtedly Godbomber, who combines with PMOP/Ginrai), I have a feeling that the next line may have something to do with Duocons/Energon-style combiners.

He really is. But hey, the trailer is what makes of most of him in robot mode, so that cab kinda just ends up second. Besides, it's importance comes from needed to house the drivers seat!

Kurona wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Or try this (googled, not mine):

He is so smol

It's gotta fit in the chest

Autobot N wrote:Found some interesting stuff on TFW2005:

Chucez wrote:

soundwaverulls wrote:

Chucez wrote:Talked to the Hasbro guys and they said there's a chance for a CW shuttle blast off if the forums make enough noise.

Edit: I'm not sure but is Titans Unite the third installment of prime wars? TR deluxes that can combine? Or is that like Omega Supreme, who is a titan that combines from his many pieces to form a mega dude?

Wait, where is did you get this "Titans Unite" from?

I got that from one of the Hasbro reps at the booth.

Now it's safe to assume that this might have been a word mix-up, but if it isn't, I might have an idea as to what the next line is. Given the tease of Overlord (two vehicles combining into one robot) and the rumor of Iron Apex (who is undoubtedly Godbomber, who combines with PMOP/Ginrai), I have a feeling that the next line may have something to do with Duocons/Energon-style combiners.

Maybe, and I'd dig it, but that'd be a bummer to me if the titan masters only last 4 waves

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Found some interesting stuff on TFW2005:

Chucez wrote:

soundwaverulls wrote:

Chucez wrote:Talked to the Hasbro guys and they said there's a chance for a CW shuttle blast off if the forums make enough noise.

Edit: I'm not sure but is Titans Unite the third installment of prime wars? TR deluxes that can combine? Or is that like Omega Supreme, who is a titan that combines from his many pieces to form a mega dude?

Wait, where is did you get this "Titans Unite" from?

I got that from one of the Hasbro reps at the booth.

Now it's safe to assume that this might have been a word mix-up, but if it isn't, I might have an idea as to what the next line is. Given the tease of Overlord (two vehicles combining into one robot) and the rumor of Iron Apex (who is undoubtedly Godbomber, who combines with PMOP/Ginrai), I have a feeling that the next line may have something to do with Duocons/Energon-style combiners.

Maybe, and I'd dig it, but that'd be a bummer to me if the titan masters only last 4 waves

We'll probably get more. We don't know what overlord it but more than likely he's a headmaaster. Titans return is suppose to go throughout 2017 so I'm sure we'll get more. Computron and Liokaiser were both last minute end of the line choices so
I'm sure there's plenty of stuff coming

Randomhero wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Imagination is a depleting resource.

Not me. Don't need an explanation and I don't demand one. I can create my own and enjoy what I get.

You give me hope, brother.

Speaking of imagination. I can't wait to put some on the new Alpha T.

Is... is the lion's jaws his hands?! And I think that's a lion face sculpted into the cockpit window. This is so ridiculous, I love it!

one of the figures i was least interested in but it's piquing my interest. The lower jaw made up of his hands is cool.

the other alt mod makes me think of broadside...

Who are the 2 Titanmasters?

We'll be waiting on Seibs for images to news, but this is a nice preview of the gallery N

Sawback and Overkill are the TM's names.

OH MY FUCKING GOD TITANS RETURN IS THE BEST

Okay so I'm PRETTY sure Megatron is confirmed Blitzwing at this point, that Bumblebee and Gnaw look AMAZING, jesus christ I love this!

I can dig what I'm seeing. Megatron is purty, Gnaw is cool, Bee looks interesting with those large shoulders, and I like the lion vehicle

Megatron, Bumblebee, and Brainstorm are definite buys, and I might get the two Titan Masters depending on how good the other two look (as it's cheaper to buy the set of four off of BBTS).

I'm hoping that Bee means a number of throttlebots in the near future

WANTWANTWANTWANT

Also, thank fuck, Brainstorm's colour is actually good rather than that blotchy green we saw earlier.

Ooft... boy. This is so good.

By the way, interestingly, despite even Wheelie having Titan Master integration; it seems like Bumblebee and Gnaw are the first (known) figures in the line to not have any interaction with Titan Masters.

Love Sawback's Lion-emblazoned sheild mode, so cool;

Also, anyone notice Liokaiser in the background of the meg's image

Autobot N wrote:Megatron, Bumblebee, and Brainstorm are definite buys, and I might get the two Titan Masters depending on how good the other two look (as it's cheaper to buy the set of four off of BBTS).

I'm a tough sell on the little TMs. What's the second mode for the Lion? Breastplate? Like for Deathsaurus, or Predaking? And that's the third HASBRO repaint of the Clobber or whoever mold, right?

Megatron is okay, Bumblebee is cool (but who needs another bee?), Gnaw will be a great troop builder, so hopefully he is packed as such.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, anyone notice Liokaiser in the background of the meg's image

Yeah, but since this isn't the CW thread, I didn't post any images here. Thankfully, all the components have new heads.

Who is Sawback? The name's from RiD 2015, my first thought was Razorclaw from that lion and it's colours but the head looks nothing like him...

Tigertrack wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Megatron, Bumblebee, and Brainstorm are definite buys, and I might get the two Titan Masters depending on how good the other two look (as it's cheaper to buy the set of four off of BBTS).

I'm a tough sell on the little TMs. What's the second mode for the Lion? Breastplate? Like for Deathsaurus, or Predaking? And that's the third HASBRO repaint of the Clobber or whoever mold, right?

Megatron is okay, Bumblebee is cool (but who needs another bee?), Gnaw will be a great troop builder, so hopefully he is packed as such.

Answering my own question the Lion's second mode looks like a shield.

Gnaw is leftovers from a previous line isn't he? Didn't get released.

Also, seems every Grimlock is fated to eventually become Overkill.
Talking of which, Overkill's head mode seems to just be a blue Crashbash... I guess we're getting straight recolours with no head changes in some cases then. Ah well. Hopefully they do Loudmouth in Nightbeat colours and call him... Night... Siren.

NO FUCKING WAY!!!


http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Lione

Autobot N wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, anyone notice Liokaiser in the background of the meg's image

Yeah, but since this isn't the CW thread, I didn't post any images here. Thankfully, all the components have new heads.

If you go there, you will see I found some and put it there as a sneak peak